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| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:28am On Oct 24, 2006 |
The 'Noble' Koran and Muhammad.Mhammeds book of fables. He couldn't even pass an open book exam [b]1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=  Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction.2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression. 3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression. 4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact. 5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact. 6. The Trinity: According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. This shows the influence of heretical 'Christian' sects in central Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In contrast, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The teaching of the Quran on the Trinity has undoubtedly led to confusion among many Muslims on what the Bible (and thus Christianity) teaches about the Triune God. 7. Mary: According to the Quran (Surah 19:28, 3:33-36), Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Imran or Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron. Mary is also said to be the sister of Moses and Aaron. Clearly Muhammad confused Mary with Miriam. A second interesting point about Mary is the story of the date palm speaking and offering its fruit to her (Surah 19:23). This legend is easily traced to similar legends found in the apocryphal "Protoevangelium of James" the "Pseudo-Matthew" and "the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary" all of which have been dated to the fourth to sixth centuries, and were again believed by the sects found in Arabia. (More indepth information on Quranic sources may be found in Rev. W. St. Clair Tisdall's The Religion of the Crescent). 8. Textual Variants in the Quran: Many Muslims claim that the Quran today is identical to the revelations received by Muhammad. However, there is overwhelming unanswered evidence to the contrary. This includes evidence of variations both prior to, and after Uthman. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------[/b] |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:35am On Oct 24, 2006 |
The religion of 'peace' versus the Prince of peace, Christ the savior. allah and mohammed say: (Surah 4:103-) Seek out your enemies relentlessly. (Surah 2:216) Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. (Surah 8:12-) Believers, when you encounter the infidels on the march, do not turn your backs to them in flight. If anyone on that day turns his back to them, except it be for tactical reasons, he shall incur the wrath of God and Hell shall be his home, (Surah 9:12-) ", make war on the leaders of unbelief, Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them, " (Surah 9:27-) Fight against such as those to whom the Scriptures were given [Jews and Christians], until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued. (Surah 9:73) Prophet make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home But the Word of God, the Bible, teaches us, Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you; Proverbs 24:17 Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth Proverbs 25:21 If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink Matthew 6:14 For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: 15 But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. It is the child of God's responsibility to forgive his enemies and show forth the love of Jesus Christ. Islam takes away God's authority to rule with justness, Romans 12:19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. The children of God are called not to avenge or war against others. Judgment belongs to God. But the child of God is called to be , Galations 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, 20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, 21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. 22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. God clearly speaks against warring against our enemies. To be longsuffering is to tolerate our enemies, it is to suffer inwardly for a long period of time, praying and hoping that they will repent and be saved. This is the very message which God brought to us through His Son, Jesus Christ, 2Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Dear reader, here we have a very serious confliction between what God has spoken and what Muhammad has spoken. Do the above verses of the Word of God line up with Muhammad's Koran when Muhammad tells us "make war on the leaders of unbelief, Make war on them, " -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Herein have been only a few major contradictions. If God is God, and if God is infallible, inerrant, and unchanging, we must either discount the false prophet Muhammad and look toward God, or we must accept the single writing of Muhammad and discount the entire Bible. But the problem for Islam is that the Bible proves itself to be the divinely inspired written Word of God. To see the divine authority of the Word of God, the Bible, check out the following links, The Lord Gave the Word: A study in the history of the text of the Bible http://biz.ukonline.co.uk/trinitarian.bible.society/articles/watts.htm Proofs of God: Prophecy is Proof of God http://www.daveandangel.com/CRN/BibleProofs.html And remember, Jesus Christ is the ONLY way to be saved, John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:37am On Oct 24, 2006 |
