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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by naijaboiy: 9:40am On Sep 03, 2015
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Nobody: 9:41am On Sep 03, 2015
corruption fights back or the govt is too weak to set up strong systems...
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Nobody: 9:44am On Sep 03, 2015
modath:

Corruption fights back is a crazy imagination of black people, corruption fights back cos the system is weak and can be manipulated!

Diezani popularized that crazy statement!!!!

Corruption should try to fight back in china.. undecided


China is 10 times more corrupt than nigeria.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by modath(f): 9:51am On Sep 03, 2015
chuna1985:



China is 10 times more corrupt than nigeria.

We know your type: Everything Na business.. angry
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by SuperMaq: 9:54am On Sep 03, 2015
The corrupt cannot honestly fight corruption. Corruption is not only looting. Accepting loots is also corruption. Falsifying documents to gain personal benefits is also corruption. So Mr President's hands are tied.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by freshdude99(m): 9:55am On Sep 03, 2015
modath:

Corruption fights back is a crazy imagination of black people, corruption fights back cos the system is weak and can be manipulated!

Diezani popularized that crazy statement!!!!

Corruption should try to fight back in china.. undecided
Sharraap dog
Leave diezani outta ur rant
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by paulchucks: 9:57am On Sep 03, 2015
if buhari want people to take him serious he should stop sectionalism and ethnicism and embrace all section of the country as a president for all he should stop selective probing and probe everyone found of corruption no matter where you come from then he will see support and fellowship
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by michaelorhue(m): 9:58am On Sep 03, 2015
Corruption fights backs because corruption is used to fight corruption.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by odomanis: 10:05am On Sep 03, 2015
HungerBAD:
IF only we knew that the entire world was watching us, we would have realised that it is too early to begin to derail the anti-graft war, which we all agreed upon a few months back.

This is the very nature of most wars – they start small like the proverbial madman’s fire, where he claims to have only struck a match here; but he knows nothing about the conflagration over there.

Except we act fast, the theatricals we see today are capable of many perhaps unintended consequences – our war against corruption is at risk; and our once-revered institution of the National Assembly may also be consumed.

At the higher echelon of our society, we see a grand design to start a scattered fight that will be raging in multiple fronts at the same time. The fight will be so scattered that it will become uncontrollable. The emerging scenario portends a frightening glimpse:

There is an alleged case of forgery of the Senate Rules against a section of the Senate leadership; The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, is questioning Mrs. Toyin Saraki, wife of the Senate President, over some stupendous wealth accumulation when her husband was the Governor of Kwara State; Senator Godswill Akpabio is currently being investigated by the EFCC over allegation of corruption while he was the Governor of Akwa-Ibom State.

Like the case of engineering the engineer instead of his engine, a petition against the EFCC boss, Ibrahim Lamorde, over corruption charges suddenly lands in the Senate. A fast probe is ordered into the petition; in a manner suggestive of people running away from an approaching tsunami; the Senate Committee starts hearing the petition and in the meantime, the Committee walks due process on its head.

This has irked some of the Senators and there is a big division in the ranks of the Senators. Suddenly, there is now an unholy alliance between Senator Akpabio with his group of PDP Senate Caucus on the one hand, and the Senate APC Unity Forum, on the other. The alliance is against the Senate Committee probe on Lamorde. And so suddenly, too, we see another very unholy alliance between Lamorde and Akpabio. Both men are now on the same page and a possible plan here could be some horse-trading on the Nation’s fortunes.

Apart from the fact that the petition against Lamorde failed the test of due process, it was like spitting into the mouth of a man who was already intent on vomiting. Apparently, Akpabio saw a window of opportunity in the ensuing confusion and built a connection supportive of the old aphorism that an enemy’s enemy is a friend – all in a conspiracy against Nigeria! The foregoing narrative is what we call rumble in the jungle.

