meforyou1:
state in clear language why it's goodluck and not obasanjo

I will give u only 10 reasons why goodluck should be held responsible for pdp free fall.

1. Not even one quarel amongst members was resolved amicably. He never brokered as a leader. He instead will look for new friends and allow feuding members sort themselves
2. He gave his wife too much powers. He never questioned her actions.
3. He was fond of calling the igbos pillar of his govt (pls am not a tribalist). This sent a wrong signal to other parts of the country.
4. He showed open admiration towards some members at the expense of others
5. He allowed some very powerful members to leave the party. He covertly supported the move to push them out. He told the whole world that they wont be missed.
6. As a father and leader of a big house he never bothered to question the activities of his kitchen cabinet members.
7. He played politics of pady pdy when he was suppose to be a father
8. He used unconstitutional means to remove obj's loyalist from the party executive commitee
9. From nasarawa to abia to rivers to imo to enugu, ebonyi and even lagos state pdp primaries leading to the 2015 election caused so much disafection. He never bothered to broker real peace and true reconciliation. Some members moved camp while others became moles.
10. He was holier than the pope. As a party leader he openly showed the muslims in his party that he careless bout theor religion. When his spokes persons are not brandishing the entire muslims boko haram, he will openly affiliate with CAN. This would have been ok but since nigeria is a secular stae he should have showen equal respect to all religions.

Let me stop here. No insults pls. Constructive counter opinion pls.

LRNZH:
Blaming GEJ for PDP's near-demise is giving the retardeen too much credit.

OBJ's 'Third Term' ambition started the destruction of PDP. Corrupt senators/governors who supported it became party leaders and held sway while progressive minded fellows opposed OBJ from within PDP.

Baba lost and in his typical vindictive way, sidelined the great leadership materials in PDP to pick stooges through which he (OBJ) will hopefully continue ruling by proxy. Enter Yaradua and GEJ.

Yar'adua's govt was largely hijacked by Ibori (hence the illogical witch hunts of figures like Ribadu). GEJ is clueless. Period. No need to expatiate. That man cannot just see beyond his eye lashes.

OBJ's god complex killed PDP. Today, Baba Iyabo pretends as if he is a progressive. The 2015 elections should be summarised as Nigeria's effort to correct OBJ's ill informed decisions after 8 years.

no b lie

Gbawe:
We dey laff in OBJ voice. With the guber results in today it is clear the divisive and highly self-serving Jonathan has managed to dismantle the PDP and destroy the Party totally from within. Perhaps those who say Jonathan was "sent by God" have a point after all.

Jonathan is a catalyst for change!. Someone said that here on Nairaland sometime ago and it has come to pass. Jonathan is the best thing to happen to Nigerian democracy, whether by omission or commission.

ijebubabe:


Are you referring to Bamaga Tukur ?

Yes.

Back from nairaland Jail.

One prophet once said GEJ will be the last PDP President.

ibietela2:


Buhari is eating with Angels?

HYPOCRITES

This thread is to discuss GEJ and his failure. If you're so pained, create a thread to discuss Buhari.

Keme

pazienza:
The story of a minority president.


He was not a member of of the Odua-Arewa gang up, by the virtue of his place of origin, he had no right to rule Nigeria, only those from the gang up has the right to. He was bestowed with power by divine intervention, he wanted to retain the power, but the gang up are not having any of it, he pleaded and made promises and agreements with the gang, for he had no right to lead, so they granted him an extra four years, but he was too busy trying to please the gang up, even to the neglect of his own people, corruption was on the rise, as they kept demanding from him, he had to let them have their way to the treasury, they even used it to turn the people against him, even when they were the beneficiaries, if only he knew that nothing he did would have ever pleased them or their people, perhaps he would. have concentrated more on his people, perhaps he would have outed the "Cabals", but his personal ambitions beclouded him.

He was a cornered animal, there was no escape for him, his date of political death had already been fixed by the gang up, he knew he was cornered, so he made his first move, he tried to post pone his date of death by 3 more years, for he suggested a 7 year single tenure, but the gang up checkmated him, they saw that move coming.

But he wasn't going to go down without a fight, armed with hordes of advisers, he made the next move, he attacked his prisoners head on, they fled in their numbers, only to re group in a New camp under a new logo, and grew in power as the days went by.

Then suddenly, his day of reckoning came,he fought to the end, but a man can't change his fate, so he surrendered and let them have their way, he was done!

