ShayGirl:
Hmmmmm....
The only words I find too contradictory in d bible are d last words of Jesus on the cross...
(Mt. 27:46-50 & Mk 14:34-37) made it clear that "Eli ,Eli, lama sabachthani(My God, My God, why has thou forsaken me),were his last words...whereas (Luke 23:46) stated his last word was " Father into thy hands, I commit my spirit"....when (John 19:30) specified that he breath his last after saying "It is finished"....

op, could u pls throw more light on this

sportsmaster:


rilwayne001 does not know that many words are used figuratively in the bible.

he just picks the ones he wants to use there thereby taking it out of context.

The context itself defines the meaning of all the words.

Faith in luke 11 and luke 18 is different from the faith in the entire book of Romans.

In Bible interpretation,immediately the context changes,the meaning of all the Words changes.

ShayGirl:
Hmmmmm....
The only words I find too contradictory in d bible are d last words of Jesus on the cross...
(Mt. 27:46-50 & Mk 14:34-37) made it clear that "Eli ,Eli, lama sabachthani(My God, My God, why has thou forsaken me),were his last words...whereas (Luke 23:46) stated his last word was " Father into thy hands, I commit my spirit"....when (John 19:30) specified that he breath his last after saying "It is finished"....

op, could u pls throw more light on this

starlingslimnet:
He said that to fulfil the Scripture that says in the book of Psalms "My God why hast thou forsaken me" this is just a fulfilment of the Scripture.

sportsmaster:


the answer to this is simple,the Four Gospels i.e Mattew,Mark,luke,John and the book of Acts,
they are eye-witnesses accounts,i.e they wrote what they saw or heard,by doing this,they could not have captured all the events.

John even iterates this fact in the last chapter of John.

he said "Jesus did many things that was not recorded in this book".
see John20:30.

None of the Four Gospels(Mattew,Mark,Luke,John) fully captured all the events.

It is when you place all of them together that you will have clear picture of the whole events.

starlingslimnet:
He said that to fulfil the Scripture that says in the book of Psalms "My God why hast thou forsaken me" this is just a fulfilment of the Scripture.

malvisguy212:

This does not show a contradiction any
more than two witnesses to an accident
at an intersection will come up with two
different scenarios of that accident,
depending on where they stood. Neither witness would be incorrect, as they describe the event from a different
perspective. Luke was not a witness to
the event, and so is dependent on those
who were there. John was a witness.

What they are both relating, however, is
that at the end Jesus gave himself up to
death. It could be said that Luke used the last words that he felt were necessary for his gospel account, which concentrated on the humanity of Christ (noted in the earlier question), while John, as well as quoting the last words of Jesus, was interested in the fulfilment of the salvific message, and so quoted the last phrase “it is finished”.

John 17:4 records Jesus’ prayer to the
Father in the light of Christ’s forthcoming crucifixion, stating that He had completed the work of revelation (John 1:18), and since revelation is a particular stress of the Gospel of John, and the cross is the consummation of that commission (John 3:16), it is natural that this Gospel should centre on tetelestai.
At any rate, if Jesus said ‘It is finished;
Father into your hands I commit my
spirit’ or vice versa, it would be quite in
order to record either clause of this
sentence, his last words. Luke-Acts
reaches its conclusion without any
climax, because the continuing ministry
of the exalted Christ through the Holy
Spirit and the Church has no ending
prior to the Parousia, and to record
tetelestai might have undermined this
emphasis, or it could have been taken
the wrong way. At any rate, no
contradiction is involved; purely a
distinction of emphasis.

malvisguy212:

This does not show a contradiction any
more than two witnesses to an accident
at an intersection will come up with two
different scenarios of that accident,
depending on where they stood. Neither witness would be incorrect, as they describe the event from a different
perspective. Luke was not a witness to
the event, and so is dependent on those
who were there. John was a witness.

What they are both relating, however, is
that at the end Jesus gave himself up to
death. It could be said that Luke used the last words that he felt were necessary for his gospel account, which concentrated on the humanity of Christ (noted in the earlier question), while John, as well as quoting the last words of Jesus, was interested in the fulfilment of the salvific message, and so quoted the last phrase “it is finished”.

John 17:4 records Jesus’ prayer to the
Father in the light of Christ’s forthcoming crucifixion, stating that He had completed the work of revelation (John 1:18), and since revelation is a particular stress of the Gospel of John, and the cross is the consummation of that commission (John 3:16), it is natural that this Gospel should centre on tetelestai.
At any rate, if Jesus said ‘It is finished;
Father into your hands I commit my
spirit’ or vice versa, it would be quite in
order to record either clause of this
sentence, his last words. Luke-Acts
reaches its conclusion without any
climax, because the continuing ministry
of the exalted Christ through the Holy
Spirit and the Church has no ending
prior to the Parousia, and to record
tetelestai might have undermined this
emphasis, or it could have been taken
the wrong way. At any rate, no
contradiction is involved; purely a
distinction of emphasis.

sportsmaster:


the answer to this is simple,the Four Gospels i.e Mattew,Mark,luke,John and the book of Acts,
they are eye-witnesses accounts,i.e they wrote what they saw or heard,by doing this,they could not have captured all the events.

