tiswell:
Since we don't hv proof dt angels having sexual urge,is it suffice to say dt angels now has sexual urges like humans...babe, God isn't philosophy,neither is he logic,he is beyond our knowledge about him.

And God said Let US(God and his angels) make man in our own image and likeness. If man is like God, then maybe the angels have same likeness n image of a man

Ukutsgp:
those group of angels are rebels just like the devil and his cohort. They rebel against God by leaving their domain to earth to have canal knowledge with humans.

Bro,i dont agree wit dat,hw did they rebelled against God,that incidence happened years after Satan had been defeated,so those angels can only tell what came over them and made them fell for beautiful ladies having their baths in the stream,..hw did they got distracted by the ladies,was it their fate or coincidence?...dat particular incidence is not just clear @all.

Katier00:
And God said Let US(God and his angels) make man in our own image and likeness. If man is like God, then maybe the angels have same likeness n image of a man

Katier00:
And God said Let US(God and his angels) make man in our own image and likeness. If man is like God, then maybe the angels have same likeness n image of a man

Katier00:
And God said Let US(God and his angels) make man in our own image and likeness. If man is like God, then maybe the angels have same likeness n image of a man

'Lets make man in our image' may not necessarily mean carbon-copy of God n hosts of angels...angels hv mouths,yet dey do not eat nor feel thirsty,so tis very possible dat dey have j*sticks and doesn't hv e*ection/urge...i feel God masterminded d fall of those *sons of men*

They are the forgiven sons of God.those whose sins are pardoned.they are not angels but forgiven sons of God.they are human.

Ukutsgp:
moses wrote it.

JUDE was inspired by God.

so you were told....i told you to go and research.

myths? fairy tales? no this are not myths or fairy tales, these are from the books, the bible and the quran. didn't the bible say that GOD will teach one the meaning of the books? GOD did teach him, and it is from that person that i tapped from. This are the breaking down of the meaning of the books.

Ukutsgp:
@Debeloved87 and gatiano.
Where do u people got those story from? Is it from the bible or from ur numerous mytes? Pls let's stick to the bible only.

My beloved brother, you are exceedingly right, wouldn't it be nice for all on the planet earth to live happily as one human family? ofcourse it is a very nice thing. there are very good in all of the color of races, if only their minds were as beautiful as their physical appearances, there will be peace across the planet. If you pay just the slightest attention to the current activties, then it is very possible that you identify the troublemakers, the liars, the mischief makers, the murderers. It is very important that the black people of the world should be able to identify everybody on the planet, as the whole races of the world knows the blackman too well and how to easily conquer him by causing confusion amongst the black people.
If we were one human family, GOD won't want to destroy the wicked or seperate the sheep from the goat. the goats are stubborn, and from current activities you know who the goats are. e.g the goats signs of the secret societies. and finally, brother. race or tribe is nothing, color is everything of the devil, and the devil's world is just going out.

onitshaigbo:


Mr Gatiano, please stop being so fixated with race, a false concept already disproved by science last century. There is only one race: the human race. If you travel overland from Nigeria to Sweden through the Middle East, you'll see a continuum of skin colours, facial features, and hair textures. Separate human races simply do not exist. This is 2014. Say no to racism. Say no to the pseudo-scientific concept of race.

God created one race of human beings, and Jews (Igbos are a subset of Jews) are His chosen people.

gatiano:
myths? fairy tales? no this are not myths or fairy tales, these are from the books, the bible and the quran. didn't the bible say that GOD will teach one the meaning of the books? GOD did teach him, and it is from that person that i tapped from. This are the breaking down of the meaning of the books.

so why dnt u quote the scripture to support your analysis? I can't reconcile what u wrote up there with the scripture.

johnydon22:


so you were told....i told you to go and research.

u are the one doubting it. So u do the research and let's see. Let see who is propagating that lie.

