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Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by scantee(m): 2:16pm On Nov 21, 2014
MissMeiya:


When my dad was younger, they used to give the guard dogs soiled baby diapers to lick.

Whose shít are you licking for a living, dog?

I don't trade words with kids, so look elsewhere.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 2:17pm On Nov 21, 2014
scantee:


I don't trade words with kids, so look elsewhere.


24 hours later. Good work. You were talking big and threatening to deal with people for voicing their opinion. What happened? Silly boy.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by scantee(m): 2:20pm On Nov 21, 2014
barcanista:
I don't see how he break the law by insulting his own President or any official of Government. He has the right to criticize, protest and express himself as long as he isn't inciteful and Libellous. Leaders all over the world have been insulted and are being insulted, there is no law that forbade insult. If libel, it is for the government to call him to order and press charges(Which I find unreasonable), but this threat of a thing is so uncalled for. Not everybpdy's opinion can be gagged, there are better ways to win followings for the President.

I am not threatening anybody, the guy in question I know him in person and his entire family. just because he has access to a internet and a face less forum does not warrant him insulting the president.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by scantee(m): 2:23pm On Nov 21, 2014
MissMeiya:


24 hours later. Good work. You were talking big and threatening to deal with people for voicing their opinion. What happened? Silly boy.

Get yourself busy.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 2:25pm On Nov 21, 2014
For those of you supporting GEJ may your life be like that of Nigeria insecured clueless and disorganised .may all all the hullabaloo facing nigeria be unto your family. AMEN
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 2:26pm On Nov 21, 2014
scantee:


Get yourself busy.

*yawn*
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 2:26pm On Nov 21, 2014
scantee:


Get yourself busy.

*yawn* Keep quoting me.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by venivedivici(m): 2:29pm On Nov 21, 2014
shymexx:


That's why I always emphasise collective awakening. Even with the ethnic, religious, and tribal sentiments - the folks still have common grounds which can overshadow those fault-lines, for a short period, for revolution to take place. Poverty is extreme in Nigeria. Then you have got lack of institutions and infrastructures. Especially poverty since a hungry man, is an angry man. And only a collective awakening on what their entitlements are can energise and motivate the folks - to start asking tough questions. However, right now - they've been sedated, and it's more or less like Stockholm Syndrome.

You don't even need all the 150 million heads. 1-2 million well organised folks can do the trick. Also, the views might be divergent - but they can always converge around a common cause, if there's an awakening on what their rights are, as citizens of the country. However, I honestly don't think the overwhelming majority of Nigerians understand what ideologies are - even the so-called educated class. These are folks who're always quick to blame the people, when the people are a product of a dysfunctional system. Then you've got folks who believe excessive privatisation to oligarchs/multi-nationals without giving back to the people, like Yeltsin's Russia, is what capitalism is about. So, basically it's about copy and paste from other places, to form pseudo-ideologies, thus creating a massive pile of mess, without a clear understanding of anything.

Yes, I agree with social media. It's a massive tool that can help if the folks are ready for a change. However, are the people ready - apart from the internet warriors whose bravery only exist in cyberspace? They just need to wait till there's an awakening that can be a catalyst, to make the people want a change.

Lol. No be small Stockholm syndrome o. I mean, these people sodomise us, and we still give 'em MouthAction.

I fully agree with you that a few can catch a fire, and burn. But what happens after the fire has been lit? Let me draw a parallel with perhaps the only true 'revolution' to have happened in Nigeria: the coup of '66. Now, that coup was carried out by officers mainly from the Igbo tribe with a couple of Youruba guys thrown into the mix. Why? Majority of the officer cadre in the army as at then were from these two tribes, but rank and file from even the North took part in the actual killings. Incidentally or what have you, Zik 'happened' to be out of the country, and with a few other 'coincidences', it got misconstrued as an Igbo coup, irrespective of the fact that politicians from the Southern region were killed too. But I would readily ascribe the fact that some Igbo leaders were spared to ethnic sentiment, which overrode the ideologies behind the coup itself. Now that's a history lesson for another day though. . .

What I'm just trying to point out is that should a popular uprising even occur at all, lines would eventually get skewed along the axis of leadership (which tribe would not want to rule?) mainly, not to mention the inevitable hijacking of the situation itself by partisans and misrepresentatives. The painful truth is that a detribalised Nigerian is no Nigerian at all, because from birth, we first pay allegiance to our tribe, before our nation. Tribalism is ingrained in us, so much so that it would be extremely difficult for an interethnic collective group of revolutionaries to sustain the tempo for quite long. Result, balkanization.

As for the social media being a tool, with the virtual wars we fight on a daily basis, it is not yet uhuru.

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Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by scantee(m): 2:30pm On Nov 21, 2014
MissMeiya:


*yawn* Keep quoting me.


My guess is right.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 2:34pm On Nov 21, 2014
scantee:



My guess is right.

Good for you.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Horus(m): 2:39pm On Nov 21, 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkELnzlWpBI

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Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 3:03pm On Nov 21, 2014
venivedivici:

Lol. No be small Stockholm syndrome o. I mean, these people sodomise us, and we still give 'em MouthAction.

