MzNelly:
There is no plausible evidence in the Bible of a fiery hell.

zeemahn:

Lake io f fire, abys, the story of Lazarus and d rich man, etc

MzNelly:

that is an illustration. Ecclesiates 9:5 does say that once dead, that's the end. The Bible also states that once dead, one is acquitted for his sins.

zeemahn:

Before I comment further,
Are you JW?

zeemahn:

Lake io f fire, abys, the story of Lazarus and d rich man, etc

Weah96:


The same Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus after almost one week of feeding the worms?

It is appointed unto man once to die, yet people were getting resurrected every 3 days by Jesus and co.

These stories were compiled by mad people.

Wonderlands:
Anti-christ, get behind me

Weah96:


The same Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus after almost one week of feeding the worms?

It is appointed unto man once to die, yet people were getting resurrected every 3 days by Jesus and co.

These stories were compiled by mad people.

MzNelly:

You already know

zeemahn:

You guyz got good argument. But many are still weak

MzNelly:

Weak, in what sense? Expatiate, if you please.

zeemahn:

Like the general ones other denominations usually offer eg I read a watchtower magazine, In the magazine, they tried to prove that JW is the true religion by asking and answering questions. No 1 question and answer was the funniest. I laugh whenever I remember it
It goes thus;
Why is JW the true way?
answer: because we serve Jehovah and act according to the words in his holy book;the Bible.
I said ok. Why is Islam true?
answer: because we serve Allah and do what is written in his holy book;the Quran

MzNelly:

Your opinion.

MzNelly:

Your opinion.

Dapo777:


So a jw is free to sin,no danger of hell fire?

MzNelly:

I specifically stated that ANYONE who dies is acquitted of his sin. The Bible itself says so. "The wages sin pay is death."

Rilwayne001:

MzNelly:

What confuses you? It's self-explanatory.

MzNelly:

I specifically stated that ANYONE who dies is acquitted of his sin. The Bible itself says so. "The wages sin pay is death."

Rilwayne001:


Okay, can you please expantiate, cos i dont see it as self-explanatory there..

Dapo777:


It's the same thing we are saying. That means I have nothing to fear if I should continue to sin on earth because I am fully assured that my sins would be forgiven once I die according to jw

MzNelly:

LOL, don't be dramatic. How do you feel the Bible is being contradictory?

Dapo777
Ecclesiastes 7:20 Indeed, there is no one on earth who is righteous, no one who does what is right and never sins.(that means we are all sinners And always would be)
Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one;(that means we would always be unrighteous )

Both points to the fact that no one is righteous,no one is good. No one would ever be righteous.
Now the Bible clearly states that wrongdoers/unrighteous/bad people will not make it to heaven.

1 Corinthians 6:9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
Ephesians 5:5 For of this you can be sure: No immoral, impure or greedy person--such a person is an idolater--has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.


So how on earth is anyone supposed to make heaven?

Christians might say we are saved by his grace alone and not by work(Ephesians 2:cool

So that means every sinner would go to heaven? Because Dey are saved by grace. Hahaha.

They will reply nooo u have to practice your faith in Christ Jesus by obeying the word of God(isn't that working?)

How deluded could this people get?

If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner, Then we are all going to hell(wrong)

If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner,And sinners are saved by his grace,Then we are all going to heaven(still wrong)

If heaven is real And everyone is a sinner ,And every sinner must exercise his faith by obeying his word,Then that makes the death of Jesus Christ unnecessary.

If everything just doesn't add up,Then I can smell delusion And cognitive dissonance.

If you are not convinced yet that you have been deceived,Then your delusion and brainwashing is beyond remedy.


Oya start insulting me!!!!! grin

Rilwayne001:


Can you tell me why no one is righteous?


Romans 3:10 As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one....

BUT

Mar 6:20 because Herod feared John and protected him, knowing him to be a righteous and holy man . When Herod heard John, he was greatly puzzled; yet he liked to listen to him.

THEN

Romans 14v12: so then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

It therefore implies that the idea “none is righteous no, not one (Roman 3v9-12) is a fabrication, an unclad fantastic lies,that is propagated with ignorance and fantasy...

MEANWHILE

Paul's apparent direct quote from Scripture that is supposed to prove to us that no one is righteous, but all are full of evil. Now guess what? No such passage exists! What Paul quotes is a compilation of no less than six separate passages. Do you care to know?

MzNelly:
No one is righteous,

because everyone is imperfect.

Everyone is vulnerable to sin. You need to understand the context in which that sentence is used.