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Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Nobody: 5:13pm On May 15, 2015
semitunde:

Lol. The bolded was a cheap shot.

You sorely underestimate the powers and influence of those guys in the two chambers. They may not have as much access to funds as the ministers but they determine the funding of the ministers. This apart from the little issue of helping to determine the person behind each ministry. Do you know the chambers guys carry out over site functions on each ministry and appropriate monies for such? They also determine what those amounts appropriated would be, apart from other budgetary allotments.

In this country we only know the extent to which the powers of an office can be wield after the person holding that office is allowed to go the full extent- see Aandokaa. We haven't yet seen the full powers of the chambers except maybe when they jettisoned obasanjo's third term bid.

I would like someone representing my region to be in the thick of things when destiny changing issues are being negotiated or when such full powers will be unleashed.

Lol. I just see through people's BS - understanding the dynamics of things is about being a vacuous rabble rouser and over-saturating everywhere with harebrained opinions. It's about analysing things far beyond the smoke and mirrors, and seeing things the average person doesn't see. Ditto drawing cerebral/interesting relative comparisons. I might be new in Nigerian politics, but with my wealth of knowledge of politics in other climes, I've got a perfect understand of everything - and I know the handful of folks on these sides who understand things as well. Not that clown. Sorry I had to call him out, while replying your post.

Yes, the legislative arm does have power (not denying that), but the power comes with numbers - and being the Senate President and/or Speaker doesn't negate the fact when it's time to vote, they only have one vote apiece. Hence I don't really attach much importance to both positions, apart from the superficial significance they have. Or do they both determine the pattern in which members of both houses vote?

Everything else they do is on the peripheral. Whoever has the portfolio designate how things are run in the ministry, and how to strategically protect certain interests. I don't want to get too deep into it but you can analyse how those ministries work, and look at how beneficial they would be to certain strategic interests.

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Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Ojiofor: 6:07pm On May 15, 2015
yemaldo:

But why are they adopting Yoruba name
See question.In another thread yorubas will swear that Igboland start and end in five southeastern states....that peter odili,chibuike amaechi,pat okesinachi utomi,jay Jay okocha etc...are not igbos but from Niger delta..your question should be when shall the yorubas stand for truth and justice?
until then,they shall be paid back in their own coin of deceit and conspiracy.
sarakis and yekinis of kwara state are confirmed fulanis.GBAM.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by limolalikamaila: 6:20pm On May 15, 2015
chukwudi44:


is that why you want to force Saraki to become a Yoruba man even when he has clearly told you he is not Yoruba?
who is forcing who.

Any which way, Yoruba didn't lose
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by superstar1(m): 6:25pm On May 15, 2015
Ojiofor:
See question.In another thread yorubas will swear that Igboland start and end in five southeastern states....that peter odili,chibuike amaechi,pat okesinachi utomi,jay Jay okocha etc...are not igbos but from Niger delta..your question should be when shall the yorubas stand for truth and justice?
until then,they shall be paid back in their own coin of deceit and conspiracy.
sarakis and yekinis of kwara state are confirmed fulanis.GBAM.

You are funny.

Is it the yorubas telling Ikwerres to say they are not ibos or is it yorubas telling Aniomas to.say they are not Ibos or is it yorubas advising Ikas to say they are not yorubas? It is those people saying they are not Igbos on their own. So face then and do not pass your stupidity to us.

Has ilorin people or akoko edo people or yorubas in kogi ever denied not being yorubas? Show me one denial.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Ojiofor: 6:43pm On May 15, 2015
superstar1:


You are funny.

Is it the yorubas telling Ikwerres to say they are not ibos or is it yorubas telling Aniomas to.say they are not Ibos or is it yorubas advising Ikas to say they are not yorubas? It is those people saying they are not Igbos on their own. So face then and do not pass your stupidity to us.

Has ilorin people or akoko edo people or yorubas in kogi ever denied not being yorubas? Show me one denial.
Why are you dragging saraki even when his father said he isn't yoruba.somebody posted a link you can go through it.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by superstar1(m): 7:11pm On May 15, 2015
Ojiofor:
Why are you dragging saraki even when his father said he isn't yoruba.somebody posted a link you can go through it.

Why should I be dragging his ethnicity, when his surname is Saraki, his name is Olusola, the name of his first son is Bukola and the name of his first daughter is Gbemisola.

