Richirich713:


"The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father" (John 22-23)

Richirich713:


And after all that smoke, didn't jesus say we 'must' honor him just like we honor the father ?

truthislight:


Does that shows that Jesus "demand" such honor or that he simply started the fact of what the father has done?

Does that scripture in an way suggest in any way Jesus equality with the father?

Who assigned all judging to the son?

Does an equal assign responsibility to his equal?

Who wants all to honor the son? Jesus or the Father?=Father

Is this honor from the father to the son not what we have been talking about all along?

That Yahweh gave honor to David and also gave such honor to Jesus? Why are you going in circle?

Is it on such premise that you based your doctrine on?

What is the new thing that you have came up with now?

SMH seriously for you.

Richirich713:


The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father" (John 22-23)

Do u honor the Son just like u honor the father?

Either u do or either u consider the Son to be just a creation, nd there4 don't honor him like u honor the father.

truthislight:


Does that shows that Jesus "demand" such honor or that he simply started the fact of what the father has done?

Does that scripture in an way suggest in any way Jesus equality with the father?

Who assigned all judging to the son?

Does an equal assign responsibility to his equal?

Who wants all to honor the son? Jesus or the Father?=Father

Is this honor from the father to the son not what we have been talking about all along?

That Yahweh gave honor to David and also gave such honor to Jesus? Why are you going in circle?

Is it on such premise that you based your doctrine on?

What is the new thing that you have came up with now?

SMH seriously for you.

Richirich713:


The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father" (John 22-23)

Do u honor the Son just like u honor the father?

Either u do or either u consider the Son to be just a creation, nd there4 don't honor him like u honor the father.

plappville:


Honestly, its difficult for Trinitarian s to accept the simplicity of the bible. They have made things so hard that sometimes they find it hard to define the trinity. Role of each person. You are doing a great work though. All the same, we are all one in Christ. Since He didn't teach trinity himself. We have no curse for not following such doctrine.

cosiocan:
JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
"FOR AS GOD THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF; SO HAS HE GIVEN TO THE SON JESUS CHRIST {by the Holy Ghost} TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF";
◄John 5:26)

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name ( THE NAME OF GOD) than they.
Hebrews 1:4 ►
Therefore Jesus is called God by INHERITANCE.

"Through Jesus Christ we have access by one Holy Spirit unto God the Father"
(Ephesians 2:18).

◄"Now the Lord Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty"►. And if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
◄2 Corinthians 3:16-17). (Roman 8:9)►

chuna1985:



So God now has children.

Where is his wife.

truthislight:


I wish the issue is that simple, and the Almighty will accept it the way you see it.

John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.
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Is getting to know the only true God a function of believing things the way one sees it ? I don't know. If you get a wrong idea of someone, you will described the person wrongly. That to me is not how to 'know the only true God' that leads to eternal life.

1Tim. 2:34

This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
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Will the Almighty bend to man's will or men should bend?

I believe that the best bet is lining ones way and believes to what Yahweh has said, "though all men be found a liar, let God be found true".

plappville:


Are you not a child of God? Does this make your mum is wife?

plappville:


Just one question. Do we need the trinity doctrine to be saved?

truthislight:


1John 5:3
"This is what the love of God means: that we observe his commandment".


Matt. 15:8

"This people honor me with their lips, but their heart are far removed from me".

How should Jesus be honored?

Is it not by obaying his commands? how many of those calling him God do what Jesus says in the bible? with the proliferation of Trinitarian religion the world is getting more immoral and corrupt, is it the increased in way wardness the way to obay Jesus?

You think that Shouting "Jesus" for prosperity and selfish reasons means that is Honor to him. Smh.

Jesus is smarter than such.

you, cool down and search out what to Honor the son means, and see those obaying Jesus in its entirety.

Majority of those praying to Jesus sleep and wake in immorality, disobaying Jesus, telling themselves that they leave in "GRACE".

Take Note:
Matt. 15:8

"This people honor me with their lips, but their heart are far removed from me".

And

1John 5:3
"This is what the love of God means: that we observe his commandments".


John17:7,8

John 17:7-8

7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever you have given me are of yours.

8 For I have given to them the words which you have given me; and they have accepted them, and they have come to known surely that I came from you, and they have believed that you did send me.

chuna1985:


I am not.

Richirich713:


Do u honor jesus just like u honor the father?

truthislight:

I obey the son just as i obey the father, but i worship only the only true God, the Father.

cosiocan:
JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
"FOR AS GOD THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF; SO HAS HE GIVEN TO THE SON JESUS CHRIST {by the Holy Ghost} TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF";
◄John 5:26)

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name ( THE NAME OF GOD) than they.
Hebrews 1:4 ►
Therefore Jesus is called God by INHERITANCE.