Angels can come to earth in human form. The scripture shows this clearly.

tiswell:
Bro,i dont agree wit dat,hw did they rebelled against God,that incidence happened years after Satan had been defeated,so those angels can only tell what came over them and made them fell for beautiful ladies having their baths in the stream,..hw did they got distracted by the ladies,was it their fate or coincidence?...dat particular incidence is not just clear @all.

do u know if another group of angels rebel again? The bible say they left their domain without being sent.

alphadux1:
The ancient greek myths seem to corroborate this, Hercules, Achilles, etc, are the giant offsprings from the relationships, half god half man, with supernatural abilities. The myths must have been made out of the bible story. Anyway they were all wiped out during the flood.

but after the flood, another giant still surfaced. How come? Where did those giant after the flood came from?

tiswell:
They were d last of *fallen angels* dey were canal minded,filled wit lust for beautiful daughters of men...wondering how dey were able to develop a canal urge while in heaven though.

Ah ah, fallen angels are now God's own sons?

Jehovah God in the bible had a physical confrontation with Jacob at Peniel. Ali-Frazier stuff. Jacob must have been as strong as Arnold Schwarzenegger in the 80s.

gatiano:
My beloved brother, you are exceedingly right, wouldn't it be nice for all on the planet earth to live happily as one human family? ofcourse it is a very nice thing. there are very good in all of the color of races, if only their minds were as beautiful as their physical appearances, there will be peace across the planet. If you pay just the slightest attention to the current activties, then it is very possible that you identify the troublemakers, the liars, the mischief makers, the murderers. It is very important that the black people of the world should be able to identify everybody on the planet, as the whole races of the world knows the blackman too well and how to easily conquer him by causing confusion amongst the black people.
If we were one human family, GOD won't want to destroy the wicked or seperate the sheep from the goat. the goats are stubborn, and from current activities you know who the goats are. e.g the goats signs of the secret societies. and finally, brother. race or tribe is nothing, color is everything of the devil, and the devil's world is just going out.

There is no such conspiracy from the whites against the blacks. I have interacted with oyibos many times, and they are no more dishonest, selfish, and arrogant than the average black.

i have also with them all across europe, without a doubt there are very good and nice ones and bad ones, so it is in all other races. but keep in mind that when GOD destroyed sodom and gomorrah, there were babies in there that knew nothing. why am i saying this? it is because of the white people foreign policies towards the third world countries. their love for extreme consumption and materialism is bringing out the wickedness in them, and also a resistance from the people that can't take it anymore. however be the case my brother, justice must be served. judgement for the crucification of Jesus has not be passed yet, think about all the attrocities after that.

onitshaigbo:


There is no such conspiracy from the whites against the blacks. I have interacted with oyibos many times, and they are no more dishonest, selfish, and arrogant than the average black.

The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan delivered part three of his monumental lecture series, answering for all time the question, “Who Are the Real Children of Israel?” He spoke eloquently to those gathered at Mosque Maryam about The Messenger's teaching on Yakub:

“When they make mockery of what God has revealed to the Honorable Elijah Muhammad, they say that Yakub was an evil scientist. Wrong! Yakub was a scientist who saw in the genetic makeup of the Black man that he could bring out of us a new people, the opposite of the original. That is not evil. That is high science.”

Since the June release of The Secret Relationship Between Blacks and Jews, Vol. 2, Ashkenazi (or White European) Jews have scrambled to create a diversion away from the unanswerable 512-page indictment by ridiculing the history of Yakub. The latest open attack was orchestrated by the ADL's Abraham Foxman, with the milquetoast acquiescence of radio host Michael Eric Dyson. Foxman brought along with him the disaffected negro Judeophile Stanley Crouch to defend him against The Minister's crushing indictments revealed in The Secret Relationship. Foxman had Crouch to question The Messenger's teaching about the origin of the White man, but all that Crouch could muster was the following: “You can't call Farrakhan a truth teller—a guy who has a, has a religion, purportedly, based upon the idea that the White man was invented 6,000 years ago by a mad Black scientist.” That sentence is the substance of his entire challenge to the Yakub story. So, let us look into Crouch's concerns.