I fully agree with you that a few can catch a fire, and burn. But what happens after the fire has been lit? Let me draw a parallel with perhaps the only true 'revolution' to have happened in Nigeria: the coup of '66. Now, that coup was carried out by officers mainly from the Igbo tribe with a couple of Youruba guys thrown into the mix. Why? Majority of the officer cadre in the army as at then were from these two tribes, but rank and file from even the North took part in the actual killings. Incidentally or what have you, Zik 'happened' to be out of the country, and with a few other 'coincidences', it got misconstrued as an Igbo coup, irrespective of the fact that politicians from the Southern region were killed too. But I would readily ascribe the fact that some Igbo leaders were spared to ethnic sentiment, which overrode the ideologies behind the coup itself. Now that's a history lesson for another day though. . .

What I'm just trying to point out is that should a popular uprising even occur at all, lines would eventually get skewed along the axis of leadership (which tribe would not want to rule?) mainly, not to mention the inevitable hijacking of the situation itself by partisans and misrepresentatives. The painful truth is that a detribalised Nigerian is no Nigerian at all, because from birth, we first pay allegiance to our tribe, before our nation. Tribalism is ingrained in us, so much so that it would be extremely difficult for an interethnic collective group of revolutionaries to sustain the tempo for quite long. Result, balkanization.

As for the social media being a tool, with the virtual wars we fight on a daily basis, it is not yet uhuru.

Lol, reminiscent of Dotstar's "Stick up" - All the girls in the club want to hold me for ransom/It's a stick up. I need to do a migraine skank to that lol.

For the fire to keep burning, and to achieve its desired goals, hence the need for it to be well organised/orchestrated - based on collective awakening. With that, there can never be a counter revolution. Real passion across the board will always defeat anything bought/induced by cash/ethnic/religious sentiments.

Also, I think if the 1966 Ifeajuna coup had been a Nzeogwu coup, it would've been successful. However, those who masterminded the coup had ulterior motives - and the end game, before the rest were coalesced into it, was actually what they set out to do. No revisionism can change that. It was about ethnic domination because a particular region was losing out in the power-play - not a revolution.

In a country like Nigeria, the revolution would be about destroying the unitary system - and reversing what Ironsi started. That should be the end game. And with that, and an unattractive center, I don't think any ethnic group would be jostling for a ceremonial leadership with no absolute powers.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by venivedivici(m): 3:13pm On Nov 21, 2014
shymexx:


Lol, reminiscent of Dotstar's "Stick up" - All the girls in the club want to hold me for ransom/It's a stick up. I need to do a migraine skank to that lol.

For the fire to keep burning, and to achieve its desired goals, hence the need for it to be well organised/orchestrated - based on collective awakening. With that, there can never be a counter revolution. Real passion across the board will always defeat anything bought/induced by cash/ethnic/religious sentiments.

Also, I think if the 1966 Ifeajuna coup had been a Nzeogwu coup, it would've been successful. However, those who masterminded the coup had ulterior motives - and the end game, before the rest were coalesced into it, was actually what they set out to do. No revisionism can change that. It was about ethnic domination because a particular region was losing out in the power-play - not a revolution.

In a country like Nigeria, the revolution would be about destroying the unitary system - and reversing what Ironsi started. That should be the end game. And with that, and an unattractive center, I don't think any ethnic group would be jostling for a ceremonial leadership with no absolute powers.

Collective awakening.

I'm tempted to ask who would bell the cat, who would ignite the spark, who would enlighten this disenfranchised mass. . .

But lemme say, Touche.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 3:22pm On Nov 21, 2014
venivedivici:


Collective awakening.

I'm tempted to ask who would bell the cat, who would ignite the spark, who would enlighten this disenfranchised mass. . .

But lemme say, Touche.

Extreme poverty, and the age of enlightenment, with the internet are enough to ignite the spark.

However, it seems the Stockholm Syndrome is too acute for anything to permeate the average Nigerian psyche. Coupled with the need to always live in denial. Thus making folks channel the anger/frustration and quest for knowledge into self-destructive vices.

But you can't keep the people down forever. So who knows what's going to happen to tomorrow? And human beings are unpredictable. We just have to keep watching to see how everything plays out.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by venivedivici(m): 3:32pm On Nov 21, 2014
shymexx:


Extreme poverty, and the age of enlightenment, with the internet are enough to ignite the spark.

However, it seems the Stockholm Syndrome is too acute for anything to permeate the average Nigerian psyche. Coupled with the need to always live in denial. Thus making folks channel the anger/frustration and quest for knowledge into self-destructive vices.

But you can't keep the people down forever. So who knows what's going to happen to tomorrow? And human beings are unpredictable. We just have to keep watching to see how everything plays out.

Spot on, man! I feel you. It's like a third rate sado-masochistic porn flick. We seem to have become inured to whatever it is that is thrown at us, we just harden our faces, steel our hearts, inhale the opium of religion, and exhale fatalism.

I agree with your last paragraph most. Amaechi? Who knows tomorrow?