These are politicians who are yet to know that it is not always smart to be smart. Nigeria must act quickly to stop the looming embezzlement of public trust. None of our fights against corruption shall be lost to intrigues!
For a start, Lamorde must step aside immediately to allow for proper investigation of the petition against him.

Again, Lamorde has ostensibly outstayed his welcome in the EFCC, having held sway since 23 November 2011. The point has been reached where he might even be unable to answer the supplementary questions. For instance, was this the same man under whom the EFCC went to sleep during the Jonathan era only to engage the speed gear as soon as Buhari came in? History shows no mercy for duplicity. His continued stay in the EFCC would clearly be a hindrance.

We must quickly shop for a no-nonsense replacement for him. This replacement shall be someone who understands the nature of the war before us and work as such – We must kill corruption before it kills us!
The Senate President, Senator Bukola Saraki, should have known that a conflict of interest situation was waiting by the corner to ambush him – sitting in judgment over the case of the man in whose hands was the case of corruption against his wife?
We question the rationale behind the Senate constituting itself into a court of first instance in the fight against corruption.

Evidently, the accusations against Lamorde are weighty enough to warrant thorough investigations. This is a case in which the Chief Executive Officer, Panic Alert Security System, PASS, Dr. George Uboh, is alleging that Lamorde failed to remit over N2.051 trillion recovered by the anti-graft agency between 2004 and 2013 to the federation account. Uboh also speaks of the diversion of another sum of more than N1 trillion by the EFCC.

Uboh’s petition should be sent to where it rightly belongs – the EFCC, an EFCC without Lamorde. The undue haste with which the Senate Committee on Ethics, Privileges and Public Petitions went into the matter bespeaks the Committee as acting out a script that had been written elsewhere. Still more ludicrous, and indeed nauseating, is the fact that a particular Senator who appeared more like a back-man, and stayed glued, to Mrs. Saraki during her visit to the EFCC is now in the frontline of Lamorde’s prosecution (or persecution?) in the “Senate court”.

Where is justice coming from?In the particular case of the Senate Minority Leader, Senator Akpabio, the EFCC is investigating him on series of petitions by the Abuja-based Law Firm of Leo Ekpenyong and Associates, alleging that while he was the Governor of Akwa-Ibom State, he abused his office by stealing public funds from which he built sprawling estates in many parts of the country.

In this apparent rumble in the jungle, nothing shall be left to chance. Every case must be religiously prosecuted!
Lest we forget, Uboh’s conclusion is instructive: “If I am right, arrest Lamorde; and if I am wrong arrest me”.

We are reminded that it is not a crime to render service to one’s fatherland. Those false alarmists out there whose stock-in-trade is to deliberately smear others who serve their people must also be adequately punished.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/rumble-in-the-jungle-as-corruption-fights-back/
Under Buhari/APC government:80% appointment to the North,20% appointment to the South. 90% EFCC harassment to the South, 10% EFCC harassment to the North. CHANGE !!!!

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by maestroferddi: 10:06am On Sep 03, 2015
Corruption is:

1. When you ride on the goodwill of Nigerians to get power promising heaven and earth only to unashamedly initiate serial denials less than 100 days in office.

2. When you jettison the federal character principle and instead adopt brazen nepotism/tribalism as the thrust of government.

3. When you refuse to follow the constitutional proviso that a suspect is deemed innocent until proved guilty but instead choose to deploy a partisan media trial.

4. Your decision to halt/suspend the institutions of government by governing the country as a sole administrator.

5. When you are too short-sighted to see that Nigeria belongs to all of us and not only APC and northern cabals.

6. When your fight on corruption is so selective that it is becoming embarrassing.

7. You have a worrying fixation on the media-propelled fight on corruption while the delivery of the dividends of democracy, the overarching objective for which you got the mandate takes the back seat.

