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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by eunisam: 9:26am On Jan 11, 2015
Sermwell:
That foolish Mbaka of a fake priest really needs to know that! cheesy cheesy
don't bring a course to your generation. Watch your uterances.
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by CyberWolf: 9:28am On Jan 11, 2015
vanbonattel:

anytime you stop paying him, he yabs you openly
No I don't think so..Nobody pays Mbaka, he makes lots of money from his books, CDs(talks and music), not to talk more of his Aqua Rapha products..The truth is that sometimes, he speaks with so much emotion because of the condition of the country ..My take is that he shouldn't say who will win or loose rather, he should keep attacking our leaders to do the right thing..

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Nobody: 9:28am On Jan 11, 2015
Nobody has refuted the reasons fr. mbaka gave for not wanting jonathan's re-election but yet they are condeming him. SMH for nigerians, .no wonder your leaders take you for granted.

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Jokay07(m): 9:28am On Jan 11, 2015
ucheeee:

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/01/father-mbaka-saga-ill-close-adoration-ground-if-cardinal-olubunmi-okogie/

when does it become a sin to be supporting a political party? Yet the man is guilty for making such statement in the church
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Nobody: 9:29am On Jan 11, 2015
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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by biafranqueen: 9:32am On Jan 11, 2015
SeverusSnape:

Yeah, That's what I think; He took the issue personal.
You don't allow your emotions becloud your sense of reasoning.
The truth will come out money exchanged hands, lets wait and see.

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by cegxie(m): 9:34am On Jan 11, 2015
The Spirit of lying and confusion is spreading everywhere..
Soon somebody will ask the other when did God stop speaking to me and start speaking through you.
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Suljosh: 9:37am On Jan 11, 2015
For GOD sake they should let this man be, bi ko. The man spoke his mind.
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Emperoradrian(m): 9:38am On Jan 11, 2015
Dat he's a cardinal,and d oda a priest dos nt mean anytin.....wat we look at is dia spirituality.....if im in ss3 and my broda in pri5 is more intelligent,and knws evrytin abt sch more dan i do,den im nt fit to b called a senior.....all dis clergy men tryin to speak in favour of bad leaders,tellin dem dia is no trouble....heaven is comin...we d church members r d ones suffering 4 u all,we work our ass out,and u liv on our offerings and tithe...nw wen we start suffering as a result of our bad leaders,u nw tak sides wit d so called leader,and dey giv u fat envelops...in malachy 6:3 ..im d Almighty God,i changeth not......if u r nt carefull,God will curse ur blessings...evry1,d priest,bishop,archbishop,cardinal,even d pope,every1 shud b poor in spirit and speak d truth,cos justice shall prevail.....evrybody shud b careful abt his or her contributions to dis mbaka talk.......d voice and spirit behind it is above all...no one challenges d voice and power of God......and 4 d records....u cnt stop Adoration Ministries Enugu Nigeria (AMEN),cos its d EMPIRE OF THE HOLY GHOST endorsed by God Himself,even after d death of mbaka,it'll still continue...

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by umulobi: 9:38am On Jan 11, 2015
Sermwell:
That foolish Mbaka of a fake priest really needs to know that! cheesy cheesy
Foolish?Watch ur tongue...when God begins to punish u 2mrw u 'd start accusing innocent relatives..Touch nt my anointed $ my prophet......?
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:42am On Jan 11, 2015
philips70:




What is the difference between Mbaka's rants and this response by Rev Okogie? Is it because Mbaka said his in serious anger?
the difference is that okogie is correcting an errant subordinate

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Slimchase(m): 9:44am On Jan 11, 2015
Hmmmm...... All I can say is "CHUKWU MA NDI NKE YA" (GOD Knows His PEOPLE)


KA Chineke Mezie Okwu !!
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:45am On Jan 11, 2015
CyberWolf:
No I don't think so..Nobody pays Mbaka, he makes lots of money from his books, CDs(talks and music), not to talk more of his Aqua Rapha products..The truth is that sometimes, he speaks with so much emotion because of the condition of the country ..My take is that he shouldn't say who will win or loose rather, he should keep attacking our leaders to do the right thing..
is money ever enough for those hungry for it, ask dangote
is fame ever enough for those who want it, ask obj

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:46am On Jan 11, 2015
Suljosh:
For GOD sake they should let this man be, bi ko. The man spoke his mind.
his mind is wrong
no need to spread the infection