Above all, the verbal palliative we all overdose on: e go better.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by Nobody: 3:45pm On Nov 21, 2014
venivedivici:


Spot on, man! I feel you. It's like a third rate sado-masochistic porn flick. We seem to have become inured to whatever it is that is thrown at us, we just harden our faces, steel our hearts, inhale the opium of religion, and exhale fatalism.

I agree with your last paragraph most. Amaechi? Who knows tomorrow?

Above all, the verbal palliative we all overdose on: e go better.

Lmao, the greatest Nigerian ever, Fela Kuti talked about everything in his music. From 'suffering and smiling', to 'kolo mentality', to 'army arrangement', to 'original suffer head'. Heck, even "lady" and "yellow fever" are prophetic. grin Great man like Fela Kuti - I need to listen to some Fela tonight when I get home.

One love like Bob Marley said.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by venivedivici(m): 3:53pm On Nov 21, 2014
shymexx:


Lmao, the greatest Nigerian ever, Fela Kuti talked about everything in his music. From 'suffering and smiling', to 'kolo mentality', to 'army arrangement', to 'original suffer head'. Heck, even "lady" and "yellow fever" are prophetic. grin Great man like Fela Kuti - I need to listen to some Fela tonight when I get home.

One love like Bob Marley said.

Peace, bruv. cool
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by prophetfire: 7:31pm On Nov 21, 2014
This IGP is deseprate to get into the good books of GEJ n PEJ. Its unfortunate dt a cop dt did so well as rivers CP wil now be messing himself up.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by willorie(f): 7:42pm On Nov 21, 2014
desgiezd:


Some minds are so warped!!

We have seen pictures of police tear gas and people covering their noses to reduce the pepperish effect. We have also seen pictures of members scaling the gate when they were not allowed access, why then cant the police or their supporters like you and Chukwudi44 post pictures where Tambuwal and his boys attacked members of the Police Force?

ask dem oooo

just incase una never see/watch the video
go to CHANNELS TV on channel 254 dat is, if u get DSTV
CHANNELS TV dey show the video every one, one hour
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by jumu: 8:48pm On Nov 21, 2014
gej will be the first president to be probed
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by nagoma(m): 9:02pm On Nov 21, 2014
New IG's Desperation for office

Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by samento: 10:38pm On Nov 21, 2014
em77:
Apc is planin to destory Nigeria. Nigerians beware of APC. their plan is 2 cause problem but they will fail.
You are as senceless as your jonathan whose plan Is to remain in power at all cost. Abacha is still in Kano abi?
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by samento: 10:58pm On Nov 21, 2014
APC are too strong an opposition for this ruling party. PDP are too childish in their approach to virtualy everything. They are easily provoked. They don't have mordern solution to whatever the opposition drop on their table. All they rely on is the state police while the opposition keep exposing their weekness to the entire world. I pity this bunch of power drunks. God will soon visit you thiefs.
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by samento: 7:16am On Nov 22, 2014
scantee:


I am not threatening anybody, the guy in question I know him in person and his entire family. just because he has access to a internet and a face less forum does not warrant him insulting the president.
Is the President not insulting Nigerians?
Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by sunnyfam: 12:39pm On Nov 22, 2014
Chukwudi44 or whot is ur name? Infact, I pity u and ur future in dis nation because, u only think dat GJ is ur hope and d hope of ur region in dis country, dat is y, it is very difficult for u to say d truth abt wot u saw and d impunity of ur do or die in Aso Rock President has been doin in dis nation since.. Chukwudi44, I think u av matured enof to understand d genesis of d fracas dat happen on Thursday ? Are u sayin dat, u don't knw d reason y Reps went to NASS premises on thursday, and are u also sayin dat, police can't differentiate or identify Hoodlums btw Tambuwal and oda Reps ? And police also ask Tambuwal to show his ID and identify himself, wich he did, despite dat, police stil askin him to wait until d police receive call b4 allowin him to enter. So pls, y again Tear Gas on Tambuwal and oda Reps for God's sake. And y police didn't arrest or show us some Hoodlums dey av arrested or Tear Gas dose Hoodlums? And moreover, Chukwudi, who told u dat, Tambuwal is not a speaker or member of the NASS anymore? Mr. Chukwudi, U are expected to be sayin d truth and commenting abt d rite thing, let some oda young pple learn gud thin and knw more truth from ur comments abt wot is goin on in dis nation instead of all dese rubbish comments of urs, because I av been following ur quotes since all dese days and I discova dat, u are too bias and sayin rubbish truout.. Chukwudi, I pity ur condition if u stil av d believ dat, dis ur president GJ can be d solution to ur life or to ur hardship, dat means u av totally lost.

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Re: Why We Invaded The National Assembly And Fired Tear Gas At The Speaker-Police by RichboyPee(m): 10:52pm On Nov 22, 2014
em77:
Apc is planin to destory Nigeria. Nigerians beware of APC. their plan is 2 cause problem but they will fail.
Just look at you? your understanding is so warped. No wonder 7 legislators can impeach a speaker in a PDP led state, no wonder 3 lawmakers attempted to do that in Rivers, no wonder the minority votes also won d governor's forum elections. Who z really destroying the country?

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