We are OK with the yorubanisation of the Sarakis, the same way we are yorubanising your kith and kinsmen that troop into our blessed land.

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Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by adamskutty(m): 7:30pm On May 15, 2015
superstar1:

Igbos in Kogi and Benue are in which region?

Does that make them non-Igbos.

See the folly of the red cap wearing okoro man.
lool! No igbos in kogi who are indigenious pls, i am from kogi state. But we do have yorubas who are kogi indigenes in the west.

The igbos here are immigrants and quite a number of them were born here just like in lagos state, during christmas there vacate back to their villages. grin
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Ojiofor: 7:30pm On May 15, 2015
superstar1:


Why should I be dragging his ethnicity, when his surname is Saraki, his name is Olusola, the name of his first son is Bukola and the name of his first daughter is Gbemisola.

We are OK with the yorubanisation of the Sarakis, the same way we are yorubanising your kith and kinsmen that troop into our blessed land.
You see what I am talking about,if bukola is yoruba from NC and someone whose name is emeka uchenna from SS is not Igbo by biased yorubas.we have to be fair at all times.forget few who deny their ethnic identity for political reasons.as for yorubanising my kinsmen in yorubaland,that's fat lie.my people remain Ndi Igbo wherever they are.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by superstar1(m): 7:40pm On May 15, 2015
Ojiofor:
You see what I am talking about,if bukola is yoruba from NC and someone whose name is emeka uchenna from SS is not Igbo by biased yorubas.we have to be fair at all times.forget few who deny their ethnic identity for political reasons.as for yorubanising my kinsmen in yorubaland,that's fat lie.my people remain Ndi Igbo wherever they are.

You are a clown.

How does the ikwerres or aniomas or ikas denying being igbos turned to yoruba's wahala? Why can't you just face the people denying you, rather than making yorubas your headache.

Just mere learning of our language by your kiths and kinsmen shows the strategic psychological colonialisation of your people. If you do not know it, get it into your head that it is a conscious psychological warfare. Do you see us bearing Cynthia, Cassandra, Callistus the way your people drop their igbo names for oyinbo names? Even the first son of your greatest man, has Bamidele behind his name. That says it all.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Ojiofor: 8:10pm On May 15, 2015
superstar1:


You are a clown.

How does the ikwerres or aniomas or ikas denying being igbos turned to yoruba's wahala? Why can't you just face the people denying you, rather than making yorubas your headache.

Just mere learning of our language by your kiths and kinsmen shows the strategic psychological colonialisation of your people. If you do not know it, get it into your head that it is a conscious psychological warfare. Do you see us bearing Cynthia, Cassandra, Callistus the way your people drop their igbo names for oyinbo names? Even the first son of your greatest man, has Bamidele behind his name. That says it all.
The same way your people bear adams,ganiyu,wasiu,ibrahim even some has english names as surname like bode George.
Ol'boy,you can make your point without insulting yourself.take ya time or simply stop quoting me.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by superstar1(m): 9:05pm On May 15, 2015
Ojiofor:
The same way your people bear adams,ganiyu,wasiu,ibrahim even some has english names as surname like bode George.
Ol'boy,you can make your point without insulting yourself.take ya time or simply stop quoting me.

Lol. How rampant is your Bode George in comparison with your people?

All the name you mentioned are religious names. What makes Cynthia, Sandra and Callistus a religious name?

Stop showing your stupidity and face front.

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Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Ojiofor: 9:15pm On May 15, 2015
superstar1:


Lol. How rampant is your Bode George in comparison with your people?

All the name you mentioned are religious names. What makes Cynthia, Sandra and Callistus a religious name?

Stop showing your stupidity and face front.
Continue exposing your ignorance.Google is free.BTW,you will hardly find igboman with a foreign surname.the earlier you face front,the better.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 10:50pm On May 15, 2015
EUROBOMBER:

I sympathise with you and you're asking me to take a break?
Wow!









You are a psycho!!
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 10:56pm On May 15, 2015
Ojiofor:
Why are you dragging saraki even when his father said he isn't yoruba.somebody posted a link you can go through it.

If for any reason your father disowned you, would that stop you from being his biological son?

Would that stop your fellow villagers from calling you his son?

