cap28:

So are you saying that the land was handed over voluntarily to the white man? or was it just lying vacant with no one laying claim to it ?

cap28:

well, you will soon find out that every thing in life is a competition - especially where resources are limited.

blacks can't create their own success when they don't have any control over the means of making money - everythign in your country which generates wealth remains in the hands of the whites.

cap28:

Im glad you said "probably" because wherever the white man goes it is ALWAYS about racial competition - do you know of any nation on this earth where whites live where race is not important? Even in your country where they are the minority they have turned your country upside down by making race the determinant of success, they even went as far as legalising racial discrimination - everywhere they go on this earth they implement this same formula of racial hierarchy where they place themselves at the top and blacks at the bottom of the socio economic ladder.

cap28:

hahaha you are completely brainwashed and delusional - the biggest trick the white man ever played on the black man was to convince him to accept his lowly position in the world, i dont know how you can say what you said above with a straight face - "they owe you nothing"  - you are a joker! look at what they did to your ancestors and you say they owe you nothing, they took your own land away from you and you say they owe you nothing- they passed laws preventing your from going beyond a primary school education, they passed laws preventing you from owning land or property and being able to be self sufficient and you say they owe  you nothing - you are a joker!

they've even convinced you that you are not intellectually up to scratch and without any trace of embarrassment you actually talk about them doing all the "think work" arent you embarrassed to make such a statement?

cap28:

You say they've put south africa at a higher level compared to other african countries - but at whose expense? who is enjoying the fruits of your labour (because it was your labour that built south africa not theirs)  you or them? can't you see that you have been abused and cheated? yes, they developed the country - but only for themselves - they used your labour to develop the country which has enabled them to live like kings  while the majority black population live in townships wallowing away in poverty.

you are mistaking the few crumbs that they have allowed you to enjoy as wealth - you still depend on them for employment which means you are vulnerable to any changes that they may decide to implement.

cap28:

the reason south africa is more developed than other african countries is becasue the white settlers came there with the aim of remaining permanently unlike the other african countries where they came for one purpose alone - to ra.pe, pillage and plunder, they were not interested in settling in any west african country becasue of the hot climate  hence their decision to limit the level of development in those countries.

cap28:

You better wake up and smell the coffee and realise that south africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks.  You need to ask yourself why HIV aids is almost running at epidemic levels in all of the southern african countries that have large settlements of whites - ITS BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL OF YOU DEAD so that you will no longer be in the way of their plans.

HIV aids is a biological weapon which was created by US military intelligence in a laboratory in 1969 and it was initially used by your former apartheid govt to decimate the black population of mainly southern african countries.  Havent you noticed how HIV aids is prevalent in areas of africa with climates which are conducive to europeans?  In addition these areas are also rich in natural resources.

cap28:

You obviously know nothing about america - america is a segregated country with blacks living a separate and unequal existence from their white counterparts - dont forget blacks in america were only allowed the right to vote in 1968, black people in america live in separate neighbourhoods, attend separate schools and socialise away from white americans.  The system there (just like in  your country) was set up deliberately by the white power structure in order to keep blacks permanently in a position of subservience and that is exactly what your white minority rulers have done to you.
The so called success you brag about is not enjoyed by the majority of blacks in south africa only a few black elites enjoy this so called success.  The system was designed by and for the white racists who still control your economy and they are the ones enjoying the success not the blacks.

paniki:


Even today with a population of 50 million(40 million blacks) most of South Africa's land lays unoccupied and the majority of that vacant land is owned by the government and municipalities. South Africans are mostly centred in Cape Town, Gauteng and KZN places which were developed by whites. I doubt that there were even 3 million blacks in this country when whites arrived 300 years ago and supposedly stole the land.

Wealth is created when a person does something which another person is willing to buy. The other person can only buy if he himself has made something which another person is willing to buy. That's the barter system which was long formalised by whites into money, finances and economy. A per capita GDP of $1 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $1 000.  A per capita GDP of $55 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $55 000. That's why GDP per capita is a important statistic because it shows how productive the average single person in that country is. It's not about who owns or controls what, it's about what an individual can do which creates value

Those who have scientific knowledge will always be superior. Indians and Chinese are now becoming very scientific and their expanding presence in Africa is beginning to create the same racial tension as it has always been with whites. It's not about whites but more about who "knows". If you went to school and got taught what white people know so that you become scientifically on par with them then you wouldn't be so against them. You just pushing an inferiority complex where you unknowingly realise that white people "know" how to dominate while you remain clueless. So you blame them for being better than you and you accuse them of upgrading themselves using you and your people and at your expense and stealing your old technologies which you yourself don't know how to replicate in modern times.

This type of moaning is also done by a few uneducated black South Africans who have a warped sense of entitlement. You need to go to school and get proper knowledge so that latter on in your work life you can receive regular calls and emails from white people who ask you how something is done or what procedures to follow, that's when you will stop hating them.