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Elan83(m): 9:46am On Jan 11, 2015
There is a big dffrnce btw a Rev, Pastor & a Prophet, Nigerians have abt 20milion Rev & pastors but only very few prophets wich Fr,Mbaka is d sweetest of all, d most educated & radicaly possessed by d Holy spirit, frm d ancient tym til nw it teks only few sturbon prophets 2 caution dread monarchs & authocratic kings, durin d tym of Elijah isreal has thousnds of priests & oda men of God but only Elijah was knwn, because he ws a fearless man & a radical prophet, ppl're sayin dat men of God shuld not interfair in politics & u blv dem thereby given some group of occultic men 2 power 2 control u generationly, Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Jeremiah, Isaiah , Micaiah d son of Imlah are gud exmples of radical prophets dat withstood evil & barbaric gvt of old & suceeded in turin it around 4 gud, if anybody drms of closin Adoration Ministry dat psn or psns wil die b4 d plans 're carried, d church of God most live, u cnt stop d Lords Ministry, who're u? Prophet Mbaka is a Blessed Billionaire, A Man of of God dat prospers in evritin he lays his hand upon, A successful & fulfilled seasoned Entreprenure, a Fierce Prophet & a radical entity frm Roman Catholic priesthood, d dffrnt btw Mbaka & dis man is dat Mbaka is Prophet whil d man is an ordinaly earthly priest, pls read dis event btw a prophet & oda ordinaly men of god & a king in governance, pls a most read, u'll draw meanin frm it abt wot is hpnin btw Fr.mbaka & doz ordinaly men of God, 1 Kings 22 vs 6 or strt frm verse 1, dey way i ce tins nw d Glory is or abt 2 depart frm Jonathan, it hpnd 2 saul d 1st king of isreal. Mind u dat God is capable of raisin ur enemy 2 rule ova u if u cnt rule urslves, dats wot is likely goin 2 hpn, God did it 2 his ppl d isrealits, since jonothan can not rule his ppl well, He God can raise Buhari 2 rule jonathan very well but wit anoda styl of rulin, Note: its not advisable 2 fght a prophet or ignore his warnins,rather u shuld humble urslf,wear sackcloth & wit prayers & suplications u ask 4d way forward frm God!
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:49am On Jan 11, 2015
Emperoradrian:
Dat he's a cardinal,and d oda a priest dos nt mean anytin.....wat we look at is dia spirituality.....if im in ss3 and my broda in pri5 is more intelligent,and knws evrytin abt sch more dan i do,den im nt fit to b called a senior.....all dis clergy men tryin to speak in favour of bad leaders,tellin dem dia is no trouble....heaven is comin...we d church members r d ones suffering 4 u all,we work our ass out,and u liv on our offerings and tithe...nw wen we start suffering as a result of our bad leaders,u nw tak sides wit d so called leader,and dey giv u fat envelops...in malachy 6:3 ..im d Almighty God,i changeth not......if u r nt carefull,God will curse ur blessings...evry1,d priest,bishop,archbishop,cardinal,even d pope,every1 shud b poor in spirit and speak d truth,cos justice shall prevail.....evrybody shud b careful abt his or her contributions to dis mbaka talk.......d voice and spirit behind it is above all...no one challenges d voice and power of God......and 4 d records....u cnt stop Adoration Ministries Enugu Nigeria (AMEN),cos its d EMPIRE OF THE HOLY GHOST endorsed by God Himself,even after d death of mbaka,it'll still continue...
why has mbaka avoided all the troubles in the catholic church
The corruption
the paedophile priests
open fornication in the churches
konji worrying priests

and all he sees and blames are politicians?
na them cause him problems?

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by rhymz(m): 9:51am On Jan 11, 2015
joseph1832:
Cardinal Okogie should know that religion and politics are like siamese twin. They mix very well!. Our very lives is guided by politics, everything we do or choose not to do is politics, so what on Earth is the cardinal saying?.
The point is this, as a clergy, it is not in your place to campaign for anybody on the pulpit, you don't sell personal opinions and biases as sermons to your congregation and say holy spirit. The same man said worse things about Chimaroke, to the point he would even tell members of his chur have to point to the government house and shout all the Holy Ghost fire in the world to burn the people there, he went so far to the extent he bragged and said if the Chimaroke wins his re-election, he would drop his priestly garment, Chimaroke won his re-election bid and shunned the talkative ed!ot.

