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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:17pm On Nov 01, 2014
EfemenaXY:


Lol!

Lazybones more like. On mobile at the moment. The thought of logging onto my laptop...spending all that energy... cheesy grin

Maybe later though... cheesy

Get a very light laptop and it follow you everywhere. cheesy
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:20pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

This is not about being great at school work or assertion that men are more intelligent than women.

The key word is 'logical'. Maths is a science that can be learned well enough by just about anybody with an average I.Q.
Logic deals with analysis, validity of inference.

All important and indispensable skills to be good at maths and natural sciences. wink

Both men and women are equally equipped with the right brain to tackle

We agree! cheesy

logical issues, the annoying fact is that one has a lot of obstacles to overcome (which ultimately thins their number) whilst the other almost doesn't have anyote]

Can you rephrase this sentence, please? I am not sure I understand.
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by freecocoa(f): 12:21pm On Nov 01, 2014
Present.

Make I find somewhere siddon first.
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by EfemenaXY: 12:21pm On Nov 01, 2014
carefreewannabe:


Get a very light laptop and it follow you everywhere. cheesy

smiley smiley

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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Shirley07: 12:24pm On Nov 01, 2014
crackhaus:

Hey genius, the text in bold is referred to as an 'emotional response'. Class act!

Them things you listed: being childish, stubborn, aggressive, are exactly what you expressed in the bits I put in bold for you.

As for women being more matured in character and reasoning, lady dream on - millions of Mother-in-law vs. Daughter-in-law conflicts is enough to tell you how much of a delusion that statement is.
Same thing with wives vs. sister-in-laws.

If you're going to reply me, I suggest you do so without your typical diatribe. State your points and counter my argument without any vile, caustic, or derogatory words - if it comes easy to you that is.
Are you scared?
Anyway, I don't have the patience for slow people- the reason I replied him that way. He kept talking down on the article, saying it's illogical yet he couldn't provide any article to butress his point.
That said, your point on MIL and DIL conflict is as a result of what our environment taught us. Most african women tends to get too attached to their kids, probably due to the lack of love they received from their hussy. Hence, they focus all their energy on their kids and subconciously, won't let go. And the young ladies out there have the mentality that every MIL would always be like that and thus, gather amunition to fight their MIL. This isn't the case in a much more civilized world.
But let me ask you? All these FIL and brothers-in-laws that fight out properties with the widows in their family are also women? Or Am I not getting it right? The truth is you're also slow and a waste of time!
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:27pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 01, 2014
carefreewannabe:


What is wrong with a long weekend? cheesy

My sugar-banana, nothing oo sad
Just that I actually prefer a hectic weekend to a long stress-free one. shocked
And na me go dey beg for break when break no dey lipsrsealed

This debate dey sweet very wellu kiss
Una should contine the akshion

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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:32pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

Not necessarily. Ability to develop unique conceptual analysis and ability to apply laid down methods to arrive at the mathematical solutions does not mean both abilities are equal.


Of course!
A woman has to overcome the obstacles her anatomy and biochemistry imposes upon her ability to logically discern correctly at all times notwithstanding the situation while a man has little to worry about in that angle.
smiley

I could argue that the stereotypes that men get aroused more easily and think of s*ex more often make them less prone to making sound decisions.
Testosterone makes them lose their minds. See, Clinton. grin tongue

Can you see how hilarious it is to determine draw a connection between hormones and logic? wink
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Shirley07: 12:34pm On Nov 01, 2014
crackhaus:
Regarding this topic, it's surprising that from the very first page and first article, the answer to this debate has been made very clear - yet for some reason it still eludes you. cheesy
I honestly was expecting someone to have made the distinction by now.

Here goes:
The stereotype that women are more emotional than men is not based on feeling emotions, feeling is a normal human thing regardless of gender.
The stereotype is based on how differently and uniquely we respond to these emotions - It is all about the reaction/response, that's the difference between the genders.

A woman will more than likely respond to strong emotional stimulus without pause for rational thought (thinking it through), while a man is likely to hold back.
The argument that men pretend not to show emotion is redundant - that thing you call pretense is actually a deep-seated logical rationalization which subconsciously kicks in when a man is exposed to emotional stimulus.

