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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by gists: 9:48pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
aguiyi: F00l and it is the APC that was formed less than 2 years ago that expunged church from the bible- right? The more you play this religion card the more disadvantaged you put gej 2 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ikweremilitant: 9:50pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Ikengawo:na d same peple na. 4 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ikweremilitant: 9:59pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Omexonomy:you are corect mate.d bunch of never do wells opinion are not important. 4 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by omenka(m): 10:06pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
aguiyi:As much as I hardly respond to all these "want to islamise Nigeria" crap, PLEASE, IN THE NAME OF WHATEVER GOD YOU WORSHIP, SHOW ME THE PART OF THE CONSTITUTION THAT MENTIONED THE BOLDED. 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by omenka(m): 10:07pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
aguiyi:And while I await your response to the above post, I wanna make a passionate appeal: whenever you want to talk about religion in the politics board especially as regards people wanting to islamise the country, keep me out of it. It disgusts me. When jonathan jumps from one church to another, from one country to another, kneeling and genuflecting before some so called men of God, no one raises any eye brow. No one says he wants to christianise Nigeria. When Jonathan attended a meeting of OIC, no one said anything. When he renewed our membership of OIC, again, no one said anything!! Why then are you people making all these noise I find this kind of politicking very irritating, and would really be grateful if you and your kind kept my name out of it. Thank you. 4 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 10:15pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
cramjones: 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 10:25pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
omenka: you truly do not know much about what you are defending http://www.nigeria-law.org/ConstitutionOfTheFederalRepublicOfNigeria.htm#ShariaCourtOfAppealOfFCTAbuja 8 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by MeAboki(m): 10:30pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
omenka: Let them also add the following to the list: Bishop Kukah https://www.nairaland.com/1242228/bishop-kukah-calls-amnesty-boko Rev Jesse Jackson https://www.nairaland.com/1295717/jesse-jackson-backs-amnesty-boko-haram Also the NEW York Times Judging by the logic (of several silly posters) maybe Rev Kukah and Jesse Jackson are also members of APC and/or sponsors of Boko Haram. Quite on the contrary, the benefit of hindsight is actually exonerating the proponents of amnesty; because as we are all witnessing now, brute force has done nothing to quell the uprising; rather Boko Haram seems to be getting stronger, conquering increasing Nigerian territories; while our soldiers are succumbing to cowardice. Common sense would tell you that brute force had never worked against urban guerrilla tactics as being employed by Boko Haram as opposed to all out conventional war where the war front(s) are clearly defined and the enemy visible and distinguishable. Instead, Boko Haram make lightening strikes, quickly withdraws and blends into the indigenous population; therefore making finding and fighting them very difficult for our soldiers. The longer this war of attrition goes on the more it impacts negatively on morale, as we are witnessing now with many reports of our military turning yellow and running away - in the process abandoning precious weaponry into enemy hands. The best approach is to weaken the ranks of the enemy by giving those among them willing to give up their arms and struggle a way out, through the offer of amnesty. Government can subsequently then concentrate its resources to fight the remaining die-hard ones, who by now must have been reduced in number and therefore with much better odds of defeating them. Note: Amnesty does not equate to an automatic support for Boko Haram but it is an alternative solution to brute force - which has so far not proven effective; so please do not allow hate to cloud your reasoning - think before you type. 7 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 10:39pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
omenka: when ignorance meets arrogance, this is the kind of lines you will hear 8 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by NewNigeriaMind: 10:44pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
pdp is the problem with Nigeria. It is like listening to better advise is foreign to these morons. @op please is it not the same amnesty Jonathan is begging them with now. if Jonathan has listened when the initial advise of amnesty was pushed forward shekau and the die hard fundamentalist would have lost more men than they could gain because the foot soldiers would see that as a way out. but now it is too late. they are bold now and well funded by pdp. nothing jonathan can do about it. offer of amnesty by jonathan is too late now. it appears what Buhari saw while seating is what Jonathan has to climb an iroko tree to see. 1 Like |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by omenka(m): 10:46pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
