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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Soso990240(m): 6:18pm On Oct 04, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Nacho at the age of seventeen was invited by Coach Keshi to the Super Eagles CHAN team. The team was built around him as the creative midfielder.

His Man City agent came and pulled Nacho out of the team to push his transfer, which destroyed over a months work by Coach Keshi. That would have led Nacho to play a the World Cup at seventeen.

Nacho has to work his way back into the team after that, instead of getting an automatic recall.
what ar u saying? He should have placed CHAN ahead of his future(Man.city)? Mr,Keshi gave d young Man permission to go and seal his Man.city deal.Would u hav stayed back in d CHAN camp if u were him Wen ur 1st Club contract is calling?
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:23pm On Oct 04, 2014
Soso990240:
what ar u saying? He should have placed CHAN ahead of his future(Man.city)? Mr,Keshi gave d young Man permission to go and seal his Man.city deal.Would u hav stayed back in d CHAN camp if u were him Wen ur 1st Club contract is calling?
He should have delayed the signing for one month and finished his tournament.

He would have headed to the World Cup from there and Nacho would have been able to secure a work permit as a special talent. I understand the fact that it was a great opportunity of the young lad but his departure affected the team that was built around him.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:26pm On Oct 04, 2014
Emeca:


did u watch mba in d confederations cup?? Mba is somewhat technically gifted and would have performed more dan any other midfielder Keshi had on d bench. U are over-rating Matuidi btw.
Matuidi was a beast in the match against Nigeria. He was like a High Speed Bulldozer. Remember he injured Ambrose and then injured Onazi twice. The second one took Onazi out.

Mba would have been too light to fight Matuidi. This is not about just technique. That is why Mikel opposed Azeez coming into the game.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:29pm On Oct 04, 2014
abatically:


That is a silly comparison right there. 1994 was out golden era and we haven't produced real talents since the class of 1994. In fact the only world class player we had post 94 was KANU nwankwo and since then we never had a world class player.

But since u want names, I can tell u that Chidi nwanu never played in the 1994 nations cup but was an integra part of 1994 world cup.
I did not know that. Pure genius.

Coach Clemens Westerhof was always ready to take radical actions to move the team forward.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:34pm On Oct 04, 2014
mpowa:


If i hear! With the pedigree of Nigeria, that's like the easiest group we can get. what should Ghana or ivory coast say? If the players at our disposal are well utilized and coach's tactics was on point, we ought to have won Iran and Bosnia convincingly and go slog it out with Argentina, everything we did, we did with labour, even the only win we had was controversial, Dzeko's fine goal was disallowed while ours was a clear foul.
Which player in our team is of the calibre of Dzeko (Man City), Ibisevic (Stuttgart) or Pjanic (Roma).

With the likes of Okocha, Tijani, Kanu, Finidi, Oliseh, Amokachi, Ikpeba, Uche Okechukwu, Taribo, Babayaro, Yekini etc, and being coached by a top coach (Bora Milutinovic) Denmark flogged us 4-1. Yet, you want Coach Keshi to perform magic.

He needs time to build.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 6:37pm On Oct 04, 2014
vislabraye:


Some of you here just claim to be wise. Who were our key players then ? Yes Chidi Nwanu was included but he was not an inexperienced player. He was already mature. Can you call that rebuilding? He was a fantastic player no doubt about it but did Westerhoff change the whole setting ? Yekini was still our points man, Amokachi, Okocha, Finidi were amongst our best attackers. That's why the team became so good because the played 2geda for a long time.

My point is, where are the players that won the NC ? Now do you use green horns to execute a match you need to win at all cost ? Even if we have to build a team, this is not the right time.
The point is that Coach Westerhof kept an open camp. No shirt was permanent and anyone could be dropped.

The Nation's cup team was a work in progress. Many of them are still there. But, their position should not be permanent.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Soso990240(m): 8:16pm On Oct 04, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
He should have delayed the signing for one month and finished his tournament.

He would have headed to the World Cup from there and Nacho would have been able to secure a work permit as a special talent. I understand the fact that it was a great opportunity of the young lad but his departure affected the team that was built around him.
And who told u Iheanacho was in a position to delay his first Club Contract? Would u have sacrificed ur first Club Contract for CHAN if u were Iheanacho?

