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Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by samazagudu(m): 8:19pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Jesus did not die neither he is resurrected. according to Saint Paul. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by victorazy(m): 8:20pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
mpowa: Nice one. Is ok sir. Na me give u the like. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by jahstech: 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
am0sn0nyu:I don't know if anyone has been able to give you an answer but I would like to chip in some points. From the source that brought up this question in believe you are an atheist or aspiring to be one, why everyone on earth has FREEWILL to do what he likes, it is wise we consider what we end up using our so called FREEWILL for. True YOU can't deny this fact, it gets to a point in your life when you tell yourself that you can do anything you want, why do you have this feeling, why not stay under the guide of your LOVING PARENTS? The son of the late Minister James Ocholi made a statement and I quote him "It is better to live your life as if there is a God and die to discover there is none than to live as if there is no God and to die and discover there is one". Am sure those words were born out of something. 1Peter 2:16 What may guide you in your quest for answers? Ask yourself if there is a basis to believe in an ancient book called the Bible, that's where the entire answer you seek for sterms from. True, many today question the validity, reliability, accuracy and authenticity of the Bible, but am sure the bible has proved itself beyond reasonable doubt. So may say things are JUST happening as they ought to be and no one is involved or controlling anything, one very important question I think of is the source of DEATH, despite all claims and accersion I have heard of, I know and can prove that no one wants to or is happy to die. But yet we are faced with this stalker of all stalkers. Science itself can't explain the concept of death, if our bodies are programmed to regenerate when we have an injury or have one problem or the other then where is the death coming from? I once reasoned with a man who was claiming there is no basis to believe in any God or forces of good or bad, after a lengthy discussion and trying to convince himself he refuted my above claim that he enjoys life and that he would rather die than continue living, the said man is still alive till this very minute. Don't try to justify any claim with the rate of suicide, it doesn't fit one bit, do the maths, among 10 people standing how many would have suicide on their mind? No need beating around, the world population tells the whole story. Ecclesiastes 3:11 Death apart, am yet to see the best explanation to humans history, you can tell me yours maybe it makes sense. Is it the big bang theory? Or what do you have? I would be eager to hear yours. Evolution is a process we are still waiting for, an hypothesis yet to be proven unless you can come out and prove it. Hebrews 3:4 Thanks for now, waiting for your response. Hoping to have a nice and problem free conversation. 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by KoloOyinbo(m): 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: Read what I said. How can you dismiss it when you cannot test it? You really have missed the point! Plus you comment on the cross is offensive to hundreds of millions of people. But then you knew it would be. 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Ben6ene:Yawn.. tell your dead Gay savior to come die another cross for me. I'll set up the cross myself on Olumo rock. Wetin concern me with carpenter pikin wey im tribesmen for Israel kill 2000 years ago... mscheew. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by gud4dbest(m): 8:22pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:23pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
KoloOyinbo:How can it be known if it can not be tested? |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Lawal25(m): 8:23pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Ben6ene: I can never serve Jesus nor worship him. When God is there for me, why run to a MAN. 1 Like |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Kingsley10000: 8:25pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
nairaland is full of atheist |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Eeroh95(m): 8:26pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
am0sn0nyu: |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:26pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
theDEVILisHERE:Do you think that the world is accident? |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by KoloOyinbo(m): 8:27pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: It is not known. That is the point of Faith. If we knew God exists we could prove it. We have faith he exists NOT knowledge. Mind you, if he didnt exist I dont know where I woul get the patience to keep explaning extremely simple concepts to someone like you who clearly cannot follow them! |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Phaymostip(m): 8:29pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Na waooo |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by theDEVILisHERE: 8:29pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: You should start by first asking what the TRUE! meaning of that word GOD is Most people keep calling this word but don't know its true meaning It is supposed to be an English word but it has no true meaning in English! English came from the roman, latin, german, greek languages but word GOD does not explicitly exist in those languages So now where did that word come from Note It is not a co-incidence that majority of the human population of the modern world have been brainwashed into constantly calling that word!!! |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by karkel(m): 8:29pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
