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Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 11:53pm On Apr 25, 2015 |
superstar1: Same way Awka-Nkakwu was changed to Awka-Etiti. Of course we can deal with that. As long as its the will of the natives and they remain proud Igbos. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 12:02am On Apr 26, 2015 |
superstar1: Lol! Did you see any "Rumu" in the Ndoki and Asa towns I posted, you can only find "Umu" there. Oguta is in Imo, there is no identity crisis there. Ikwerres identity crises is a self imposed one, they weren't conquered by any foreign group and forced to change their names, their scenario is entirely different from Ilorin, a conquered Yoruba people that are now "Fulanized" and forced under the rulership of the fulani emirate. Ikwerres have Ezes, Ilorin have an Emir not an Oba, spot the difference. Our property was hijacked in PH, but they were always burnt down in the North too. Every Igboman knows the risk of investing in foreign lands. 1 Like |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 12:13am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: Story for the gods, part 4. It was never the will of the people. 1 Like |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Nobody: 12:20am On Apr 26, 2015 |
Duru1: It is only a fool who'll think population doesn't play an important role in state creation any where in the world. There are other factors as well, even at that, there are many segments of the North that fulfill those criteria more than your tiny region. Yet, they aint whining. The fact that the mechanics of democracy was not fully implemented, is what propels your false sense of entitlement and your Oliver Twist mentality. If anything, you have those so-called soldiers from the northern region to thank for, because they did not do justice to their region when they carved up states in the 6 geopolitical zones, in equal proportion. There are many who are more deserving of a state in the north by all ramification, but were turned down by same "northern soldiers". They know if such is granted, every geopolitical zone would demand equal proportion as well. And soon every local govt in little region of SE would become a "state". So you see, the military did trample on the right of many in the north to have their states, just to maintain a sense of balance in the geopolitical zones. If they had created states based on those who are more deserving, we wont be talking of 19 states against your 5, but 30+ against 6( plus your Anioma). Please, go ahead and deal with your false sense of entitlement at your own peril. The outcome wont be any different from the last time you tried. 3 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 12:21am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: I repeat, recover your houses, streets and towns before you can talk of Ilorin, where we hold the political power. Ilorin was not changed, unlike Obigbo to OYIGBO.lol. 2 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Remarkable: 2:37am On Apr 26, 2015 |
it was like a stab in the chest for them.i don't blame them for the revenge coup... what I shudder at is when you begin killing women and defenceless civilians on the street, neighbors, co-workers etc... I mean, come on... but then again, we live and learn. Equalizer: |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Remarkable: 3:11am On Apr 26, 2015 |
arewafederation: T. Balewa also had knowledge of the coup. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Remarkable: 3:17am On Apr 26, 2015 |
Super1Star: Are you aware of a coup that was being planned by a group of norther soldiers around the same time the touted Igbo coup happened? Go look it up and come back with your report. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Remarkable: 4:07am On Apr 26, 2015 |
Rotimi47: How did Hillary Njoku escape? If he could what makes you think that if a few people decided to give cover to Ironsi that he couldn't have come outta there alive? |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by wadetaw202: 6:42am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: You are very funny sha! So, imprisonment is equal to murder?! Sir, thou art pathetic! And for your info, ironsi never imprisoned no body. The northerners asked him to reprimand the coup plotters; he only promised without fulfilling. Someone killed my father and you want me to be happy that the person only got some reversible jail term? 5 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by umar745(m): 7:01am On Apr 26, 2015 |
Duru1:so major Nzeogwu killed Ahmadu Bello, his wife and guards. While Major Okafor killed Tafawa Balewa and Samuel Akintola and yet you say Ironsi can not execute them cos the executing them will be unwarranted. You must have noodles as brains. PS: The authors of those books where both liutenant colonels in the nigerian army b4 defecting to biafra where they led the war as generals. 4 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 7:29am On Apr 26, 2015 |
superstar1: Nothing stops the town from going back to Obigbo, as they are fully in charge of their destiny now, but they simply don't care anymore. So, I say it's the will of the people. Ilorin is no longer under the control of Yorubas, the Fulanis are now in control, how exactly you see that as the same scenario as that of Oyigbo is exactly beyond me. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by tuk2ato(m): 7:55am On Apr 26, 2015 |
