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Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Ngasky(m): 9:52am On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid:pls argue reasonably. Any power plant has to be close to source. It is a sheer foolishness to site gas power plant in the North currently as things are. Likewise hydro in the SE/SS. It is not water that matters it is the velocity of flow of water. Did you know that Nigeria supplies Niger republic upto Mali with electricity? Even if we dont have we must give them. Why? Becouse we dont want Niger rep. To build hydro on the river niger. If they build a dam that means Nigerias two baseload stations Shiroro and Kainji have to be given up becouse they cant produce electricity. And yes nuclear plants most likely will be sited in the North due to engineering technicalities and for cooling water they have to be sited close to river niger or benue. Maybe in the future when Nigeria started tapping oil from our part of the chad basin just like chad and niger republic are currently doing we can site gas stations in the north before then it is a folly adventure |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by dustydee: 9:54am On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid:You made the assertion so the onus is on you to prove it and I'd counter. 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by abouzaid: 9:58am On Apr 21, 2015 |
gonon:your post is the most comprehensive and reasonable so far. I'm currently at zungeru and it pains me that president goodluck Jonathan won't be on seat when this magnificent work of his gets completed and goes into operation. obasanjo regime was the major cause of our problem today. he spent over 1 trillion dollars on electricity without anything to show for it.i don't want to even talk about his policies on steel, sea ports, cement manufacturing etc yet he turned around to work against Jonathan. that man is a curse on this nation and a known cia agent 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by abouzaid: 10:04am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Ngasky:pls you're deviating from the issue at hand. pls tell how the narrow,sluggish and seasonal rivers in Niger state flow faster than those in the se and ss. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:12am On Apr 21, 2015 |
arewafederation: Well, the context I am looking at the discussions from is based on building brand new power plants totalling 20000MW capacity. But let's look at ur argument here, telling us APC promised 3000MW is not the issue. We all know about their promises. Wat we are evaluating is d possibility of those promises being met-in this case power. All those things u stated up there are just theories. Increasing power capacity is a deliberate and sustained effort over a period of time. 4 years is too short to get to 20,000MW assuming the high tempo we have now is sustained. 20,000MW in 4years is political talk. 10,000MW is more realistic. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Ngasky(m): 10:14am On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid:Good please before we proceed may i know your discipline? |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:39am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Ngasky: You go blame us? The Three Mile Island incident and the Chernobyl are actually responsible for the palpable fear of nuclear reactors. ...plus the recent Fukushima incident. ...These incidents are VERY rare like you've correctly said but the consequences of that one-off event could last for decades, and we're talking about Nigeria where safety is still sloppy and at best reactive. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:39am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Volksfuhrer: What do you expect from people like barcanista who are used to celebrating mediocrity of GEJ. As long as we achieve a far better life than GEJ, then Gen. Buhari is a success and our votes saved us. 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by mogentle(m): 10:40am On Apr 21, 2015 |
When GMB achieves the promises, Barcanista et al will come out and say "Gej prepared the way". Bunch of pessimists. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:42am On Apr 21, 2015 |
mogentle: Quit it already. No one is a pessimist here. We are only analysing the utopic promises based on the prevailing economic realities. Who wouldn't love steady power? No sensible person will. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:44am On Apr 21, 2015 |
TheGoodJoe: Who has attacked and lampooned GEJ on NL more than barcanista? You guys need to quit the old game...... |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by abouzaid: 10:50am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Ngasky:here is supposed to be an anonymous forum. make your points with facts and leave me alone. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by ba7man(m): 10:50am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Who's taking these TANoids serious?? If someone as dense as GEJ could scam them into believing his administration is the best thing to happen to Nigerians, do you think they have any idea what progress is?? They are just bitter English speaking dunces with smartphones. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:57am On Apr 21, 2015 |
ba7man: Oga wise man. How has ur ranting addressed the issue at hand? Can u see ur folly now? Oga wise man |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by abouzaid: 10:58am On Apr 21, 2015 |
faceURfront:10,000megawatts is feasible and if achieved is enough to get any band of illiterate thieves re-elected but at the rate things are going, any improvement in the next four years would be as a result of the completion of the power plants currently been constructed by goodluck 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 10:59am On Apr 21, 2015 |
ba7man: Grow up. It takes discipline to stick to a topic of discuss. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by obailala(m): 11:01am On Apr 21, 2015 |