is anyone still bothering to give answers to babs787's questions? Is it not the usual islamic tendency to couch biblical "contradictions" in an unintelligible slew of words that make very difficult reading? How can babs787 honestly expect an answer to his "contradictions" when he posts 101 AT THE SAME TIME? Is it not common sense that he allows each to be treated one after the other? No he cannot do that for that would simply expose those "contradictions" for what they are; mere attempts by a confused soul grasping at just about any available straws to bring the bible to the same level as that idolatrous manual for murder and intolerance called the quran! Reading through his boring list indicates either a predilection for mischief, mental laziness in understanding the bible in a contextual sense rather than running away with a few words that allegedly don't seem to make sense or plain ignorance! Where are the likes of Ajia23 and Firdaus4them? Where is Mallam Belloti who started the laughable idea of peddling that Island of hedonistic idealism called Jaanat? What of Olabowale, the shameless old man who would rather rape 6 yr olds and place his daughters in hoods of bondage in the name of a fraud erroneously regarded as a "faith"? |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:44am On Oct 24, 2006 |
They must be feasting on rams and goats by now lol 'allah is indeed merciful' |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:45am On Oct 24, 2006 |
When Babs787 gleefully parades his obviously copied 101 contradictions in the bible, is he aware of the elementary errors in his own quran? Can he boldly claim that Allah knows with what he created his slaves? a. dust b. sperm dot. c. blood clot d. clay e. nothing f. all of the above What of the earth? Is it, a. flat b. a tent pegged down by mountains? Where does the sun set? a. muddy spring b. mohammed's bedroom? Where really do muslims face when they pray? a. east b. the sun c. Is the direction of the east the same for an American, Japanese and Ethiopian muslim? Is 8/7 equal to 1? |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 2:52am On Oct 24, 2006 |
As for the direction they face,that one is so funny,those in the east still face east,aren't they allowed to ask questions? why did Mohammed start by facing Jerusalem then changed to mecca? well, an ex muslim said Islam is like the proverbial Hotel California,you can check in but when you decide to check out,you may leave without a head because allah says my way or no head. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by olabowale(m): 4:26am On Oct 24, 2006 |
@Babyosisi: Your hatred of Islam, must have created such a blinding rage in you, so much so, that everything Islam must be creating an 'emotional distaster' for you. I understand the foolishness of your compatriots, but you even began to surpass them in blatant disregard for honesty! How do you cook up the lies that you are spewing about your Creator (At least, as an Igbo woman, you will not deny that He is Chineke. Yet, to the English people or the Jews, Chineke means nothing to them). Try speaking the truth, sometimes. I thought if you are ignored, long enough, you may come to your senses. I can understand your brothers, who are drenching in pure arrogance, failing to realise that arrogance is the core of disaster! They present their argument without logic and practical application. I guess, it is safe to have 'blind faith.' I bet their response to me on this entry will be pure vulgarity. Their arguments, maybe as the result of the 'blind faith', are always filled in with, in part unfounded accusations, or reanting and raving in verbal abuse or using of infantile icons. Instead of standing up and be grownups, these people provide me and others 'comic relief' with their entries. They often write as if they are sounding off, acting as if they are in a boxing match, looking for that one knockout punch. But you can see that they are like professional wrestlers, creative, but full of illusion, pure and simple. If I have not made a conscious decision not to ever respond to them, I have a lot to say about their weak arguments; Is it very difficult