You took your time. I was expecting you. Where on earth would this thread be without the usual "GEJ was a victim of a Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba gang-up" contribution? What happened is that Tinubu (politician) and buhari (politician) defeated GEJ( politician). If you want to make it Tinubu (Yoruba) and Buhari (Fulani) ganged-up to defeat GEJ (Ijaw) then that is your own business. All I know is that your talk reveals the attitude of a failure with a siege mentality and persecution complex. Politics happened. Get over it and learn some useful lessons instead of crying all over the forum about "betrayal" and "gang-up" pitifully.

reborn1:
Back from nairaland Jail.

One prophet once said GEJ will be the last PDP President.

Perhaps he is right. It might be easier to make KOWA the main opposition than to try and rebuild the PDP which is now a failed brand and essentially a regional Party as things stand.

Sweetguy25:
He destroyed PDP by allowing free and fair elections and also tolerating opposition?

Did I hear you say free and fair election? If he had his way, he would have done otherwise. he could only rig massively in the SS n SE cos no room for such in the North and SW having lost their trusts in him

tripod:


I will give u only 10 reasons why goodluck should be held responsible for pdp free fall.

1. Not even one quarel amongst members was resolved amicably. He never brokered as a leader. He instead will look for new friends and

All you have said is true , especially number 1 above, but Jonathanians have no capacity for facing the truth. Jonathan's style was to try and politically destroy those who disagree with him or are unwilling to let him have his ways. The GEJ-backed impeachment of Nyarko and attempted impeachment of Al Makura caused a great deal of bad blood and widened the already big chasm that existed between member of the PDP GEJ had already divided and set against each other.

You got it spot-on when you argued Jonathan was never interested in brokering peace. He was power drunk and believed his position meant he was above others and could not be brought down. Do you remember how he handled the whole G-7 governors issue? He bullied them out of the PDP and kept them out with his arrogant and dictatorially belligerent snub of the relatively straightforward conditions the governors gave for returning to the PDP. As usual, GEJ stuck his fingers up at them and told them he did not "give a damn". This is why I personally despise the fans of GEJ who prefer to operate with ethnocentric fervour and revisionism rather than face the truth. They will claim "ethnic gang-up" and that GEJ's "only crime" was to "allow free and fair election" but forget the period below, and many like it, where GEJ arrogantly chose the path of war and discord thus leaving others no choice but to take him on for their political survival.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/11/g-7-govs-give-jonathan-fresh-conditions/

G-7 govs give Jonathan fresh conditions

on November 22, 2013 / in News 12:55 am / Comments


By Soni Daniel, Regional Editor, North

The seven aggrieved Peoples Democratic Party, PDP, governors have tabled new demands before President Goodluck Jonathan as conditions for making peace with him and the leadership of the party.

Vanguard learnt from competent sources close to the group that the governors tabled the new set of demands following indications by the Presidency that it was willing to resume peace talks with them.

[b]It was learnt that among other conditions, the governors wanted the suspension of Governor Rotimi Amaechi of River State lifted, while the Presidency should also recognise him as the leader of Nigeria Governors’ Forum.

Besides, it was gathered that the governors are also insisting that PDP must lift the suspension on Prince Olagunsoye Oyinlola and allow him resume as the National Secretary of the party in accordance with the Appeal Court judgment.

Apart from the embattled secretary of the party, the ‘rebel governors’ also want recall of factional chairman, Abubakar Kawu Baraje; his deputy, Sam Sam Jaja and Ambassador Kazaure as well as removal of Alhaji Bamanga Tukur as national chairman of the party.

The governors are also said to have requested the President to call the FCT Minister, Bala Muhammed, to order over his peceived assault on the G-7 governors.

They are equally reported to have asked Jonathan to restore the security aides of the governors, which were withdrawn in the wake of the political crisis and to sanction the policemen that tried to disrupt their meetings in Abuja.

One of the governors confirmed to Vanguard, yesterday, that they were open to any discussion that would lead to peace, but doubted if the Presidency was ready for genuine peace and reconciliation.[/b]

the only thing constant in life is change. as far as i am concerned na turn by turn. pdp turn don pass na apc turn now. after apc guess d next party?

Sweetguy25:
He destroyed PDP by allowing free and fair elections and also tolerating opposition?

what makes an election to be free and fair? Using army to intimidate the electorates or conceding defeat?

Sweetguy25:


Well, since you're an honest man, kindly tell us precisely how GEJ destroyed his party.
Thank you very much.