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by IbokUtoroh(m): 10:06am On Sep 03, 2015
seunmsg:



"If we as citizens can support him by rising above the usual ethnic and religious attachments we have for leaders from our areas who mostly don't even care about us, am very sure the country will start getting things right". This is from the post you quoted and it should answer your question.
bobo support or no support, he has 4yrs mandate. He just gotten 2.5billion loan from world bank so he shud start work.
We down south we r sensible, so we no get wahala with abuja politics. D fears am having for him is from d sophisticated region, cos once d tide is against them, they will unleash their propaganda machinery upon him n occupy strategic positions in form of protest all being sponsored by politicians.
Tell him to start work, abi we dey disrupt him?
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by arigold1304(m): 10:12am On Sep 03, 2015
PMB work with what you have on ground and be the change we want to see.......PMB,EFCC chasing shadow since 100days of office......PMB Best way to fight corruption is to amend the constitution which is the Godfather of the corruption which you are in..........
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by lastmessenger: 10:22am On Sep 03, 2015
that woman gives up sleepless night. remember that the lord of corruption ibb is sleeping in his house untouched.
modath:

Corruption fights back is a crazy imagination of black people, corruption fights back cos the system is weak and can be manipulated!

Diezani popularized that crazy statement!!!!

Corruption should try to fight back in china.. undecided
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Nobody: 10:34am On Sep 03, 2015
seunmsg:



In the case of Nigeria, it will take a strong willed president to build that strong institutions Obama talked about. We have too many fault lines as a country so any president that make attempt to do things right will easily get drowned by those who benefit from the current system by quickly activating the fault lines.

That's why it is pertinent for most patriotic Nigerians to support the PMB's administration. He has shown so far that he has the strong will to fight corruption and take on those bigots who are benefiting from the current system. With the presidents strong will and support of Nigerians, we can start building the strong institutions that are necessary to make our country work.

How strong willed is he to fight corruption? Charity begins at home. If he starts with those first in his camp or from IBB who institutionalized corruption, then nobody will fight back. We will be evrly so happy to even see Jonathan being probed

As stated by IbokUtoroh in 2015 AD and I quote

IbokUtoroh:

the more u defend fashola, tinubu, buhari, oshiomole, el rufai, kwankwaso, amaechi, rochas, aregberascal etc, we go also de defend our own period.

Amaechi na saint, akpabio na pope.
If u dont like it, commit suicide.
We r wailing for a just course, for a better nigeria.
Una dey masturbate n lie for una stomach.
When will buhari declare his assets?

This is what will happen when you are one sided and don't have the strong will for an all out war on corruption
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Nobody: 10:35am On Sep 03, 2015
oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
1. He's new into the system and due to the reluctant of the last administration to deliver handover note to the administration is also key to the slow start
2. And to fight corruption you need strong fact and evidence so as not to waste public fund on unrealistic cases. I think that's one of the major reasons why we ain't hearing much this time
3. Our major source of income generation has dropped over 400% so he has to make use of the little we are generating. It's hard time for the FG at this time, so let's be patient.
4. Before now, the federal character has being followed but it has failed us tremendously because the person who is appointing don't even know his appointees too well. If you become Ng president today and you want to honestly appoint some key appointments and you want honest people and (for instance) you being residing in SW since birth, you are most likely going to appoint more people in the SW cux u don't people in other zones except they are recommending them to you.

Thank God they are expecting much from the President now. We were not expecting anything from the Ex President, that's POSITIVE
u reason well sir!
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Flets: 10:39am On Sep 03, 2015
Enough of this noise around fight against corruption. Without an iota of doubt, the current govt has already failed in the issue of corruption fight.

The first failure was Buhari's refusal to declare his assets as promised. Reneging on one's promise is corruption

Denying one's campaign promises is the height of corruption.

Besides, any efforts to fight corruption without strong systems have failed before it started.

With biometric registeration, GEJ eliminated 65,000 ghost workers from the Fed Civil Service. If this was Buhari, he would attempt to arrest and probe 65,000 people without success

Until we focus on systems and institutions, we've not started.

