wadetaw202:


The coup was not plotted by Igbo according to you, but an igboman, ironsi, was the beneficiary; except if ironsi too was not an igboman. Ironsi became the grand commander but refused to punish all the coup plotters and you expect the angry party to be looking on like lucozade?

Only Ironsi knew why he refused to kill the coup plotters, cos I remember that they were all punished by being jailed, though I assume that wasn't enough punishment for you guys. You were always fishing for non existing evidence of Igbo coup, so every little detail became twisted as an evidence.

Ironsi never had an Igbo union meeting with Ndiigbo where it was decided that the coup plotters should be spared, if you had evidence of such a tribal meeting, provide it here. Ironsi was acting out of his own free will, he wouldn't even take Ojukwu's advice. Ironsi wasn't a democratically elected person, he represented no one but himself and his own whims and caprices.

tucky200:

Wonder where u getting this ur sh*t story 4rm. U just try to cover up 4 chukwuma nziogwu who started d war on northerners....ojukwu had international support ...

See ignorance. Ojukwu didn't have international support. The closest thing to international support Biafra received was when Gabon and Tanzania officially recignized Biafra as a country. And also when France stated their sympathy, although france did not recognise Biafra.

It was Nigeria that had all the help. Go and do your homework well. The British and Russians provided Jets and bombers and pilots to Nigeria. Before the war, the Nigerian airforce had less than 10 planes, but due to foreign aid and such that number grew significantly.

SopranoCoder:


See ignorance. Ojukwu didn't have international support. The closest thing to international support Biafra received was when Gabon and Tanzania officially recignized Biafra as a country. And also when France stated their sympathy, although france did not recognise Biafra.

It was Nigeria that had all the help. Go and do your homework well. The British and Russians provided Jets and bombers and pilots to Nigeria. Before the war, the Nigerian airforce had less than 10 planes, but due to foreign aid and such that number grew significantly.

Ojukwu had support from france and spain also..he had more support than nigeria..goan check on wikipaedia or google it

The summary of this great discourse is that we have nothing like one Nigeria.. We all are just deceiving ourselves.. The earlier we realize this the better for us... Hatred is all I see here.. Nothing like unity at all....

SopranoCoder:


See ignorance. Ojukwu didn't have international support. The closest thing to international support Biafra received was when Gabon and Tanzania officially recignized Biafra as a country. And also when France stated their sympathy, although france did not recognise Biafra.

It was Nigeria that had all the help. Go and do your homework well. The British and Russians provided Jets and bombers and pilots to Nigeria. Before the war, the Nigerian airforce had less than 10 planes, but due to foreign aid and such that number grew significantly.

Are you well at all?

Equalizer:

Am sure till date, the north are yet to forgive the Igbos for what Kaduna chukwuma Nzengwo did to their great men..

please is Nzeogwu and Igbo man?
Am asking this question because Igbos in South South said they are not Igbos. They claim histories their masters wrote for them. And pass it down to their brainless children.

Major Nzeogwu a man from mid-western Nigeria (Today Delta state in South South of Nigeria) committed offence and Igbos from Eastern Nigeria (today‘s south east) are the ones paying for it.

Aguyi Ironsi is from Imo State (south eastern nigeria) he died because of foo.lish ambition of some soldeirs of the mid western extraction (south south).

Until all the igbos in Nigeria unite as one to fight their enemies things might never work out for all of us in this country.

The foolishness of the whole thing is that the igbos in DELTA, RIVERS & BENUE have been so brainwashed by their yoruba & hausa/fulani masters to believe that they are minority group in Nigeria. While the minority tribes in the north are all officially claiming to be hausa/fulani. They just want make sure that these igbos that live outside south east never come to terms with their really history.

They keep telling them that they are from Bini. It is funny how these people believ these things. Your ancestors are from bini but your dialect, your name & even culture are do not look like that of the binis. Your name & culture sound & look more like the people you claim that are your enemies.

You run into the arm of your enemies & they keep making you see how little you are. You shout haliluya because you are proud minority.

Listen to me; “it is better to beenvied than to be pitied“

Shame on all of you.

tucky200:

Have you forgotten it was the igbos that started the war

No it was not the igbos rather the hausas when they decided to run Nigeria like their father's kitchen, when even an emir is greater than the president.

umar745:


I was going to insult you but then I'll reduce myself to your level. You'll never have biafra, and we and the yorubas will have dominion over you FOREVER.

point of correction nobody have dominion over igbos apart from God that is why we excel in any circumstance, but you yorubas are slaves to vagabonds, just look at the Yoruba society today you will see that the vagabond life is rubbing off on them you,will see a yoruba man marry more than 3 wifes with nothing to train the children, making the children touts, while the girls will get pregnant at home increasing the population beyond redemption, and the wifes will be giving birth from one family to another, if care is not taken you a child from a broken family or you don't even know your father or mother, or your mother may be the third or forth wife, the almajiris in yoruba land is increasing and very soon it will become a problem like the north. And in the North that is the confirm vagabond location, where everyone live like Animals. And Animals don't have dominion over Human.