Black South Africans live better lives compared to other Africans even though they are equally as poor. The development done by whites, even though it is mostly enjoyed by them, has allowed most blacks to not worry about lights going off, water quality and sanitation issues, mobility on roads rails or air, quality education and all other trickle down benefits which they don't deserve but we claim entitlement since this development is done on "our" land

Another comment that lacks thought. Since whites "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" not only South Africa but the entire continent including Nigeria it's good that our Afrikaans whites stayed behind to be accountable to those blacks who still have chips on their shoulders like JuJu unlike other whites who "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" your countries and then took a hike after being satisfied

You are showing your madness again. Your fist point is true though, South Africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks but now that blacks are enjoying this development they shouldn't be complaining but rather work towards extending the development. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. We don't want whites to give us what they have, we want to build our own. In the past blacks were forced to go shop at white malls in the white suburbs but today blacks have EXPANDED the development by sticking up lots of malls in just one township called Soweto

Your HIV/Aids argument is just plain ridiculous. There are more people living with HIV/Aids in Nigeria than SA in real numbers, yes the Nigerian percentage is small because of the big population but the real number is higher than SA so does that mean whites also want to exterminate Nigerians?

You must just accept that people always want to associate themselves with success. As much as America is divided, all of them including African Americans are proud to hold a US passport even Nigerians who land US passport have a tendency of feeling special and bragging about it because they are citizens of a successful nation. If South Africa was not achieving globally recognized success(which is intangible success) then we would be a hopelessly divided nation as I have said. And black South Africans are just like African Americans where we brag about past successes that we had nothing to do with and provided little or no contribution but it is these past successes that are making it easier for us to create successes in the present time. The majority of African Americans have a cordial working relationship with whites and that's how it is in SA. We are not best friends but we've learned to get along when working towards set goals

GOOD: Hands down, without dispute South Africa is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. Perfect weather, diverse ecology, beaches, mountains, savannahs, forest, etc.

GOOD: Good service delivery, banks, customer service, for the middle class

GOOD: Freedom of speech is No 1. In South Africa compared to other African countries.

BAD | Economic apartheid gets less press, it appears less evil. Unlike pure apartheid that was a clear evil on global display, economic apartheid continues and generates less concern because people see a Black government. And in fairness to the ANC they do more for the people than most African countries. The problem is there is a line of change they are not allowed to go beyond because of the agreement to 1st at all cost protect white wealth.

BAD DRUG USE | Alcohol abuse cost South Africa's economy R9 billion a year. According to the World Health Organization, the annual liquor consumption by South Africans amounts to 7.81 liters of pure alcohol per person. This level of consumption ranks South Africa 52nd on a list of 191 countries. Many other class A drugs are common place in even the poorest township. The rise of a drug called "sugars" is crippling communities and is used by all age groups.

BAD BRAINWASHING: Nelson Mandela is a brand by brainwashing not by merit. He was deliberately created to mirror the sacrifice of Jesus (he suffered for us) and be the icon of South Africa. It was identical what they do with pop stars and national icons. And the profits services Whites first. The merchandising of the tourist industry are all white and hence the Mandela brand is a white product.

BAD CRIME: One of the most violent and dangerous countries on the planet. Nowhere in Africa even comes close to South Africa. South Africa is described as the "Capital of Rape" due to high rates of rape in this country, although it has shown a declining trend. Poverty centers also became the center of various kinds of crime, and also the threat from armed groups. The most dangerous part here is sex, because nearly 10 million citizens suffering from HIV.

TERRIBLE CRIME | South Africa has been riddled with crime for years now and Cape Town is the most dangerous city in the country. Murder and robbery, rape and kidnappings are the biggest problems in the area, and tourists are notable targets. It has a murder rate of 62 to every 100,000 residents. But outside of the urbanization South Africa can be also very peaceful.

RAPE NO 1: Sexual offenses, robberies and burglaries have all increased in the last two years; 71,500 sexual offenses (10% rise), 13,900 robberies (41% rise) and 18,400 burglaries (27% rise).

BAD TOLERANCE: Despite Zulu (prime example) also being a settler group (through from within Africa) there is a high level of cultural intolerance in the Zulu identity. This blind intolerance expects everyone African but non-Zulu to speak Zulu. Yet this expectation is not extended to the Universities, and non-African long term settlers. Culturally exclusive and ignorant of other cultures and identities causes African unity to not have much currency in South Africa. It also explains why South Africa is a hot bed for xenophobia.

BAD: What we don't realize is Whites in South Africa make more Money outside of Apartheid than they ever did in Apartheid.

BAD: An all White lead organization called Mad with the help of DSTV is reprogramming African children to make good future puppet leadership which only knows about white handouts and will never bite the master.

GOOD: South Africa boast one of the best democracies in the world. Leaders can be peacefully removed.