John even iterates this fact in the last chapter of John.

he said "Jesus did many things that was not recorded in this book".
see John20:30.

None of the Four Gospels(Mattew,Mark,Luke,John) fully captured all the events.

It is when you place all of them together that you will have clear picture of the whole events.

malvisguy212:
They where adopted children, from Merab, Saul's daughter (1 Samuel 18:19), the wife of Adriel, the son of
Barzillai the Meholathite.

zeetyzin:

if d bible is really a book of God, why den are such reports contradictory?
its juz common sense
....for example, u wanna get a book which explains a particular topic.... in dat same book, four different ppl report four contradictory incidents regarding d topic u wanna research on...wouldn't u dismiss such book as inconclusive??...if d bible is really a book inspired by God, none of its reports should av any iota of error in it as God is all supreme and very perfect!
PEACE!

Presbulg:

Lol... Explanations formed on opinions and no valid evidence.

zeetyzin:

lol....evidence u say...wat more dyu need?

Presbulg:


Lol... Source?

Seems to me you just picked the one that that suits you

Or Do I need need devine intervention to understand ?

ShayGirl:



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Much more explanatory.... Thanx

zeetyzin:

if d bible is really a book of God, why den are such reports contradictory?
its juz common sense
....for example, u wanna get a book which explains a particular topic.... in dat same book, four different ppl report four contradictory incidents regarding d topic u wanna research on...wouldn't u dismiss such book as inconclusive??...if d bible is really a book inspired by God, none of its reports should av any iota of error in it as God is all supreme and very perfect!
PEACE!

Presbulg:

Opinions opinions opinions,NO GENUINE or VALID answer
Ifs buts and maybes

But why would a book written by men you people claim were inspired by God say contradictory things

malvisguy212:
after I provide bible verse you are still asking for source?
2 Samuel 21:18
But the king took Armoni and
Mephibosheth, the two sons of Aiah's
daughter Rizpah, whom she had borne
to Saul, together with the five sons of
Saul's daughter Merab, whom she had
borne to Adriel son of Barzillai the
Meholathite.

Rilwayne001:
Copy/paste war..Ti e ti ta laaro yii.

sportsmaster:
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NumberOne2:


...and your questions came from your head?



Bro, here is my answer to this thread.
Misconceptions happen when context is poorly understood. I have seen many threads on NL started cos someone did not understand context. I will not explain English context anyone except a believer. This is not the case here. Those asking questions DONT seek to learn EVEN when VALID answers are given, so whats the point?

malvisguy212:
continue your distraction, one thing for sure you cannot defend muhammed or Allah here
https://www.nairaland.com/2381817/contradictions-analyzed-bible-quran

https://www.nairaland.com/2457757/deceptive-deity

https://www.nairaland.com/2455498/pagan-holiday

https://www.nairaland.com/2408973/explanation-wanted

The funny thing is that All your copy and paste proved what I've explained in the op. Soo continue your distractions.

Rilwayne001:


When did Baasha die?

1KI 16:6-8 26th year of the reign of Asa


2CH 16:1 36th year of the reign of Asa

36 or 26th

sportsmaster:


the answer to this is simple,the Four Gospels i.e Mattew,Mark,luke,John and the book of Acts,
they are eye-witnesses accounts,i.e they wrote what they saw or heard,by doing this,they could not have captured all the events.

John even iterates this fact in the last chapter of John.

he said "Jesus did many things that was not recorded in this book".
see John20:30.

None of the Four Gospels(Mattew,Mark,Luke,John) fully captured all the events.

It is when you place all of them together that you will have clear picture of the whole events.

O boy! You're contradicting yourself here o, I thought Christians think it was inspired by god, mek una edit am, nothing like they didn't capture all events una god no tel dem

mustymatic:

O boy! You're contradicting yourself here o, I thought Christians think it was inspired by god, mek una edit am, nothing like they didn't capture all events una god no tel dem

ShayGirl:


I understand u perfectly well,but what I meant was why are the accounts different from each other with Jesus's last word on the cross...Thanx.

ShayGirl:


I understand u perfectly well,but what I meant was why are the accounts different from each other with Jesus's last word on the cross...Thanx.

Presbulg:


Can you pls elaborate ?
Thanks

sportsmaster:

the last thing i would do in this forum is to argue or try to explain bible subjects to an athiest