SopranoCoder:


1. The fact that there was even one person aming the plotters that was not Igbo invalidates the title "Igbo coup". And Nigeria has had more than five coups, each time a group of Hausas overthrowing the leader and putting another Hausa in power. Why isn't Nigeria complaining about the "Hausa coups" that have crippled Nigeria more than ever and produced some of our historically worst governments? Why are you choosing to remember only the "Igbo coup". See what I mean? Just hate.

2. I said in my post that the plotters in the South didn't do their part. Only Nzeogwu did. And the Igbo leader that was killed was not as a result of personal vendetta.

3. You are very wrong to say Ironsi was the beneficiary of the coup. Ironsi was the one that organised soldiers and crushed the Coup. A lot more politicians would have died if Ironsi (Igbo man) didn't stop the coup and imprison the plotters.

4. The coup plotters were not partying in the East, as you claim. they were in prison the whole time. It was only when the war started that Ojukwu freed some, but these ones were subsequently executed. Go and read Achebe's "There was a country"

5. So you are saying that because the Igbo people were singing songs it is justified for 50,000 of them to be killed? are you a human being?
When Igbos were expelled from Lagos in 1967 the Yoruba's were singing in the Motor parks as the Igbos were departing "You people should go. Garri will become cheaper". (My mother was 12 at the time, and she clearly remembers)

Your half smart. The original sin is the Igbo coup. Subsequent ones are a fallout of the short-sightedness of the 1966 coup.

Super1Star:


As for me the following were achieved with this thread:

1. The disproving of the "We are being persecuted unjustly mentality of igbos"

2. The disproving of "we had money in the bank and we were paid 20pounds lies of the igbos"

3. The disproving of the "indigensation policy was targeted at us lies of the Igbos".

We desire our Odua State but we know the reality and truth of how difficult it is to realise, without starting first with regionalism. That is why we have always been the main canvassers for regionalism system of governance, that SE and SS are just clamouring for. With that, you can easily have your resource control and tend towards nationhood gradually, rather than out rightly asking for a nationhood that will be antagonised at all diplomatic channels.

It would have been nice if your diplomacy was able to get get back your forefathers houses, streets and even towns (eg Oyigbo) that were declared abandoned, hijacked and renamed in Rivers State. Lmao.

To be candid and objective the only parasitic region within Nigeria is SE. NW NE and NC offers Nigeria food and offering of their lives to defend the integrity and sovereignty of.our nation.through the various forces that they dominate, SW human capacity income from taxes and duties, conducive business environment, as well as oil, while SS has oil.

What is SE offering? OK your 2by2 inches trading shops constituting nuisance and eye sore to other regions? It is obvious you depend on others and others do not depend upon you. How many people do you see coming to SE to buy things to sell in their region? That says it all about the parasitism of some people.

Kindly expedite action on your Biafra or Beeafran mirage.

Just noticed the Oyigbo part of your post.

For all its worth, Oyigbo remains an Igbo territory, they are officially recognised as Igbos by the Rivers state government.

No Igbo man lost any property in Obigbo, as the indigenous tribes of Obigbo are the Asa and Ndoki people. Ndoki people are the Indigenous Igbo tribe also found in Ukwa East LGA of Abia statewhere the majority of the Ndoki tribe are found.

The Asa's are also mainly indigenous to Ukwa West LGA of Abia state, they spilled over into Oyigbo LGA of Rivers which they share with Ndokis too.

The kings of Ndoki and Asa towns in Oyigbo LGA like those in Ukwa East and West of Abia state are indigenous kings known as "Ezes", not Emirs.


The losers in the Abandoned property saga are the Ikwerres, they now have to share PH with the Ijaws, thanks to abandoned property. That's their problem, not the Igbo mans problem. No part of Igboland had ever been lost to a foreign force, never!

pazienza:



Just noticed the Oyigbo part of your post.

For all its worth, Oyigbo remains an Igbo territory, they are officially recognised as Igbos by the Rivers state government.

No Igbo man lost any property in Obigbo, as the indigenous tribes of Obigbo are the Asa and Ndoki people. Ndoki people are the Indigenous Igbo tribe also found in Ukwa East LGA of Abia statewhere the majority of the Ndoki tribe are found.