GOOD: Fully developed infra-structure (services, internet, roads, banks, etc)

GOOD: Unlike the deeply colonial mentality of Kenya, South African Africans speak their languages and the majority have African names.

[b]BAD RACE MONITOR: Racism is so poorly defined it slips through all the watch dogs nets. There are so many loop holes in the law that they do little to redress imbalance. The few watch dogs are White dominated organizations created to define and police racism. It is hard to believe but there is no single authoritative body which polices and monitors racism in South Africa. While those who do reports have no power to change anything. Companies are left to police themselves (See DSTV)

BAD EQUALITY: In the "locations" aka townships the only adverts you will find are alcohol and HIV related. The bulk of the alcohol and servant role adverts uses African actors, while the bulk of other adverts still majority White.

BAD EDUCATION: Most African South Africans have no idea where South Africa is on a map. The government has done little to repair the educational dilemma caused by apartheid. Very few understand anything about apartheid and how other African nations and the world help to end apartheid.

BAD DEBATE: Some people place a taboo on discussing race, so that the person challenging racial injustices is labeled "racist." All the while the person who wants people to forget about race is busy profiting from their race based privileges. The Nelson Mandela fund is a classic example. They list all the ills of South Africa and escape the issue of racial dominance.

BAD EQUALITY: It is a society of the worst cases of minority white race privilege that are fully fledged and unchecked.

BAD DEFINITIONS: The definition of African is controlled by Whites in South Africa to exclude the Diaspora (forced out of Africa by Europeans) but is inclusive of White pro-apartheid people, the same people who took the Diaspora's ancestors out of Africa. So positions are denied to the retuning African-American communities but open to White and Indian settlers. Injustices have irony.

BAD GREED: The so-called Blacks in South Africa are ridiculously materialistic to the point of destruction. They would stupidly invest more money in a car than their own house. It is very common for them to drive the latest cars while deeply indebted to the bank and living in houses worth a 1/4 of the value of the car. All in the name of impressing their peers. They amass 4*4 while never doing off-road driving.

BAD AGENCY: Despite Whites being the minority they linguistically try to colonialize terms such as African to absorb native claim to South Africa. They remain culturally, ethnically, linguistically, genetically, biologically European. They use "African" when it suits their interest.

BAD MORALS: South Africa the biggest moral crisis in Africa (promiscuity, crime, drugs, rape). The hypocrisy is demonstrated in having a moral regeneration program while the leader Jacob Zuma is deeply immoral.

BAD MEDIA: Television is deeply racist with Africans being used primarily for buffoonery and alcoholic adverts (which constitute 80% of prime time television adverts). Any product associated privilege products; holidays, luxury, etc. exclusively White faces to market the products BAD: A high intolerance and brutal violence against poor African nationals (Xenophobia). The same nationals who hosted exiled South Africans during apartheid.

BAD ECONOMICS: 90% of South African arable land is white-owned. The government set a target of transferring 30% (i.e. 82 million hectares) to African farmers by 2014. So far, only 5% has been transferred. From the 5% of redistributed land, 90% is now unused. [/b]

BAD CORRUPTION: Transparency is better than Nigeria. But corruption is inbreed, with charity organizations such as Edmund Mhlongo exploiting the people. Watch dogs such as Natal Law Society present the illusion of policing legal firms but are a self-serving organization to give the illusion of due process. These organizations have no accountability and have no record of servicing the public interest.

BAD EQUALITY: There is a personality among the Africans of deep shortsightedness, where they are smart for pennies but stupid for dollars. Trickery at the most trivial levels is common, and causes devastation at the expense of the bigger future.

BEE: A theoretically well structured scheme which in practice produces an elite of poorly skilled poorly adept Africans (Blacks) who do little to improve quality or propagate equality. Given rise to a small economic middle class who are socially still lower class. Once these new money "Blacks" get to these higher stations they close door behind them and kick out the ladder of opportunity.

cap28:

Fine, but you still haven't answered my question - who owned the land prior to the arrival of the europeans?

Why did the europeans engage in numerous wars with your people over land?

why were your people herded onto reservations?

You say that today the govt and municipalities own this vacant land - who preceded this current govt that you have ? wasnt it  your former apartheid govt? how did they gain ownership of this land?


Whether there were 3 million or 300 million blacks in your country when whites arrived is irrelevant - the point is that there were indigenous people on this land before them AND SOMEONE FROM THIS GROUP MUST HAVE LAID CLAIM TO THIS LAND - AGAIN I ASK WHY WERE THE EUROPEANS ENGAGED IN WARS WITH YOUR PEOPLE OVER LAND?

cap28:

right, but in order to create wealth you have to have access to the means to create it don't you?

or do you create wealth out of thin air?

can you create wealth if you do not own any land, technology or natural resources?

lets use your country as an example - who owns the majority of the land in your country?

who owns the mining corporations?

who owns the technology which has enabled the creation of the goods and services?

cap28:

First of all education or knowledge is not about following and copying everythign the white man rams down your throat - education is about acquiring knowledge which will enable you as a race of people to provide for yourself and your people and survive in a cut throat competitive world. This very important fact has never occurred to you because the whole of your life you have been brought up as a slave in your own country. The white man taught you to look up to him as a God this is why he can do no wrong in your eyes.

