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Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:33am On Aug 10, 2015 |
INJESUSNAME:........... I'll be the last fool on earth to exchange words with you!! Long post? You have the option to quit this thread!.......... Evasive? You can as well keep quiet and allow the person who asked the question to talk. Do you get it....................... Confusing No, I don't agree! You must be a lazy man to read and comprehend. Irrelevant?? Pheeeeww, you must be a proponent of the "cram and pour" school of thought!.... Please keep your gob sealed and watch as they unfold 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:39am On Aug 10, 2015 |
Demmzy15:.............. Jazakallahu khaeran kethiran! Am grateful bro. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Annunaki(m): 3:52pm On Aug 10, 2015 |
The OP is very correct the quoran is filled with errors and contradictions. 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by dolphinheart(m): 5:26pm On Aug 10, 2015 |
Teekrayne: The scriptures made us to understand that there are many gods, a god is anything that you give might and veneration you can read psalms 86:8 and 1cor :5,6. But it also tells us which god is the true god, our father the almighty and our creator. Psalms 96:5 His name is jehovah/ yaweh . So despite the fact that there are many gods, we have only one true god who jesus Christ prayed to in john 17:3 . This true god is the one Christians worship , this true god is the one who sent jesus to use to be our messiah and savior. This same god is the one jesus referred to when he told Mary that he has not yet "ascended to my god and your god". No where in the bible is jesus or the holy spirit called almighty gods or is equality to almighty god attached to them . There is no "god the father, god the son, god the holy spirit" statement in the bible. No you have not asked too much . |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 8:36pm On Aug 10, 2015 |
dolphinheart:......... Am grateful. Also, why do some Christians refer to Jesus(Pbuh) as "our lord Jesus"? Is Jesus(Pbuh) a servant or a God or Son of God I anticipate your response |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by dolphinheart(m): 9:20pm On Aug 10, 2015 |
Teekrayne: Jesus is a teacher and master, therefore his disciples and followers are right to call him lord. Jesus is also the king of Gods kingdom and subjects of that kingdom are right to call him lord. So people who call jesus, "lord jesus" can do so because of the reasons stated above. I dnt know what you mean by servant, but if you mean " doing the will of others" then ill say jesus always does his fathers will, even to the point of death. I believe I've answered the question about jesus and god, but to add further, jesus is a god, the bible helps us to know that Satan is also a god. On the issue of son of god, when angel Gabriel came to Mary and announced her pregnancy to her he stated thus: "you will give birth to a son , you will name him jesus........he will be called son of the most high god". So jesus is the son of the most high god. -Luke 1:30-32 How about my own questions na 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Anas09: 11:39pm On Aug 10, 2015 |
@Dolphinheart sir. Jesus is not a god pls. Jesus is the direct image, expression, reflection, representation of God in the flesh. To make him a god is to make him an idol which will in turn mean u r an idol worshipper. 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Maamin(m): 12:38am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Anas09: I differ here with you sir!...in what sense of reverence do you define the term 'God' or 'god' or 'a god' ? remember there are no upper case or lower case in the original Hebrew language from which the word 'ELOHIM' was translated. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by dolphinheart(m): 2:50am On Aug 11, 2015 |
@ Anas09 , wanted to ask you same question that maamin asked, he just beat me to it . Waiting for ur explanation or reply to the question. Pls add this to it : is Satan a god ? 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by mahdino: 8:07am On Aug 11, 2015 |
dolphinheart: @ Teekrayne and dolphineheart. I followed your discussion, very interesting. I suggest we arrange for a meeting because some of the questions and answers will be too long to post, so if we can meet please. Thank you. My No. 08036060571 |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 9:55am On Aug 11, 2015 |
dolphinheart:are you a jehovah witness ? |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 10:00am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:the explanation you gave is far more different from the one muhammed gave to the arab christians who ask him the same question. Who are we to believe? You or muhammed ? |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 10:10am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:where in the bible, christian worship more than 1 God ? The bible only indicate this ONE God has more than ONE personalities. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 10:11am On Aug 11, 2015 |
dolphinheart:......... Let me pause here and allow you to ask your question... |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 10:13am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:.......... Go through the content of my post again before you ask me that question. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 10:17am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:I read it and its was different from the one muhammed gave, muhammed say the reason the idiom "sister of Arron" was used is because people of old referred to the old saint's like that , your answer does not go with the one muhammed gave. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 10:20am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:Jesus is God , He was from the beginning before the world was , men only began to see Him when the word become FLESH and dwell AMONG US. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 10:30am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Maamin:......... My view differs from the view of you both! I want to believe that just like other prophets who have come before and after Jesus are Messenger/servants of God, Jesus is also a Messenger/servant of God..... For elucidation purpose, read (Matt 12 vs 18) |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 10:42am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:...... With utmost respect, it would be wrongly wrong for you to say that Jesus is God as the bible refutes this. Besides, we all know Jesus was/is a human. The book of (Numbers 23 vs 19) says.... "God is not a Man".... The book of (Hosea 11 vs 9) says.. "For I am God, and not a man. Read up (John 8 vs 40), (Acts 2 vs 22) and get it right..... If you claim that Jesus is God and the HOLY BIBLE says a different thing, then there are limpid contradictory verses in the bible( with due obeisance)..... I mean no harm. We are only trying to learn from one another |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 10:53am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:..... Now I am convinced that you have read the post.... It might be a typographical error. No one is above mistake!! I meant to post what Muhammad(SAW) said. I don't write, I type! Remember How come I didn't notice? And even the person I posted it to didn't bother to call my attention, to show that some do not really mean to objectively debate with you. They just do it to say trash and provoke the "animal" in someone. Anyways, thanks for calling my attention to it. Perhaps in the process of explaining, I might have derailed, posted before realising that there are errors. May God be with us all. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 11:02am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:from the old testament we read how God send this prophet to prophesied and when ever this prophet want to start there message , they start like this 1.thus say the Lord 2.the word of God say to me ONLY Jesus start his message like this " VERILY, VERILY I SAY " indicate He was the one sending this prophet. man only saw Jesus (“the Word”John 1:1) after “the Word became flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1:14). He came in a veiled form. No human has ever seen Jesus in His TRUE IMAGE (i.e., as a spirit Being John 4:24 in all His glory and splendor). In his letter to the church at Philippi, the apostle Paul mentioned that Christ, Who had existed in heaven “in the form of God”, “made Himself of no reputation,” and took on the “likeness of men” (Philippians 2:6-7). Men saw an EMBODIMENT OF GOD as Jesus dwelt here in a fleshly form. Men saw “the Word”that “became flesh.” But no one has ever seen God’s true, complete image (as a spirit Being). |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:02am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:....... How can God(the unseen) have more than one personality It would be impossible for any part of God, even if incarnate, to decompose in any way and still be regarded as God! The everlasting, one God, in whole or in part, does not die, change, disintegrate or decompose; ...................................... See what the book of (Malachi 3 vs 6) says " For I the lord do not change"........ 1 Like |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 11:04am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:okay, Good. And you to. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:06am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:......... But you agree that he is/was a mere Messenger/servant and not God sir? |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 11:08am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:Genesis 1:26 say" let US created man in OUR IMAGE" The word "our" and "us" indicate more than one person is talking and the word IMAGE indicate one GOD. The context of malachi3:6 was talking about REVELATION and Not the nature of God. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:09am On Aug 11, 2015 |
dolphinheart:.... Sir, satan(Iblis) was an angel before he disobeyed God when God asked him to prostrate to Adam. He wasnt/isnt God! |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 11:15am On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:...... "Our" and "us"....... I vehemently disagree! The usage of "us" and "our" does not justify the fact that God is not one! |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 11:17am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:Jesus has two nature, he is fully God and Fully man. Its was God himself who possessed the body of Jesus, God did not override his freewill. Christ is a man, but this man was born without the consort of a woman, even the quran aknowleged satan touch ALL human from birth with the EXCEPTION of Jesus. So the points is, since christ the man is sinless, God dwell in his flesh. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by malvisguy212: 11:21am On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne:did I say God is more than one ? The our and us indicate his personalities and the image indicate ONE essence. If God is 3 the verse should have say" images" the quran used plurality to adress Allah but never give reason. |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Maamin(m): 12:44pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Teekrayne: And the bible also called this Angels sons of God (benei elohim). And even called satan the god of this age. Is now left for you to ask yourself what type or class or rank of a God is Satan..there are many Gods/gods whichever you chose, but there is one creator of all..it is him who we must worship and serve. And it doesnt matter whether you use small 'g' or capital letter 'G' the point is that all Gods have a specific name and the one true GOD as well, we call him "Yahweh"...what is the name of your own GOD? |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 1:03pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
Maamin:....... Allah! ....... That's not what my scripture teaches.... I can't force you to accept, neither can you. So, its better we just leave it as it were. Thanks alot |
Re: Another Error Of Quran Or Muhammed by Teekrayne(m): 1:05pm On Aug 11, 2015 |
malvisguy212:..... What verse of the Qur'an used plurality for Allah |
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