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Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 8:11am On Apr 26, 2015 |
wadetaw202: What are you talking about? Nzeogwu and other coup plotters were imprisoned by Ironsi, they were only later released by Ojukwu in Biafra following Ironsi's death. http://www.gamji.com/article8000/NEWS8721.htm 1 Like |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 8:43am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: I laff in mandarin. As if olusola, bukola sarakis, simeon Ajibola and Ahmed the present governor are from fouta djallon. However,read up on the ijaw man Melford Okilo that changed the name of your streets and towns. David Mark was the chairman of the committee on abandoned property, what have you done to him? Instead, you were all busy licking the a55 of an ijaw man, in a sycophantic manner, that was obvious to the born blind at birth that the guy was a monumental failure. I repeat. Go to Rivers State, reclaim your properties, renamed streets and towns first, before you can talk of Ilorin. 5 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 8:59am On Apr 26, 2015 |
superstar1: Okilo is long gone but the people have grown comfortable with the New name, so are not in any rush to change it! Abandoned property? That's old news, Ndiigbo have moved forward and now even owe more property than they had in the past. David Mark and his people will give a limb to be where Ndiigbo are today. GEJ is an Ogbia man. Those of us in the East know the difference. He wasn't half as bad and incompetent as the Ugly Yoruba president of Ota farm, yet Yorubas supported his 2nd tenure bid. Don't think you deceive anybody with your " we vote for performance" mantra! The Ikwerres can rename their streets to anything they want, it's their land, Constantinople was changed to Istanbul by the native turks, London(Londinium) was named so by the Romans, nothing is new in renaming of cities, towns and streets. What matters is who is in control at the moment. The Ezes are in control of all the Ndoki and Asa towns in Oyigbo LGAs, the Emir is in control of Ilorin, if adopting a Yoruba name makes you happy to be conquered and ruled by foreigners, no problem, as long as peace reigns in the Emirates kingdom of Ilorin. *grins* |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 10:02am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: See ranting. So is Emirship not a religious title? Who are the people that dominates Ilorin? Muslims of course. If there are comfortable with their religious title of Emirship, whose business is that. When Boko Haram captured towns, they renamed eg Minimah's town was renamed as the Town of Mohammed. Did you see anybody renaming Ilorin? Naaaaaaa Was Obigbo renamed by minorities. Yes, Obigbo was turned to Oyigbo. Were your streets renamed by minorities? Yes, U must were turned to Rumus. Were you chased out of your houses like goats and your properties declared abandoned and hijacked? Yes. What have you done about all these? Deal with that first before coming to a religious title of Emirship of Ilorin. 3 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 10:28am On Apr 26, 2015 |
superstar1: Ilorin is not Yorubaland. There is no Oba of Ilorin, Emir to the North is more than just a religious leader. Religion and tradition in the Fulanis are one. Is there any title like Oba of Ilorin? No. Why? Because religion and tradition are one to the Fulanis. Was Ilorin conquered and subjected under the fulani rulers? Yes! Was the lazy Yorubas able to win back Ilorin? No. Do the Fulanis care about the name of Ilorin? No. They only care about ruling it, and claiming it as theirs, the name of the town is insignificant. Did the Yoruba phantom diplomacy help them to retake the political control of Ilorin? No! Thanks. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 10:35am On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza:.. Fulanis have the religious title and we have the political power and we are OK with that. The name of the town was never changed -- Ilorin. Say same for Obigbo and the Umus and let me give you dirty slap with my backhand. Renaming your town was a total obliteration of your ancestral input into such town. Sincerely, your ancestors ought to have risen up and give you guys dirty slap for allowing such to happen. When will you reclaim your forefathers houses streets and towns? That is a major slap.on your face from a minority group. Deal with that first and come back over Ilorin. Just keep serving your lord and master, the ijaw people and forever keep quiet in your servitude to them. 5 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 10:47am On Apr 26, 2015 |
superstar1: Problem is that you speak on matters you know little about. The "Rumu" are Ikwerres self imposed identity crisis, nobody forced them, and they reserve the exclusive rights to rename their towns as they please. There are no "Rumu" madness anywhere else except in Ikwerrelands, even the Ogbas, Ekpeye, Etches still use "Umu". Who gave you the political power in Ilorin? Haha! Does the Sarakis see themselves as Yorubas or as Fulanis with Yoruba maternal influence? Here is Sarakis speaking of their Mali fulani ancestry https://www.nairaland.com/311148/saraki-fulani-mali *grins*. They conquered your lands, installed their rulers and convert your women to baby making factories in other to assimiliate, and you think you have political control? Haha! So much for your diplomacy. The property and houses have been re bought with money, money answereth all things you know? Haha! so when are you going to have an Oba of Ilorin? How can we be under the servitude of Ijaws,is PH under the control of Ijaws as we speak? Does the Ijaw have traditional / political control of any Igbo town? |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Aseneshii: 11:31am On Apr 26, 2015 |