Saraki jnr has decided not to play politics with his origin like his father did seeing how it has not worked out in time past.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 11:01pm On May 15, 2015
winniz:


See ranting of a loser, is Kwara state not in North Central and headed by an Emir? So how is it Yorubaland? Quit whining the so called man is representing NC not SW, Kwara state belongs to hausa/Fulani not Yorubas so just deal with it.

Kwara state is headed by an emir indeed!
Dullard!!
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 11:03pm On May 15, 2015
ideykwum:
You must be a kindergarten! wink wink
hahahahahahaha Then you must be a 'creche'! Another ibo dullard!!
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by ideykwum: 1:36am On May 16, 2015
You are the dullard! Typos are inherent!! If you don't know that, you must be pretty stupid!!

VirginFinder:


hahahahahahaha
Then you must be a 'creche'!
Another ibo dullard!!
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 7:22am On May 16, 2015
ideykwum:
You are the dullard! Typos are inherent!! If you don't know that, you must be pretty stupid!!


hahahahahaha
'Typos' indeed.
Oya go back and correct the 'typos' in the post.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by veralech(f): 7:20pm On May 16, 2015
OduaVanguard:


You just don't get it, do you? We have no problem with Kwara being in the North Central geopolitical zone. That doesn't change the simple fact that we have Yorubas in Kwara and Kogi. You are obviously unhappy at the prospect of a Yoruba son clinching one of either positions since your entire existence and happiness as an igbo and Biafran is dependent upon a breakdown of the North - SW alliance. That you chose to reject Bukola's Yoruba roots is as inconsequential as you are as an igboman is in Nigeria politics.

Good talk
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by veralech(f): 7:21pm On May 16, 2015
disumusa:
Mumu igbo, iam from yoruba part of kogi, and sunday awoniyi was elect as arewa chairman, so yoruba and hausa are related, i,e religion,dresin,norms,value,and enviromentaly

True talk
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by abdulwastecx(m): 9:21pm On May 21, 2015
ilorin speaks better yoruba dialect than ondo,ekiti, or ogun... infact lorin is so closed to oyo and ibadon than say abeokuta.
Go to ilorin and tell them to their face that they are non yorubas
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by abdulwastecx(m): 9:42pm On May 21, 2015
Alhaji AbdulGaniy Folorunsho Abdulrazak, a former Nigerian Ambassador to Cote d’Ivoire, claims to have met the father of Dr. Olusola Saraki in Abidjan in the sixties. In this interview with BAMIDELE JOHNSON, he tells the story of his friendship with the older Saraki, whose origin he gives as Abeokuta

Q: What do you know about the background of Dr. Olusola Saraki?
Well, in 1962, I was appointed Ambassador of Nigeria to Cote d’Ivoire and one of those who met me at the port as part of the Nigerian community in
Abidjan turned out to be the father of Olusola Saraki, Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki. As an ambassador there, my second secretary in the embassy, Ignatius Olisemeka, who later became Foreign Affairs Minister, led officials of the embassy to come and meet me. That was around September or
October 1962. In those days, there was only one flight from Lagos to other West African countries. Ships plied the coast of West Africa, carrying some
passengers. One of the ships named General Mangaine travelled on the West African coast, stopping at principal ports. After leaving the Cameroons, it came to Lagos, where I went aboard together with Ado Ibrahim, who is now
the Emir of Kano. Both of us were appointed the same day as ambassadors; he to Senegal, I to Ivory Coast. We went with our respective families,
stopping at several ports along the way until we finally disembarked at Abidjan. So, I observed that the crowd that came to meet me at the port was divided into two and members of each group had flags of different colours,
saying: “Welcome, our ambassador.” One group had white and the other, green. And they were supposed to be a Nigerian community welcoming their ambassador. Then, Olisemeka, my secretary, took me to my official residence. He was more like a permanent secretary to me. He was like a permanent secretary is to a minister. When we got home, he showed me the rooms along with my children and wife. Later, I called Olisemeka and asked why members of the Nigerian community that came to meet me were waving different banners and were standing apart, not mixing. He said I was very perceptive. I asked if they were divided and he said they were. He explained that the division was caused by a fighting over who would lead the Nigerian community. When I asked who the contenders were, he said one was called Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki, while the other was Emmanuel Alabi.