barcanista:Life must be very difficult for Barcanista right now... After all his laudable efforts for the APC, just when he was so close to reaping the fruits of his struggles, a last minute miscalculation landed him on the wrong side of history thereby keeping him perpetually in the opposition. While his former APC e-warriors are presently smiling and resting from their years of struggle, Barcanista presently has his head on the grindstone digging up Buhari's campaign promises to commence his opposition duties again. What a life! @Barcanista, I however admire your resilience, many would have given up (at least for a while) and gone under the radar in shame or disappointment after the outcome of March 28th. But you still have your head held high and you are pushing hard. Unlike some other GEJ/PDP supporters who have lost their minds due to the election outcome e.g. temitemi1 who now only drops the "Fayose my Hero" comments, you still come up with reasonable arguments. Finally all I can say is, "kudos to Barcanista, the perpetual opposition mercenary!" 2 Likes |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by dunkem21(m): 11:21am On Apr 21, 2015 |
^^^ ^^ obailala .. Please don't derail this thread. I am learning from abouzaid, dearpreye and other sound minds on the issue of power generation. Kindly go to social programme thread to look for barcanista .. Thank you. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by ba7man(m): 11:22am On Apr 21, 2015 |
dearpreye:I don't discuss with 2 faced people ruled by their stomachs and bitter folks. I don't take those kind of people serious. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by ba7man(m): 11:26am On Apr 21, 2015 |
faceURfront:What issue at hand can u address?? GEJ's administration was raping the nation and you were all cheering. Now GEJ's been kicked out and u wanna start discussing issues? Can you guys even define "issues"? |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 11:30am On Apr 21, 2015 |
ba7man: Obviously, a lot of people still take him serious! I do! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by bayulll01(m): 11:34am On Apr 21, 2015 |
Ngasky: Thank you jaree my bro,all we need is america should give a consent cos of the stringent law when nuclear reactor is concern,and I believe the will support us,since they know we have a competent leader,not daftt and moronic fellow,then partner with china and russia and see the impossible becomes possibility,one things about Tanoids is they want buhari to fail by all cost,so that they can self service and show their stupiidity. N.B to the tanoid the fact that Gej av made you people to loose sense of reasoning and responsibilities,he has infested cluelesssness into the brain that you people can not withstand Good things,don't worry we will surprise you all,and if he fails we will CHANGE him.but worst of Buhari will better than the best of jonadoucce |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by obailala(m): 11:47am On Apr 21, 2015 |
dunkem21:I have no intentions of derailing the thread; a second look at the thread title shows I am not really far from reality. 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 11:59am On Apr 21, 2015 |
gonon: Anietie of futo has spoken |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by modupea: 12:20pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid: Can you just for the sake of information list out those power plants being constructed and their capacity. this will enable us to know how much we will have on completion and attributes its success to GEJ. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by abouzaid: 12:45pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
modupea:pls I'm very busy now but you can get the list of ten such projects complete with their capacity and location on this newspaper page www.thisdaylive.com/articles/fg-unveils-timelines-for-completion-of-10-nipp-plants/150756/. the total number is more than the listed ten. for example, the almost 800 megawatts been constructed in zungeru by the Chinese is not listed, you can run Google searches for more large projects going on especially here in the north. |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by gonon: 12:51pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
modupea: Of the top of my head: 1) Zungeru hydro power plant = 700 MW 2) Mambila Hydro Power plant = 3050MW 3) Omoku II thermal power plant (gas) = 225MW 4) Egbema thermal power plant (gas) = 338MW 5) Ihovbor thermal power plant (gas) = 451MW (partly complete) 6) Kaduna power plant (LPFO/GAS) = 215MW (partly complete) 7) Gurara II Hydro power plant = 360MW Others are power plants that can't be connected to the grid because they are below grid capacity and are under development are: 1) Kashimbila = 40MW 2) Gurara 1 = 30MW 3) Itisi hydro power plant = 40MW |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by MyMouth(m): 12:54pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
[quote author=abouzaid post=32941327]thanks a million, i know you can be counted upon.[/quote Count on who? chei! You much be deft or you don't value ur life! How can u count on a snake? Bacanistar would sell you as soon as he gets a bidder who is ready to pay him "protection"! |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by queensmith: 12:54pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
30 000 power plants ke? how many power plants do we have here in the UK? brb 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by MyMouth(m): 1:07pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid:I have come to the conclusion that you are not only silly, you must be a brother to that lier barcanistar! For your information, Three Gorges Dam in Hubei, China, has the world's largest instantaneous generating capacity (22,500 MW), with the Itaipu Dam in Brazil/Paraguay in second place (14,000 MW). So we don't need 30,000 power plant to achieve jus 20,000MW! 2 Likes |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Krak(m): 1:27pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
abouzaid: Just like when they said the Hoover Dam could not be built. Acheivers dont care about what you think about them, they just go on and do what they see while their critics were shouting themselves hoarse. You know why? Because they see what people like you cannot see. My friend nothing is impossible. 1 Like |
Re: Barcanista, This Thread Is For Your Attention. by Nobody: 1:31pm On Apr 21, 2015 |
gonon: What do you mean by the above? |
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