It obviously hasnt occurred to your inferior mind that these white owned educational institutions that you glorify and worship were not designed for people like you - they were designed to mould, shape and prepare whites to rule over you - your presence in those places is a complete and utter waste of time because the knowledge you acquire there will not equip you for the life that awaits you on the outside. As a black man in a country owned and controlled by white supremacists you will not have access to the jobs or career opportunities that your white counterparts will have becase the system itself did not have you in mind when it was being created, as a result your so called knowledge and skills will become obsolete and you will end up frustrated and filled with rage because you will find that there is no place for a black man with a white western orientated education in a society run and controlled by white racists.

cap28:

hahahaha look who is talking about going to school - you need to read a book called the miseducation of the negro by carter woodson - you are a replica of the type of miseducated negro who acquires a eurocentric education which prepares him for a life of vast ignorance, subservience and uselessness. you claim to be educated but you are worse than a stark illiterate - what are you educated to do? i will tell you - you are educated to walk two steps behind baas and bow and genuflect at his feet, do you think he respects you? he just laughs at your pathetic attempt to mimic him, you are nothing more than a well trained pet dog - when baas says jump, you cry - "how high baas" - without baas you are dead. everything you think you have was given to you by baas, you have no independent ideas, no creativity, no self respect - baas manipulates and controls you like a puppet on a string and when he's done with you he will do away with you - why do you think he created the biological weapon HIV aids?

cap28:

You poor thing, baas throws you a few scraps and like the slave that you are you scrabble around on the ground fighting for them and then you have the nerve to think you are better than other africans because you are eating baas's leftover food. But to be honest with you your above statement is actually a lie - most africans do not live in segregated townships like black south africans - we dont have townships in nigeria and i know that in places like Botswana blacks enjoy a very high standard of living which is far better than what you claim you are enjoying in south africa. Besides your story about not having power cuts , bad sanitation is another blatant lie - there have been ongoing riots and demonstrations in almost all of your major townships over poor housing conditions, non existent electricity and water supply, high unemployment, poor job prospects - the list goes on so i think you are just trying to console yourself that you guys are better off when the reality is that you are actually worse off than most africans.

cap28:

Your ignorance and limited world view is a dead give away with the above statement - do you seriously think that the black south africans are in a position to hold the whites in your country to account? Hahahahaha - you really are dumb - listen you clown - the white south africans STILL CONTROL YOUR ECONOMY - YOUR BLACK ELITE TAKE ORDERS FROM THE WHITES - NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.

cap28:

hahahaha - what a clown - you really crack me up!!! what are your people enjoying? crumbs? is that your idea of enjoyment- you guy's situation is like the case of a man whose property has been stolen by armed robbers and as the robbers drive past him in his own car with all of his property, they throw him one of his old shirts and he starts jumping up and down and crying with joy that at least he's been allowed to keep one shirt out of all the other more valuable stuff that the robbers were able to make away with!!! you guys are one huge joke!!

cap28:

did you pull this information out of your a.rse cos it sounds like you just made it up? any stats to back that up?

when i talk about the HIV aids epidemic in southern africa i dont mean just south africa - i mean botswana, zimbabwe, lesotho, namibia - everywhere that you have large white settlements - no one is denying that hiv aids is present in other parts of africa but there is a reason for such a high concentration of HIV aids in the southern african countries.
And yes, the whites are intent in exterminating africans all over africa including nigeria - ever heard of AFRICOM? this is the beginning of europe and america's plan to plunger the entire continent into chaos.

paniki:

Black South Africans just like other Africans have lived on top of valuable natural resources for centuries and even millenia but even till today they don't know how to extract that resources. It took white mans knowledge to discover gold and platinum in SA just like it took white mans knowledge to discover oil in Nigeria

If you have knowledge and skills you can go anywhere in the world and succeed, that's what Jews(25% Nobel laureates) do.They are clever people who push boundaries of academia.

Me and most other black South Africans will continue to progress while you remain a bitter person who is only interested in pointing out past injustices and demands payback because he is clueless about how to create his own success. It's not white mans fault that blacks who are alive today are generally dumb and know nothing worthwhile, the good thing is that South Africa has long identified education as the main instrument to correct past and current imbalances.

You need to come live in South Africa, your misconceptions will evaporate quickly. If I were to list all that government has done and is doing for black South Africans you would be shocked and you would also wonder why ungrateful brats want more. Which country in this world can boast of having so far built over 3 million house for its poor citizens?