The Asa's are also mainly indigenous to Ukwa West LGA of Abia state, they spilled over into Oyigbo LGA of Rivers which they share with Ndokis too.

The kings of Ndoki and Asa towns in Oyigbo LGA like those in Ukwa East and West of Abia state are indigenous kings known as "Ezes", not Emirs.


The losers in the Abandoned property saga are the Ikwerres, they now have to share PH with the Ijaws, thanks to abandoned property. That's their problem, not the Igbo mans problem. No part of Igboland had ever been lost to a foreign force, never!

Story for the gods.


Y was obigbo changed to oyigbo, just like all umus to rumus? They have Ezes and the name of their ancestors towns were being changed and they were looking like lookman. Says it all.

So if it is ikwerres loss, why do igbos always cry and whine about their fathom properties that were hijacked. That means, you never had any property, you were just trying to be dubious.

You and I know better. Struggle to collect your houses streets and towns back , that were declared abandoned and hijacked, before you can talk of Ilorin.

Equalizer:

Let me lecture you a bit my history teacher.. In military, there's nothing like igbo ,yuroba or Hausa. what we have is Nigeria soldiers.. What happened in 1966 was just a military coup but your brothers took it personal cos Azikiwe narrowly escaped it.. Stop being bitter and live with it.. We always need to revisit some old historic events so as to know whom to trust... Arewas doesn't believe in the word forgiveness...

And the killing of Ironsi, was that not a military coup, why are you whining then? Your hypocrisy is ludicrous.

pazienza:
Notice there was no instance in the story where Fajuiyi was killed because he was begging for Ironsi' s life.

Yorubas had used their control of the media in the 60's and 70's to fabricate a story of Fajuiyi begging for Ironsi's life. They have also done all they could to promote Igbophobia by presenting the Jan coup as an Igbo coup, their lies and sins against the Igbo nation are indeed heavy.

Fajuiyi was implicated in the Jan coup, the Northerners already marked him for death in the counter coup, but to maintain the Igbo coup story, the Yoruba media propaganda cannot report Fajuiyi implication in the Jan coup, it will ruin their " Igbo coup" script, they were already struggling on how to exonerate Ademoyega and Kpera, they just had to concoct a story of an altruistic and Jesusesque Fajuiyi, who gave up his life to protect an already condemned Ironsi. It was a tough sell, but for an Igbophobic country, anything negative attached to Ndiigbo is usually swallowed hook, line and sinker.

Please Stop this misinformation. BELLO was the last man standing at that gory scene and the truth he sworn to is Fajuyi pleaded for Ironsi's life to be spared but I guess the soldiers did not want a repeat of the mistake made during January coup they refused to accept his plea despite that he volunteered to be killed alongside with IRONSI. Only God knows why Fajuyi opted to die for IRONSI but the assumption was may be the soldiers would spare them but I guess he assumed wrongly. But the fact remains Captain Andrew never witnessed the exact gory scene he only heard the shots that killed Fajuyi and IRONSI. Fajuyi was killed first before IRONSI probably the shot that Captain heard was meant for IRONSI but it actually killed Fajuyi for begging for Ironsi's life before they finally executed IRONSI. People should not come and rewrite history and distort information to suit themselves when in actual sense they did not behave like gallant soldiers that die for and with their superiors. And please cowards should stop calling themselves ADCs .

superstar1:


Story for the gods.


Y was obigbo changed to oyigbo, just like all umus to rumus? They have Ezes and the name of their ancestors towns were being changed and they were looking like lookman. Says it all.

So if it is ikwerres loss, why do igbos always cry and whine about their fathom properties that were hijacked. That means, you never had any property, you were just trying to be dubious.

You and I know better. Struggle to collect your houses streets and towns back , that were declared abandoned and hijacked, before you can talk of Ilorin.

Oyigbo is the name of the Local government,the Ndoki towns and Asa towns in the LGA retains their names as has always been. Their towns names were never changed.

To us, the loss of our property in PH was temporary, we had since bought other lands in PH, for the Ikwerres, the loss is permanent, they must now share PH with Ijaws.

Read the ending part of this article, to understand more about the Abandoned property saga if you are indeed interested in learning the truth. http://www.elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/16602-ikwerre-is-igbo

Below is the list of the towns in Oyigbo LGA. Like I said, no "Rumu" rubbish", they are as Igbotic as they come.