The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches that the White man first appeared 6,000 years ago on the Island of Patmos (or Pelan), in the Aegean Sea, where they had been “made” by a 600-year process of selective breeding called “grafting.” Under the auspices of a brilliant Black scientist named Yakub, and by divine authority of Allah Himself, the Blacks who came with Yakub to the island were placed under a system of laws by which mating was based on skin color and in which only lighter-complexioned babies were allowed to survive. Over the course of many generations, the population of Patmos began to grow lighter and lighter until, after 600 years of this dedicated grafting process, the people became very pale with blue eyes and blonde hair. From this island-based tribe of white-skinned albinos came an aggressive race of rulers who then spread into every corner of the world—namely, the Caucasians, who now represent 9 percent of the world population (that's 1 in every 11 human beings).

But The Messenger is not the only source to address the origin of the White race. There are many echoes of this account chronicled by other histories, religions, and folklores, including Judaism. The ancient rabbis use the biblical account of Jacob's grafted flocks of sheep and goat to bear witness to the teachings of Mr. Muhammad. Genesis 30:35 says that Jacob (English translation of the name Yakub) was able to produce unusually colored livestock through the use of a skillful breeding technique. Significantly, it took Jacob six years to successfully change the color of the flock (Genesis 31:41). The book of Jewish traditions called the Midrash Rabbah actually uses this Bible story to explain the birth of White children to Black parents. The rabbis present this parable:

The king of the Arabs put this question to Rabbi Akiba: “I am Black and my wife is Black, yet she gave birth to a White son. Shall I kill her for having played the harlot while lying with me?” Said the other, “Are the figures in your house painted Black or White?” “White,” he said. The other assured him, “When you had intercourse with her, she fixed her eyes upon the White figures and bore a child like them.”

These Caucasian rabbis, who ALWAYS present themselves in their writings as superior to both the “Arab” and the Blacks, use this apocryphal passage to explain their own racial origin in terms of a breeding process.

And with the assistance of Lawrence Guthrie's powerful little book, The Making of The Whiteman, we are led to other more recent testimonials. The Baptist theologian Bernard L. Ramm explained:

By scientific breeding we can shuffle these genes with their characteristics and breed traits in or breed them out. ...The laws of heredity plus principles of separation or selection operating over a period of time will produce the various races of the world.

But religious leaders are not the only ones alluding to a created man. Men of science have also grappled with what they saw as the unusual appearance of this odd human anomaly, the White man. The Dutch anatomist Lodewijk “Louis” Bolk wrote in Origin of Racial Characteristics in Man, “White skin ... started from an ancestor with a black skin, in whose offspring hair and iris color were suppressed more and more.”

The notable English naturalist Charles Darwin concluded that without some form of selective breeding, such skin color differences simply “cannot be accounted for in a satisfactory manner”:

“We have thus far been baffled in all our attempts to account for the differences between the races of man; but there remains one important agency, namely, Sexual Selection, which appears to have acted as powerfully on man as on many other animals.”

The English physician James Cowles Prichard likewise concluded that the physical differences between the races of man could only have resulted from a method comparable to “the process of artificial selection carried on by plant and animal breeders.” It seems, he said “probable that the fairest races of White people of Europe, are descended from … Negroes.”

American biologist Dr. Edwin Grant Conklin wrote in The Evolution of Man:

It is evident that distinct races could not have been established and perpetuated except by the aid of isolation, chiefly geographical.

The ancient Egyptians worried about an immigrant-tribe of blue-eyed people among them that seemed to have a proclivity for trouble-making. They had red or blonde hair and blue eyes and lived at the edge of the desert. The Egyptians called them Tamahu—the created ones—a clear allusion to their unnatural origins. More recently, a Jewish scientist at the University of Copenhagen confirmed that all blue-eyed humans have a single, common ancestor. Dr. Hans Eiberg refers to this condition as a “genetic mutation” and he says it occurred 6-10 thousand years ago. According to Mr. Elijah Muhammad this is EXACTLY when Mr. Yakub's work began on Patmos! Further, Dr. Eiberg and his team found a specific gene, known as the OCA2 gene, which if altered would result in human beings without melanin in their hair, eyes, or skin color—a condition known as albinism. Thus, this OCA2 gene was targeted and manipulated by some force or event around 6,000+ years ago.