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by franudi: 10:40am On Sep 03, 2015
HungerBAD:
IF only we knew that the entire world was watching us, we would have realised that it is too early to begin to derail the anti-graft war, which we all agreed upon a few months back.

This is the very nature of most wars – they start small like the proverbial madman’s fire, where he claims to have only struck a match here; but he knows nothing about the conflagration over there.

Except we act fast, the theatricals we see today are capable of many perhaps unintended consequences – our war against corruption is at risk; and our once-revered institution of the National Assembly may also be consumed.

At the higher echelon of our society, we see a grand design to start a scattered fight that will be raging in multiple fronts at the same time. The fight will be so scattered that it will become uncontrollable. The emerging scenario portends a frightening glimpse:

There is an alleged case of forgery of the Senate Rules against a section of the Senate leadership; The Economic and Financial Crimes Commission, EFCC, is questioning Mrs. Toyin Saraki, wife of the Senate President, over some stupendous wealth accumulation when her husband was the Governor of Kwara State; Senator Godswill Akpabio is currently being investigated by the EFCC over allegation of corruption while he was the Governor of Akwa-Ibom State.

Like the case of engineering the engineer instead of his engine, a petition against the EFCC boss, Ibrahim Lamorde, over corruption charges suddenly lands in the Senate. A fast probe is ordered into the petition; in a manner suggestive of people running away from an approaching tsunami; the Senate Committee starts hearing the petition and in the meantime, the Committee walks due process on its head.

This has irked some of the Senators and there is a big division in the ranks of the Senators. Suddenly, there is now an unholy alliance between Senator Akpabio with his group of PDP Senate Caucus on the one hand, and the Senate APC Unity Forum, on the other. The alliance is against the Senate Committee probe on Lamorde. And so suddenly, too, we see another very unholy alliance between Lamorde and Akpabio. Both men are now on the same page and a possible plan here could be some horse-trading on the Nation’s fortunes.

Apart from the fact that the petition against Lamorde failed the test of due process, it was like spitting into the mouth of a man who was already intent on vomiting. Apparently, Akpabio saw a window of opportunity in the ensuing confusion and built a connection supportive of the old aphorism that an enemy’s enemy is a friend – all in a conspiracy against Nigeria! The foregoing narrative is what we call rumble in the jungle.

These are politicians who are yet to know that it is not always smart to be smart. Nigeria must act quickly to stop the looming embezzlement of public trust. None of our fights against corruption shall be lost to intrigues!
For a start, Lamorde must step aside immediately to allow for proper investigation of the petition against him.

Again, Lamorde has ostensibly outstayed his welcome in the EFCC, having held sway since 23 November 2011. The point has been reached where he might even be unable to answer the supplementary questions. For instance, was this the same man under whom the EFCC went to sleep during the Jonathan era only to engage the speed gear as soon as Buhari came in? History shows no mercy for duplicity. His continued stay in the EFCC would clearly be a hindrance.

We must quickly shop for a no-nonsense replacement for him. This replacement shall be someone who understands the nature of the war before us and work as such – We must kill corruption before it kills us!
The Senate President, Senator Bukola Saraki, should have known that a conflict of interest situation was waiting by the corner to ambush him – sitting in judgment over the case of the man in whose hands was the case of corruption against his wife?
We question the rationale behind the Senate constituting itself into a court of first instance in the fight against corruption.

Evidently, the accusations against Lamorde are weighty enough to warrant thorough investigations. This is a case in which the Chief Executive Officer, Panic Alert Security System, PASS, Dr. George Uboh, is alleging that Lamorde failed to remit over N2.051 trillion recovered by the anti-graft agency between 2004 and 2013 to the federation account. Uboh also speaks of the diversion of another sum of more than N1 trillion by the EFCC.

