SirShymexx:
@Ralphlauren

I think the guy was alluding gentrification, and how all boroughs with huge black populations are gradually being gentrified.

Boris has been pulling down all the council estates, for new ones, with mostly US companies. And not all those folks are being returned to the new ones. The face of London is changing, and even the City and everywhere on the East end of Thames River aren't left out, with skyscrapers popping up everywhere. Only North and West London are safe for now.

Ralphlauren:


If that's his point (which I doubt), he should have just made his point rather than rambling.

Yeah, I know they've pulling down all the old council houses (eg. Your hometown, Peckham) and replacing them with new ones but I thought most people affected were being re-homed.

SirShymexx:


Not everyone. They are even moving some out of London.

The mad thing about it is that, a lot of those new structures have two entrances - one for the poor and one for the rich. Everywhere is changing.

Ralphlauren:



Are you for real?

paulolee:
hmmmm.....
we all kno dt e did it to get d votes...
politics ain't made to b taken to churches
GEJ visited some top churches n still lost to buhari who visited none
just hope dt Cameron's case ain't lyk GEJ story

Ralphlauren:



Are you for real?

SirShymexx:


Lol. Boris is nuts lool.

Read this link: http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/jul/25/poor-doors-segregation-london-flats

Obamani:


Don't listen to him. The building is divided into 2 sections. One side was sold to private owners and the other half is for council tenants paying cheap/no rent.

naijababe:


You have to tell me the meaning of gerrymandering first

50calibre:



I don't!! Care to tell me why he went there? because given the timing, the only logical conclusion is that he went there to in-directly solicit for votes.

Ralphlauren:



Did you read the link at all

That they are mandated to provide affordable housing as part of the requirements for planning permission is really no excuse to provide a "posh" entrance/lobby for one class of people and just a plain stairway for another.

These property developers make massive money from these building projects.

Ralphlauren:


The dude is just chatting bullocks!

He is best ignored.

Obamani:


They would make a lot more if they weren't forced to provide affordable housing. The private investors have already returned the favor for getting planning permission. It should be the governments job to provide social housing for it's people. It's all good bashing developers for wanting to make profits from their investments even though these are the same people who they are begging to solve the housing shortage...

Ralphlauren:

Did you read the link at all

That they are mandated to provide affordable housing as part of the requirements for planning permission is really no excuse to provide a "posh" entrance/lobby for one class of people and just a plain stairway for another.

These property developers make massive money from these building projects.

martinosi:


Look at KMB Post.. which is below yours and the trail on why Cameroun came to RCCG will get warmer to you
or else you are really in the dark... i post you KMB Post for you just to get you going in thought

Ralphlauren:


Lmaoooo

Ralphlauren:



get lost abeg.

toyeoye:
Politicians!! The same yesterday, today and till tomorrow

Ralphlauren:


I'm a little familiar with how planning permissions work for developers. If I remember correctly, they are to earmark 10% of flats from the proposed construction for affordable housing and that's not too much in my opinion considering the money these developers make in return.

Apart from providing homes, the essence of the "affordable housing" clause is to ensure social equality. Certain houses/postcodes should not be reserved for the rich only.

Personally, I think the only way the housing shortage can be resolved is to relax planning rules. They are just too stringent. Getting planning permission to build in "green belt zones" are almost impossible. Getting the same planning permission to extend or convert an existing property can also be a pain.

A developer could have the best intentions only for residents of the community to reject their proposal during the consultation stage, hence putting the councils in a limbo.

SirShymexx:


Some folks are best ignored. How do you expect someone with naij mentality, where folks who drive banger Peugeot 407 get chauffeured around like King Jaffe Joffer know what segregation/class problem is?

Obamani:


You are such a dunce. What naij mentality are you talking about? You have no idea of my upbringing, class or background. You score zero on your profiling skills.

Obamani:


I fully agree with you regarding the need to relax the strict planning rules. I've been a property developer for 7 years now and the red tape regarding extensions and conversions of homes to flats is ridiculous. Safety, suitability and visual impact should be their main consideration. Splitting an extended house with a floor space of 180m2 into 2 flats is impossible if the original floor space was under 130m2. A house with 7 massive bedrooms can only be used as HMO but some 3 bedroom house can get planning permission to become 2 flats. Land is not infinite. If they want more homes they will have to start building taller.

It's not easy for developers, the restrictions and red tape eats into most of the profits. What most people don't understand is that if profits become too small for the developers, they will simply invest their money elsewhere and NO houses would get built.

Obamani:


You are such a dunce. What naij mentality are you talking about? You have no idea of my upbringing, class or background. You score zero on your profiling skills.

SirShymexx:


Obnoxious stark illiterate, I don't need to peruse too tough to get a clear picture of ya background. The idiotic logic you spouted on the subject-matter, is enough to know the cloth you were cut from.

Anyone with an IQ higher than 70, and who isn't from a society where classism thrives with impunity - where poor folks turn other poor folks to maids, and poor folks driving bangers get chauffeured around by other poor folks - would have seen everything wrong with segregated doors within the same building.

Now, run along, you despicable yokelish bonobo.

Celepope:
All these Naija Pastors get level sha.@OP mind what you think about men of God and do not incur the wrath of God.My 2 kobo advice.

Ralphlauren:


Bro, let it slide please

I can see you bringing out the Malcolm X in you

Please, let it slide

SirShymexx:


Lol. Okay, I will let it go.

The whole thing is more or less like Charles Dicken's London, where classism thrived - and there was segregation everywhere.

Yes, it is profit-oriented and developers want to maximise profits. However, without these disadvantaged folks - council wouldn't grant them permission in the first place. So, it is only right you look after them as well, and treat them equally. Once you start segregating folks, then it is problematic.

New York had the same problem with developers for the gentrification going on right now out there as well. But the Mayor had to stop the madness. However, with London, Boris has be adamant and he doesn't even care. Heck, those flats are extremely expensive and most of them go for about three grand a month. So, they are making so much money off them.

naijababe:


I nor fit shout! Other than bragging rights for redeemers, I dont see what his presence has to with anything. The total ethnic vote is not even worth headache seg! Just because he is there, RCCG will become the poster church for toffs, when mAjority of attendees never get papers?
Use your know it all wisely next time mate.

RaptorX:
Cc:
Sukkot, Sir Shymmex

sukkot:
bros this is all a circus show. however the powers that be all dabble in celestial powers. all their powers to rule over the world are celestially endowed and they know things that will happen long before the masses which is why they have their little symbolic ' illuminati displays ' on oscars night or the superbowl half time show or the grammy or the brits awards etc etc. those are prophesies coded that they are giving out in those symbolic performances. they have to tip their hand before going ahead to execute. the point being they know that a shift has come. the celestial powers have spoken. the sun will be shinning south of the equator next meaning sanity and prosperity is returning to africa. so cameron is paying homage based on the celestial knowledge he is privileged to. however this is a circus act because he is paying homage to a circus act. he needs to be paying homage to the man that will lead this revolution, SAI BUHARI

naijababe:


Gotta love BUZUGEE!

@ martinosi, that is my level of political knowledge! So when are you gracing this thread with the true significance of Cameron's visit? At least someone's asked you nicely.