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Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by hydeka: 12:02pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
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Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by SeverusSnape(m): 12:16pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Nice piece, I just wish more people get to read this, Knowledge is power. This reminded me of the Salt and water saga, I was ashamed that day; even educated people participated actively in it claiming it had supernatural prevention and healing power. 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by otswag(m): 12:16pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Religion has tipped people into making bad choices that has cost many lives. We see men of God preaching that seeking medical intervention when one is ill means one has no faith in God. Unfortunately, people listen and then are rushed into the hospital when it becomes an emergency and start expecting drs to perform miracles. We see patients leaving the hosptl for a prayer house like it is not possible for them to get healed while on admission except d pastor lays his hands on them. We fail to realize that the church is a body of people under Christ, not building structures where people worship. Apart from religion,superstitious nature of Nigerians is causing more harm than good and unfortunately, Nigerians take the opinions of relatives and friends alot more seriously than what the Dr says. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by condralbede(m): 12:18pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Nice one jare..... The outcome is usually not good. You don't have to insist on walking on foot when a car is available to take you to your destination.You nailed it here man,seek for medical help while you pray to God for healing. |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by OkikiOluwa1(m): 12:19pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
eleojo23:Highly welcomed my brother... Na so I hear say one top Jehovah Witness Pastor killed his daughter cos he refused blood transfusion on her... |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Stonerobaba(m): 12:22pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
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Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by boss1310(m): 12:23pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
anybody who refused medical treatment cos of faith now have another doctor to consult and those kind of doctors can only be seen in psychiatric hospitals 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Crispels(m): 12:25pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
SuperMartins: Hope you have been discharged now? 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Nobody: 12:25pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
The topic of this thread looks more or less like an Igbo adage. Check it: People who reject medical health to pursue divine healing ... "Will die like chickens on Christmas Day" People should realize that God is everything but he is not our driver that we can just say Oya take me to Alausa Oya take me to Ikoyi. God doesn't decide most things for us, he has given us brains so that we can also think and solve our immediate problems. He gave some apostles, some healers and I as well believe that he gave some accountants, some doctors, some optometrist some sociologist. So if you have medical condition, please go to the doctor and if you have eye sight issues or glaucoma, please don't go to opticians okay? You will learn. If your child is becoming wayward go to a sociologist who deals with anti social behaviour. Worst thing is that most of the men of God are even fake who will not only get your money but will leave you doubting Gods existence and that is if you did not even die. I believe God is awesome and powerful and I believe involving him is key to living a healthy life but I also believe that doctors are powerful and authority figures in health challenges. 4 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Vivipop(f): 12:26pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Some religious bodies are guilty of this. They feed gullible folks that treating one's illness with drugs and the likes is a sin,while they send their wards to the most respectable hospitals to be treated. I don't want to call names but I'm a first hand witness of such. To me, it is a great offence not to take care of oneself medically,and God does not approve. 3 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by timmy2409(m): 12:28pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
It's always so sad when people chose to believe in myths over tried and tested human knowledge. Multiple experiments over the past century have shown repeatedly that prayers have absolutely no effect on the outcomes of diseases in the real world. Look up the Great Prayer Experiment for one example. Or just look to Liberia even. With an 85.5% Christian population, I'm pretty sure they're praying and crying loud for healing from God. So far it seems all he's done is sit back and watch Ebola ravage them and their children, and in the end, the cure is still going to have to come through science. I spit on all the religious figureheads out there that know this and still prey on people's ignorance for their own financial gain. If you have the data, please watch this documentary. It follows the supposed 'healed' persons at Reinhard Bonnke and Benny Hinn crusades, to examine if they truly got healed. Spoiler Alert: NO ONE GETS HEALED THROUGH PRAYERS! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJfaaPdP0kI 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by passionate88: 12:29pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Pastor sef wey get headache dey take panadol |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by InvertedHammer: 12:29pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
/ I think everyone has a right to die. Person wey wan die, leave am. \ 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Opiosko: 12:31pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
xcelsia:Good one Ms. Some folks think that anyone who rejects what they accepts is less knowledgable than they are... 2 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Nobody: 12:31pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