So, I told Olisemeka that one of my first duties would be to see Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki and Emmanuel Alabi. And I said I would see only the two of them and not their supporters at 10a.m. the next day. On getting to the embassy in the morning and settling down in my office, Olisemeka came to tell me that the two gentlemen had arrived. He then brought in Muttahiru Saraki, who sat on my right, Alabi on the left. I thanked them for welcoming me on my arrival and told them that my secretary, also present, told me that the two of them were fighting over the leadership of the community. I said I was not prepared to work with a divided community. I also told them that I had not invited them to the embassy to hear why they were fighting.

I said from their looks, Muttahiru Saraki would be the older person. And
because of that, I said I was recognising him as the leader of the community. And against my expectation, Alabi stood up and prostrated before Saraki, holding his leg and saying: ‘I accept you as my leader.’ And I told him he would be Saraki’s deputy.

Alabi then asked for permission to say something and I asked him to go on. He said nobody ever called the two of them together and it was only their followers who were treating the matter that way. And Alhaji Saraki also said he accepted him as his deputy.

I later thanked them and they went away together. About a week later, Olisemeka came to me saying he wanted to thank me for the resolution of the problem between Muttahiru Saraki and Alabi. He said it was like a miracle and that within a week, he had seen a reduction, to about one per cent, in consular problems like fighting between Nigerians, going to police stations and so on. From then on, throughout my stay there as ambassador, I went to the mosque to say my Friday prayers with Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki. I’d go out of my way to take Alhaji Saraki from his house and we’d drive to the mosque together. After prayers, I also brought him back. Naturally, the relationship between the two of us blossomed. Then one Sunday, my guard, a policemen, came and said there was an old man who wanted to see me and his name was Saraki.

He then brought in Muttahiru Saraki and we started to talk. Then he asked me where I come from. I told him I am from Ilorin. Alhaji Saraki said he was an Egba man from Abeokuta. By this time, I did not even know the existence of Olusola Saraki. So, the man told me he was from Abeokuta, but he went to a Quranic school in Ilorin at Agbaji, an area of reputed for Islamic scholarship. The man, with his own mouth, told me he was an Egba man from Abeokuta. And as of that time, I knew of no existence of any member of his family. This was in early 1963. So, we carried on like that.

The fact that I resolved the problem between him and Alabi helped us a great deal for our consular cases. As the leader of the Nigerian community and being older than me, Saraki, at my request, always sat by my side wherever I went in my my capacity as Nigeria’s representative. At a point, members of the Nigerian community were calling him deputy ambassador and he enjoyed that. Anywhere I went officially, I took him along. When I was going to present my letters of credence to the head of state (Houphouet-Boigny) I took him along, too. Incidentally, President Houphouet-Boigny was a medical doctor and had been Saraki’s doctor before he became President. They knew each other before I came on the scene. After the man entered politics and he became minister and later, president, they saw less of each other. So it was a great reunion for them on that day. Of course, the news quickly spread that the “deputy ambassador” was a friend to the president. We carried on like that and had a good personal relationship.

Did you meet his wife?
He was a polygamist. He had about three then, with some children, some older than Sola Saraki, and some younger. When I got to the house every Friday to take him to the mosque, I saw them. One Sunday, he came again through the policeman at the gate. And after entertainment with drinks, he told me he had come that day to thank me. He said he had never met any human being, not even his own children, who had honoured him as I had done and that he did not even know how to show his appreciation. I said there was no need for all that. That was in 1963. He then said that he had a son who was studying to be a doctor in London and whenever he came home on holidays, he’d like us to meet. One Sunday during the summer holidays, Alhaji Saraki brought Sola to introduce him to me. And after they took their seats, Alhaji Saraki started talking by saying ‘Sir’. I asked him to cut that out because he was as old as my father. He then reminded me about his son he said was in London. I stood up to greet Sola and he stretched out his hand for a handshake. The father got up and slapped his face, saying: That’s my god you want to shake hands with. You should prostrate.

But I said we were both young men, within the same age group. I made light of it, saying we knew how to greet each other. That was how I met Sola Saraki.

Did you relate with him at all?
I will get to that. So, the father now said he was putting him in my care. ‘Take care of him for me,’ he said. Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki, the father of Sola is dead now, and is in the right place. If I am telling lies, he is hearing. That was how I met Sola Saraki. And I told him that it was good that as a young man, he is a professional. I advised him to return home to participate in politics. I am talking of 1963.