At least blacks are using their own initiative to create progress for themselves while you sit back and state that white man is still dominating which is true but the emphasis is on sit back

You are a delusional black person who mind is held indirectly hostage by whites. You care too much about what white people have done, are doing and will do but you have no interest in your own development . You will remain stagnant while white man continues to achieve. I feel sorry for you because a particular race has shifted your focus so that you become obsessed with them which limits you in all other fronts.

"This name Mandela is an albatross around the necks of my family. You all must realize that Mandela was not the only man who suffered. There were many others, hundreds who languished in prison and died. Many unsung and unknown heroes of the struggle, and there were others in the leadership too, like poor Steve Biko, who died of the beatings, horribly all alone. Mandela did go to prison and he went in there as a burning young revolutionary. But look what came out "
   
 
Winnie Mandela

morpheus24:

@paniki

word of advise.

you are wasting your time with Cap28. He's never been outside of his400 square foot london apartment, yet he can pretty much sum up everything about your country based on his extensive reading ability, youtube videos and his propensity to retain large amounts of "historical' information.

If I were you, I'd sign off. The boy is highly irrational and will just pull you down in the mud with his thinking.

cap28:

so because the white settlers in your country claim to have "discovered" something on another's man land (that was already there) that makes them the legitimate owners of the land?

if that is the case why didnt the people of Libya allow the americans to take over libya after a texan oil company "discovered" oil there in the 1950s?

why did Qadaffi close the american air force base in libya after he overthrew Libya's puppet king  in 1969?

why did mossadegh of iran nationalise the anglo persian oil company in 1954 and end britain's exploitation of his country's resources

why did the iranian people get rid of the shah of iran - an american puppet who was running the country on behalf of british and american oil companies?

You are extremely daft if you cant see that your country has been hijacked from you by european criminals, do  you seriously think they plan to share the wealth of south africa with blacks - you must be living on cloud cuckoo land if you beleive that. 

They have already bamboozled you into thinking that you have a stake in a country where over 80% of your own people live in destitution -  so carry on being a fool.

cap28:

No Jews are classified as white everywhere in the world and therefore are the beneficiaries of white privilege - this means that they can go anywhere in the world and enjoy great privilege and access to employment and career opportunities that you and i can only dream about   - You need to research the history of african americans and find out how  jim crow racist policies prevented them from access to education and decent employment - as a result white americans had a 400 year head start on them just the same way white south africans have a 300 year headstart on you as a result of apartheid.

it doesnt matter how intelligent you are - but if you have been denied the right to develop the necessary tools to make you self sufficient ie employment, education etc your intelligence means nothing.

cap28:

No you are the dumb fool who knows nothing worthwile and what makes matters worse is that your  low self esteem and complete lack of dignity and self respect has blinded you into thinking that you are actually in an advantageous position.

You are content with the lowly position that has been assigned to you by the very people who brutalised your fore fathers.

All you have is a job working for whites, you are simply one paycheck away from the townships - you are not in control of  your own destiny because the people doing most of the hiring and firing are the same white oppressors - how does that put you at an advantage?

The education you have been brainwashed with teaches you to be grateful to the people who are responsible for enslaving your own parents and grandparents.  Why dont you have a read through that list i posted up there - it was written by honest black south africans not delusional liars like you.  You can see from the list that all of the garbage you have been vomitting on this forum is pure fantasy.

cap28:

No YOU ARE THE DELUSIONAL ONE MY FRIEND - I LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD where i see things for what they are.  You on the other hand prefer fantasy island.  Of course i caare about what white people have done because i am living with the after effects of their criminal acts namely institutionalised racism, destruction of the economy of my country by way of the IMF and world bank and the financing and supporting of a corrupt black elite who have destroyed my country.

cap28:

The worst part of it is that europe and america STILL continue to interfere in africa's internal issues  - they continue to fund, arm and prop up criminal african dictators like Paul Kagame of Rwanda, Museveni of uganda, Ouattara of Ivory Coast, Bongo of Gabon  they even armed and funded mass murderer Charles taylor formerly of Liberia.

perhaps you were in a coma throughout NATO's destruction of Libya?

did you also miss the fact that your s.tupid president along with our own fool voted in support of the mass bombing of a sovereign country for no other reason than greed and wickedness.

did  you also miss the fact that NATO also armed and funded a group of racist arabs who massacred thousands of  black africans?

cap28:

These same criminals are currently aiding and abetting our current puppet president Goodluck Jonathan who is implementing structural adjustment policies on behalf of criminal organisations like the IMF and the world bank which have led to mass unemployment and mass poverty in my country, so i think i have a right to be angry.

morpheus24:

@paniki

word of advise.

you are wasting your time with Cap28. He's never been outside of his400 square foot london apartment, yet he can pretty much sum up everything about your country based on his extensive reading ability, youtube videos and his propensity to retain large amounts of "historical' information.

If I were you, I'd sign off. The boy is highly irrational and will just pull you down in the mud with his thinking.