kevoh:John 3:16 for God loved the world so much that he gave his begotten son,(then a condition was given for everlasting life for those that believe) for everyone exercising faith might not be destroyed but everlasting life.matt 20:28 just as the son of man came,not be ministered to,but to minister and to give his life as a ransom in exchange for many.what is ransom?The ideal of a ransom basically involves two things.first, a ransom is the price paid to release someone or to buy something back.secon,a ransom is the price that covers,or pays the cost of something.No human could pay for the damage that Adam did when he sinned ad brought death upon us.psalm 49:7,8 because all of us are imperfect. The ransom that had to be paid was another perfect human life.That is why it is called'' a corresponding ransom.(1 timothy26:6) that ransom had to have the same value as the life that Adam lost |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
KoloOyinbo:So how does denying the existence of that which can not be proved amount to faith? Is WHITE a type of BLACK? |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:32pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
theDEVILisHERE:There's no true meaning for GOD. Everyone just makes up nonsense in their head. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:34pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Atlantian:then they must b a special place for u in hell. Dear PROFESSOR I want u to know that jesus broke d law of gravity when he ascended into heaven...... Read ur bible bro |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by riddo2(m): 8:35pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
macof:you've cursed yourself forever and so shall it be |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by theDEVILisHERE: 8:39pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
dapipson: Of course not It was created But not by those entities you people are praying to But everything (and i mean EVERYTHING) started from nothing You are a creation and also a creator A creator is not greater than his/her creation cause he/she just harnessed energy to create cause everything is ENERGY! and everything is EVERYTHING |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by GooseBaba: 8:40pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Raziii: Hahaha..... Don't be delirious. Where did I tell you I worship anything. So to acknowledge your identity is now a bad thing.. ;DSee the results of indoctrination. What is enlightenment if I may ask? Who is Yahweh to the Israelites...? He is their traditional god. The stories in the bible is their traditional stories/history. And here you are, a bonified gentile speaking on behalf of an isrealite deity. And yes, we hear of miracles. Just like we hear of muhammad ascending to the sky. No big deal.. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by kurlz(f): 8:42pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
CaptainJune: Thanks for this. I love you. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by tobyemmanuel(m): 8:47pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Jesus died for me and resurrected on d 3rd day. Accept Him. You can't convince me. I pledge eternal allegiance to trinity |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Ripples334(m): 8:48pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
When one who is mortal tastes death (early or later) it's not a sacrifice. When an Immortal one tastes death (even for as short a time as three days) that's a sacrifice. The army officers fighting Boko Haram would eventually die- whether they had that battle to fight or not- but Jesus would never have died if He chose not to. I wonder why it's hard to believe that Jesus died, resurrected and ascended when these are co-truths in the same bible that tells of the creation of the earth, life, time and space? |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by micodon(m): 8:48pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Atlantian: And who told you that He ascended with a fleshly body? You doubt out of sheer ignorance |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by micodon(m): 8:50pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
theDEVILisHERE: The very science that has misled you says that something cannot come out of nothing |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Nobody: 8:53pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
micodon:But God can? Why add more mystery to mystery.. How much do you know about nature to determine it's unable to produce life without help from any external interference? |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by Malawian(m): 8:54pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
Atlantian:You are talking abt your GOD who made the universe and gave it its laws. Fear God!!! for your sake. |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by micodon(m): 8:54pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
GooseBaba: "the traditional story of Israel" said that 1. the Earth was hanging on nothing. 2. The Earth is a circle 3. Talked about the water circle of the earth All of these..... Tens of Centuries before science even began having wrong ideas. You need to be Smart and think for yourself |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by theDEVILisHERE: 8:55pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
sonOfLucifer: The word GOD is not nonsense It has a meaning a purpose for it's connotation (every significant word like that has a meaning!) But of course Those who gave it to you people will not let you know about the truth to it Remember That word was not in use till the modern age |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by mysteryman2014: 8:55pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
frank317: Can u suffer what he suffered in d flesh |
Re: How Is Jesus' Death A Sacrifice If He Rose From The Dead ? by bomijuwon(m): 8:56pm On Mar 28, 2016 |
[quote author=Atlantian post=37172172]It is all lies and control statements. Jesus never resurrected. No one goes into space with this body. Oxygen is not there at high altitude. How can his body survive without oxygen. I doubt the resurrection story 100%.[/ Your position is quite understandable, but remember, HIS conception remains mystery. However, no one understand a man except himself so also, no one understands a the spirit except one who is connected to the spirit. Believe it or not HE is Risen and He hast make all things new. HE has removed the veil the kept us from entering to the Holy of Holies. Now we can cry haha father...... |
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