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Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 11:04am On Sep 24, 2014 |
1 chronicles16:17-22 17 And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an everlasting covenant, 18 Saying, Unto thee will I give the land of Canaan, the lot of your inheritance; 19 When ye were but few, even a few, and strangers in it. 20 And when they went from nation to nation, and from one kingdom to another people; 21 He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes, 22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm for those who use this verse as a line of defense when accusations are laid against a MAN OF GOD!! Pls I will appreciate answers to the following questions 1. Who was God referring to in this verse 2.Does this verse cover all Christians who are anointed or its strictly for MEN OF GOD 3. If its not exclusive to MEN OF GOD alone, how come its not used when a Christian who isn't a leader is being slandered 4a.As a Christian police officer, If I catch a MAN OF GOD committing a crime, should I arrest him or turn the other way becos of this verse?? 4b. As a Christian police officer, if the use of excessive force is required to restrain a violent MAN OF GOD, should I use such force or let him continue his attack (For Q4a & b, i ask becos the verse says do the prophet no harm) 5a. As a Christian judge, should I recuse myself from a case involving a MAN OF GOD 5b.As a Christian judge, should I free a guilty MAN OF GOD (For Q5a & b, I ask becos proponents of this verse, usually say leave judgement for God who called them) PS:pls don't tell me a MAN OF GOD can't be violent or does no wrong, because we have had case where some did pls don't also tell me that no genuine MAN OF GOD Will do those things, that is not the objective of my questions Kindly provide answers based on the scenarios presented. Thanks |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Nobody: 11:09am On Sep 24, 2014 |
1 corinthians 5 has already given us the right to judge or comdemn wrong act by a fellow christians. whether he is a pastor or not. 5 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that even pagans do not tolerate: A man is sleeping with his father’s wife. 2 And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have gone into mourning and have put out of your fellowship the man who has been doing this? 3 For my part, even though I am not physically present, I am with you in spirit. As one who is present with you in this way, I have already passed judgment in the name of our Lord Jesus on the one who has been doing this. 4 So when you are assembled and I am with you in spirit, and the power of our Lord Jesus is present, 5 hand this man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh,[a][b] so that his spirit may be saved on the day of the Lord. 6 Your boasting is not good. Don’t you know that a little yeast leavens the whole batch of dough? 7 Get rid of the old yeast, so that you may be a new unleavened batch—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. 8 Therefore let us keep the Festival, not with the old bread leavened with malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth. 9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people. 12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 11:43am On Sep 24, 2014 |
Gombs,mbaemeka,joagbaje, Drummaboy, winsomex,shidemidemi Pls I'll like your opinion |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by WinsomeX: 12:51pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
Permit me to provide here a well written article on Touch Not my Anointed by SirJohn. I endorse every word. SirJohn: 4 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by WinsomeX: 1:17pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
Since much of my thoughts on this topic has been presented by SirJohn, I will just make brief answers to these questions. nannymcphee: Like SirJohn said, the passage referred to Jacob, primarily. In general it will refer to all of God's people, Christians, God's Israel today. God still ensures Christians are not physically harmed. nannymcphee: All Christians. All Christians are also men of God. Man of God is used to refer to Christians in the NT in the light of God's demand on us to reach maturity (1Tim 6:11; 2 Tim 3:18). nannymcphee: Because it's being abused. That's why the write up by SirJohn is very instructive. All of God's people are equal. We should be accountable to ourselves. No one is greater than another so much that he cannot be held accountable. No one is beyond criticism. Nevertheless, same way we should not criticize our leaders maliciously, so should we not do the same to each other. We are all brethren accountable to one another. nannymcphee: Be'eni ma. Arrest the chap and ensure he serves his due punishment. MOG is not a political immunity. nannymcphee: Yes ma. Pls do. A scripture in Peter warns Christians not to suffer for evil doing. BC if they do, there is no glory in it. If a Christian is violent or breaks the law, he should be subject to the punishment of the law. nannymcphee: No. Judge him like any other person. If he is guilty, jail him. Case in point: Jim Baker. nannymcphee: No. Period. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 4:40pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
^^^^^ Thanks, still waiting to hear the view of those that use the phrase |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 4:59pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