It is not about teaching boys not to show emotion and all them bla bla yada yada argument being thrown around here which is actually totally false (no parent tells/teaches their sons not to cry when he wants), it is a biologically natural thing - Hormones and Brain activity/processing.
Hormones?
What do you know about female's hormones?
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:35pm On Nov 01, 2014
alutacontinua:


My sugar-banana, nothing oo sad
Just that I actually prefer a hectic weekend to a long stress-free one. shocked
And na me go dey beg for break when break no dey lipsrsealed

This debate dey sweet very wellu kiss
Una should contine the akshion

smiley smiley smiley smiley smiley
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:40pm On Nov 01, 2014
Please, let us ALL try our best to stay calm and friendly.

There is coffee, tea and some cold drinks. I have made different cakes and I want you people to make yourselves comfortable and enjoy the discussion.



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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:45pm On Nov 01, 2014

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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by crackhaus: 12:56pm On Nov 01, 2014
It’s no secret that boys and girls are different—very different. The differences between genders, however, extend beyond what the eye can see. Research reveals major distinguishers between male and female brains.

Scientists generally study four primary areas of difference in male and female brains: processing, chemistry, structure, and activity. The differences
between male and female brains in these areas show up all over the world, but scientists also have discovered exceptions to every so-called gender rule. You may know some boys who are very sensitive, immensely talkative about feelings, and just generally don’t seem to fit the “boy” way of doing things. As with all gender differences, no one way of doing things is better or worse. The differences listed below are simply generalized differences in typical brain functioning, and it is important to remember that all differences have advantages and disadvantages.

Processing

Male brains utilize nearly seven times more gray matter for activity while female brains utilize nearly ten times more white matter . What does this mean?

Gray matter areas of the brain are localized. They are information- and action-processing centers in specific splotches in a specific area of the brain. This can translate to a kind of tunnel vision when they are doing something. Once they are deeply engaged in a task or game, they may not demonstrate much sensitivity to other people or their surroundings.

White matter is the networking grid that connects the brain’s gray matter and other processing centers with one another. This profound brain-processing difference is probably one reason you may have noticed that girls tend to more quickly transition between tasks than boys do. The gray-white matter difference may explain why, in adulthood, females are great multi-taskers, while men excel in highly task-focused projects.

Chemistry

Male and female brains process the same neurochemicals but to different degrees and through gender-specific body-brain connections. Some dominant neurochemicals are serotonin, which, among other things, helps us sit still; testosterone , our sex and aggression chemical; estrogen , a female growth and reproductive chemical; and oxytocin, a bonding-relationship chemical.

In part, because of differences in processing these
chemicals, males on average tend to be less inclined to sit still for as long as females and tend to be more physically impulsive and aggressive. Additionally, males process less of the bonding chemical oxytocin than females. Overall, a major takeaway of chemistry differences is to realize that our boys at times need different strategies for stress release than our girls.


Structural Differences

A number of structural elements in the human brain differ between males and females. “Structural” refers to actual parts of the brain and the way they are built, including their size and/or mass.

Females often have a larger hippocampus, our human memory center. Females also often have a higher density of neural connections into the hippocampus. As a result, girls and women tend to input or absorb more sensorial and emotive information than males do. By “sensorial” we mean information to and from all five senses. If you note your observations over the next months of boys and girls and women and men, you will find that females tend to sense a lot more of what is going on around them throughout the day, and they retain that sensorial information more than men.

Additionally, before boys or girls are born, their brains developed with different hemispheric divisions of labor. The right and left hemispheres of the male and female brains are not set up exactly the same way. For instance, females tend to have verbal centers on both sides of the brain, while males tend to have verbal centers on only the left hemisphere. This is a significant difference. Girls tend to use more words when discussing or describing incidence, story, person, object, feeling, or place. Males not only have
fewer verbal centers in general but also, often, have less connectivity between their word centers and their memories or feelings. When it comes to discussing feelings and emotions and senses together, girls tend to have an advantage, and they tend to have more interest in talking about these things.


Blood Flow and Brain Activity

While we are on the subject of emotional processing, another difference worth looking closely at is the activity difference between male and female brains. The female brain, in part thanks to far more natural blood flow throughout the brain at any given moment (more white matter processing), and because of a higher degree of blood flow in a concentration part of the brain called the cingulate gyrus, will often ruminate on and revisit emotional memories more than the male brain.