I remained in Abidjan till 1964, when my party, the Northern Peoples Congress, through my leader, the Sardauna of Sokoto, sent for me. He said I had to resign because they wanted to appoint me a minister in the cabinet of Tafawa Balewa. So, the Sardauna sent for me and said I was going to be a minister in the next government. He said he would tell Ilorin people that I’d be returned to the parliament unopposed. I was appointed minister in charge of Nigerian Railways and I performed other functions, like being a confidante to the Prime Minister.

Back to Sola Saraki. When I then went back to campaign in 1964, to go to parliament, with a view to be appointed a minister, Sola surfaced. That was two weeks to the election. He told me that he had decided to heed the advice I gave him in Abidjan to go into politics. I asked where he wanted to contest and he said Asa. Asa is a local government that shares a boundary with Ilorin Central. When I replied Sola, I admitted that I advised him to come into politics, but he had come too late. In Asa, there was a member of parliament, Mr. Babatunde, whom the party had decided to return unopposed. However, he said he would contest.

Did you raise the issue that he was an Egba man when he said he was going to contest?

That didn’t arise at that time. It is now that the sort of question is being raised. He said he would contest. He went to Lagos and brought some packets of medicine and he put up a mat and a hut in Asa and started giving people injections. These were for people who lacked medical attention. The whole of Asa local government had no hospital at all. If anybody fell sick, they had to take the person to Ilorin.

He started giving them cheap medicine, thinking that it would win him their votes. He did not take into consideration that one, there was a member of parliament on ground. Second, the same man was being presented by my party. Also, he was going to be an independent candidate. Naturally, he was defeated. That was his entry into Ilorin politics. Then, he started visiting Ilorin, sharing money to people; money that he had made from medical practice through the retainership he had with the Nigerian Ports Authority and Ministry of Defence. At that time, the army did not have a hospital or a medical department. The Air Force also did not have any. So, whatever bills he sent to them, they paid him.

So, he was making constant visits, and building himself up. And that was the situation in Ilorin. If he says he is an Ilorin man, ask him where the home of his father is.

He will point to Agbaji. Agbaji was the place his father schooled. That is
the only connection he has to the place. He knows I know this and he cannot face me and say it is not true. There was one time he wanted to change his identity, claiming he was from Mali. If the father of Bukola is not an Ilorin man, how can Bukola be?

Who is the mother of Bukola? We know she is not from Ilorin. It is even doubtful that she is a Nigerian. The wife that I know with Sola Saraki, that he brought to my house in 1964, when he became a doctor, did not have a job. I was then a minister, living at No 2 Thompson Road, Ikoyi. He brought his wife, saying they had just come together from England. And I got the wife a job through my friend and colleague in the cabinet, who was the Minister for Establishment. That was the first job of Morenike, the mother of Gbemi. And the mother of Gbemi is not the mother of Bukola.

All through this time, were you still in touch with his father whom you left in Cote d’Ivoire or you broke off?

I maintained my friendship with his father. His father was writing me letters. In one of the letters, he told me he was very sick. And at that time, Sola was in private medical practice at Offin in Lagos and I went there to rebuke him. I said he was a useless doctor if his father was suffering in a foreign country. I said he should be his number one patient at his clinic. And he brought him back. It was in that hospital that the man died.

If you were that close, you must have met some of Muttahiru Saraki’s family members. Do you recall running into any of them in Ilorin?