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 8:52pm On Oct 04, 2014
Goke7:


are u still listening to ikpeba? I stopped listening to football coaches in dstv studios long time ago. I almost passed out the day people started saying that oliseh should coach eagles because of his tv analysis.

lol. grin

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 8:59pm On Oct 04, 2014
kristisking:
Yes Keshi has lost it.He is too sentimental and does not listen to anyone.I think winning the last nations cup was what got into his head,forgeting that it was luck that won us the trophy.I'm very optimistic his days in the super eagles are numbered.

Shut up your dirty mouth. How did ''luck'' win us the trophy? Dumb idiattt.

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 9:19pm On Oct 04, 2014
dabossman:


So, just because Keshi invited 4 new players in a team list of 25, that is why the sky wants to fall? That is the reason for all this hyper-ventilating? 4 players out of 25. When only 18 or 22 will be dressed for the game and only 14 can get to play?

You guys are funny. Those four may not even see action in both games. The coach probably wants to see what they have to offer in training, so he can assess them in person. And that is why you are all loosing your heads? You have about 21 known faces and it is 4 potential debutants that you are all crying about.

I remember back in 1993, Oliseh's first game was a Nations Cup qualifier against Ethiopia. He was a revelation in that game and went on to become an integral part of the Eagles for 11 years. If I'm not mistaking, Okocha's first Eagles game was a World Cup qualifier against Ivory Coast. What happens if one of them turns out to be a revelation?

Good points.

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by mecussey(m): 9:37pm On Oct 04, 2014
Anybody can say anything, allow the man do what he has to do. After all, Morinho do play fake left full back and still succeed.

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 10:11pm On Oct 04, 2014
Soso990240:
And who told u Iheanacho was in a position to delay his first Club Contract? Would u have sacrificed ur first Club Contract for CHAN if u were Iheanacho?
It was a pure contract. Coach Keshi even offered to let him go for some days and sign a post dated contract that kicks off after CHAN.

Nacho's agent and his dad wanted the deal completed because it was a golden opportunity. However, it had a negative effect on the Home Based Super Eagles.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by andyanders: 11:45pm On Oct 04, 2014
Keshi is already a waste and should be confined to the dustbin as far as I am concerned. He has an ego issue and that is what is killing him.If he cannot manage his players then, he has noting to do with the team. A manager who cannot control himself by going to the press to talk about any player he is having issues with is a complete fool.

Nowhere you cannot get a stubborn child but you do not need to kill him but to try to show love and manage his behavior.

Keshi has gotten it wrong and I would want those supporting him here to show me proof of the so called good strikers he has? He equally does not want young strikers like Iheancho and most of the young players like the young man in his team. Useless man indeed.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Nobody: 12:39am On Oct 05, 2014
says the guy who can't even pronounce chelsea undecided

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Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by thegoodjoehunt3(m): 7:17am On Oct 05, 2014
andyanders:
Keshi is already a waste and should be confined to the dustbin as far as I am concerned. He has an ego issue and that is what is killing him.If he cannot manage his players then, he has noting to do with the team. A manager who cannot control himself by going to the press to talk about any player he is having issues with is a complete fool.

Nowhere you cannot get a stubborn child but you do not need to kill him but to try to show love and manage his behavior.

Keshi has gotten it wrong and I would want those supporting him here to show me proof of the so called good strikers he has? He equally does not want young strikers like Iheancho and most of the young players like the young man in his team. Useless man indeed.
Last weekend, Luis Van Gaal went to the press and criticised Wayne Rooney for his careless lash out with his foot on a West Ham player. Do you think Van Gaal is a fool?
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by collinsVP: 8:57pm On Oct 06, 2014
It appears most of us have lost sense of good football.
Ikpeba is right in his observation. I hate when people
refer to last nations cup we won. it was a sheer luck. At
least am sure it was not a result of Keshi's tactical prowess.
He is full of inconsistency. And his arrogance makes things
worse He has an unrealistic sense of his competence.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by collinsVP: 9:15pm On Oct 06, 2014
Shut up your dirty mouth.
$ How did ''luck'' win us the trophy? Dumb idiattt

Bros it was share luck.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by collinsVP: 9:16pm On Oct 06, 2014
Shut up your dirty mouth.
$ How did ''luck'' win us the trophy? Dumb idiattt