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Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Image123(m): 6:24pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
David didn't publicly criticize Saul in the purported sense, also he said what he had to say to Saul's face with great regard and reverence for Saul and God. Over to proponents . |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Nobody: 6:28pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
Very instructive, I hope this makes fp, so all those who allow themselves to be misled can be instructed. nannymcphee: 4a.As a Christian police officer, If I catch a MAN OF GOD committing a crime, should I arrest him or turn the other way becos of this verse?? Be'eni ma. Arrest the chap and ensure he serves his due punishment. MOG is not a political immunity. nannymcphee: 4b. As a Christian police officer, if the use of excessive force is required to restrain a violent MAN OF GOD, should I use such force or let him continue his attack (For Q4a & b, i ask becos the verse says do the prophet no harm) Yes ma. Pls do. A scripture in Peter warns Christians not to suffer for evil doing. BC if they do, there is no glory in it. If a Christian is violent or breaks the law, he should be subject to the punishment of the law. nannymcphee: 5a. As a Christian judge, should I recuse myself from a case involving a MAN OF GOD No. Judge him like any other person. If he is guilty, jail him. Case in point: Jim Baker. 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:50pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
1. Who was God referring to in this verse His saints and his prophets (Pastors, Ministers of the gospel) 2.Does this verse cover all Christians who are anointed or its strictly for MEN OF GOD All... we are to judge none, touch none, not by mouth, pen or however. 3. If its not exclusive to MEN OF GOD alone, how come its not used when a Christian who isn't a leader is being slandered Ask them, I use it on all...all who's created of God. 4a.As a Christian police officer, If I catch a MAN OF GOD committing a crime, should I arrest him or turn the other way becos of this verse?? Define the word 'crime' ...because, they said Chris Oyakhilome commited a crime too.... but if you find him breaking traffic rules or give bribes etc...Arrest him, you are doing your job! Make sure you don't do the arresting in the church! 4b. As a Christian police officer, if the use of excessive force is required to restrain a violent MAN OF GOD, should I use such force or let him continue his attack Beni! He should know how to conduct himself and his anger, knowing fully well he's an ambassador for Christ (For Q4a & b, i ask becos the verse says do the prophet no harm) The Hebrew word is ra'a meaning to do an injury or hurt, to do evil or wickedly, mischief . Check your motive here. When you are arresting him, do it with respect or reverence, even if you saw him stole from a store. Do your job and keave the rest for who he answers to. 5a. As a Christian judge, should I recuse myself from a case involving a MAN OF GOD Nope, do your job. If he broke the law, he should face the consequences. 1 Peter 2 : 13 Keep [size=20pt]all[/size] the laws of men because of the Lord; those of the king, who is over all 5b.As a Christian judge, should I free a guilty MAN OF GOD If he broke the law with PROOF... don't, but still respect him either way. (For Q5a & b, I ask becos proponents of this verse, usually say leave judgement for God who called them) Refer to the above verse...if he broke the laws of the land, he should answer. PS:pls don't tell me a MAN OF GOD can't be violent or does no wrong, because we have had case where some did I've seen Pastors who beat their wives, why can't a pastor steal then? There is every possibility. pls don't also tell me that no genuine MAN OF GOD Will do those things, that is not the objective of my questions Those who know the word and live it, work and walk it won't Kindly provide answers based on the scenarios presented. I don't like the topic of this thread... is 'proponents' necessary? Your opening remark too Thanks Welcome! 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by mbaemeka(m): 6:54pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
2 Peter 1:21 KJV For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. None of the prophecies or scriptures came from men. They came from the Holy Spirit who moved them to speak or write it down. Will the Holy Spirit move a Christian to act contrary to the scriptures? Paul didn't rebuke Peter because he was "just" wrong. He rebuked him because Peter was within Paul's jurisdiction which was Galatia- a region Paul had established a church. The same Paul when he met with James and the other elders in Jerusalem didn't rebuke them even though they admonished Gentiles to imbibe some Jewish customs as part of their salvation "duties". He simply obeyed them there and kept mum but when he wrote to his churches he taught otherwise. There is a due process in God's house for the Holy Spirit is not the author of confusion or a proponent of dissension and rank-breaking. But if any MOG fails in the law of the land then let him be punished by the law of the land and if he fails in the law of God then let God himself punish him amicably. Going by what Image123 had already said when David had the opportunity to kill Saul he refused to and when one of his soldiers offered to do it David called Saul "the Lord's annointed". Remember that David too was the Lord's anointed (and even more anointed than Saul if I may add) but when he learned about Saul's death he exclaimed "How are the mighty fallen?" before he instructed his men not to tell the story amongst the Heathens (Garth in the context). He didn't call Saul a demon-possessed Charlatan or fraud that God had punished. Instead with tears he queried why such a mighty man had fallen so ignominiously. I am not a proponent of anything except I declare unequivocally that I am. Just thought to add that. |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 7:15pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