for the Lord of the World, Who created all things from nothingness and without prior example and then created Adam, without prior existence of Human. From Adam, He created his mate. From these two a range of people, in different hues. (He was at some time, before creation was alone, neither wary nor lonely). Tell me, is it so difficult to creat a man from the body of a woman, alone by the same Creator? When that Creator has created the same type of fatherless being in the ant/termite kingdom (Please note that the worker ant/soldier of the ant/termite colony is hatched from unfertilized/without the male sperm or semen added to the egg). You know that the Fertility clinics are nowadays, capable of producing babies, without sexual intercourse. Even they have experimented on using the manipulation of the genes, to engage in production, eg the 'Dolly' lamb! Babyosisi, falacy is not a means of winning any point, in the real sense of it. Whether, you or the rest of the world like it or not, Allah has decided the matter. Islam is going to be victorious. The altimate victory will be in the day of Judgement. We are are all seeking the mercy of God. It it will benefit you to have answers to your questions, then I will answer every one of them. However, what kind of benefit is there for you since you have your heart so locked up in the Triune concept of god! Even though jesus prayed to his Lord. That tells you that God is separate and different from jesus. When jesus said that his God and the God of those who asked him about god is but One God! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 4:48am On Oct 24, 2006 |
As usual blind hate, ignorance, prejudice, inability to comprehend arguments and spiritual blindness has forced you to type out a long diatribe that has no relevance to the issue being discussed. olabowale: First sir, which "creator" are you hallucinating over here? That idol who has no ears to hear and eyes to see? Since when did the word Chineke become compatible with one of the hundreds of idols worshipped by ancient pagan arabs? Which lies did Babyosisi tell? The direct quotes she took from that manual of spiritual destruction called the quran? Which truth? The lies you have developed itching ears to and are heaping teachers to yourselves for? olabowale: Before you start hyperventilating and pulling the wool over your own eyes in the bid to defend a clueless idol, there is but one definition for the "lord of the worlds" in my bible - he is known as the prince of perdition! The question was direct - with what did Allah create man? Sperm dot, dust, clay, water, nothing? Rather than being objective, you choose to obfuscate matters hoping to deflect such blatant contradictions by appealing to human science! Fertility clinics yes now create embryos outside the womb but the science is still the same!!! They are yet to create an embryo from NOTHING!!! As for Dolly the lamb, it is hopeless trying to teach you the science of cloning, you have consistently proven to be hard of hearing, NOT apt to teach and insistent on glorifying ignorance!!! For your info, Dolly is created by replacing the nucleus containing DNA from a newly fertilized embryo with the nucleus from a somatic cell from the adult cell donor!!! It is basically the same science, sperm + egg = embryo!!! Where in the world is an egg "fertilized" without sperm? Must only occur in the Olabowale realm of scientific foolishness! And what have ants and termites to do with Allah's seeming inability to accurately recollect how he formed his slaves? |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Bobbyaf(m): 5:57am On Oct 24, 2006 |
At the end of the day what would have been accomplished by both christians and moslems, if we continue to argue back and forth like this? Christ once said: "Ye are the light of the world" Light is light, and once a person possesses the light of God in his life, will it be naturally seen? Of course! Can you say, be you moslem or christian that you are an embassador of God's truth? Of His light? Let every man examine himself. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 6:01am On Oct 24, 2006 |
very little is also achieved by those who "refuse to argue back and forth" but rather choose to toe the line of "spiritual correctness by burying their heads in the sand. Christ FLOGGED those found buying and selling in the temple, he was not sheepishly begging them to leave on his knees! The bible admonishes to RESIST the devil and he will flee from you. You do not resist by applying zero force! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by olabowale(m): 12:16pm On Oct 24, 2006 |
@Bobbyaf: Thank you. Let everyone examine himself or herself. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by olabowale(m): 1:07pm On Oct 24, 2006 |