The same way you refuse to forgive the north for the past 49 years .. That makes you the same . Equalizer: 1 Like |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by superstar1(m): 12:09pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: See another lengthy story for the gods. Try harder with your Once Upon a time story. So the maternal side of the Sarakis was so strong that they are bearing Saraki, they are bearing Olusola, they are bearing Bukola etc. Then, there paternal side must be useless. Your stupidity seems to know no bounds. Do you think there is any true igboman walking the surface of the earth, taking into cognisance the impact of the hausas forceful carnal knowledge of your mothers and daughters, during the war. Majority of you are carrying mallo-genes, deal with that. However, you have not explained how an Ijawman changed an Igbo town's name from Obigbo to Oyigbo till this day, without any remedy to it. Like I told you, that singular act obliterated your ancestors from the town of Oyigbo. You are under the servitude of an Ijawman. It is a known fact in this country and we all saw how your pathetic blind tribalistic and sycophantic politics played out, just because of one adopted name of "Ebele". Really su.cks to be this people. Wallahi. 3 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by clemzo101(m): 12:10pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
I love dis onatisi: |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by wadetaw202: 1:41pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza: And that sounded like justice to you? Why were they not put in northern prison? Why were they taken to southeast to serve jail term? It only means the so called "imprisonment" is mere coverup. 2 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Ayus34(m): 2:08pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Equalizer:I believe u know AWO was in prison and ironsi refused to release him.....but thank God,his fate kept and protect him in prison for evil days,while his enemies killed themselves before Gowon regime later released him! 1 Like |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by onuwaje(m): 2:11pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
Ok I have seen different accounts concerning the 1966 coup (be it igbo coup or coup of the majors).. here's my contribution who re we to blame? Let's start with our colonial masters. in my own opinion they r d primary cause of the problems we have as nigerians today.. problems ranging from nepotism etc. The idea of joining the northern and soutern protectorates to me was a wrong move because 1. These 2 protectorates were cut out between religious lines 2. By now it would have been better to have 2 separate entities to save us the stress of regionalism we r having today 3.by favouring the northerners due to their loyalty as a result of the indirect rule in a country where d number of ethnic tribes r so many and probably have been fighting each oda for years was also a wrong move. This leaves me to blame the next set of people the northerners Having enjoyed lots of privilege from d whites in the sense of federalism and oneness. The 'born' to rule attitude shudnt have come to place. And even senr statements of the north like 'ahmadu bello' whose disdain for his country men from d east at that tym was appalling the coup plotters Though corruption was vast during that period. Killing of all prominent politicians instead of detaining dem to me was d flop that led to this This is my opinion.. I stand to b corrected not insulted |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by tubolancer(m): 2:15pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
All I will say concerning all these argument, is for every tribes to be wise. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 2:31pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza:Don't twist history. The coupists were not jailed, but detained. This could have been planned because according to Ojukwu, "When I was announced as the Governor of the Eastern Region, I started working secretly to get all the detainees transferred to the east." (Because I Am Involved, page 156). 2 Likes |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 3:26pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: The same way Eastern leaders worked for Awo to be jailed in the East instead of the North. The coupist were all in prison, pending investigations, whether you want to use the word detained or jailed is a matter of semantics. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by OrlandoOwoh(m): 3:28pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
pazienza:You have no point. |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by pazienza(m): 3:29pm On Apr 26, 2015 |
OrlandoOwoh: Right! *grins* |
Re: See How Aguiyi Ironsi Was Murdered In Cold Blood. (viewers Discretion Advised). by Macelliot(m): 10:31am On Jul 07, 2015 |
God have Mercy. |
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