Males, in general, are designed a bit differently. Males tend, after reflecting more briefly on an emotive memory, to analyze it somewhat, then move onto the next task. During this process, they may also choose to change course and do something active and unrelated to feelings rather than analyze their feelings at all. Thus, observers may mistakenly believe that boys avoid feelings in comparison to girls or move to problem-solving too quickly.

These four, natural design differences listed above are just a sample of how males and females think differently. Scientists have discovered approximately 100 gender differences in the brain, and the importance of these differences cannot be overstated. Understanding gender differences from a neurological perspective not only opens the door to greater appreciation of the different genders, it also calls into question how we parent , educate, and support our children from a young age.

Gregory L. Jantz , PhD is the founder of The
Center • A Place of HOPE and an internationally
recognized best selling author of over 26 books
related to mental wellness and holistic recovery
treatment. He is also co-hosting the first-
ever Helping Boys Thrive Summit on May 24th
to discuss how brain science influences raising
and educating boys.
This article features excerpts from Dr. Jantz's book Raising Boys by Design .

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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 12:59pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:06pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

I could still post one or two links though.

http://www.webmd.com/balance/features/how-male-female-brains-differ


[s]Please tell me first EXACTLY how your source proves that females are more emotional than males and how males are more logical than females.[/s]

It was not your source. Ignore this post.
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:16pm On Nov 01, 2014
crackhaus:
It’s no secret that boys and girls are different—very different. The differences between genders, however, extend beyond what the eye can see. Research reveals major distinguishers between male and female brains.

Scientists generally study four primary areas of difference in male and female brains: processing, chemistry, structure, and activity. The differences
between male and female brains in these areas show up all over the world, but scientists also have discovered exceptions to every so-called gender rule. You may know some boys who are very sensitive, immensely talkative about feelings, and just generally don’t seem to fit the “boy” way of doing things. As with all gender differences, no one way of doing things is better or worse. The differences listed below are simply generalized differences in typical brain functioning, and it is important to remember that all differences have advantages and disadvantages.

Processing

Male brains utilize nearly seven times more gray matter for activity while female brains utilize nearly ten times more white matter . What does this mean?

Gray matter areas of the brain are localized. They are information- and action-processing centers in specific splotches in a specific area of the brain. This can translate to a kind of tunnel vision when they are doing something. Once they are deeply engaged in a task or game, they may not demonstrate much sensitivity to other people or their surroundings.

White matter is the networking grid that connects the brain’s gray matter and other processing centers with one another. This profound brain-processing difference is probably one reason you may have noticed that girls tend to more quickly transition between tasks than boys do. The gray-white matter difference may explain why, in adulthood, females are great multi-taskers, while men excel in highly task-focused projects.

Chemistry

Male and female brains process the same neurochemicals but to different degrees and through gender-specific body-brain connections. Some dominant neurochemicals are serotonin, which, among other things, helps us sit still; testosterone , our sex and aggression chemical; estrogen , a female growth and reproductive chemical; and oxytocin, a bonding-relationship chemical.

In part, [/b]because of differences in processing these
chemicals, males on average tend to be less inclined to sit still for as long as females and tend to be more physically impulsive and aggressive. Additionally, males process less of the bonding chemical oxytocin than females. Overall, a major takeaway of chemistry differences is to realize that our boys at times need different strategies for stress release than our girls.[/b]

Structural Differences

A number of structural elements in the human brain differ between males and females. “Structural” refers to actual parts of the brain and the way they are built, including their size and/or mass.

Females often have a larger hippocampus, our human memory center. Females also often have a higher density of neural connections into the hippocampus. As a result, girls and women tend to input or absorb more sensorial and emotive information than males do. By “sensorial” we mean information to and from all five senses. If you note your observations over the next months of boys and girls and women and men, you will find that females tend to sense a lot more of what is going on around them throughout the day, and they retain that sensorial information more than men.

Additionally, before boys or girls are born, their brains developed with different hemispheric divisions of labor. The right and left hemispheres of the male and female brains are not set up exactly the same way. For instance, females tend to have verbal centers on both sides of the brain, while males tend to have verbal centers on only the left hemisphere. This is a significant difference. Girls tend to use more words when discussing or describing incidence, story, person, object, feeling, or place. Males not only have
fewer verbal centers in general but also, often, have less connectivity between their word centers and their memories or feelings. When it comes to discussing feelings and emotions and senses together, girls tend to have an advantage, and they tend to have more interest in talking about these things.