RECONCILIATION WITHOUT JUSTICE

" Look at this Truth and Reconciliation charade. He should never have agreed to it. What good does the truth do? How does it help anyone to know where and how their loved ones were killed or buried? That Bishop Tutu who turned it all into a religious circus came here " - Winnie Mandela

The proceedings of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, the body charged with exposing the atrocities of the apartheid years, showed "the unwillingness of white society in general, including white politicians, business, the judiciary, the media and the church, to explain its involvement in the maintenance and perpetuation of the apartheid system".- Mary Braid 

The 16th of December is a public holiday in South Africa called Reconciliation Day, a day which honors the work of reconciliation between the conquers and the conquered. 

[b]However the average person on the street had no idea of what the day was about. It is interesting that on this day of reconciliation millions of Africans swarmed the beaches to enjoy this holiday but where were the Asians and Europeans?—no where to be found. Truth and reconciliation is one of the biggest farces put before the world. From “Red Dawn” with Hilary Swank to “In my country” with Samuel Jackson, film and politics work together to social engineer passive acceptance of this insult to human suffering. All these films display one thing, the ability to forgive and forget, to move on and allowed the Whites to keep the spoils of war. Which brings into question so-called African cinema in South Africa which is a European only domain. They write the themes and set the agendas, agenda which protect their interest for clearly Africans forgiving them is only in their interest. Europeans come from the wealthy suburbs to tell their “truth” and Africans come from the townships of poverty to listen to the “truth” without any hope of justice that is supposed to bring closure. The Europeans, not even seeking forgiveness, gets in their Mercedes Benz and drive back to their house equipped with a full range of African servants and heated swimming pool while the African walks back to their township with slung heads, empty pockets and evaporated hopes. The price for hearing the truth is everything stays the same. Denial of justice is not just an issue for South African people, as some believe but an issue for Africans globally. Because Africans didn't create the false notion of Southern Africa. Hence the blood and pain and oppression levied on South Africa are an injury on Africans across the globe. [/b]

The European voice internationally cheers the success of the “monkey courts” use to trade hundreds of years of pain for silly gestures. The tone is one of normalizing suffering across the board “we all suffered,” “let's heal as one.” It is interesting no one expects this of other communities. If the Jewish community found a 100 year old Nazi war criminal they would hunt him down and give him a full trial without an eye blink. Can you imagine the Jewish community hugging and kissing the Nazis that burnt them in ovens? Those present and not present those in the Diaspora who spoke out, so the betrayal is strongly felt not only by South Africans but by Africans globally.


Slavery for UNESCO - white. Do children of Nazi Germans head up the Jewish Holocaust memorial? Whites have inserted themselves into positions of power to control Africa. This power maybe in the form of NGOs, or in the form of Multi-national businesses and the one thing all these things have in common is they are full of White people, with a few sprinkles of brown and black

MAD - Making a New generation of African slave leaders

     
Only a fool allows his enemy to educate his children 
   
 
Malcolm X
 

They call themselves MAD (Charity). The only people that are MAD are the Africans who allow Tarzan to teach their children. Now they care so much they have created an all White company with vague agendas to re-program, pacify and carry on the work of the missionaries. Where has white help gotten Africans? A race of beggars kept just out of reach of the prize will always be begging depending needing wanting, looking to white for salvation. If all your food comes from White hands what mental impact does that have on your self-identity? Whites still see Africans as pets, a child race, which they must impress their humanity on. What does a White man know about African ambition to be such an expert on what leadership we want? What arrogance gives them this right?



Anyone with 1/2 an education will read between these White supremacist lines:

The primary goal of MAD is to identify academically talented South African learners from less fortunate backgrounds and support their education and life skills development up until the point at which they are ready to enter the job market. Such a learner will join MAD's Individual Education Programme under the guidance of the Mentorship Programme.

What is the nature of this mentorship in creating strong African centered leadership sensitive to African interest? We can already see the all white team. Is that the new future a generation of Africans who are loyal to protecting White monopolies? One thing we know about whites and skills, they never teach skills they only teach dependency.

     
The only skills whites teach Africans is dependency 
   
 
African Holocaust
 

Below is our complaint to Advertising standards and MAD

We find your DSTV advertisement of White people being shown teaching Africa's next generation as neo-colonial, arrogant and down right offensive especially in such a racialized society. Most African South Africans have been so oppressed and cut off from the rest of the world they do not even realize the deep nature of these offenses.

In post apartheid South Africa, we find your racial representations to be regressive and insensitive to the ethnic majority who are still marginalized. 78% of adverts of South African origination are still pro-white. We have seen that without exception all of your team in Africa is White. Your images show yourself to be Tarzan bringing about a new African leadership is a vulgar assault on African agency and self-determination. What kind of leadership could come from your racial in-sensitivities? Is it a leadership that services White at the expense of the African majority? Developing another generation of puppet leaders in service to Europeans?

