haibe:


Oh yes.. I watched Ellen DeGeneres say this some time ago.. A lot others have said it openly and proudly too.. I guess you aren't aware much about the western world

freecocoa:
What are you talking about exactly? That they are thieves?

haibe:


Oh yes.. I watched Ellen DeGeneres say this some time ago.. A lot others have said it openly and proudly too.. I guess you aren't aware much about the western world

freecocoa:
What are you talking about exactly? That they are thieves? Because I need the answer to that, not that I didn't know people are gay and proud.

winner01:
u were tryn to adjust ur msg in ur reply....not cool

haibe:
ahan.. didn't u see the post which I replied to? About gays coming to say it openly

freecocoa:
I didn't see this before my other reply. Ofcourse I know people are gay and proud, I asked two questions alright but I only needed 1 answer because I assumed(in error) that even a blind man by now know people are gay and proud everywhere, even if they have some(gay people?hiding in some parts of the world.

I need to know if thieves anywhere can be legally thieves and be proud,over the world?

RiffRaff:
It is your business if u decide not to have sex in a relationship...
As far as i am concerned, it is a free world. Wether you choose to have sex or not is a personal decision.
My biggest grouse with this write up is terming Sex is as "immorality".
Sex is a beautiful part of nature. As long as 2 conscenting adult decides to have sex & it is not rape. There is absolutely nothing immoral about it.
Everybody should find their own kind. You wanna keep yourself till marriage, fine.. Goodluck to you!
Let those who wants to have sex do so by all means. Different strokes for different strokes.
People should stop quoting retarded lies from fabricated middle eastern & Jewish Religion and fairytale God to back up the claim that sex is "Dirty or Immoral"
Dont feel guilty about something as amazing & beautiful as sex, its an important part of nature.
So ladies and gentlemen, have sex, learn more about it, improve on it, make sure you stay PROTECTED always and if you choose not to, make sure you are always ready for what comes after.
Cheers!

safarigirl:
This topic came up because I was having a discussion with my room mates and I told them simply that anyone who thinks she's ready to have sex, should equally be ready for the consequences.

Then they said that it isn't really a girl's fault if she sleeps with a guy who 'deceives' her into thinking he's genuine thereby getting pregnant.

Now, there I fully disagree. Isn't it always easier to blame the guy for impregnating you? "Oh, he told me he loves me and that's why I slept with him"....um, if I want something from someone, of course I'll say all the right things. Or, when you wan collect money from the guy, shey you sef no dey abuse the 'L' word?

Any girl sleeping with a dude because he 'professed his 'undying love' is either a 12-year old or re-tarded.

The next thing they said is "It takes the grace of God to overcome temptation"...leave it to black people to pull God into their mess. When you put yourself in a risky situation, prepare for risks. If you decide to go to a man's house- a virile man's house alone, be ready for certain things that could arise. This isn't about just the grace of God, this is about being smart and cautious.

Unless in rape cases and those involving minors, there is no sort of sexual relationship between a man and woman that is non-consensual. You were of sane mind when he touched you, kissed and fondled, comot cloth, comot undies and finished project, so why make excuses?

One was even askinng me that so if I had a bf I wouldn't sleep with him. And I replied that it's only in this century that sleeping with a man just because he's courting you is viewed as perfectly normal. That view is what made me realise that the world has been taken over by madness the likes of which TB Joshua cannot cure.

I have made a personal decision not to involve myself in fornication and I have been pro-active about it by ensuring that I stay away from 'dangerous' situations. I have tons of male friends some of whom have expressed their interests and have been turned down, if I must meet them, we meet in public places. I do not subscribe to meeting males in private, staying out late with guys who I know little of or generally being in uncomfortable situations. Of course I sometimes come off as a shrewd or frigid, but you have to take some things, better that than ashawo or public toilet

If you have made a decision to be sexually active, then don't make excuses for it. Don't present yourself as a victim of the 'superior male intellect'. I dey kpansh, I dey kpansh, dem no fit kill pesin ontop that one. Call 10 litres of petrol what it is, don't present 10 litres as 15 litres or say "it's supposed to be 10 litres, but the attendant cheated me"

Be who you are and stand for something.

Thank you

stan241:
Personally i believe the word "Immorality" has turned into a "personal" thing meaning you can't enforce what you see as immoral on another person, we can go on about this sex thingy but its all down to individuals and what they "believe" in and not really about morals anymore that's the world we are faced with today, its a personal choice really now for me if i don't have any sort of emotional connection to you(which is rare) aint no way I'm getting down with you unlike some who well as long as the opposite sex has the desired features, then its game on @op its all about personal beliefs and not really "Immorality" as you termed it but nice write up

kandiikane:


I agree with this. The op might come with a bible to support her reasoning for calling it immoral but not everyone believes in that so you are right in saying it's personal.