I'll help you: We all agree pdp was a national party,right? What does it take to be a national party? In the real sense of the word, a national party carries everyone along. Muslims, Christians, Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa, atheists, Ibibio, Kanuri..name it. To keep all these divergent interests under the purview of one umbrella (if I may leverage the pun in that), the last thing you want to do is play ethnic/religious politics, or allow people willing to pay such dirty games hijack your disposition. This takes an incredible deal of effort and alertness to accomplish. Note that the alternative, that is, doing nothing about it, might maximise your popularity with the favoured group...but this effect is mutual and opposite with the unfavoured group.

Jonathan might have been a good person, but he never cared about being perceived to be good. He allowed the likes of Oritsejeafor, Asari Dokubo, Oyedepo and Patience polarise the country with their inflammatory pronouncements. His silence was seen as tacit approval and the preexisting schisms became aggravated, with the resulting effects commencing from under the umbrella itself. Those who felt their interests were marginalised had no further reason to continue to remain with him...remember, to maintain national spread, you must carry everyone along, not marginalise them. Jonathan was the author of his own downfall through his silence; or perhaps, his inability to take charge of his ship.

ijebubabe:
Gbawe, I think the blame lies soley with Obasanjo.

He should not have handpicked Yar'adua knowing fully well he had health challenges neither should he have handpicked Jonathan who mere looking at him is obviously clueless not forgetting his illiterate wife.

Obasanjo had the opportunity to choose from several fit, healthy, intelligent and credible people to succeed him but he chose the worst. Assuming he had chosen Atiku for example (I'm glad he didn't though), PDP won't be in this mess today. Donald Duke was also an option.

After wrecking PDP thanks to his choice of candidates, he has now abandoned them.

I hope APC stops fratenising with Obasanjo. That old fox cannot be trusted.

This has nothing to do with Obasanjo. Once you are in that seat, it is at your own discretion to provide the electorates what they require of you and the electorates can exercise their civic right based on your performance. Goodluck, as the national leader of the PDP, destroyed the PDP party by not reconciling warring factions and by allowing disintegration of the party. This is not about winning an election or allowing a free and fair election; which should be the case automatically. However, Goodluck allowed aggrieved members to defect to the opposition and made the opposition stronger. He and the PDP stalwarts should be held responsible for the massive defeat of the PDP.

I am also grateful to God that at least the votes of the electorates now counts, despite the irregularities that occurred in some states. I also want to correct an anomaly being represented on Goodluck conducting a free and fair election. The process actually began with the late President Yaradua, after widespread condemnation from both International and local observers on the 2007 elections. However, we must be grateful to President Goodluck for consolidating the process and likewise, for conceding defeat. I also want to add that President Goodluck was left with no option than to concede defeat, if he had chosen otherwise, there would have been tension in the country and he would also be held responsible for it by the international court of justice.

Now, it is up to the President-Elect to implement proper democracy structures because, unfortunately, we have never had a true democracy. Nigeria is currently experiencing civil rule but not a true democracy. A true democracy is one where institution works without interference.

babasanti:


Its on vanguard newspaper, ibb said it with his mouth. Pdp was formed in his house,google it and see. Late Rimi is IBb's boy

IBB said what?

Let me help you out.

The PDP was an amalgamation of groups. Initiated by G9, comprising Dr. Alex Ekwueme, Chief Solomon Lar, Senator Francis Ellah, Alhaji Abubakar Rimi, Chief Bola Ige, Dr. Iyorcha Ayu, Prof. Jerry Gana, Alhaji Sule Lamido and Mallam Adamu Ciroma, it metamorphosed to G18 and G34. Founded on August 31, 1998 , the PDP has had 11 national chairmen in the last 17 years, including ex-Vice President Alex Ekwueme who was in office for three months before quitting to contest for the presidential ticket with ex-President Olusegun Obasanjo. Other past chairmen were the late Chief Solomon Lar; Sen. Barnabas Gemade; Chief Audu Ogbeh; Sen. Ahmadu Ali; Prince Vincent Ogbulafor; Okwesilieze Nwodo; Bello Haliru Mohammed; Abubakar Kawu Baraje; Bamanga Tukur; and Adamu Muazu. But the build-up to the fall of the PDP started during its National Convention in 1999 when it began to change its leadership like clothes. At the said convention, Chief Gemade, who was backed by the presidency, defeated Chief Sunday Awoniyi to become the first elected national chairman of the party. It was the first direct interference of the government in the internal affairs of the PDP and most foundation members were disappointed that the then Obasanjo administration was about to hijack the party structure.