I major uniqueness of The Deity, apart and different from His Creations, is that God has no beginning nor ending. This simply means as He has qualified Himself, that He was before any and all of His Creations. He was no conceived, nor did He conceive any. All are His creations! God tells Muhammad (AS), in the Qur'an, that he should say to mankind, specifically those that associate offsprings with the All Unique, that if there have been an Offspring from God, Muhammad (AS), would have been the first to worship him. The sentence, in itself is very clear. It has shown negation of any likeliness of such a possibility! God says in the Qur'an that do people not see that Juseus (AS) and his mother are ordinary mortals, needing daily foods and sustenants, like every one? Read Suratul Al maidah and Mariam in the Qur'an about Jesus (AS) and his mother. Somebody alluded to Ezra (AS), as he has been described in the Qur'an. This person, does not know that the description is true, in the sense that the Jews call him honorarium son of God. But not as the blatant and outright concept of christians' (the calling of Jesus son of God, yet in the real sense of it, it means the same thing, since this is forging a lie against their Creator!). It is true that God is capable of going all things. However, He restricts Himself and does not do the things which do not fit His Majesty. Some of those things are that He comes out of the canal of a being, like in helplessness of a new born. He does not have to walk the surface of the earth to understand His creations. He knows all of His creations, sees and hears each and everyone, individually and can accept, therefore answer the petitions, even if all are to gather together and petition Him at the same time! Those who claim that God (Allah, the Almighty), can not see, hear and therefore can reach them, these are the inmate of Hell. There they will live forever. Afterall, some people deserve to go to Hell anyway. A well known example is Pharaoh who drwoned in the sea. Jibril related the story to Muhammad (AS). Jibril said that when this tyrant saw the reality of his evil ways, he now began to declare his faith in Allah, (tThe God of Moses and Aroon). However, Jibril began to pack the mud of the bottom of that sea into Pharaoh's mouth, not allowing him to make that proper declaration. God then said that Pharaoh body will be saved for the future generations to see. Today, if you ask any anthropologists, any who know anything about the history of Egypt, you will clearly learn that the body pf that Pharaoh is available in Egypt for all to see!Such is the power of God, unique in all His descriptive attributes. However, never did He once, directly or indirectly call Himself father of any person or that anyone is His offspring. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Aggressa(m): 2:08pm On Oct 24, 2006 |
[quote =26125.msg671785#msg671785 date=1161691632] Afterall, some people deserve to go to Hell anyway. A well known example is Pharaoh who drowned in the sea. Jibril related the story to Muhammad (AS). Jibril said that when this tyrant saw the reality of his evil ways, he now began to declare his faith in Allah, (the God of Moses and Aroon). However, Jibril began to pack the mud of the bottom of that sea into Pharaoh's mouth, not allowing him to make that proper declaration. God then said that Pharaoh body will be saved for the future generations to see.[quote][/quote] @Davidylan/Babyosisi, As ludicrous as it is, I really don't give a hoot at any attempt to gain credibility for the 'peaceful' quran by plagiarising stories from the bible, afterall the truth has revealed itself. But plagiarism is one of the dumbest things to do, and some prophets can't even do that properly without exposing their inherent confabulations and wickedness. Look at the highlighted statement in the quotation above, now compare it to the story of the dying thief who decided to submit his life to the Lord right on the cross and received redemption from the Lord. Another suporting evidence that this 'allah' is DEFINITELY NOT the I AM THAT I AM, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who introduced Himself to Moses in the desert. It will take 'electroconvulsive therapy' prayers to open some minds, but the holy spirit is more than capable. Dont give up  . |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 3:20pm On Oct 24, 2006 |