Bros it was sheer luck.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by miembamish(m): 12:26am On Oct 07, 2014
Everything that has a beginning must have an end... Keshi's reign is coming to an end.... His now got no tactical enforcement... De is no time to still be building wen it comes to qualifiers. U can do dat during friendly matches and not competitive matches. We got good players but he wants players dat will worship him dats why he still goes for new players. We don't have time ryt nw to build. He should work with wat he has and stop this building for nw. He can do dat wen we might have qualified for de tournament. How on earth will u be playing Aluko inde mid-field rather than play him inde wings so he'll use his pace against defenders.
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by miembamish(m): 12:30am On Oct 07, 2014
thegoodjoehunt3:
Last weekend, Luis Van Gaal went to the press and criticised Wayne Rooney for his careless lash out with his foot on a West Ham player. Do you think Van Gaal is a fool?
Van-Gaal can equally make mistakes. He's not flawless. Hw on earth would Van-gaal go to de press and openly say dat Welbeck isn't a clinical striker ? It means he got no respect for his players. Keshi had beta start being humble, koz wen he falls, he won't rise again...
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by Goke7: 9:38am On Oct 07, 2014
miembamish:

Van-Gaal can equally make mistakes. He's not flawless. Hw on earth would Van-gaal go to de press and openly say dat Welbeck isn't a clinical striker ? It means he got no respect for his players. Keshi had beta start being humble, koz wen he falls, he won't rise again...
and what did welbeck played against chelsea, are u sure that van gaal was not right? any player who plays rubbish and still expects a coach to pat him at the back is a fool
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by dabossman(m): 4:38pm On Oct 08, 2014
miembamish:

Van-Gaal can equally make mistakes. He's not flawless. Hw on earth would Van-gaal go to de press and openly say dat Welbeck isn't a clinical striker ? It means he got no respect for his players. Keshi had beta start being humble, koz wen he falls, he won't rise again...

And you know this because you are...., GOD?
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by miembamish(m): 6:47pm On Oct 08, 2014
dabossman:


And you know this because you are...., GOD?
And u forget dat pride comes b4 a fall. Even God says He'll humble de proud and raise de lowly...
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by miembamish(m): 6:51pm On Oct 08, 2014
Goke7:

and what did welbeck played against chelsea, are u sure that van gaal was not right? any player who plays rubbish and still expects a coach to pat him at the back is a fool
Are u sure u knw how to draw conclusions ? How would u use one instance to draw a conclusion. Isn't it dat same Welbeck dat scored Hat-trick against de Turkish giant Galatasaray Even Messi and CR7 do play rubbish at times...
Re: Keshi Has Lost It - Victor Ikpeba by 4C2215131: 8:11pm On Oct 08, 2014
Emeca:

'Building' a team involves getting d right mix of players to give u want u want, den 'tweaking' it from tym to tym. The 'building' is not supposed to take forever. Dats what Ikpeba is talking abt. Some of d players he took to d world-cup are nowhere to be found in his recent list. He simply replaced dem with a bunch of UNTESTED average players. It makes d team dysfunctional.

What Barca and Bayern are doin is 'tweaking' their team. They have gone past building. They drop and add one or two players....but their system of play remains d same. Even the players they added are quality players that made a difference at their former clubs. You cant say d same for players Keshi invited.

Same for Germany. The core of d team that took them to d semi-finals in 2010 still remains. D coach only replaced those that retired and those who lost form with BETTER players......compare d line up against Spain at d 2010 semi-final and d 2014 finals team; there are only two players he dropped on account of form, d other two retired. He picked Sami Khedira for this year's event (notwithstanding d fact he only played 2 matches in d last 4 months for Madrid prior to d competition and was an injury risk) because he was already a TRIED and TESTED player. Keshi dropped Sunday Mba - a player who was crucial to Nigeria's success in d last AFCON - because he 'wasnt motivated enough' . We all saw hw d midfield collapsed against France when Onazi was taken off....Keshi had no reliable person to bring on to fill dat gap. All d tym he spent testing was for notin when it mattered most. He even wasted d opportunity afforded him by d Confederations Cup to build on d team.

What Keshi has been doin is what Man U is doin now....building a team.....are u not seeing d mixed results Man U are getting. Man U will soon get past dis stage once they get their acts right but I cant say d same for Keshi with d way and manner he goes abt his coaching.

Spoken in true enlightenment.

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