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Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Cutehector(m): 6:30am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Wen judgement day comes, we shall all knw weda gambling was a sin or not. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 6:53am On Feb 09, 2015 |
dameekberry: First of all it's malachi 3:10-11 and not Matthew 3. That said, to address all those asking me to read malachi to know more about tithes, they have only concluded in convincing me that they know next to nothing about tithes and their tithes knowledge is limited to what their pastors have brainwashed them with. There are at least 20 passages in the bible that talk about tithes and most of them explain it better than the malachi passage pastors love to quote. Their preference for quoting malachi 3 is cause it can be easily twisted to suit the pastor's bias. If you really want to know more about tithes read deuteronomy 14:22-29 where it is clearly defined and also read hebrews 7:5-19 where tithing was anulled and described as a weak, useless and unprofitable law. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 7:08am On Feb 09, 2015 |
CrazyMan: 2 Likes |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Jeromejnr(m): 7:26am On Feb 09, 2015 |
brocab: Tithing doesn't have anything to do with sin. The law showed us that we were sinful, so things in the law had to be followed. But tithing was of of free will, even though it was later added to the law. I didn't say if u didn't tithe you will go to hell. Just the same way Jesus said for you to receive you have to give. That doesn't mean if you don't do it you are a sinner it just means you won't enjoy in the blessings of receiving what God has for you. Titihing is a way we honour God and keeping our view of money in the right balance. So that the blessing promised from it can come into our lives and also for keeping the house of God. And this storehouse you people have been shouting since. Where the Jews actually entering the storehouses themselves or was it the Levites? So now the church building does not have a storehouse. They don't need the money I guess. Let the pastors take care of it themselves. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by iretex1(m): 7:44am On Feb 09, 2015 |
danbrowndmf: In my opinion, if you don't feel comfortable to tithe an income based on it's source, it may be disastrous to continue with that kind of business, something is fundamentally wrong... Don't seek for any lie to ease your conscience, the choice is yours. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Jeromejnr(m): 7:47am On Feb 09, 2015 |
PastorKun: So let's look at Hebrews 6:20 & 7:2 (look at the gar used there. First in verse 20- The writer says Jesus has been made a high priest after the same order of Melchizedek. Then in 7:2 The writer says to whom Also Abraham paid his tithes to him that was just like Jesus is know now. The Emphasis is on the word "ALSO". Why will he use the world "also". Well because they were already paying tithes to Jesus who is in that same order. So he used something they could relate to. Tithing wasn't described as the weak and unprofitable because it is of free will which if you don't participate in would not enjoy the benefits. But the ordinances that had to be kept by force (washing of hands, animal sacrifices.e.t.c) That was what was abolished. Because if u didn't do them then judgement was expected. Just the same way it was advised to women by Paul to always cover their hairs because of their past traditions. That doesn't mean if they don't do it, its a sin. And which church do you go to sef. So I will see if I'm wasting my time talking. Is it JW? |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by seagulsntrawler: 7:59am On Feb 09, 2015 |
missionmex:Can you support your assertion by telling us those activities that are legitimate, with relevant bible verses? Thanks |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Humblebloke(m): 8:11am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Amusaopeyemi: Less privileged people like Bishop Oyedepo 1 Like |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by sunntrost(m): 8:22am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Since you know that gambling it self is a sin, you should know that any proceed from it will not be accepted. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by brocab: 8:24am On Feb 09, 2015 |
No maybe not to you, But tithing sacrificing and offerings played together as a team. If you tithe, then sacrifice, then make your offer to God, not just pick one out the 3 and force people to tithe. Tithing was not a freewill, it was part of the Mosaic law. And when Abram paid a tithe to the King, it was not from his hard earned cash flow. Other then from the spoils of war, that didn't belong to him. Jesus said give. Acts 3:6 silver and gold I do not have, but what I do have I give you. In the name of Jesus of Nazareth rise up and walk. Peter did not expect to receive, Peter said rise up and walk. I don't give expecting a 100 or 60 or 30 fold to be returned back to me, I'm happy to see someone else receive a blessing from the lord. I retrieve my blessings when I study the word-seeking his kingdom, what greater blessings could ever beat that. The Lord knows my needs, before I ask him. And your other quotes don't make any sense. Jeromejnr: |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Mega72(m): 8:44am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Its a SIN! |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 9:04am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: As per the bolded the answer is found in hebrews 7:18 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. The commandment being spoken of in the bolded above if found in verse 5 of the same chapter. Hebrews 7:5King James Version (KJV) 5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: So clearly the tithe law as been anulled and you people should stop using it to defraud christians. ps: I am not a johavah witness but a bible believing christian who hates it when mere men twist God's word and preach their man made doctrines as commandments from God. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Jeromejnr(m): 9:04am On Feb 09, 2015 |