1 . Asa
2 . Komkom
3 . Obeama
4 . Oyigbo
5. Afa Uku
6. Afam
7. Afam Nta
8. Azusogu
9. Egberu
10. Mgboji
11. Mrihu
12. Obeakpu
13. Obeta
14 Obumku
15 . Okoloma
16. Okponta
17 . Umuagbai
18. Umuosi

umar745:


No he was killed because there was a coup. A coup not because his tribes men killed northerners but because of his indecisiveness because he was shielding Nzeogwu and Okafor from been punished for their crimes
and haven read the attached books I'm telling you that even the Igbo Author knew all Ironsi had to do was execute Major Okafor and Nzeogwu. Which is not an outrageous demand.
Now for you to think one region can single handedly carry out coup against the whole country is just laughable.

See ehn you pple should just stop shifting blames abeg enlighten yourself

The writer of the above crap is one of the major reasons Nigeria will continue to remain under develop. Ironsi cannot just execute coup plotters when such action was not warranted in the constitution or even in the army code of conduct. Ironsi constitute an armed forces panel that included acting IGP to investigate issues about the coup including anybody who was not arrested.

arewafederation:


No my friend, there was no ethnic division in the millitary until the Ibos strucked, killing all senior officers, and top politicians from the north. Stop trying to twist the dacts.

How did Azikwe "narrowly" escape the coup?

Abeg, let's not start something that will lead us nowhere. Your ibo soldiers fuvcked up and the ibo race faced the consequences. Finito!

Forget the past and move ahead since you have a forgiving spirit!

There were huge ethnic divisions in Nigerian army which was perpetrated especially by characters such as Ahmadu Bello,Tafawa Balewa, Tanko Galadima and Inuwa Wada.

kennylawd:


Please Stop this misinformation. BELLO was the last man standing at that gory scene and the truth he sworn to is Fajuyi pleaded for Ironsi's life to be spared but I guess the soldiers did not want a repeat of the mistake made during January coup they refused to accept his plea despite that he volunteered to be killed alongside with IRONSI. Only God knows why Fajuyi opted to die for IRONSI but the assumption was may be the soldiers would spare them but I guess he assumed wrongly. But the fact remains Captain Andrew never witnessed the exact gory scene he only heard the shots that killed Fajuyi and IRONSI. Fajuyi was killed first before IRONSI probably the shot that Captain heard was meant for IRONSI but it actually killed Fajuyi for begging for Ironsi's life before they finally executed IRONSI. People should not come and rewrite history and distort information to suit themselves when in actual sense they did not behave like gallant soldiers that die for and with their superiors. And please cowards should stop calling themselves ADCs .

Right! Fajuiyi the Yoruba Jesus that chose to die with Ironsi, you lots case is a case of pseudologia fantastica, you have some much lied to yourselves that you now believe your lies!

Are you even listening to yourselves?

Super1Star:



You expect the families of the dead Nigerian soldiers to also forgive Igbos for the death of their fathers, sons, breadwinners etc?

Did Igbo precipitate any war against Nigeria? I guess you had expected Ndiigbo to behave like the Yoruba who would rather shake than fight.

pazienza:


Right! Fajuiyi the Yoruba Jesus that chose to die with Ironsi, you lots case is a case of pseudologia fantastica, you have some much lied to yourselves that you now believe your lies!

Are you even listening to yourselves?

Bros those people are phony.

Duru1:


There were huge ethnic divisions in Nigerian army which was perpetrated especially by characters such as Ahmadu Bello,Tafawa Balewa, Tanko Galadima and Inuwa Wada.

since u accept that there is division, can we now say it is an igbo coup

haywire07:
Bro, am Yoruba in fact from ile- ife bt regarding hausas as vagabonds is gross . Ur post is similar to that of PEJ who said to the hausas that ''we have nothing to do with the pple from that side'' only if she wz sensible enoff to realise that the hausas are the most populated and has a whooping 19 states out of 36 .

You have the audacity to write that Hausa have 19 states out 36 in Nigeria yet you talk about democracy in Nigeria.

pazienza:


Oyigbo is the name of the Local government,the Ndoki towns and Asa towns in the LGA retains their names as has always been. Their towns names were never changed.

To us, the loss of our property in PH was temporary, we had since bought other lands in PH, for the Ikwerres, the loss is permanent, they must now share PH with Ijaws.

Read the ending part of this article, to understand more about the Abandoned property saga if you are indeed interested in learning the truth. http://www.elombah.com/index.php/special-reports/16602-ikwerre-is-igbo

Story for the gods, part 2.

Obigbo was changed to Oyigbo. Simple as ABC.

Your houses, streets and towns were hijacked. Deal with it. That is a known fact to.all.