 I cant but laugh at the utter folly of spiritually blind individuals! @ Olabowale, you cut the pitiful figure of a man being led astray in spiritual bondage, held captive by that idol/demon who has succeeded in hardening your hearts against the Lord Jesus Christ that made you and I! Listen to yourself!! olabowale: The body of which pharaoh? Where is his body? Have you and Mohammed found it in the deserts of Egypt? Did you perchance find Jibril's mud in his mouth?  olabowale: This indeed is one wicked and arrogant "god" that i do not wish too have anything to do with! He feels too big to walk on the surface of the earth he created for his slaves! He can never be seen even in that hedonistic Islamic fantasy of Las Vegas, he does not feel what his slaves feel, cannot see nor hear them and chooses when to listen to them and when to take a long journey! Can you contrast Jibril's action to that of my God who saved a dying thief on the cross? It is not the nature of my God to prevent a man from confessing HIM as HIS Lord and Saviour! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by olabowale(m): 9:20pm On Oct 24, 2006 |
@Babyosisi; I read your entry, which was register fot today's 2.28.29 am. Therein you raised the following issues; 1. Time to take to creat: You alluded to 4+2+2=8. It is as if you state that God is not capable of doing more that one thing at the same time. You forgot that Allah, the All powerful has the power to creat as soon as He decees a thing; All He says is "Be", and it is. You need to know about creation, God said that He created in Six days. (Surah A'raf (7;54)). 2. Crucifixion as means of punishment by pharaoh: Is it not true that the the babylonian (Modern day Iraq), was where Ibrahiim came from. It is not true that Ibrahiim era was earlier than the era of Musa. It it not true that if the babylonian used this method that it was already known to people before the 'Pharaoh' usage of it to punish those magicians who he thought made him and his authority look very low, indeed. It is not known, also that other civilizations used it before the pharaoh of Musa (AS to Musa and Haruun). 3. The Golden calf mooing: The person who was mensioned is Samiri, a member of the party that left Egypt with Musa (AS). I do not know how you come about Samaritan person. Oh, I get it. You are trying to pull the wool over our eyes. 4. Ezra to the Jews being son of God; Babyosisi, do you know any Jewish scholar? Ask him. He will tell you that they gave him honorarium godsonship. I know. I have a bunch of them in Borough Park section of Brooklyn. I have ethnic Jew/Children of Israel who was studying to become a Rabbi, now he is a Muslim. His name is Musa Cohn. His Children names are Daud and mariam. (God bless them all). 5. About Alexander the great. (Zul Qainain); In the appendix of Yusuf Ali, where you brought about your usual inference (Conjecture), there is no definate indication that this identity refers to your conclusion. In the first place, Yusuf Ali said that it could refer to a Persian King that was probably mentioned in the Jewish Book of daniel, or the pre historic Yemen King as well. He further spoke about Alexander the great, since this personality that grab your attention. He said that Alexander the great was a pagan, but the Ethiopic traditional story about him was that the considered him as one of their great prophet. No where did he call him a great Muslim. No where did he talk about him living to a ripeful old age. By the way what is a ripeful old age? Is it going to be a known number that will be the same in present day Japan and 3 centuaries ago Congo's Pigmese society? Yusuf Ali describes Alexander the great as a man who was honest, somewhat good. Neither one of these characteristics is exclusive to a man who believes that God exist, or for that matter a Muslim. 6. About trinity and the mother of god in the Qur'an: Please tell me, is it not true that the Roman Catholic pray/worship an image known as mary mother of God. As a matter of fact is there not a prayer that is known as hail mary! 7. mary the Mother of jesus (AS), being called sister of Haruun, etc. Please tell me, is it not true that all man and woman are called children of Adam? Could you tell me the generation vaseness of Adam (AS) to our present generation versus Musa and haruun to Mariam Ummu Isa bin mariam? I am from Ijebu ode yet, every Ijebu Ode person is called Omoobanta. Indeed every yoruba person is called Omoooduwa. Igbo people must have something similar! What is so strange, is that after all your research of the qur'an, you came up with all of these. You cleverly ignored where it speaks about disbelef and where it spoke about Jesus and his mother. You do not want to lear about the true condition of Jesus and his mother. Yet, you struggle from elementary school up to the highest level of education you have, to learn about new things. I remember meeting an american girl who was married to an Igbo Doctor in delawaere. She said that when she first visited Nigeria, the nephew of her husband in Igboland would reel in laughter the moment she opened her mouth to speak in English. Why, because she spke very stangely by the hearing of these young people. They are probably used to a Brit speech. But that is not to say that she is not speaking proper English! Just because your Bible does not teach you the whole truth about jesus, and any about Muhammad (AS, to both of them), does not mean truth is known. God has revealed it in the Qur'an. The Jews who do not believe anything about Jesus (AS), does not by that change the true condition of the messiahship of Jesus to them! Nice try my girl, nice try. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Bobbyaf(m): 4:58pm On Oct 26, 2006 |