Recently, he told Ohakim that he would become imo state governor again, the ed!ot came a distant 3rd at the gubernatorial primaries. Nobody takes Mbaka seriously because he is full of emotional bullshyte and outburst especially when you don't recognize him. The man is too full of himself, too political and meddlesome, his opinions show exactly that he dies not understand the Nigerian polity. He should keep his opinions for his close friends who would care to listen when they discuss politics not to preach it as some Holy Ghost inspired message to unsuspecting crowd because Rochas and the likes are beginning to play your tune.

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:52am On Jan 11, 2015
Elan83:
There is a big dffrnce btw a Rev, Pastor & a Prophet, Nigerians have abt 20milion Rev & pastors but only very few prophets wich Fr,Mbaka is d sweetest of all, d most educated & radicaly possessed by d Holy spirit, frm d ancient tym til nw it teks only few sturbon prophets 2 caution dread monarchs & authocratic kings, durin d tym of Elijah isreal has thousnds of priests & oda men of God but only Elijah was knwn, because he ws a fearless man & a radical prophet, ppl're sayin dat men of God shuld not interfair in politics & u blv dem thereby given some group of occultic men 2 power 2 control u generationly, Elijah, Elisha, Amos, Jeremiah, Isaiah , Micaiah d son of Imlah are gud exmples of radical prophets dat withstood evil & barbaric gvt of old & suceeded in turin it around 4 gud, if anybody drms of closin Adoration Ministry dat psn or psns wil die b4 d plans 're carried, d church of God most live, u cnt stop d Lords Ministry, who're u? Prophet Mbaka is a Blessed Billionaire, A Man of of God dat prospers in evritin he lays his hand upon, A successful & fulfilled seasoned Entreprenure, a Fierce Prophet & a radical entity frm Roman Catholic priesthood, d dffrnt btw Mbaka & dis man is dat Mbaka is Prophet whil d man is an ordinaly earthly priest, pls read dis event btw a prophet & oda ordinaly men of god & a kind in governance, pls a most read, u'll draw meanin frm it abt wot is hpnin btw Fr.mbaka & doz ordinaly men of God, 1 Kings 22 vs 6 or strt frm verse 1, dey way i ce tins nw d Glory is or abt 2 depart frm Jonathan, it hpnd 2 saul d 1st king of isreal.
mbaka is about the richest man of God in the east of nigeria
how did he make his billions?
from you, me and politicians
if not let him return all the money donated to his ministry

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:53am On Jan 11, 2015
rhymz:
The point is this, as a clergy, it is not in your place to campaign for anybody on the pulpit, you don't sell personal opinions and biases as sermons to your congregation and say holy spirit. The same man said worse things about Chimaroke, to the point he would even tell members of his chur have to point to the government house and shout all the Holy Ghost fire in the world to burn the people there, he went so far to the extent he bragged and said if the Chimaroke wins his re-election, he would drop his priestly garment, Chimaroke won his re-election bid and shunned the talkative ed!ot.

Recently, he told Ohakim that he would become imo state governor again, the ed!ot came a distant 3rd at the gubernatorial primaries. Nobody takes Mbaka seriously because he is full of emotional bullshyte and outburst especially when you don't recognize him. The man is too full of himself, too political and meddlesome, his opinions show exactly that he dies not understand the Nigerian polity. He should keep his opinions for his close friends who would care to listen when they discuss politics not to preach it as some Holy Ghost inspired message to unsuspecting crowd because Rochas and the likes are beginning to play your tune.
the man is always fulll of bitterness in his sermons

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by philips70(m): 9:54am On Jan 11, 2015
vanbonattel:

the difference is that okogie is correcting an errant subordinate

No, the only difference is Fr Mbaka reverberated what elderly Rev Okogie have been saying which he reiterated in my quote in a youthful manner. Jonathan is a monumental failure. Even the gods of Otuoke are seriously angry with him.

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 9:58am On Jan 11, 2015
berem:
Close Adoration Ministries and see how the Catholic church in Enugu goes down.

When Mbaka called APC a boko haram party when mama piss visited him,these hypocritical reverend fathers didn't say anything. Why are they making noise now?

They should leave Mbaka alone joor!
let his seniors call him to order

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Koolking(m): 9:58am On Jan 11, 2015
People are misunderstanding Rev Mbaka's commentary. When will Nigerians learn to differentiate truth from being partisan?

This why Nigeria will never move forward. Tell the truth as it is meant, most Nigerians feel you are full of hate, biased, partisan, ethnocentric and prejudiced.