You cannot re-write history.

tucky200:

Ojukwu had support from france and spain also..he had more support than nigeria..goan check on wikipaedia or google it

You are one deluded fellow. A junkie such as you could have written the crap you informed that could be found on wikipaedia or google

Duru1:



Did Igbo precipitate any war against Nigeria? I guess you had expected Ndiigbo to behave like the Yoruba who would rather shake than fight.

Revisionist Dede1, you are too late to the party.

Yeah you were chest beating until 3million of your children n women alone, minus the men, we're offered for fun to Amadioha.

gwales:
since u accept that there is division, can we now say it is an igbo coup

You are free to assume whatever crap that tinkles your fancy. Ndiigbo did not have a separate army in Nigeria yet some deluded maggots still refer to January 15, 1966 coup in Nigeria as Igbo because the idiotic BBC said so. There have been many subsequent coups in Nigeria yet none of the coups has been named after any ethnic group. Ndiigbo knew the ulterior motives of British government and its agent named BBC in Nigeria during the 60s.

superstar1:


Story for the gods, part 2.

Obigbo was changed to Oyigbo. Simple as ABC.

Your houses, streets and towns were hijacked. Deal with it. That is a known fact to.all.

You cannot re-write history.

Whether Oyigbo or Obigbo, the town, it's people her King remain Igbo. There is still Igbo there, whether Obi or Oyi, it's still Igbo. And as you saw from the list of towns, Oyigbo is but one out of 14 Igbo towns that make up Oyigbo LGA.

Duru1:


You have the audacity to write that Hausa have 19 states out 36 in Nigeria yet you talk about democracy in Nigeria.

Democracy is a game of numbers, deal with it. One or two out of those 19 states, is/are the size and population of the whole 5 SE states put together. If anything the "hausas" deserve more states. So my friend, others do have sense of entitlement too, yet they aint complaining.

pazienza:


Whether Oyigbo or Obigbo, the town, it's people her King remain Igbo. There is still Igbo there, whether Obi or Oyi, it's still Igbo. And as you saw from the list of towns, Oyigbo is but one out of 14 Igbo towns that make up Oyigbo LGA.

You are not even ashamed, they changed the name your ancestors gave a town and you are here justifying it.

Pleaseeeeee, park well.

I repeat, win back your streets, houses and towns hijacked, before you can have enough mouth to talk about Ilorin.

Unfortunately your houses and streets were hijacked and the name of your towns were changed by minorities.

You will keep whining about the hijacked properties, till Jesus Xt will come.

superstar1:


You are not even ashamed, they changed the name your ancestors gave a town and you are here justifying it.

Pleaseeeeee, park well.

Who are they? The town people decided to change the name of their town for reasons best known to them, the rest of the towns in the LGA decided to keep theirs, what's the big deal? Name changes are the norm in modern Igbo land.

Awka etiti was Originally Awka- nkagwu, Abatete was originally Olokwu, Umuchukwu was previously Nkerehi, etc. People change their towns name in Igboland for whatever sentimental reason.

As long as Asa people are not about breaking away from the Igbo nation to form Asa ethnic nationality, they can give their town anything they like, no one cares, it's their right.

Moreover, Oyigbo and Obigbo are used interchangeably, even by the natives of the town. for example http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/gruesome-murder-at-obigbo/

Maple:



Democracy is a game of numbers, deal with it. One or two out of those 19 states, is/are the size and population of the whole 5 SE states put together. If anything the "hausas" deserve more states. So my friend, others do have sense of entitlement too, yet they aint complaining.

I guess not when the soldiers from northern region of Nigeria carved up the country into states basically according to their tribal interest. It is only an idiotic ninny would think population is the only criterion in creation of a state. State creation must taken into consideration the mechanics of democracy. We shall definitely deal with it.

pazienza:


Who are they? The town people decided to change the name of their town for reasons best known to them, the rest of the towns in the LGA decided to keep theirs, what's the big deal? Name changes are the norm in modern Igbo land.

Awka etiti was Originally Awka- nkagwu, Abatete was originally Olokwu, Umuchukwu was previously Nkerehi, etc. People change their towns name in Igboland for whatever sentimental reason.

As long as Asa people are not about breaking away from the Igbo nation to form Asa ethnic nationality, they can give their town anything they like, no one cares, it's their right.

Story for the gods part 3.

Oyigbo was changed from Obigbo. Deal with it.

The same way all umus were changed to Rumus in Oguta or what is the Ibo name for PH again.

The same your properties were declared abandoned and hijacked.

I do not need any revisionist to lie to me, like Achebe, on what is well known in public domain.