@ davidylan very little is also achieved by those who "refuse to argue back and forth" but rather choose to toe the line of "spiritual correctness by burying their heads in the sand. Christ FLOGGED those found buying and selling in the temple, he was not sheepishly begging them to leave on his knees! The bible admonishes to RESIST the devil and he will flee from you. You do not resist by applying zero force! No one is burying their head in sand David. Its obvious that all you have accomplished so far is nada, zero, rien. No love has been shown by either moslem, or christian. Chrisians weren't called to argue endlessly, but to witness with words and lifesyle. You can't expect to be using words that seek to make others look bad, instead of directing people to Christ. That was never Christ's approach at all. Lest you think I am trying to make you feel bad, I myself have been guilty of this many a times. If Christ is your leader then follow Him. Just make sure your light shines before men that they may see your good works, and be led to glorify God. This goes for me too. Besides, Christ absolutely flogged no one either. The only time Christ lifted his hand on anyone was when He healed them. I suggest you try and understand what you read before applying. Peace. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by babs787(m): 5:49pm On Oct 26, 2006 |
[b]havila. this what u said, @babs, You are really frustrating me with your poor handling. I think I actually over-estimated you. Are you a secondary school student? Dont take that as an 'abuse', it is just a curious question, if not then you must really be lazy. As a muslim, I know that independent scripture analysis is not one of your attirbutes, rather relying on whatever the Ustahs/Sheik/Imam said at your mosques. So, your question is: what is the holy spirit saying about divorce, parents etc from the Bible aside what Jesus said? (a ridiculous but persistent questioning) This question is not correct is what I am saying, going by what Jesus said in the scriptures I quoted for you. Read it again:John 16, vs 12-15 "(12) I have much more to say to you, more than you can now bear. (13) But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. (14) He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you. (15) All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you. [/b] THIS IS YOUR REPLY. I MAY BE IN PRE-SCHOOL, PRIMARY SCHOOL ETC.AM VERY SURE IF YOU SEE ME ONE ON ONE YOU WONT BE ABLE TO ADDRESS ME LIKE THAT, BUT THATS NOT THE ISSUE AT HAND. ALSO WE MUSLIMS ARE NOT LIKE YOU CHRISTIANS THAT RELY ON WHAT YOUR PASTORS TELL YOU, WE MAKE RESEARCH BEFORE WE ACEPT ANYTHING THEY SAY. IF YOU HAVE BEEN READING THE BIBLE YOURSELF AND NOT RELYING ON WHAT YOUR PASTORS, EVANGELISTS, DEACON, DEACONESS ETC HAVE BEEN TELLING, YOU WOULDNT HAVE BEEN IN A FIX AS YOU ARE NOW. U UNDERSTOOD MY QUESTIONS BUT DEVISING STRATEGY TO RUN AWAY FROM MY QUESTION. FROM YOUR QUOTE (JOHN). IT IS WRITTEN THERE THAT HE WILL NOT SPEAK OF HIS OWN, HE WILL SPEAK WHAT HE HEARS AND WILL TELL YOU WHAT IS YET TO COME. AM ASKING YOU AGAIN, WHAT HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT BEEN TELLING YOU REGARDING THE ABOVE? ALSO WHAT THINGS TO COME HAS THE HOLY SPIRIT TOLD YOU? I WANT TO KNOW PLS babyosis, am waiting for your post to my answer. it seems you are confused yourself. your so called writers failed you, they couldnt answer even one of the many contradictions. IT WILL BE BETTER FOR YOUTO ACEPT THE RELIGION OF NATURE WHICH IS ISLAM. am still waiting for your comment Davidylan, thanks for your post. it will be better if you take the contradictions one by one and address it. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 6:51pm On Oct 26, 2006 |
@ bobbyaf Ahem! "Great" words from you. Maybe its you who has to spend more time in study before hyperventilating in self righteousness! @ Babs787, there are NO contradictions in those long tedious pieces you keep torturing our eyes with. It has more to do with either your inability to comprehend historical and contextual facts in the bible or inherent nature to keep ferreting out percieved contradictions in the bible! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Aggressa(m): 11:55pm On Oct 26, 2006 |