aguiyi:Thanks. And was this section not included under Obasanjo after granting the desires of the people of Zamfara in 2001/2002?? Was Obasanjo on a mission to "Islamise" the country I don't know what you mean by "what you are defending", but in case you need some heads up, I'm totally averse to religious politicking and scaremongering as practised by jonathan and his minions. It is too volatile a brand I wouldn't like to see it thrive in this country. Why didn't any of these discussions arise under the regimes that preceded Jonathan's Aren't we supposed to be discussing issues relating to economics and security given that they are the core issues that effect everyone right to the foetus in our mothers' and sisters' wombs?? Why the fixation on religion?? Keep me out of such discussions. Thanks. 3 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by omenka(m): 10:46pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
aguiyi:K. Thanks. |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by eunisam: 10:51pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
All those demanding amnesty for boko haram are conceivably part and parcel of boko haram. 6 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by brownlord: 10:51pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
Omexonomy: Even your list is not complete, i can't find banicansta and djfathy 8 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by gists: 11:29pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
MeAboki: My brother, much as there is a lot of sense in your post, I still have a little reservation. For how long are we going to be pardoning criminals in this country? I am a Yoruba man, are you saying if tomorrow some deranged OPC members starts killing people in Ogun, Oyo and other SW states, then FG should also grant them amnesty? We should be very careful about the kind of precedence we set. Why is Ndume being tried in secrete? Why did Sherif run back to PDP if not for protection from investigation. Gov. Amaechi said BH is shooting because someone is paying (for the firearms and logistics), why has there not been any high profile arrest. Why has there not been any arrest in CBN as Davis indicted a top CBN staff (even if it is Sanusi)? It is not rocket science, war is EXPENSIVE. So, just cutting the source of funds to a terrorist group, and in most cases such groups die a natural death over time. Why has there not been a high profile arrest - even if it means witch-hunting the opposition as long as gej security chieves are sure such persons are behind BH? Except you are telling me, there is no APC member funding BH. So the only reason I can think of why some people are asking for amnesty is just because they know we have an inept government that cannot discharge its most basic function - security. Maybe there theory is: if you don't ask for amnesty, this carnage may probably continue and its the innocent ones that suffers. Imagine the situation of the parents of the Chibok girls. Another question I have been asking and its good to know Cramejones has asked a similar question in his list of top 20 questions: 12. Why has the Federal government failed to win the war against an ill-trained army of not more than 10,000, despite having an army, airforce and navy numbering over 100,000 with fighter jets and high grade military hardware? Even when we have a south easterner as the COAS. I am a Muslim, but there is no where in our religion where you are asked to marry girls off without their parents consent. There is no religion on this planet that I know of that asks you to kill innocent secondary school boys in there dormitories while sleeping. This is why some of us will not ask for amnesty, but we ask for justice. Justice on those providing the funds - without which BH will be history. And also some form of economic empowerment. I am not talking about the type of celebrity status that the Niger Delta militants have been elevated to, but a general economic empowerment for the readily available recruits into BH foot soldiers. If a man knows he can make a decent living without comitting suicide by joining a war he is bound to lose, he certainly will think twice before enlisting to join BH. 8 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Descartes: 11:46pm On Nov 03, 2014 |
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Descartes: 12:08am On Nov 04, 2014 |
aguiyi:U dey mind am dem know too much Thanks for the link jare 5 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by dunkem21(m): 12:26am On Nov 04, 2014 |
gists: I want to point out a few lies about your questions as well as cramjones. 1. BH is not ill-trained. If they were, they wont be experts in handling APC's and other machineries at their disposal. 2. BH is far above 10,000 men. How many BH men do you think have been killed by our military men, JTF and the Cameroonian army? 5 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by gists: 12:48am On Nov 04, 2014 |