Of course Rev Mbaka is a man of God. He is not expected to be anybody's puppet or sycophant. Truth should be his watchword. Watching the purported video he made this truth known, there was no element of partisan in his sermon.

We all agitate for change, but hate truths. Bear in mind that truths engender change and change is inevitable
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 10:00am On Jan 11, 2015
philips70:


No, the only difference is Fr Mbaka reverberated what elderly Rev Okogie have been saying which he reiterated in my quote in a youthful manner. Jonathan is a monumental failure. Even the gods of Otuoke are seriously angry with him.
that kind of talk should not be heard from the pulpit of the church of God
mbaka should resign and join politics
apart from that, he is just heating up the nation unnecessarily

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by CyberWolf: 10:00am On Jan 11, 2015
vanbonattel:

is money ever enough for those hungry for it, ask dangote
is fame ever enough for those who want it, ask obj
Mbaka is neither Dangote nor OBJ..He is not looking for money or fame because has given him all those things..He is just doing what he is suppose to do. I'm a staunch supporter of GEJ but that does not mean we shouldn't tell him to do the right thing..He is human after all and is bound to make mistakes..
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Nobody: 10:01am On Jan 11, 2015
Na wa 4 Nigerians ooo if the Notherners decide
to kill their brothers and sisters because of selfish
interest na GEJ concern? And does that mean he
shouldn't celebrate with his family again, I want
GEJ so if u no like am like dat go Hug
Transformer capito

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 10:03am On Jan 11, 2015
Koolking:
People are misunderstanding Rev Mbaka's commentary. When will Nigerians learn to differentiate truth from being partisan?

This why Nigeria will never move forward. Tell the truth as it is meant, most Nigerians feel you are full of hate, biased, partisan, ethnocentric and prejudiced.

Of course Rev Mbaka is a man of God. He is not expected to be anybody's puppet or sycophant. Truth should be his watchword. Watching the purported video he made this truth known, there was no element of partisan in his sermon.

We all agitate for change, but hate truths. Bear in mind that truths engender change and change is inevitable

this is not the first time
or the seventh time he is yabbing a politician
while his domain is burning
mbaka should treat the rot in the catholic church first
he should remove the log of wood from his eyes

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by fahren(m): 10:04am On Jan 11, 2015
President Jonathan's campaign buses were set ablaze by angry youths. We insist on peace during the elections, politics is not war, elections are not a battle, violence is strongly condemned. #TeamNigeria , #IsayNoToElectoralViolence

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Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 10:05am On Jan 11, 2015
CyberWolf:
Mbaka is neither Dangote nor OBJ..He is not looking for money or fame because has given him all those things..He is just doing what he is suppose to do. I'm a staunch supporter of GEJ but that does not mean we shouldn't tell him to do the right thing..He is human after all and is bound to make mistakes..
you are being naive
what is the single thing that gave mbaka his billions?
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by vanbonattel: 10:06am On Jan 11, 2015
fahren:
President Jonathan's campaign buses were set ablaze by angry youths. We insist on peace during the elections, politics is not war, elections are not a battle, violence is strongly condemned. #TeamNigeria , #IsayNoToElectoralViolence
mbaka is fanning the embars of violence by his comments openly
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by CyberWolf: 10:11am On Jan 11, 2015
vanbonattel:

you are being naive
what is the single thing that gave mbaka his billions?
Mbaka makes nothing less than N20M monthly from his Aqua Rapha products only..
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by ijechikky(f): 10:11am On Jan 11, 2015
ceo4eva:

Mbaka seems confused. He's speaking from both sides of his mouth.
Mbaka confused?? Lol if I hear
Ve u heard stories of him nd d past nd present Govnrs of Enugu,"Chimaroke&Sullivan?
Or about d down-fall of Union Bank??
My brodaa d fear of Mbaka is d begining of wisdom...he categorically knws wat he's doing exceptionally..
Re: Father Mbaka Saga: ’Mixing Religion With Politics Is Dangerous' -Cardinal Okogie by Koolking(m): 10:12am On Jan 11, 2015
vanbonattel:

this is not the first time
or the seventh time he is yabbing a politician
while his domain is burning
mbaka should treat the rot in the catholic church first
he should remove the log of wood from his eyes

For Heaven's sake, this man is a Nigerian. He is enentitled to his opinion on national issues. He is a leader and wants what is best for him and his followers. We worship our corrupt leaders far too much because of certain personal benefits we gain from them, consequent on this we become 'yes sir' freaks and not able to be objective in our decisions and actions. If men of God can speak against our politician let they be.

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