babs787: @Babs101,What is it with some of you guys talking as if 'thinking' is not one of your charateristics on an open forum? What do you mean by "if you see you one on one you wont be able to address me like that". I said it before and now you've confirmed it, I overestimated you because this is actually a very silly statement. I tried handling you like an adult but my assumption seems wrong. babs787: Okay, now I give up on you. You will get it before Jesus comes back. You paraphrased rightly from the quoted scriptures by saying "He will speak what he hears and will tell you what is to come" Now look at the passage again and tell me what the passage says about the source of "what he hears and what is to come" and you can stop torturing yourself. Please, read the bible more and more and bring on more 'contradictions', 'errors, 'spoofs', the Light will shine into your heart. If you still dont get it,,,,,,,well I am praying for you, my friend |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by babs787(m): 10:48am On Oct 27, 2006 |
davidylan: very funny beings (davidylan, havila etc) U CLAIMED there are contradictions, so the above are not contradictions (maybe slip of pen, calculation error etc) IN THE DIVINELY INSPIRATIONAL BOOK. THAT IS A TORCH FOR YOU, MORE IS STILL COMING, U FAILED IN PROVIDING ANSWERS TO THE CONTRADICTIONS. WATCH FOR MY COMING WRITE UPS. SHINE YOUR EYES, ACCEPT THE RELIGION OF NATURE ( BY THE WAY WHERE IS BABYOSIS), AM STILL WAITING FOR HER TO CONTACT HER "SUPPOSSED WRITERS" IN FINDING SOLUTION TO THE ISSUE). |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 5:36pm On Oct 27, 2006 |
I asked you to read over them and ask God for an understanding.You sound very childish with all your silly questions,I cannot help you further,the answers are all in my posting and your contradictions do not exist. What further do you need to know?About what the holy spirit is telling us,let's just say he is saying Mohammed was a murderous pedophile,lover of little helpless girls and rapist of helpless captives of war and no prophet of his. I guess you now have an answer. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Nobody: 12:05am On Oct 28, 2006 |
At least one thing i know the Holy Spirit has made me to understand; HE has reassured me that He indeed is the comforter mentioned in the bible and any attempt to link him to that quraish murderer is nothing but blasphemy! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Bobbyaf(m): 5:44am On Oct 30, 2006 |
Once again I appeal to you professed christians and muslems. It does none of you any good to be boasting about this, and that. God can never be glorified in vain arguments about who is correct, and who is false. Can a person's heavenly-mindedness be of any good unless he is also earthly good. How can we claim to represent God when we allow the enemy of souls, whether its moslems, or christians, to laugh at us scornfully? Time will prove everything. Let us pray that all people will find truth. A boastful knowledge of truth, without the spirit of love is worthless to Christ. Just like the pharasees, and Saducees who were at each other's throats, so are the christians and moslems at each other's, trying to out do each other. In His own time God will call all men unto Himself, and He will use the humble, and not the self-righteous to do it. Let each examine themselves. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by babs787(m): 3:56pm On Nov 03, 2006 |
Bobbyaf: |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Brodafred(m): 4:59pm On Nov 22, 2006 |
The Bible is like a lion; it does not need to be defended; just let it loose and it will defend itself. ", the scripture cannot be broken." --Jesus Christ, John 10:35 Jesus, Who is God, did not need the testimony of man. Let us take instruction from the gospel of John. When the Lord Jesus was in Jerusalem at the passover in the feast day, many people believed in His name when they saw His miracles. But look at the last part of the passage -- But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, And NEEDED NOT THAT ANY SHOULD TESTIFY OF MAN: for he knew what was in man. John 2:23-25 |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by Brodafred(m): 5:20pm On Nov 22, 2006 |
[b][b][b]In the book, Science Speaks, mathematician and scientist, Peter Stoner, applies the rules of probability to these prophecies. The chances of just eight of these three-hundred prophecies being fulfilled are one in 10 to the 17th power - that's 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000! In the book, Professor Stoner, illustrates: Let us try to visualize this chance. . . Suppose that we take 10 to the 17th power silver dollars and lay them on the face of Texas. They will cover all of the state two feet deep. Now mark one of these silver dollars and stir the whole mass thoroughly. . . Blindfold a man and tell him. . . he must pick up one silver dollar . . . What chance would he have of getting the right one? Just the same chance that the prophets