Uboh’s petition should be sent to where it rightly belongs – the EFCC, an EFCC without Lamorde. The undue haste with which the Senate Committee on Ethics, Privileges and Public Petitions went into the matter bespeaks the Committee as acting out a script that had been written elsewhere. Still more ludicrous, and indeed nauseating, is the fact that a particular Senator who appeared more like a back-man, and stayed glued, to Mrs. Saraki during her visit to the EFCC is now in the frontline of Lamorde’s prosecution (or persecution?) in the “Senate court”.

Where is justice coming from?In the particular case of the Senate Minority Leader, Senator Akpabio, the EFCC is investigating him on series of petitions by the Abuja-based Law Firm of Leo Ekpenyong and Associates, alleging that while he was the Governor of Akwa-Ibom State, he abused his office by stealing public funds from which he built sprawling estates in many parts of the country.

In this apparent rumble in the jungle, nothing shall be left to chance. Every case must be religiously prosecuted!
Lest we forget, Uboh’s conclusion is instructive: “If I am right, arrest Lamorde; and if I am wrong arrest me”.

We are reminded that it is not a crime to render service to one’s fatherland. Those false alarmists out there whose stock-in-trade is to deliberately smear others who serve their people must also be adequately punished.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/09/rumble-in-the-jungle-as-corruption-fights-back/
Buhari himself is corrupt, so he cannot fight corruption.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by spinoff: 10:43am On Sep 03, 2015
modath:

Corruption fights back is a crazy imagination of black people, corruption fights back cos the system is weak and can be manipulated!

Diezani popularized that crazy statement!!!!

Corruption should try to fight back in china.. undecided
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by dokyOloye: 10:48am On Sep 03, 2015
IbokUtoroh:

it requires policies..... As simple as abc.
Why do bankers dont steal?
Even when they r exposed to so much monies. Why not replicate that same reforms in corporate banking world to public n civil service?
You see its very simple, unless u dont want to do it.
GEJ tried so much in that respect,d IPPIS salary payment system and d e-wallet fertiliser distribution scheeme come to mind.
I am a personal witness to d goodness of d IPPIS scheme cos it reduced d incidence of ghost workers and d CMDs of federal health institutions were forced to massively employ ppl(yours truly included) to fill d gaps of d fictitious names they hitherto padded d payroll wt.
God bless GEJ and Okonji-iweala.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by IYANGBALI: 10:53am On Sep 03, 2015
modath:

Corruption fights back is a crazy imagination of black people, corruption fights back cos the system is weak and can be manipulated!

Diezani popularized that crazy statement!!!!

Corruption should try to fight back in china.. undecided
for china?you wann make dem hang corruption ni?corruption fear china pass death o,na only in Nigeria corruption dey do yanga and dey born shedrens like vickyrotex,eleko1,rokiatu,bukola saraki,akpabio and co
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by persius555(m): 10:57am On Sep 03, 2015
I remember the days of nuhu ribadu's efcc, somehow those powers fought back. The same scenario is playing out now. How i wish we could send these people to china.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Nobody: 11:00am On Sep 03, 2015
one thing a lot of people dont realise is the obvious "limitations of western-style democracy" operating in an underdeveloped country like ours bedevilled by weak institutions, religious bigots, ethnic prejudice and isatiable apetite for greed most especially by the ruling class. even if jesus is at the helms of affairs in this country but as long as our orientations remain the same, we will still be hovering in a state of social-economic hopellesness.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by shaqhead: 11:06am On Sep 03, 2015
TheFreeOne:


Fighting corruption requires strong institutions not strong leadership. Buhari hasn't done anything than taking glory for Gej works except you considers "BODY LANGUAGE" an achievement.

Its ironic for Buhari to expect nigerians support in rejecting ethnic/religious bias when he's a master of the game.
Nope..i beg to disagree with you..actually strong institutions are a product of strong leadership then over TIME such institutions take on a life of their own. Have we had such strong leadership?

