abouzaid:
a nuclear power plant anywhere in the north is a well planned disaster. but in Nigeria, every major work must be in the north cos they won the civil war.our current energy crisis is worsened by the location of hydroelectric projects in the north which leads to the poor supply during the long dry season there. the kaduna refinery is quoted in textbooks worldwide as an example of a plain stupid economic decision influenced solely by political consideration.

abouzaid:
prove your position with facts

gonon:


In the case of gas, under the NIPP project, the nearest power station to a major gas pipeline is 90km. That is why Prof. Nebo was shouting about vandalism, OBJ didn't plan the siting of power plants well. How can gas be in SS and you locate 3 power plants in the southwest and one in Kogi? Does that make sense? Do you know the km of pipelines that has to be laid including metering stations to reduce or sustain gas pressure to the gas turbines? Ordinary Geometric power plant in Aba has to lay 27km of pipeline alone. GEJ saw hell with the NIPP project, the guy saw that gov't couldn't sustain it hence he privatised the power sector.

For power generation through coal i know of one private company, Zuma Energy, that is currently working to achieve 1200MW. For hydro, lots of work regarding environmental, resettlement, logistics, finance and civil engineering most especially has to be done and this can take 4 - 5 years. Currently, am happy with the effort GEJ put in order to get Zungeru and Mambila of the ground but more needs to be done. Nuclear power plant is one of the most complicated plants because you major concern is safety, environmental and waste disposal.

That's why as an insider in the power sector, i laughed when Fashola said 8 months and GMB said 4 - 5 years. I don't like arguing with GMB fans because no matter how you want them to see things from your point of view they are not willing. Since GMB is a miracle worker, the part of the bible where God said "LET THERE BE LIGHT" is what am expecting from GMB and when he says this, wires and towers should appear and string themselves, gas/coal/hydro/nuclear/solar etc power plants with an ok tariff should also be in place.

Ngasky:

pls argue reasonably. Any power plant has to be close to source. It is a sheer foolishness to site gas power plant in the North currently as things are.
Likewise hydro in the SE/SS. It is not water that matters it is the velocity of flow of water. Did you know that Nigeria supplies Niger republic upto Mali with electricity? Even if we dont have we must give them. Why?
Becouse we dont want Niger rep. To build hydro on the river niger. If they build a dam that means Nigerias two baseload stations Shiroro and Kainji have to be given up becouse they cant produce electricity.
And yes nuclear plants most likely will be sited in the North due to engineering technicalities and for cooling water they have to be sited close to river niger or benue.
Maybe in the future when Nigeria started tapping oil from our part of the chad basin just like chad and niger republic are currently doing we can site gas stations in the north before then it is a folly adventure

arewafederation:


No sir, it is technically feasible and economically viable. Don't forget the APC promised 3000mw yearly.

Presently, the power stations in Nigeria have a capacity of 8000mw with some having provision for expansion. With proper maintenance, we can achieve up to 7,500mw in less than a year.
We also have the mambilla project with can generate 3000mw which I believe can be completed in two years along side other mini stations like the Kano and zamfara power station.

My friend, there are many ways we can have appreciable increase in power capacity even if not up to the proposed 20000mw, but I believe it is achievable.

abouzaid:
pls you're deviating from the issue at hand. pls tell how the narrow,sluggish and seasonal rivers in Niger state flow faster than those in the se and ss.

Ngasky:

already atleast one reactor has been working atleast for the past 8 years. If you happen to travel for 1000km in Nigeria that means you probable pass by this reactor without your knowledge. I wont tell you the exact locations but there are two reactors currently in the country (I only physically confirmed one) and also there are atleast two research reactors that are working since late 1980's. So where you aware of the risks? NO.
Nuclear power plant is the safest of all conventional power plants worldwide less than 0.5% per plant per year of operation.
What many people dont know is that every year there is about a dozen of mishaps or accidents in conventional power plants while in the last 25 years we have only 2-3 nuclear accidents and couples of small mishaps worldwide.

Volksfuhrer:
You people's expectations have been so ravaged by incompetent, vision-less leaders that you no longer believe any government can achieve any great thing within a short period!

Gleefully awaiting your disappointment at the end of GMB's 8-year rule. (Grins out of thread.)

mogentle:
When GMB achieves the promises, Barcanista et al will come out and say "Gej prepared the way". Bunch of pessimists.