mbaemeka: 2 Peter 1:21 KJV Gbam! Ohhhhhhhhh! Mba, as for the colored, may God bless you. His wisdom and excellence is working in your mind immeasurably David had to kill 2 fellas like that in the Bible for slaying the Lord’s anointed, and was advised to slay another for simply cursing the Lord’s annointed, yet folks here insult and attack all including the president of the country! Forgetting the Bible frowns at that too Notice the difference in our posts, 4mins...we were thinking same things... Hahahahahah, true sons of our father! He sure made Bereans outta us 2 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by LambanoPeace: 8:18pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
WinsomeX, rather than answer the OP, you went an the usual essays, finally attempting the OP... when would you understand that long gists in a forum like this is not sellable? |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 9:18pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
Gombs: Q1.Kindly explain what Paul was addressing in 1 Corinthians 5:12-13 12 What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? 13 God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” Q2.where do you get this notion of by pen or by mouth? All the verses preceding the "touch not my....." talks about assault or physical harm Define the word 'crime' ...because, they said Chris Oyakhilome commited a crime too.... but if you find him breaking traffic rules or give bribes etc...Arrest him, you are doing your job! Make sure you don't do the arresting in the church! pls don't bring in names so that the thread won't be derailed. Why can't I arrest a pastor in church when he has broken the law? A friend of mine worked for a Pastor of a well known church(name withheld) . him & his crew were owed for 6months, no pay The pastor gave instructions to the security guys not to allow them into the office complex, they did the job offsite, they tried all they could to get his attention to no avail So one Sunday, they all decided to go to his church, the pastor didn't notice them, unfortunately for the pastor he was the first to speak during testimony time, my friend took the mic & narrated everything & that the congregation should pls join him in begging the pastor to pay. long story short, the pastor paid them the next day. question: Did my friend do wrong by going to the church to do this? 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 9:58pm On Sep 24, 2014 |
nannymcphee: MSG 9-13 I wrote you in my earlier letter that you shouldn’t make yourselves at home among the sexually promiscuous. I didn’t mean that you should have nothing at all to do with outsiders of that sort. Or with crooks, whether blue- or white-collar. Or with spiritual phonies, for that matter. You’d have to leave the world entirely to do that! But I am saying that you shouldn’t act as if everything is just fine when a friend who claims to be a Christian is promiscuous or crooked, is flip with God or rude to friends, gets drunk or becomes greedy and predatory. You can’t just go along with this, treating it as acceptable behavior. I’m not responsible for what the outsiders do, but don’t we have some responsibility for those within our community of believers? God decides on the outsiders, but we need to decide when our brothers and sisters are out of line and, if necessary, clean house. QED Read in context and from the greek manuscripts. He was actually saying "it's my responsibility to put you guys in the right path" same thing Pastor Chris did when he excommunicated a Pastor, why? Because he's responsible for those in CEC, and yet folks still nailed him on the cross! He is the boss in the church in Asia, he cannot be responsible for that in Jerusalem. Q2.where do you get this notion of by pen or by mouth? All the verses preceding the "touch not my....." talks about assault or physical harm Really? You want me to put up a verse where someone was recommended to David for death just because he cursed the Lord’s annoited....folks curse with what? pls don't bring in names so that the thread won't be derailed. Noted but it will, sooner or later. I promise, not from me
You can, but shouldn't A friend of mine worked for a Pastor of a well known church(name withheld) . him & his crew were owed for 6months, no pay 1 Corinthians 6:1 New Living Translation When one of you has a dispute with another believer, how dare you file a lawsuit and ask a secular court to decide the matter instead of taking it to other believers! The pastor gave instructions to the security guys not to allow them into the office complex, they did the job offsite, they tried all they could to get his attention to no avail Romans 4:4 ISV Now to someone who works, wages are not considered a gift but an obligation. Now, I don't have full details, maybe your friend didn't do as they agreed, but if all conditions are met, and the pastor refuses pay (highly unlikely), then cops gotta get him, that's nafter all means has been exhausted.