With these white dominate adverts coupled with the very obvious economic apartheid how is your company responsible for a new South Africa? Because unless this is challenged the notion of a rainbow will remain the greatest South African Hoax. A hoax painted white, confirming the distrust between racial groups - where is your representation?

A complaint will also be lodged with the advertising standards, although we know it will fail (since they are white also) it will continue to create a public record of the racial arrogance which Africans are subjected to. Africans  post-colonialism, post-slavery, post-apartheid Africans are still victims denied their basic human rights, having to be spoken at, spoken for and by the Great White hope with his White burden.


http://www.africanholocaust.net/articles/SOUTH%20AFRICA%2010%20DAYS.htm

Voetsek:

South Africa Yearbook 2010/2011

http://www.gcis.gov.za/resource_centre/sa_info/yearbook/2010-11.htm

zolzlolz:

@Thiza, a lot of what you listed was not achieved by the current government, unfortunately. For example:
1. Singita is owned by a White man. It was established by the owner's grandfather in 1925
2. Durban being the largest port is not thanks to our government.
3. Chris Hani-Baragwanath hospital was built in 1941-by Smuts's government.
4. How many Black people own hotels or B&Bs to capitalise on the popularity in Hermanus?
5. Cape Argus Cycle Tour was started by Whites in 1978, long before black rule as with the Midmar Mile (1973). Blacks excel at running, and they win the marathons every year, but still the Comrades marathon was established by a White man-in 1921, 7 decades before black rule.
6. How many of those golfers you speak about are Blacks?
7. The SA Astronomical Obsevatory was established in 1972, long before Black rule.
8. Nuclear weapons were built under WHITE rule in the 70s, not Black rule. The reason they were dismantled was because the Apartheid government did not want the weapons to be in possession of Blacks.
9. SA Breweries is not under government control and it isn't even headed by a Black.
10. SAAF was not founded a this government, it was founded in 1920. Were Blacks even allowed to be part of an Air Force?
11. Are the greater proportion of people who are part of the processing of our minerals(engineers, scientists, researchers) Blacks?

RSA:

I can smell a racist miles away.

RSA:

@Miss Orania,basicaly what you are saying is that Blacks achieved Zol?

paniki:

, the white mans development of South Africa now allows black South Africans to live better lives and have better opportunities than most Africans

RSA:

@Miss Orania,basicaly what you are saying is that Blacks achieved Zol?

paniki:

, the white mans development of South Africa now allows black South Africans to live better lives and have better opportunities than most Africans

paniki:
them but there have been trickle down wealth benefits for blacks.

paniki:

It's oppressed people like you who want to be listen to by whites and when that doesn't happen you then throw tantrums on forums without fighting issues the way real South Africans do it: face-to-face. Anyway, why do you want white people to listen to you? Do you value them that much? You need to grow up and replace your slave mentality with something more of a progressive consciousness. Or move to Joburg where people are more liberated and actually get along. You should never use Cape Town as a barometer for SA, that city is beautiful but cliquey and mega racist(although concealed) arguably the most divided place in South Africa. I spent 2 years at UCT so I know how Cape Town is like, terrible place for a black person even whites who move there find it difficult to deal with the snobs

Also, I don't have to discuss race relations with South African whites because I have no issues with them, they are just people like me and you and I realised that a long time ago.

Wealth is created when a person does something which another person is willing to buy. The other person can only buy if he himself has made something which another person is willing to buy. That's the barter system which was long formalised by whites into money, finances and economy. A per capita GDP of $1 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $1 000. A per capita GDP of $55 000 means that the average single person in a particular country is able to work or produce things by himself which are universally considered to be valued at $55 000. That's why GDP per capita is a important statistic because it shows how productive the average single person in that country is. It's not about who owns or controls what, it's about what an individual can do which creates value.

Those who have scientific knowledge will always be superior. Indians and Chinese are now becoming very scientific and their expanding presence in Africa is beginning to create the same racial tension as it has always been with whites. It's not about whites but more about who "knows". If you went to school and got taught what white people know so that you become scientifically on par with them then you wouldn't be so against them. You just pushing an inferiority complex where you unknowingly realise that white people "know" how to dominate while you remain clueless. So you blame them for being better than you and you accuse them of upgrading themselves using you and your people and at your expense and stealing your old technologies which you yourself don't know how to replicate in modern times.

Black South Africans live better lives compared to other Africans even though they are equally as poor.

The development done by whites, even though it is mostly enjoyed by them, has allowed most blacks to not worry about lights going off, water quality and sanitation issues, mobility on roads rails or air, quality education and all other trickle down benefits which they don't deserve but we claim entitlement since this development is done on "our" land”

cap28:

the reason south africa is more developed than other african countries is becasue the white settlers came there with the aim of remaining permanently unlike the other african countries where they came for one purpose alone - to ra.pe, pillage and plunder, they were not interested in settling in any west african country becasue of the hot climate hence their decision to limit the level of development in those countries.

paniki:

Another comment that lacks thought. Since whites "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" not only South Africa but the entire continent including Nigeria it's good that our Afrikaans whites stayed behind to be accountable to those blacks who still have chips on their shoulders like JuJu unlike other whites who "ra.pe, pillage and plunder" your countries and then took a hike after being satisfied

cap28:

You better wake up and smell the coffee and realise that south africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks. You need to ask yourself why HIV aids is almost running at epidemic levels in all of the southern african countries that have large settlements of whites - ITS BECAUSE THEY WANT ALL OF YOU DEAD so that you will no longer be in the way of their plans.