brocab: I have heard you sir. As for me God blesses me with it. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by ooshinibos: 9:06am On Feb 09, 2015 |
simple //// its wrong...except u win lotterry |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Jeromejnr(m): 9:11am On Feb 09, 2015 |
PastorKun: Learn to rightly divide the word of truth. As a Pastor that you call yourself stop spending your time watching African Magic and use it to study the word. Why do you even still fast if it was done in old testament. Rightly divide the truth. I no argue again o. Its not by force. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by brocab: 9:47am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Fasting and old testament commandments under the Law of Moses. The law of Moses specifically required fasting only one occasion-The day of atonement,Leviticus 16:29-30, 23:27-31, Numbers 29:7. Jesus fasted, most of the prophets fasted It's funny with some people they will use every scripture possible from every law given to try to prove some ridiculous truth, that tithing still exist. And the funny thing about all this, anger rises. Jeromejnr: |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by kentozybee(m): 9:56am On Feb 09, 2015 |
PastorKun:Open Ur Bible To The Book Of Malachi Chapter 3,Read Everything There |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 9:58am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Jeromejnr: You are the one that needs to rightly divide the word of truth as the scriptures I quoted are crystal clear and you can't fault them. Also when you learn to rightly divide the word, you will learn that scriptural tithe is not money and that it is a sin to twist it to mean money. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 10:03am On Feb 09, 2015 |
kentozybee: Another ignorant person that knows next to nothing about tithes |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by bizhub: 10:10am On Feb 09, 2015 |
Visa lottery, normal lottery, forex and who wants to be a millionaire, text and win promos from companies |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by BBackOurGlory: 10:51am On Feb 09, 2015 |
[quote author=PastorKun post=30560056][/quote] [size=20pt] [b]Tithes: Deuteronomy 14:22-27 22 Be sure to set aside a tenth of all that your fields produce each year. 23 Eat the tithe of your grain, new wine and olive oil, and the firstborn of your herds and flocks in the presence of the Lord your God at the place he will choose as a dwelling for his Name, so that you may learn to revere the Lord your God always. 24 But if that place is too distant and you have been blessed by the Lord your God and cannot carry your tithe (because the place where the Lord will choose to put his Name is so far away), 25 then exchange your tithe for silver, and take the silver with you and go to the place the Lord your God will choose. 26 Use the silver to buy whatever you like: cattle, sheep, wine or other fermented drink, or anything you wish. Then you and your household shall eat there in the presence of the Lord your God and rejoice. 27 And do not neglect the Levites living in your towns, for they have no allotment or inheritance of their own. Pastor is this Deuteronomy 14:22-27 not in your scripture? Stop selective quotation... Tithes is to be Eating at the place God as Chosen with you and your househol; the Levites are to be invited also for the meal.. NO INSTRUCTION TO PAY TITHES TO THE LEVITES IN THE BIBLE. [/b] [/size] |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by BBackOurGlory: 10:54am On Feb 09, 2015 |
[size=20pt]Tither; Deuteronomy 14:28-29 28 At the end of every three years, bring all the tithes of that year’s produce and store it in your towns, 29 so that the Levites (who have no allotment or inheritance of their own) and the foreigners, the fatherless and the widows who live in your towns may come and eat and be satisfied, and so that the Lord your God may bless you in all the work of your hands.[/size] |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by brocab: 12:10pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
praise the Lord. Jeromejnr: |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 12:51pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
BBackOurGlory: Are you sure you read what what I wrote Cause if you did, you would have seen that I am 100% against christians tithing based on old testament scriptures. It's a clear case of pious fraud. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by killercute16(m): 1:18pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
okotv:i just checked it nw and it does not state any thing about gambling. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by killercute16(m): 1:30pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
timidapsin:Oooooooh...you just made sense here |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by killercute16(m): 1:37pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
jerrymej:How is it a wrong way of money? Did you decieve anyboby? Did you shed someone's blood when doing it? Pls i need ur explaination. |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by PastorKun(m): 1:46pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
timidapsin: Even tithing sef is gambling cause most pastors promise believers who tithe a thousand fold return on the tithes they pay. However in reality we know that 99.999% don't reap this returns promised them. 1 Like |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by Nobody: 2:02pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
lmao! and I used to think I was alone in this tithe and gambling issue..... una funny die |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by afanide: 2:08pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
Re: Pay Tithe From The Money You Got From Gambleing, Right Or Wrong? by aviazuva: 3:38pm On Feb 09, 2015 |
Every fruit that comes out of a bad tree is bad. |
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