In a 2006 New York Times article is yet more proof of a drastic alteration of genetic structure within this 6,000-year time frame. It reported that researchers at the University of Chicago had found “where genes appear to have been reshaped by natural selection …within the last 5,000 to 15,000 years.” Incredibly, Dr. Jonathan Pritchard estimates that the point in time when the genes of the Asian and European populations were altered was 6,600 years ago—the exact date that The Messenger said that Mr. Yakub began his grafting process! The scientists say that “the selected genes, which affect skin color, hair texture and bone structure, may underlie the present-day differences in racial appearance.” How exactly they were “selected,” why, and by whom or by what process the scientist cannot or will not say, but in a human timeline of millions of years this recent genetic alteration is drastic indeed and suggests a purpose-driven effort to create this incredible change.

These are extraordinary testaments to the truth taught by the Most Hon. Elijah Muhammad, and believe it or not, none of the aforementioned witness-bearers have ever been members of the Nation of Islam. These scientific sources have never been impeached or even interrogated by the mischievous voices of mockery that have yet to account for the independent findings of all these White scientists. Despite the recent radio hijinks of Foxman and crew, it is the truths revealed by The Messenger and his most powerful Servant, The Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan, which are vindicated by science, and that still stand alone.

Debeloved87:
if the demonic worship of your ancestors confines you and your generations to gloom, darkness, ignorance and wretchedness why didn't that of the white man do the same... You should use your head and wake up to knowledge and see the light.

Oh, SMP. Ignorance. Sir, you are ignorant. Are you trying to tell us that Christianity is knowledge? Christianity that confined Europe to gloom, darkness, ignorance and wretchedness.

You think Europe is what it is today because of the worship of Jewish ancestors?

true true, my roof is leaking and i'm talking about what another person should do and shouldn't.
well, should i come to your house and tell what you must eat, how you must behave to your wife and how you must train your children? and perhaps one of your nephew or one of your male children just happen to love hollywood and he decides to go down with another male, and i tell you that you must allow him if not, i'll cut power supply and water supply to your house.

the francophone countries still paid colonization taxes to france till 2009 or 2010, maybe till this moment. the french call it "payment for building nothing in those countries. perhaps unknown to nigerians, the nigerian government in secret still pays the british the same (who can ever tell?), judging about what nigeria makes in profit, there is a little or nothing to show for it in the nigerian infrastructures and economy, it is stolen by our corrupt leaders, but what did these leader do with the money? non of them have any property worth what have been stolen. compare our african leaders with the european leaders and billionaires. billions are missing from nigeria every month, the only thing i see is ugly looking, sun burnt, overweight, unhealthy nigerian politicians. how do they spend their ill gotten and stolen money?

onitshaigbo:


What foreign policies towards the third world? The same that allowed China to rise economically and Nigeria to grow leaps and bounds?

What love for consumption and materialism do whites have that we Africans have not surpassed? Look at hip hop music videos versus white artists' music videos!

What general wickedness? You mean the jungle justice and complete disregard for humanity that African leaders have for their countrymen?

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?" (Matthew 7:3)

@gatiano.
u people have forgotten the main subject here. the sons of God.

hifaif:


Oh, SMP. Ignorance. Sir, you are ignorant. Are you trying to tell us that Christianity is knowledge? Christianity that confined Europe to gloom, darkness, ignorance and wretchedness.

You think Europe is what it is today because of the worship of Jewish ancestors?

u are the one that is ignorant. how does Christianity confine europe to gloom? instead of the other way round. just go and sit at one corner.

yes, alright. the sons of God are you and me if you are a blackman or a half-caste and also a half-caste from a black father, the seed determines the the tree and the fruits from it. and half-caste from the black mother is quite different, however that half-caste is still black but must be monitored (GOD forgive me), Genesis 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image and likeness.and it continued as "and we will give them dominion over all things.... man in image and likeness means mankind, a kind of man not man. GOD made the heavens and the earth all alone, he created the firmament, the waters all alone. There was or is no mention of him creating the trinity/son/spirit or angels. suddenly, he had companions to which to make man with. lets think about that.
down to genesis chapter 2, suddenly the person of GOD changed into two people. there is a GOD and another emphasis was made with the LORD GOD. what could have been the difference between these two.