That is soooooo wrong and God would not be pleased at such. There are order in God’s house, your friend could have met an elder in the church quietly, he disregarded the church and the office of the Pastor, not the man, but the office. long story short, the pastor paid them the next day. What was his gain now? Proving the pastor is 'wicked' or 'evil'? to what end? Folks sha. Don’t forget, maybe you didn't have the full details, the pastor might ot be aware of the debt, if he were, maybe there was a breach of contract, if there wasn't, you can’t conveniently tell me someone worked for you, and you deliberately withheld pay for no reason at all question: Did my friend do wrong by going to the church to do this? He should go beg God...you need understand something, the church of God DOES not practice democracy, you don't always have freedom of expression and 'rights'... what happened to humility? Patience? Endurance? Love? Etc even if the pastor was wrong, what happened to his Christian morals? Who was he like in the Bible? [/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 12:08am On Sep 25, 2014 |
Gombs: This story is not nollywood or "them say", the job was offshore & the company was owned by the pastor, find out from folks who work offshore, the moment u hit town, ur alert come in, my friend held his part of the bargain
If my friend disregarded the church & office of the pastor, what about the pastor that went against Gods word that talks about paying workers their wages & being truthful & honest?? Didn't the pastor dishonor God, the church & his office? (I hope touch not will not apply here)
The long story I skipped was that, there was a visiting senior pastor from headquarters that Sunday, he told them they should see him after service The pastor claimed that the client had not paid, hence the delay in payments My friend called someone from the clients firm who worked with the account dept, the call was placed on speaker & he confirmed that they weren't owing the pastors firm
I'm shocked at ur responses, u left the pastor & focused on my friend, who is in a better position to walk in the light of the questions u asked above? The pastor or the lay member Let me borrow ur words, what happened to the pastors love? What happened to the pastors Christian moral? Who has the pastor acted like in the bible? Why did the pastor order the guards not to let them into the office complex? why did the pastor lie that he was being owed? At the end of the day, who brought shame to the body of Christ? The pastor or my friend? I'm earnestly waiting for the answers to this questions I hope u won't feed the me the "touch not" My friend did not cause commotion in church, he simply stated the facts, that he had worked without pay & they should join him in begging the pastor to pay up I hope u earn a living, how will be like for u to work 6months without pay, with a wife & kids? I don't know where u live, in Nigeria here, some companies owe staffs salaries for months & still threaten them with sack should they decide not to come to work So why should a Christian business owner practice this? Not to talk of a pastor! so what exactly should my friend beg God for? 3 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:54am On Sep 25, 2014 |
nannymcphee: Then the pastor was wrong for not to have paid up! If my friend disregarded the church & office of the pastor, what about the pastor that went against Gods word that talks about paying workers their wages & being truthful & honest?? Didn't the pastor dishonor God, the church & his office? (I hope touch not will not apply here) Let God judge the man, not you or your friend. Does two wrongs make a right? The long story I skipped was that, there was a visiting senior pastor from headquarters that Sunday, he told them they should see him after service but your friend thought testimony time was far better, no? The pastor claimed that the client had not paid, hence the delay in payments aha, at least now there was an explanation..the first post you had earlier suggested the pastor did not even want to see them. My friend called someone from the clients firm who worked with the account dept, the call was placed on speaker & he confirmed that they weren't owing the pastors firm see na! Someone..was that someone a senior staff? if yes, does he or she work with finance department? why didn't he call the Boss of that firm? My point here is that there is obvious communication glitch... a whole lot I'm shocked at ur responses, u left the pastor & focused on my friend, who is in a better position to walk in the light of the questions u asked above? The pastor or the lay member You see it so, because you wanted me to see it from your friend's perspective, remember, everyone is right in their own eye. you didnt hear the Pastor's side of the story, did you? Let me borrow ur words, what happened to the pastors love? basing your opinion of just what your friend told you is not nice... you should have heard the Pastor's side of the story. why did the pastor lie that he was being owed? you claiming he lied based on what your friend told you, for Pete's sake he may have called a cleaner or security man he knew working there, for it is against company standard t give information to "strangers" especially went money payments are involved. At the end of the day, who brought shame to the body of Christ? The pastor or my friend? your friend... No matter how you see it, taking a microphone in church to complain about a debt and asking the congregants to join him beg their pastor to pay him is not justifiable in any way. I'm earnestly waiting for the answers to this