We dont have strong institutions because we most times have had square pegs in round holes, weak leaders who fan to death positions they are saddles with. An example wl suffice; When I say NAFDAC, one name pops to ur head-late DORA AKUNYILI. Why? She was a strong leader who did a good job when she headed that body and she brought to our collective consciousness the work that that body does or rather shd b doin. Her stellar performance has now become a template benchmark for her successors which we now and will always refer to. Imagine a "Dora" in 50% of governmental positions and u wl appreciate d place of strong leadership which unwittingly birthes strong institutions ! Why was a Fowler brought to head an FIRS?

What if the EFCC under Ribadu hadnt bn derailed by executive puppet strings? I guess we would have had a better foothold in the fight against corruption. PMB wl have to do somtn about that Lamorde!

The US president or leaders of other advanced democracies can conveniently talk about strong institutions, foundations for such institutions which u and I kno they ddnt build. Their strong institutions were a product of d sweat and blood of their foundin fathers wc has bn consolidated upon over time by succesive leadership.

For u to jst assume that strong institutions are self creationist jst becos there are policies in place doesnt add up!

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by cecegorz(m): 11:10am On Sep 03, 2015
oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
1. He's new into the system and due to the reluctant of the last administration to deliver handover note to the administration is also key to the slow start
2. And to fight corruption you need strong fact and evidence so as not to waste public fund on unrealistic cases. I think that's one of the major reasons why we ain't hearing much this time
3. Our major source of income generation has dropped over 400% so he has to make use of the little we are generating. It's hard time for the FG at this time, so let's be patient.
4. Before now, the federal character has being followed but it has failed us tremendously because the person who is appointing don't even know his appointees too well. If you become Ng president today and you want to honestly appoint some key appointments and you want honest people and (for instance) you being residing in SW since birth, you are most likely going to appoint more people in the SW cux u don't people in other zones except they are recommending them to you.

Thank God they are expecting much from the President now. We were not expecting anything from the Ex President, that's POSITIVE

The emboldened is the reason why you are better off as your village baale, and not contesting for a post outside your enclave.
Before you put out yourself to be the President of a multi-ethnic, multi cultural and a diverse entity like Nigeria, you must have gone out of your way to get acquainted with all the regions in depth. Besides you have a party structure through which you won elections in all the various wards and local governments of the entire country.
You can't excuse little-mindedness

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by Candybob(m): 11:15am On Sep 03, 2015
All that we want Buhari and C0 to do is declare their asset publicly!
Until he does that, his anti-corruption posture means nothing!

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Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by alabiyemmy(m): 11:15am On Sep 03, 2015
oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
1. He's new into the system and due to the reluctant of the last administration to deliver handover note to the administration is also key to the slow start
2. And to fight corruption you need strong fact and evidence so as not to waste public fund on unrealistic cases. I think that's one of the major reasons why we ain't hearing much this time
3. Our major source of income generation has dropped over 400% so he has to make use of the little we are generating. It's hard time for the FG at this time, so let's be patient.
4. Before now, the federal character has being followed but it has failed us tremendously because the person who is appointing don't even know his appointees too well. If you become Ng president today and you want to honestly appoint some key appointments and you want honest people and (for instance) you being residing in SW since birth, you are most likely going to appoint more people in the SW cux u don't people in other zones except they are recommending them to you.

Thank God they are expecting much from the President now. We were not expecting anything from the Ex President, that's POSITIVE

Rubbish of the highest order.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by eph12(m): 11:17am On Sep 03, 2015
oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
1. He's new into the system and due to the reluctant of the last administration to deliver handover note to the administration is also key to the slow start
Yeah we all know this. Tinubu told us baba/APC needs 100 days of honeymoon.

oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
2. And to fight corruption you need strong fact and evidence so as not to waste public fund on unrealistic cases. I think that's one of the major reasons why we ain't hearing much this time
So if there are no facts or evidence why the allegations in the press? Why is Oshomole our finance minister running his mouth? I believe he said US gave him a list so what other evidence is greater than this?