None at all. Even up till now. There was one Iya Alaro. But Iya Alaro was a daughter of Alhaji Muttahiru Saraki, married to an Ilorin person. And that is the root of Sola Saraki coming to Ilorin. When he came to Ilorin, he stayed with Iya Alaro at Agbaji. But Iya Alaro’s relationship with Ilorin was that of a wife of an Ilorin man. I know Alhaji Saraki had a male child in his house in Abidjan. He was older than Sola. He did not have Western education. And I think he must have settled back in Lagos or Abeokuta.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by abdulwastecx(m): 9:45pm On May 21, 2015
Another man who disputes Dr. Saraki’s indigeneship of Ilorin is
Dr. Sa’ad Omo-Iya, a politician and lecturer at the Department of History, University of Ilorin. While he does not claim to know exactly where Saraki hails from, he is convinced that the politician is not from Ilorin. According to Omo-Iya, when Saraki came to contest the parliamentary election in 1964, he contested in Asa and not Ilorin. And before 1974, when he started his politics-inspired philanthropy, added the lecturer, there was nothing link•ing him to Agbaji Quarters, where he claims to be his family compound. Saraki was said to have lived in a place called Popojiwa. But when he was given the traditional title of Turaki of Ilorin in 1974–on account of his generosity–the traditional institution found a place for him in Agbaji. Many people, said Omo-Iya, did not oppose him because he was spending money and presented him•self as a defender of Ilorin people, who felt oppressed by the Igbomina. One man, however, rejected Saraki’s gesture. The man, who also once lived in Abidjan, was resident in Agbaji. Saraki was said to have claimed he was the man’s nephew and offered to rebuild the man’s old house in Agbaji. The man was said to have turned down the offer, saying no brother of his told him he had a son named Olusola. The house remained that way until the man died and his children got seduced by Saraki’s wealth.

Omo-Iya insists that the Sarakis are the only Ilorin family that does not have extended family members or a family house. A similar claim was made by Abiodun Kolawole, author of Kwara: A State In Bondage. In the book’s first chapter, the author contends that Saraki’s origin is hazy. While he agrees that Saraki’s mother may have hailed from Iseyin, his paternal roots do not lend themselves to such a declaration, as there is no Ilorin indigene that does not have extended family spread from one quarter to another, either through marriage or relocation from one part of the emirate to another. “Saraki’s family is one of the very few exceptions that do not have any claimed relations or historical family house in Ilorin,” writes Kolawole.

On Page 16, the author describes as fallacious Saraki’s claim that his great-grandfather, an alleged Fulani, got to Ilorin 200 years ago.

According to the author, historical records show that the arrival of the Fulanis in Nigeria is just a little above two centuries. On account of his residency of Ilorin for more than four decades, the Ni•gerian Constitution regards Saraki as an Ilorin man. Section 42 of chapter IV of the Constitution provides for the right to freedom from discriminations.

Specifically it states: “ A citizen of Nigeria of a particular community, ethnic group, place of origin, sex, religion or political opinion shall not, by reason only that he is such a person:
(a) be subjected either expressly by, or in the practical application of, any law in force in Nigeria or any executive or administrative action of the government, to disabilities or restrictions to which citizens of Nigeria of other communities, ethnic groups, places of origin, sex, religions or political opinions are not made subject; or

(b) be accorded either expressly by, or in the practical application of, any law in force in Nigeria or any such executive or administrative action, any privilege or advantage that is not accorded to citizens of Nigeria of other communities, ethnic groups, places of origin, sex, religions or political opinions.”

Dr. Saraki is said to be out of the country for medical attention.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by EMANY01(m): 9:55pm On May 21, 2015
superstar1:


Yeah Osundefender is pro-yoruba/apc.

It's a game, we are all watching closely. One thing I am sure of is, as usual, we always know all the moves of our opponents and we are always 10ce prepared for any eventuality.


May 29 is just around the corner. The game continues.

Actually you are calling it after me although not on Nairaland but if you think that the northerners have not games this scenario out then I have to say that you have not looked at the senario hard enough.
As we speak they have contingency plans in place to deal with retaining power regardless of the constitutional succession protocols.
Ya all need to remember that two of the major actor's in the Yaradua drama, Danbaba and Yakubu are prominent members of the incoming government.
If anything as soon as the old man starts to snow down (as he inevitably will)possibly even before the two years you predicted,his kinsmen will call him sit him down warn him to not exert himself.They will draw lessons from yaradua to make their point and will compel him to reconstitute the erstwhile kitchen cabinet which will run the government in his steed.
The veep will by this time be completely isolated.
The yaradua crew would have succeeded if yaradua had been healthy enough to stand for five minutes and then sit for an hour. not saying much or doing anything.. Error i
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 4:39pm On Jun 09, 2015
I said it...
Proud of Gbaja though, and his diehard supporters who defied sentiment to vote him.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 5:17pm On Jun 09, 2015
This section is going to be jampacked throughout the rest of the day...
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Eshinwaju: 5:19pm On Jun 09, 2015
VirginFinder:
Whether a Yoruba man from the North Central(Bukola) emerges as Senate President or another Yoruba man from the SW emerges Speaker(Femi), all I see is a win-win scenario for we Yorubas.
If former is the case, Yoruba would have emerged nos 2 & 3 in the federation and if
the latter is the case, we would have emerged nos 2 & 4.