dunkem21: I am willing to indulge you and assume my assesment of BH strength was wrong just for the sake of this debate. But are you telling me BH foot soldiers are more than Nigerian army? Are you saying they have more training and experience than NA? Is BH supposed capacity to handle APCs and other military hardwares enough justification of the failure of FG to crush this terrorist inspite of the fact that we far more military personnel and air fire-power (not BH does not have jets)? The reason why innocent people keep jetting crewed is because people like you keep make silly excuses for this government that fails to protect its citizen. Just because of silly religious/ethnic sentiments. If we fail to talk and demand for gov to act now because we have a false sense of security as the crises seems to be concentrated in the north, it is only a matter of time before it spreads to other parts of the country (God forbid). This was how people in Niger Delta and South East felt unconcerned when Militants were kidnapping expatriates for ransom. Little did we know the white experts will soon leave and kidnapping profession still stay with us. There was a time when ordinary people (Nigerians) get kidnapped in Aba. Yes, it got that bad that kidnapping graduated from expatriates to the rich and then later to just anybody - Ordinary people kidnapped not because they are rich but because they were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. I have heard of people being kidnapped only to be released after payment of mere N50k. If/when terrorist group find there way down south (in whatever name they choose), I hope this your silly excuse will suffice why the gov should be exonerated for not acting. 3 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by dunkem21(m): 5:46am On Nov 04, 2014 |
gists: Thanks for at least accepting the lies being peddled by cramjones and you. Nigeria is at war with BH and their numbers is far greater than the NA. The reason why BH succeeds is because we have people like you just like their sponsors that are apologetic to their cause and will quickly pass the buck to the Govt forgetting that a lot of Generals from a particular region promised to heat up the polity and make the country ungovernable. If the govt goes hard on BH, they complain of genocide knowing that these people hide amongst citizens to perpetrate their devilish acts or would you really want a whole region levelled? The terrorist group will never find their way down south because they cannot thrive and the terrains are not familiar with them. The people will easily point them out because of divergent views, beliefs and culture. Yes, kidnapping went from expatriates to the rich and to anybody but it was just an upgrade of armed robbery. Before, it was armed people bursting your door to ask for money but noticed that bulk of the money are kept in the bank and kidnapping was birthed. Goodluck is fighting these vices head on and I think we should offer advice to help him not changing another govt that wont still know how to quash the terrorists unless they were the ones that sponsored them in the first place to make the govt look incompetent. Last bullet: Do you know that if GEJ opponents win, BH will stop immediately even without negotiations. 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Ikengawo: 6:06am On Nov 04, 2014 |
There are people that have more hatred for gej thsn they have sympathy for innocents. This is why till this day many are elevating boko haram in order to shame jonathan 8 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 8:27am On Nov 04, 2014 |
omenka: you dont want me to start on this issue this morning. Obasanjo is a yoruba man, a slave to the gambari's from time immemorial. you should ask yourself why boko haram suddenly needed a caliphate why bombing suddenly increased since goodluck bought a form for re-run why those calling for Armnesty are the same ones not seeing anything good in the administration 5 Likes |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by justi4jesu(f): 8:32am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Nobody: 8:32am On Nov 04, 2014 |
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by VIPERVENOM(m): 8:33am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Aaaaaand it makes FP. 1 Like
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by datguru: 8:36am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Hmmmm 5 Likes
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by cheezkid(m): 8:37am On Nov 04, 2014 |
okay o |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by thiefnubu(m): 8:38am On Nov 04, 2014 |
And the reason for this list is..... 1 Like
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Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by Firefire(m): 8:38am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Ikengawo: All are indeed Progressive members or with links to the opposition party. God where is your face ? 4 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by lonelydora: 8:41am On Nov 04, 2014 |
Watching in 3D |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by redcliff: 8:41am On Nov 04, 2014 |
In every sense of the word this is pdp crap and propaganda. If the requested it why is boko haram all over aljazeera saying they dont want it? I wont buy this news... |
Re: List Of People That Have Demanded Boko Haram Amnesty by ToyozzieTohBad(f): 8:42am On Nov 04, 2014 |
ok |
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