would have had of writing these eight prophecies and having them all come true in any one man. (Science Speaks, pp. 106 - 107) Professor Stoner, then took 48 of these over 300 fulfilled prophecies. The chances of 48 being fulfilled are 1 in 10 to the 157 power - that's 1 in 10 with 157 zeros! Here's how he illustrates: Let us try to visualize it. . . The electron is about as small an object as we know of. It is so small that it will take 2.5 x 10 to the 15th power of them laid side by side to make a line, single file, one inch long. If we were going to count the electrons in this line one inch long, and counted 250 each minute, and if we counted day and night, it would take us 19,000,000 years to count just the one-inch line of electrons. . . With this introduction, let us go back to our chance of 1 in 10 to the 157th power. . . Let us make a solid ball of electrons, extending in all directions from the earth to the distance of six billion light-years (the distance that light will travel at 186,000 miles a second in 6,000,000,000 years). Have we used up our 10 to the 157th power electrons? No, we have made such a small hole in the mass that we cannot see it. Now, one of these electrons was marked and thoroughly stirred into the whole mass; blindfold your man and ask him to find the marked electron. (The electron, in fact, is so small that it cannot be seen with a powerful microscope.) To the extent, then, that we know this blindfolded man cannot pick out the marked electron, we know that the Bible is inspired. (Science Speaks, pp 109 - 111) And in case you think Professor Stoner's statistics are exaggerated or without scientific substance the "Foreword" of the book, Science Speaks includes an acknowledgment by the prestigious American Scientific Affiliation stating, "The mathematical analysis included is based upon principles of probability which are thoroughly sound and Professor Stoner has applied these principles in a proper and convincing way." [/b][/b][/b] |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by babs787(m): 8:32am On Nov 24, 2006 |
@brodafred  one reverend posted similar 101 of a thing can we all be wrong at the same time? |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by georgecso(m): 6:27pm On Jan 26, 2007 |
[color=#006600][/color] @Babuosisi. l really commend you babyosisi for the job well done. U did a great work in your research! Tons of love for ya. May God continue to give us the wisdom & inspirations to respond to these kind of challenges. One thing l have observed is that illiteracy is endemic in the Islamic world. The moment they realize and interprete what they are reading from the Quran the better. The fact is that most of our lslamic brothers can recite the 60 Izus of the Quran but cannot comprehend most the things.  |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by lolabaloo(f): 11:43am On Feb 13, 2007 |
bab787, please are you a christain or muslim? cos i need to know. thanks also which church if u'r a christain. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by shahan(f): 12:38pm On Feb 13, 2007 |
@lola baloo, lola baloo: He is a muslim. If you're a little confused about who he is, that's probably because he blabs a lot. |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by shahan(f): 1:00pm On Feb 13, 2007 |
@georgecso, georgecso: To a large extent, that is correct. However, there are many Muslims who are very educated and are professionals and leaders in their vocations. It is not surprising therefore, that most educated Muslims take a relaxed view of the teachings in the Qur'an. You hardly find them on the streets with the rest of the R-IQs (Reverse Intelligence Quotients) who brandish cutlasses threatening non-Muslims on just about any excuse. georgecso: The simple reason why "interpretation" of the Qur'an is discouraged is because "meaning" is the biggest threat to Islam. Most Muslims believe that ". .any translation of the Qur'an immediately ceases to be the literal word of Allah, and hence cannot be equated with the Qur'an in its original Arabic form", as this muslim website states. It then becomes pertinent to ask if at all Muslims actually have the Word of God. If someone reads the Arabic form of the Qur'an and then seeks to "translate/interprete" what he has read, then he immediately loses the word of Allah, and all he has left are his own tales. This is a convenient way of saying: "Don't interprete what the Qur'an says in order to understand it! Just read it without meaning!" . . .probably because of its musical/rhythmic sounds - according to nuru in another thread! |
| Re: 101 Contradictions In The Bible by trinigirl1(f): 1:04pm On Feb 13, 2007 |
shahan! stop making wahala here for a moment and hop to The Oil and The Mantle thread. I need your input. |
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