However, I have noticed that some ibos (especially on NL) in a bid to spite/taunt Yorubas are trying very hard to label Bukola as a Fulani man thereby defying reason and common sense out of sheer envy for Yorubas.
These moroniccc ibos fail to realise the having secured the no 2 slot(potential no 1), any other principal position Yorubas get is just an icing on the cake.

If ibos were no 2, they dare not ask for anything else.
Despite voting(rigging) massively for the GEJ/PDP in 2011, the best they could get was Deputy Senate President followed by Deputy Speaker .

The only impediment to a SW speakership is a Bukola emergence as Senate President and not the readiness of ibos and other non Yoruba southern/PDP reps to vote Yakubu Dogara in a hateful bid to hit back at the Yorubas.
NE wont clamour for the Speakership if they already have the senate presidency.

It'll be unfair to have nos 2,3,4 coming from one tribe(Yoruba).
Even the north have expressed this sentiment. This explains Tinubu's backing of the NE for the Senate Presidency to pave the way for the SW - not for any other reason than the quest to remain the most powerful Yoruba politician in APC. It's almost the same reason he dissed Mulikat Akande in 2011.

Unfortunately for Tinubu, Bukola Saraki appears to be very popular across party lines in the senate. He may eventually emerge.

In the end, Yorubas' interests remain intact.
That's why it's a win-win for we Yorubas.
Yoruba interest surpasses that of any Yoruba person.
From time immemorial, we Yorubas know that Yorubaland is bigger than the SW. My great grandmum was a Yoruba woman from the NC.














Envious ibos can go hades!

now that is what I call analysis....great foresight....... cheesy....osinbajo and saraki...... cheesy
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by Bifwoli: 5:22pm On Jun 09, 2015
OMG,its the clueless,divisive and boring Yorubas again? May God save Nigeria from their well known mediocrity and their penchant for sparking controversies.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by lokoloko84(m): 5:23pm On Jun 09, 2015
Honestly I do not know why the Yoruba's are defensive about this issue.They might delude themselves that they do not care whether these positions were zoned to them or not,the reality is that the political climate in this clime is tribal based.
I do not see the benefit of voting for APC with the northern region having more reasonable positions.Being a V.P is simply a subjective position and not a big deal.
When it comes to politics, the northerners are more united and do not really care about performance and they will always support each other.
I personally do not know what the Yoruba's have benefited from this present Union.
I admirer the mental faculty of Tinubu but to be sincere,We do not have real leaders in yorubaland yet.
Most of them are after their own interest. Hope the current youths wake up.But I am confident that within the next few years, real Yoruba leaders will emerge and reverse the statusquo.
The awareness is on the rise again.

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Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 5:27pm On Jun 09, 2015
Eshinwaju:


now that is what I call analysis....great foresight....... cheesy....osinbajo and saraki...... cheesy
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by lokoloko84(m): 5:29pm On Jun 09, 2015
Honestly I do not know why the Yoruba's are defensive about this issue.They might delude themselves that they do not care whether these positions were zoned to them or not,the reality is that the political climate in this clime is tribal based.
I do not see the benefit of voting for APC with the northern region having more reasonable positions.Being a V.P is simply a subjective position and not a big deal.
When it comes to politics, the northerners are more united and do not really care about performance and they will always support each other.
I personally do not know what the Yoruba's have benefited from this present Union.
I admire the mental faculty of Tinubu but to be sincere,We do not have real leaders in yorubaland yet.
Most of them are after their own interest. Hope the current youths wake up.But I am confident that within the next few years, real Yoruba leaders will emerge and reverse the statusquo.
The awareness is on the rise again.
Re: Senate Presidency/speakership: A Win-win For Yorubas by VirginFinder: 5:38pm On Jun 09, 2015
Eshinwaju:


now that is what I call analysis....great foresight....... cheesy....osinbajo and saraki...... cheesy

Thanks bro!
Unfortunately, one gbarcanista somewhere will be feeling like a don...

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