I have also told those who refuse to take their drugs claiming faith to put water on the stove not light it and pray for fire from heaven to cook their soup. About drug resistant strain of Tuberculosis that is also caused mainly by sturborness or patients and lack of drug adherence. A drug treatment course for TB lasts 6-8 months, after the first 4 months most of the symptoms disappear and most times the patient defaults, stops taking drugs and stops going for their clinic days. What this leads to is a more difficult strain of TB which is drug resistant TB which is more difficult and aggressive to treat. In extereme cases it could be Multi Drug resistant TB which can only be treated in Calabar and Ibadan and has side effects like deafness. Solution FINISH YOUR FIRST TREATMENT COURSE. ADHERE TO YOUR THERAPHY. @ Topic, when I hear people ignorantly boasting in church "for the past 10 years I havent been to a hospital " I feel sad because the day they break down hmmm. Headache is just a symtom but instead of checking whats wrong we self medicate and further damage our kidneys. Not getting checked for years to know how your body works is like not going to service your car for 10 years, even if its anew car the engine will knock pretty soon. We agree you are not sick but go and get medical confirmation, know what you need to regulate and what is going well. Only an insane person will choose to be blissfully ignorant about his / her health. Faith without works is dead. Till your faith and prayers cooks a pot of soup on its own I suggest you back up your faith with works 3 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by sunnshyn(f): 12:33pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
SuperMartins: I thank God you are alive Super Martin...stay positive...don't just guess its appendicitis, find out what the exact nature of the illness is, so you can get the right medication. The spirit of God be with you bro!! Cheers!! |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by PROCTOR: 12:39pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
A continent where the default solution to every problem is PRAYER must be a burden on any deity especially if he graciously gave BRAINS 2 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by sconp: 12:44pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Faith is good, but follow it up with drugs and prayer. Some people have terrible sickness and refuse to take drugs stating that the God they serve would deliver them. Forgetting that faith and work works together. Some pastors also contribute to this, asking members to keep using anointed olive oils and water whereas if the pastor gets ill he travels oversea for treatment. It annoying sometimes when you hear that the ailment could be treated but the person died cos s/he refused to take drugs |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by pring: 12:46pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
I blame it on the pastors that wash their brains not knowing they are after their tithes n offerings. if not on Fashola' s warning over Ebola, TB Joshua would have killed alot of people. Heaven help those who help them selfs. Government that has also refused to deliver good medical facilities and go abroad while they are sick also indirectly let people die at the mercy of this pastors. Receive your anointing nonsense. We fail to work hard for success, only to embrace prayers, night vigil, prosperity with out working hard n receiving calls from people u dont kn for uplifting. Nigerians now have family pastors instead of a family doctor. its a big shame. 2 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by PROCTOR: 12:47pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
Blind faith and blind followership of deir religious leader.i wonder if those supposed religious leaders are MAN OF GOD OR god OF men which people make them be .How on earth will your religious leader ask you to eat grass and drink petrol and you obey him we are in the 21st century for crying out loud cos i cant really imagine some things people do in the name of faith if u want a man to get annoyed dont abuse his parent just critisize his pastor and c d reaction if we are that religious then our country shld be better 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by tete7000(m): 12:48pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
I think people need to pray more for wisdom. Often times the problem many of us have is in knowing the way God works. Naaman was told by Elisha to go and wash himself seven times in a river. Elisha could simply have told him to be healed and he would instantly have been healed but he chose to heal him through a different avenue - by his washing in the river. The man almost refused but fortunately he heeded the advice and he was çured. Obedience the scripture says is better than sacrifice. Another scripture says faith without good work is dead. I likened taking drugs to the Naaman washing of self in the river. God often times has provided us with solution to our problems, he was simply waiting for us to obey and do simple things to get healed. Why does anyone needs a seven day vigil when simple cures to malaria and other known diseases are available? Why praying all day long when practice of simple hygiene will lay off many diseases? I have heard a Pastor told his congregation he hasn't have to take malaria drug for over seven years but this man of God lives in opulence, rides airconditioned car, lives in neat and palatial home. His environment is totally devoid of mosquitoes who would ordinarily give him malaria. As far as I m concerned he didn't need to attribute his healthy state to miracle. God like the OP has rightly said created the heaven and the earth, he blessed us with knowledge to understand and provide cures to many known ailments. We need to take advantage of that. If anyone dies while refusing treatment, it will be the person's fault and not God's. In taking drugs however, we should always remember however that we treat but it is God that heals. 3 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by COOLCATS: 12:48pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
A good pastor will not discourage you from visiting the hospital tho . 2 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by timmy2409(m): 12:49pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
sconp: Faith + Works = Results Works - Faith = Results Faith - Works = FAIL 2 Likes |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by DoTheNeedful: 12:49pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
eleojo23: Hypocrisy of Religion. 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Nobody: 12:59pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
SuperMartins:God will perfect ur healing 1 Like |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by dare2think: 1:03pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
If you need to convince people who take faith over medicine, tell them that the pastors and so called men of God take private jets to hospitals in Germany and Israel over the slightest headaches. If they cannot comprehend that analogy, they are as good as dead anyway. Let them be. |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by Darteyyyy(m): 1:10pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
God performs miracle.... not magic |
Re: Appreciating The Place Of Drugs And Medical Procedures In Handling Of Illnesses. by mygem: 1:10pm On Oct 31, 2014 |
The problem is with our so called religious leaders when they are sick they travel out for prime care treatment but tell their blind followers to come for fake healing.I witnessed with my eyes when a pastor told a girl to pay 20k for his olive oil before he prays for her.I am a strong practicing christain the Bible says faith without work is dead .when u are ill visit the doctor then pray to God for the treatment to be a success 1 Like |
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