To me a person without both the bible and the quran can not be called complete, be it christians or muslims. it is a must for the blackman to have both books. In the Quran, The pronoun "WE" is used in many occasions as GOD. The angels are just Governors (archangels, just 7 of them), they are not in the realm of creating.

and to somewhere around Genesis 30. it talked about Jacob inter breeding the cattles, the sheep and the goats. he jacob made all the colours of the animals from just one "the black ones". The animals here don't mean animals rather, a people, and it took him 6 years to complete which corresponds with the 6 days of creation.

Ukutsgp:
@gatiano.
u people have forgotten the main subject here. the sons of God.

The problem here is Your silly God is a humanoid
It kills the possibility of truth

macof:
The problem here is Your silly God is a humanoid
It kills the possibility of truth

stop being foolish. if u dnt know something, it is better u keep quiet. this is bible we are discussing here, not science.

gatiano:
yes, alright. the sons of God are you and me if you are a blackman or a half-caste and also a half-caste from a black father, the seed determines the the tree and the fruits from it. and half-caste from the black mother is quite different, however that half-caste is still black but must be monitored (GOD forgive me), Genesis 1:26 Let US make man in OUR image and likeness.and it continued as "and we will give them dominion over all things.... man in image and likeness means mankind, a kind of man not man. GOD made the heavens and the earth all alone, he created the firmament, the waters all alone. There was or is no mention of him creating the trinity/son/spirit or angels. suddenly, he had companions to which to make man with. lets think about that.
down to genesis chapter 2, suddenly the person of GOD changed into two people. there is a GOD and another emphasis was made with the LORD GOD. what could have been the difference between these two.

To me a person without both the bible and the quran can not be called complete, be it christians or muslims. it is a must for the blackman to have both books. In the Quran, The pronoun "WE" is used in many occasions as GOD. The angels are just Governors (archangels, just 7 of them), they are not in the realm of creating.

and to somewhere around Genesis 30. it talked about Jacob inter breeding the cattles, the sheep and the goats. he jacob made all the colours of the animals from just one "the black ones". The animals here don't mean animals rather, a people, and it took him 6 years to complete which corresponds with the 6 days of creation.

all what u said is strange to the scriptures. we only believe the bible not quran. i can understand that u are a muslim. anyway, thanks for ur input.

Katier00:
And God said Let US(God and his angels) make man in our own image and likeness. If man is like God, then maybe the angels have same likeness n image of a man

When G-d said let us make man in our own image and likeness, He was referring to the Son and Holy Spirit, i.e TRINITY. Not the angels.

thank you brother, i didn't add to the bible or substract from it. however i may not have quote word for word. never take the words of the bible just literally, just 0ne verse might mean 3 things. and the bible is not the scripture, the bible is made from the scripture. scripture is a history written by Eloheim or the Exalted Assembly for the future. The blackman writes their history into the future for one complete axial cycle 25000 years. Eloheim control or drive the universe to the destination that GOD orders. they never miss or mix up. so that is the reason why everything in the revelations and in the books (bible and quran) must take place. the bible is just 6000 years history and many words has been added and many substracted from it.

Ukutsgp:
all what u said is strange to the scriptures. we only believe the bible not quran. i can understand that u are a muslim. anyway, thanks for ur input.

Mrval20:

When G-d said let us make man in our own image and likeness, He was referring to the Son and Holy Spirit, i.e TRINITY. Not the angels.

really? God the father, son and spirit are all one and same God. They are three persons in one God. Even if you are right, dnt you think he made angels in his own image and likeness too ?

but there was no mention of where GOD created the spirit and a son, if there was a son, then there must be a woman.

Mrval20:

When G-d said let us make man in our own image and likeness, He was referring to the Son and Holy Spirit, i.e TRINITY. Not the angels.

tiswell:
[size=8pt][/size]'Lets make man in our image' may not necessarily mean carbon-copy of God n hosts of angels...angels hv mouths,yet dey do not eat nor feel thirsty,so tis very possible dat dey have j*sticks and doesn't hv e*ection/urge...i feel God masterminded d fall of those *sons of men*

can you prove that pls