"Through Jesus Christ we have access by one Holy Spirit unto God the Father"
(Ephesians 2:18).

All Christian go in different dimension yet they all claim to have holly spirit.
My question is who are the true follower of jesus Christ between the Christians?
DEEPER LIFE
CELESTIAL
JEHOVAH WITNESS
C & S
RCCG
CHRIST EMBASSY
CHOSEN
CATHOLIC



◄"Now the Lord Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty"►. And if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
◄2 Corinthians 3:16-17). (Roman 8:9)►

cosiocan:
JESUS IS NOT THE ONLY TRUE GOD.
JESUS IS THE ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD.
"FOR AS GOD THE FATHER HAS LIFE IN HIMSELF; SO HAS HE GIVEN TO THE SON JESUS CHRIST {by the Holy Ghost} TO HAVE LIFE IN HIMSELF";
◄John 5:26)

Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name ( THE NAME OF GOD) than they.
Hebrews 1:4 ►
Therefore Jesus is called God by INHERITANCE.

"Through Jesus Christ we have access by one Holy Spirit unto God the Father"
(Ephesians 2:18).

◄"Now the Lord Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit; and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty"►. And if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
◄2 Corinthians 3:16-17). (Roman 8:9)►

Richirich713:
If jesus was not the true God, he should have not accepted worship or being called God.

Richirich713:


Jesus said, "Touch me and see, FOR A SPIRIT DOES NOT have flesh and bones AS YOU SEE I HAVE," (Luke 24:39)
Meaning that he(jesus) does not die and he never resurected

Jesus says he has FLESH AND BONES.

aob2882:

Please think deeply how can you use the word Begotten to the creator of the universe.

John 3:16King James Version (KJV)
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
John 3:16King James Version (RSV)
16 For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

aob2882:

قَوْلِهِمْ إِنَّا قَتَلْنَا الْمَسِيحَ عِيسَى ابْنَ مَرْيَمَ رَسُولَ اللّهِ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ وَمَا صَلَبُوهُ وَلَـكِن شُبِّهَ لَهُمْ وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُواْ فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلاَّ اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا {Quran 4 vs 157}
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

Matthew 26-56 But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Meaning that none of the disciple have the exact knowledge of what happen.

Richirich713:

I didn't ask if u obeyed him?
Honoring someone means much more then just obeying.

Richirich713:

I didn't ask if u obeyed him?
Honoring someone means much more then just obeying.

truthislight:


"To obey is better than sacrifice".

Ask Saul if in doubt.

Richirich713:


Again obey doesn't mean honor? Use a dictionary if u in doubt

Richirich713:

Again obey doesn't mean honor? Use a dictionary if u in doubt

truthislight:


Neither does 'Honor' mean worship.

truthislight:


Eph.6:1,2

Children, be obedient to your parents in union with the Lord, for this is righteous. 2 “Honor your father and your mother” is the first command with a promise: 3 “That it may go well with youa and you may remain a long time on the earth.”
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Can honor and obedience be extricated? No. The two go hand in hand.

try separating them if you can.

Any attempt to such end will amount to lips service.

You cannot honor God without obeying him. God is not a kid that you give food.

Jeremiah 7:23

But I did give them this command: “Obey my voice, and I will become your God, and you will become my people. You must walk in all the way that I command, so that it may go well with you.
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Romans13:7

Render to all their dues: to the one who calls for the tax, the tax; to the one who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to the one who calls for fear, such fear; to the one who calls for honor, such honor.
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Mark 10:17-19

As he was going on his way, a man ran up and fell on his knees before him and put the question to him: “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit everlasting life?” 18 Jesus said to him: “Why do you call me good? Nobody is good except one, God.19 You know the commandments: ‘Do not murder,r do not commit adultery,s do not steal,t do not bear false witness,u do not defraud,v honor your father and your mother.’”
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What we owe Yahweh and Jesus Christ today is to obey them.
Do you want to Honor them with Animal sacrifice?

"to obey is better than Sacrifice" the Bible says.

Richirich713:


You keep on with this false definition of honor, there are children who obey their parents around the world but still hate their parents.

Does that mean they honor them? No it only means they obey.

Some children even hated their parents so much they ended up killing them, but I'm sure u will still say that some of these children still honor their parents.

Richirich713:
"The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, just as they honor the Father" (John 22-23)

honor

noun
1)high respect; esteem.
2)a privilege.
3)a woman's chastity or her reputation for this.
4)an ace, king, queen, or jack.

verb
1)regard with great respect.
2)fulfill (an obligation) or keep (an agreement).