TheGoodJoe:


What do you expect from people like barcanista who are used to celebrating mediocrity of GEJ.

As long as we achieve a far better life than GEJ, then Gen. Buhari is a success and our votes saved us.

Ngasky:

Good please before we proceed may i know your discipline?

ba7man:
Who's taking these TANoids serious??



If someone as dense as GEJ could scam them into believing his administration is the best thing to happen to Nigerians, do you think they have any idea what progress is??

They are just bitter English speaking dunces with smartphones.

faceURfront:


Well, the context I am looking at the discussions from is based on building brand new power plants totalling 20000MW capacity. But let's look at ur argument here, telling us APC promised 3000MW is not the issue. We all know about their promises. Wat we are evaluating is d possibility of those promises being met-in this case power. All those things u stated up there are just theories. Increasing power capacity is a deliberate and sustained effort over a period of time. 4 years is too short to get to 20,000MW assuming the high tempo we have now is sustained. 20,000MW in 4years is political talk. 10,000MW is more realistic.

ba7man:
Who's taking these TANoids serious??



If someone as dense as GEJ could scam them into believing his administration is the best thing to happen to Nigerians, do you think they have any idea what progress is??

They are just bitter English speaking dunces with smartphones.

barcanista:
I am compiling ALL his campaign promises in anticipation of his inauguration....

dearpreye:


Grow up. It takes discipline to stick to a topic of discuss.

faceURfront:


Oga wise man. How has ur ranting addressed the issue at hand? Can u see ur folly now? Oga wise man

ba7man:
I don't discuss with 2 faced people ruled by their stomachs and bitter folks.

I don't take those kind of people serious.

Ngasky:

what a shame such illiterates analysis. You dont need more than 8 power plants of just 2.5 MWatts to achieve that. And 2.5 Mw plant is not even a major big power plant.

THIS IS FEASIBLE TECHNOLOGICAL AND ECONOMICALLY

dunkem21:
^^^ ^^ obailala ..

Please don't derail this thread. I am learning from abouzaid, dearpreye and other sound minds on the issue of power generation.

Kindly go to social programme thread to look for barcanista ..

Thank you.

gonon:
I'm going to make an argument from my experience in the power sector as a Power Systems Engineer. It costs $1.5 million to generate 1MW by gas (If the pipelines and metering stations exist). For solar, it's depends on the technology involved which is far costlier than gas. For wind, it is 10 times more expensive than solar (Depending on the technology of solar). Coal is kind of cheaper than the rest. Now building a power plant above 750MW ranges from 15 months to 24 months (note this is just construction). From planning to design to logistics to financing to construction and commissioning takes 4 - 5 years except for Nuclear which can take longer than 5 years due to planning.
Secondly, the transmission capacity right now (last time I checked) is 6000MW. Distribution is a different matter entirely. My point is in order to get 20000MW to the country, we are looking in excess of $35 Billion for generation alone.

abouzaid:
10,000megawatts is feasible and if achieved is enough to get any band of illiterate thieves re-elected but at the rate things are going, any improvement in the next four years would be as a result of the completion of the power plants currently been constructed by goodluck

modupea:


Can you just for the sake of information list out those power plants being constructed and their capacity. this will enable us to know how much we will have on completion and attributes its success to GEJ.

modupea:


Can you just for the sake of information list out those power plants being constructed and their capacity. this will enable us to know how much we will have on completion and attributes its success to GEJ.

abouzaid:
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/buhari-
well-deliver-20000mw-four-years/ . i sincerely enjoy your analysis and would like to remind you of this promise by buhari that he would generate 20,000 megawatts of electricity within four years. i have don a little analysis and come to the conclusion that they would need to build atleast 30,000 new power plants within four years to achieve that which is not feasible. also remember the impossible cost implication. thanks and remain blessed

abouzaid:
http://thenationonlineng.net/new/buhari-
well-deliver-20000mw-four-years/ . i sincerely enjoy your analysis and would like to remind you of this promise by buhari that he would generate 20,000 megawatts of electricity within four years. i have don a little analysis and come to the conclusion that they would need to build atleast 30,000 new power plants within four years to achieve that which is not feasible. also remember the impossible cost implication. thanks and remain blessed

gonon:



Others are power plants that can't be connected to the grid because they are below grid capacity