questions I've obliged you ma'am I hope u won't feed the me the "touch not" you've not known me a lot then! My friend did not cause commotion in church, he simply stated the facts, that he had worked without pay & they should join him in begging the pastor to pay up and that was right thinking to you? I hope u earn a living, how will be like for u to work 6months without pay, with a wife & kids? i'd be frustrated especially if i know the monies were held for no cogent reasons..but should that make me go to the church and announce that their pastor refuse paying me? of all sensible ways of getting the debt paid? aren't their elders in that church he could first complain to? aren't there christian bodies in that state hew could write to? did he pray about it? He should have gone to the press na! He did the job with the Pastor's company, NOT the church! I don't know where u live, in Nigeria here, some companies owe staffs salaries for months & still threaten them with sack should they decide not to come to work Did he threaten to sack your friend? this is a new detail o So why should a Christian business owner practice this? Not to talk of a pastor! most atimes, wickedness and greed ... sometimes, lack of the said funds so what exactly should my friend beg God for? for disregarding the presence of God in the gathering of brethren. If the governor was sitting there in the congregation, would he have gone to the front with a microphone to announce the said debt? He can't... He'd not dare. 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Goshen360(m): 7:33am On Sep 25, 2014 |
Touch not my anointed is a false teaching to the church of Christ. Plain and simple. Some people are using OT to interpret NT just because they want to justify fables. I will not accept disrespect but when a man of God goes wrong, he should know better and should be called out!!! Plain and simple!!! A man of God doing wrong doesn't have immunity not to be criticized for doing wrong!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 7:49am On Sep 25, 2014 |
1peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously the verse above is talking about Jesus Luke23:33-34 33 And when they were come to the place, which is called Calvary, there they crucified him, and the malefactors, one on the right hand, and the other on the left. 34Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots. Acts7:59-60 59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. 60And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep. Luke9:54-56 54 And when his disciples James and John saw this, they said, Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did? 55 But he turned, and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of. 56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.And they went to another village. The verses above shows the New Testament practice, where then do we get the present day practice of calling fire & brimestone on those that criticize ministers ? those that use the story of Miriam or the prophet who command wild beast to devour those kids or even Ananias & sapphira seems to forget that we are in a dispensation of grace & mercy. If peter had informed sapphira about her husbands demise, before he spoke, she would have told the truth & her life would have been spared. Christians today do worse than what Ananias did & nothing happens to them. maybe I'm getting it wrong, but seeing the pattern Jesus laid & with verses I listed above, I ask again why do Christians lay curses on folks who criticizes ministers or even insult them? 2 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nora544: 7:55am On Sep 25, 2014 |
Twisting the Word of God 2 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 8:29am On Sep 25, 2014 |
Gombs: I'm amazed at your response! My friend tried all avenue to get across to the pastor but could not, they were bared from entering the office complex, that's why he chose that extreme step
There is no glitch, the company is a small company owned by the pastor
What's his own story, he is the owner of the company, the client has paid him & he had refused to pay his workers
My friend called his friend who is an accountant in the clients firm, who confirmed the pastors company had been paid
He didn't complain, it was testimony time & simply stated the facts, no commotion was caused, it was at that point, the visiting senior pastor told them(my friend & his crew) to see him after service
Excuse me, why did the pastor Barr them from entering the office complex. A pastor that could lie to a senior pastor? What then can the elder do who is under the pastor? Excuse me, i have worked for 6momths & you refuse to pay me, you want me to write to Christian bodies & pray? Wow
He didn't, I only used that to buttress what's happening in other circles
Yes he would have!! Gods presence was not disregarded, it was the pastor that disregarded the house of God. 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Image123(m): 1:31pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
LambanoPeace: WinsomeX, rather than answer the OP, you went an the usual essays, finally attempting the OP... when would you understand that long gists in a forum like this is not sellable? Yet i think i recall his alter ego drumb, telling Gombs that he had outgrown that style of writing, whatever that means. |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by WinsomeX: 2:28pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