When they were doing it they forgot all that immoral and fornicating bit but when they turn born again, thats when they start pointing fingers and being judgy instead of whipping themselves to oblivion for their "immoral" ways in penance.

deeptesting:


I recently found Christ and doing all my best to live in accordance with his will through the help of the holy spirit. I was happy and my spirit leaped in joy when i read your opinion and that of the OP.. It is pretty difficult to live in this part of the world as a true follower of Jesus Christ but what will a follower of Christ be without temptation and ridicule?

However, i find it so hard to understand when those who profess Christianity are caught living a double life in the simplest of things, please i hope you and the OP are not into collecting money and gifts from these boys and later turn around to deny them sex? The Bible says "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God".

The Bible also in James 1:27b says" We should keep oneself unspotted from the world" So on point. Congratulations on your new birth. Grace, more grace. Its a difficult world we live in, but we are assured of the crown of life, when we endure to the end. Thank GOD we have help. Hmmm, the harvest is much, but few labourers. Thank GOD for grace. Its well

It is my prayer that you girls keep to your faith and know that God will reward you earnestly that which you have lost in 21 folds.

haibe:
let me go by ur logic that morality is subjective in this one.. Since morality is subjective, then yes.. assuming it is subjective like you say

deeptesting:


I recently found Christ and doing all my best to live in accordance with his will through the help of the holy spirit. I was happy and my spirit leaped in joy when i read your opinion and that of the OP.. It is pretty difficult to live in this part of the world as a true follower of Jesus Christ but what will a follower of Christ be without temptation and ridicule?

However, i find it so hard to understand when those who profess Christianity are caught living a double life in the simplest of things, please i hope you and the OP are not into collecting money and gifts from these boys and later turn around to deny them sex? The Bible says "Give to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God".

The Bible also in James 1:27b says" We should keep oneself unspotted from the world"
It is my prayer that you girls keep to your faith and know that God will reward you earnestly that which you have lost in 21 folds.

freecocoa:
you didn't answer the question.

Can thieves be proud anywhere in the part of the world freely without consequences? Yes or no.

kandiikane:


I agree with this. The op might come with a bible to support her reasoning for calling it immoral but not everyone believes in that so you are right in saying it's personal.

When they were doing it they forgot all that immoral and fornicating bit but when they turn born again, thats when they start pointing fingers and being judgy instead of whipping themselves to oblivion for their "immoral" ways in penance.

safarigirl:
i'm not a bible freak, so I can't even quote anything to support whatever.

I believe the last paragraph of my write-up clearly outlined that i'm not against people having sex, i'm against people who have sex and then blMe everyone but themselves

winie:
So on point. Girls. Men are not ur meal tickets nor ATM. Congratulations on your new birth. Grace, more grace. Its a difficult world we live in, but we are assured of the crown of life, when we endure to the end. Thank GOD we have help. Hmmm, the harvest is much, but few labourers. Thank GOD for grace. Its well

safarigirl:
i'm not a bible freak, so I can't even quote anything to support whatever.

I believe the last paragraph of my write-up clearly outlined that i'm not against people having sex, i'm against people who have sex and then blMe everyone but themselves

haibe:


If I get you right, you are saying you can only be moral or immoral based on what a man made law says?

You don't see homosexuality as immoral but the Nigerian law condemns it outrightly with a 14 years imprisonment? Sorry but am yet to understand your point as it is not consistent.

I was Comparing Nigeria to turkey as per you saying fornication can never be an offence. .Go to islamic countries and fornicate openly okay?

A thief's act is not seen as a wrong act by all, even though it is an immoral act. I gave you the analogy of a thief because it was infact very common with my roomates in school back then. They do not see their yahoo yahoo 419 scam to the white man as stealing because the white man stole from us years back? Now does this mean stealing isnt immoral? That was my point which is very easy to conprehend.

Anyone that truly know the meaning of immorality knows that homosexuality is immoral, they may not see it as an offence, thus not supporting the bill to be passed to law but that doesn't mean they don't see it as an immoral act. For example, I wont support the fornication bill to be passed to law but that doesn't mean that fornication is morally okay.

kandiikane:


When you steal, you are depriving someone of something which is a bad thing.

When someone is having intercourse with a person of the same sex in their bedroom, it does not have any impact on you whatsoever or deprive you of anything.

Can you see the difference?

haibe:
oga we are talking of morality and immorality here. Its independent of the pleasure u derive from it.. So if something does not affect me directly, its is morally right, SMH!!

freecocoa:
Na wa o, seriously how can you define what she wrote with this post of yours?

haibe:
oga we are talking of morality and immorality here. Its independent of the pleasure u derive from it.. So if something does not affect me directly, its is morally right, SMH!!

Brytawon:
FTC! Yes I made it!
Like to dedicate this privilege to any woman who has stood for her dignity, who upholds her integrity not because of circumstances but because of her respect for her future husband. Every woman's pride lies not only in her preservation but the respect her husband renders to her for not doing otherwise.
Thumbs up @Op.
FP material!!!
I said it...

kandiikane:


Yes.
Even the thief may feel guilty afterwards for his actions but when a homosexual is with the love of his life, why would he feel guilty when he is doing someone what his body naturally wants to do.

The concept of morally and immorality is subjective.

haibe:
I believe she understands