HIV aids is a biological weapon which was created by US military intelligence in a laboratory in 1969 and it was initially used by your former apartheid govt to decimate the black population of mainly southern african countries. Havent you noticed how HIV aids is prevalent in areas of africa with climates which are conducive to europeans? In addition these areas are also rich in natural resources.”

You are showing your madness again. Your fist point is true though, South Africa was developed for the settlement of whites not blacks but now that blacks are enjoying this development they shouldn't be complaining but rather work towards extending the development. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE DOING. We don't want whites to give us what they have, we want to build our own. In the past blacks were forced to go shop at white malls in the white suburbs but today blacks have EXPANDED the development by sticking up lots of malls in just one township called Soweto

Your HIV/Aids argument is just plain ridiculous. There are more people living with HIV/Aids in Nigeria than SA in real numbers, yes the Nigerian percentage is small because of the big population but the real number is higher than SA so does that mean whites also want to exterminate Nigerians?”

You must just accept that people always want to associate themselves with success. As much as America is divided, all of them including African Americans are proud to hold a US passport

cap28
This is how it is going to remain because your ANC leadership sold out and they are now owned lock stock and barrell by the europeans and the americans.

Nelson Mandela is a brand by brainwashing not by merit. He was deliberately created to mirror the sacrifice of Jesus (he suffered for us) and be the icon of South Africa. It was identical what they do with pop stars and national icons. And the profits services Whites first. The merchandising of the tourist industry are all white and hence the Mandela brand is a white product.

mr balloon-head:

why were your people herded onto reservations? It's actually the Boers who were put in concentration camps by the British

right, but in order to create wealth you have to have access to the means to create it don't you? Yes but those means are intangible means such as knowledge and skills. Black South Africans just like other Africans have lived on top of valuable natural resources for centuries and even millenia but even till today they don't know how to extract that resources. It took white mans knowledge to discover gold and platinum in SA just like it took white mans knowledge to discover oil in Nigeria or do you create wealth out of thin air? If you have knowledge and skills you can go anywhere in the world and succeed, that's what Jews(25% Nobel laureates) do.They are clever people who push boundaries of academia.
can you create wealth if you do not own any land, technology or natural resources? You can have plenty of land and resources but if you don't have knowledge of how to use that land and resources then it's pointless. Blacks have always had land and resources but they have failed to create wealth. It's not white mans fault that he has knowledge and skills while you don't.
lets use your country as an example - who owns the majority of the land in your country? The government of South Africa owns the majority of the surface land of SA.
who owns the mining corporations? Whites own the mines
who owns the technology which has enabled the creation of the goods and services? Whites own those technologies and since those technologies make life easier for black South Africans compared to other Africans they therefore should not be complaining and wanting payback but rather focus on developing they own technologies while enjoying the benefits of existing technology

It's not white mans fault that blacks who are alive today are generally dumb and know nothing worthwhile

If I were to list all that government has done and is doing for black South Africans you would be shocked and you would also wonder why ungrateful brats want more.

You are a delusional black person who mind is held indirectly hostage by whites. You care too much about what white people have done, are doing and will do but you have no interest in your own development . You will remain stagnant while white man continues to achieve. I feel sorry for you because a particular race has shifted your focus so that you become obsessed with them which limits you in all other fronts.

How many times must I tell you that nobody owned land further than their eyesight in SA 350 years ago? Today with 50 million people most of South Africa's land continues to be empty state owned land, now just imagine 350 years ago with just a handful of humans how ownership would've been like. This argument that whites stole our land is complete rubbish, blacks are just using a western concept of formal ownership whereby you draw an imaginary line on a map and then claim that you own whatever is on your side of the imaginary line. Whites have colonised us so deeply that we are using their ambiguous concepts to accuse them of stealing something which didn't belong to us.”

….I know that because I am a Motswana myself,…

I would be appalled if whites prevented African Americans from building their own schools and universities to educate their own people. That didn't happen in SA, blacks had Fort Hare university which was more interested in producing historians and politicians and not interested in producing engineers and scientists. SA Indians had the university of Durban-Westville and they focused on producing scientists and engineers that's why today South Africans Indians are better off than blacks even though they also experienced Apartheid.

I don't care much what white people are doing, I'm more interested in focusing on what my people are doing to advance our country.

Shame, now whites are also in control of your emotions

Yes, I'm signing off