Blood Flow and Brain Activity

While we are on the subject of emotional processing, another difference worth looking closely at is the activity difference between male and female brains. The female brain, in part thanks to far more natural blood flow throughout the brain at any given moment (more white matter processing), and because of a higher degree of blood flow in a concentration part of the brain called the cingulate gyrus, will often ruminate on and revisit emotional memories more than the male brain.

Males, in general, are designed a bit differently. Males tend, after reflecting more briefly on an emotive memory, to analyze it somewhat, then move onto the next task. During this process, they may also choose to change course and do something active and unrelated to feelings rather than analyze their feelings at all. Thus, observers may mistakenly believe that boys avoid feelings in comparison to girls or move to problem-solving too quickly.

These four, natural design differences listed above are just a sample of how males and females think differently. Scientists have discovered approximately 100 gender differences in the brain, and the importance of these differences cannot be overstated. Understanding gender differences from a neurological perspective not only opens the door to greater appreciation of the different genders, it also calls into question how we parent , educate, and support our children from a young age.


Please explain how EXACTLY this source proves that females are more emotional than males and how males are more logical than females.

And please also provide your readers with a source.
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:18pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:19pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

That source was not aimed at proving that women are more emotional or not but generally highlight those little differences that creates the divide between the two genders.
It also gives a bit of information about hormones and the general development of the brain of either sexes.

Which divide?
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

[s]That source was not aimed at proving that women are more emotional or not but generally highlight those little differences that creates the divide between the two genders.
It also gives a bit of information about hormones and the general development of the brain of either sexes.[/s]

I was a bit taken aback by that response grin

LOL smiley
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:21pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:22pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

Approach to problem solving.

What about it?
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:25pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:25pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:29pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:

Did you read the link?

I did. Next time select and quote selected paragraphs from a source so that I know what argument / finding / observation you are referring to exactly.

I know this article but I want you to show me where exactly it says that women are more emotional and less logical.

Please quote this paragraph.
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:32pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:33pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:


That article isn't aiming at emotions at all. It was aimed at the brain differences and the strengths of both sexes.

What are the strengths of the s*exes according to this article?
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Matthewbriggs(m): 1:34pm On Nov 01, 2014
crackhaus:
Regarding this topic, it's surprising that from the very first page and first article, the answer to this debate has been made very clear - yet for some reason it still eludes you. cheesy
I honestly was expecting someone to have made the distinction by now.

Here goes:
The stereotype that women are more emotional than men is not based on feeling emotions, feeling is a normal human thing regardless of gender.
The stereotype is based on how differently and uniquely we respond to these emotions - It is all about the reaction/response, that's the difference between the genders.

A woman will more than likely respond to strong emotional stimulus without pause for rational thought (thinking it through), while a man is likely to hold back.
The argument that men pretend not to show emotion is redundant - that thing you call pretense is actually a deep-seated logical rationalization which subconsciously kicks in when a man is exposed to emotional stimulus.

It is not about teaching boys not to show emotion and all them bla bla yada yada argument being thrown around here which is actually totally false (no parent tells/teaches their sons not to cry when he wants), it is a biologically natural thing - Hormones and Brain activity/processing.

This is it...

Thread close ... cheesy

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Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:35pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:38pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:


That article isn't aiming at emotions at all. It was aimed at the brain differences and the strengths of both sexes.
I'm using a pretty uncomfortable device here. Show some form of sympathy please. tongue

Why do you need sympathy? You are doing well, aren't you? I think, you are. smiley wink smiley
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:42pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:44pm On Nov 01, 2014
Re: Gender Stereotypes Part I by Nobody: 1:46pm On Nov 01, 2014
Nonso23:


Let me summarize :
1) females have both sides of their brains adapted to language processing better than males.
2) areas of the brain dedicated to logic develop earlier in boys than girls.
3) men are better at spatial assessment than women.
4) women are better at identifying emotions than men and have a dedicated portion of the brain for handling emotional control larger than that in men.

Are we talking about the same source?

http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/estrogen-and-womens-emotions

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