LambanoPeace: WinsomeX, rather than answer the OP, you went an the usual essays, finally attempting the OP... Apparently you have some challenge with comprehending English. You may either re read my posts again to understand me better or revisit secondary school. Either of them will help your challenge. LambanoPeace: WinsomeX... when would you understand that long gists in a forum like this is not sellable? Because I am not like you and your friends who peddle the word of God for profit. 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 4:20pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
[quote author=nannymcphee] I'm amazed at your response! My friend tried all avenue to get across to the pastor but could not, they were bared from entering the office complex, that's why he chose that extreme step Was the above justifiable in your honest opinion? There is no glitch, the company is a small company owned by the pastor Exactly, he did no business with the church, but the pastor, why the show in the church? If he wanted to sue, who would your friend has sued? The church or the company? What's his own story, he is the owner of the company, the client has paid him & he had refused to pay his workers You see? You did not even care about his point of view, you are the judge and jury in your friend's case, convicting the defence cousel who you didn’t hear his side of the story. You passed judgement based on the story of the persecution cousel. Wonderful! My friend called his friend who is an accountant in the clients firm, who confirmed the pastors company had been paid You already had contradictory claims, new details makes it awry. He didn't complain, it was testimony time & simply stated the facts, no commotion was caused, it was at that point, the visiting senior pastor told them(my friend & his crew) to see him after service He didn't complain? What did he do? Preach? Exhort? Inspire? But anyways, you didn't say, if GEJ was sitting in that church that day, would your friend have dared? Excuse me, why did the pastor Barr them from entering the office complex. Ma'am, your judgement is clouded, your standpoint is what your friend told you, nothing else. Okay, were you there when the barr instructions were given? Or you went there with him and both of you were barred? A pastor that could lie to a senior pastor? Your opinion What then can the elder do who is under the pastor? Speak to te pastor on the claims of another fellow, if the pastor denies it or declines an explanation, it is on book your friend sought help from the church to persuade the pastor, and the pastor declined. Excuse me, i have worked for 6momths & you refuse to pay me, you want me to write to Christian bodies & pray? Wow So? Well, Next time, tell your friend to take the SWAT team along. He didn't, I only used that to buttress what's happening in other circles Yeah, right! Yes he would have!! Gods presence was not disregarded, it was the pastor that disregarded the house of God. You've not been in same room or hall with dignitaries obviously! God’s presence was not disregarded shey? Ok o 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 4:22pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
Image123: There's a word for such fellas.... someone mremind me please! |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 5:02pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
nannymcphee: 1peter 2:23 Still waiting for answers to this |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 8:10pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
nannymcphee: I didn't bother ma'am... in all those, Jesus was reported not firing back or threatening or such. How many times have you seen T. B. Joshua, Oyedepo, Oyakhilome, Hinn, Copeland, etc... how many times have they threatened their accusers or rained brimstones on them? Furnish me with examples if you have any. I'm anticipating someone asking 'so Jesus and Those you mentioned are now same' or 'so, they are your Jesus now?' 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 11:17pm On Sep 25, 2014 |
Gombs: I told you before, no mentioning of names!! Are you telling me present day Christians don't lay curses on those who speak ill of christain ministers? 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Gombs(m): 6:11am On Sep 26, 2014 |
nannymcphee: Sorry Ma'am
That's their level of knowledge, mature sons don't. Meanwhile if you insult minsters of the gospel for whatever reason, you walk in a curse, not that God cursed you, you walk out of blessings with/by your words and/or actions. |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by nannymcphee(f): 7:49am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Gombs: You just did the same thing now, just that yours is subtle. The verses I mentioned to u, did u see where curses where mentioned!! 1 Like |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Candour(m): 8:56am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Gombs: This means you're very immature because see you purporting to 'curse' somebody on another thread Gombs: Point for me in the OP where he said she is no longer a woman of God...if not, and if u can't, I curse you! https://www.nairaland.com/1892171/pastor-chris-oyakhilome-addresses-whole/22#26156679 And you persisted in the immaturity even after numerous corrections from well meaning individuals. This is without prejudice to the fact that your curse or any so called mog's curse on any christian is a futile exercise of the vocal cavity and empty rambling from the pit of self delusion. If you're an Eze nmuo or your mog is, let us know for that is another discussion. 3 Likes |
Re: Proponents Of "Touch Not My Anointed" by Tgirl4real(f): 9:18am On Sep 26, 2014 |
Candour: 1 Like |
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