oismail:
Fighting corruption is one of the hardest things to do especially when you are new into the system.
People are just 'antagonising' PMB administration for nothing without taking certain things into consideration
4. Before now, the federal character has being followed but it has failed us tremendously because the person who is appointing don't even know his appointees too well. If you become Ng president today and you want to honestly appoint some key appointments and you want honest people and (for instance) you being residing in SW since birth, you are most likely going to appoint more people in the SW cux u don't people in other zones except they are recommending them to you.
But when he wanted to campaign he had friends and people he can relate with from other region right?
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by shaqhead: 11:21am On Sep 03, 2015
chuna1985:



China is 10 times more corrupt than nigeria.
Really? How could u possibly make such bold comparative analytic assertion without empirical facts?

Anywy lets say I agree even witout facts, u will agree dt they are doin 10 times more in the fight against corruption.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by TheFreeOne: 11:30am On Sep 03, 2015
shaqhead:

Nope..i beg to disagree with you..actually strong institutions are a product of strong leadership then over TIME such institutions take on a life of their own. Have we had such strong leadership?

We dont have strong institutions because we most times have had square pegs in round holes, weak leaders who fan to death positions they are saddles with. An example wl suffice; When I say NAFDAC, one name pops to ur head-late DORA AKUNYILI. Why? She was a strong leader who did a good job when she headed that body and she brought to our collective consciousness the work that that body does or rather shd b doin. Her stellar performance has now become a template benchmark for her successors which we now and will always refer to. Imagine a "Dora" in 50% of governmental positions and u wl appreciate d place of strong leadership which unwittingly birthes strong institutions ! Why was a Fowler brought to head an FIRS?

What if the EFCC under Ribadu hadnt bn derailed by executive puppet strings? I guess we would have had a better foothold in the fight against corruption. PMB wl have to do somtn about that Lamorde!

The US president or leaders of other advanced democracies can conveniently talk about strong institutions, foundations for such institutions which u and I kno they ddnt build. Their strong institutions were a product of d sweat and blood of their foundin fathers wc has bn consolidated upon over time by succesive leadership.

For u to jst assume that strong institutions are self creationist jst becos there are policies in place doesnt add up!

Having strong men or men of muscle is of no use in the long run without strong institutions. Strong men/politicians haven't brought any positive change to Nigeria and if American founding fathers built strong institutions what stops buhari doing same instead of assuming Hercules.

Our laws and punishment meted out on crimes should be critically looked-into hence my unflinching support for restructuring of this country as proposed in the NATIONAL CONFERENCE RECOMMENDATIONS for a total positive change.
Re: Rumble In The Jungle As Corruption Fights Back- The Vanguard by maddock(m): 11:42am On Sep 03, 2015
IbokUtoroh:

what should i term u?
U mean a president in nigeria dont knw people from other regions, n u think u making sense?
What s d concept of building alliances, why seek those regions vote when u knw you dont knw any credible people from that region?
Before election apc when d head is okay d rest of the body will be okay no matter how bad d body is, why change concept now? We still hv police men extorting money from motorist everywhr, most times i querry d drivers for giving them n they will laugh at me. The head is now okay but nothing has change with d body, u guys thought once buhari enters everything will fall back in place, but reverse is d case.
33 out of 36 ministerial nominees fails screening, but buhari na strongman na, the present kingkong of africa, he will tame any corrupt politician,,,, y him no employ them n tame them?

Go and sit down jare. So because he is the president he is supposed to know everybody in the whole of the country? The people that are supposed to make recommendations to him are the same people we are reading about issues of corruption and mismanagement of public funds on a daily basis in the media. So what is he supposed to do approach PDP to nominate for him? Knowing people and vouching for what people can do are two different things. Is it everybody you know you can sign a letter of undertaking for? When we criticise we should do so with common sense. The major problem Jonathan had was because of two many people bringing in their loyalist to hiss government. So at the end of the day instead of them being loyal the president, they look up to their godfathers. If we continue in that same line I bet you, nothing would change in this nation.

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