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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by LadyGuinivere: 8:29pm On Aug 17, 2016
ebsuguy:


I have read the process but i wanted to know if there is any potential pitfalls that i should watch out for.

Thanks.
Read the thread and learn from mistakes and experiences of people

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by worry359(m): 8:31pm On Aug 17, 2016
ebsuguy:

I have read the process but i wanted to know if there is any potential pitfalls that i should watch out for.
Thanks.

Tell the truth.
Do not use agents.

Good ties to home and sound finances.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by seyewest(m): 9:49pm On Aug 17, 2016
ebsuguy:


I have read the process but i wanted to know if there is any potential pitfalls that i should watch out for.

Thanks.
None just continue with the process

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by sugah: 10:49pm On Aug 17, 2016
NaGodwin:
grin Good Morning oh!

Let me know when you run out of red lipstick.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by gentleiphy: 3:06am On Aug 18, 2016
LaraPeperempe:



I was just confused he asked why I wanted to go alone, I was like, why not? Can't somebody enjoy alone?
This holiday means alot to me. I have not had the opportunity to go for a vacation since 2014 because of my job.

This opportunity came because my workaholic boss decides to go on a vacation. A very good time for me to travel and spoil myself a lil. Its painful oh.

You know, I lost a friend of mine few weeks ago and after like 2 days of her demise, her family members couldn't wait, they started scouting for how to get her atm pin. We were really close, so, 2 of her siblings called me to ask if I knew the pin, like seriously?

This babe worked herself off and saved so much without spending lavishly...this actually inspired me to go for vacation, can't come and die and some useless people will now start eating from where they never sowed...

Can i re-apply? Or i should try UK? I must do sha go for vacation...lols


I think from my experience with the way the US embassy handles visa applicants,granting of visa and denials has something to do with the way they the US perceive the host country and its citizens on issue relating to absconding looking at the economic values and conditions of the country.They the Visa officers always use TIES not strong enough to convince them...some have opined its lack of travel history and some have said its salary you eanr some say its marital status.Many here followed when i was initially denied business visa to attend a conference which was then my first ever visit to the US embassy since i have no business going ever...needless to say i work in a good profession and in a good coy as well as having travelled to so many European countries( about 12),3 Asian..2 south American..Middle east and about 8 African countries both for work,vacation and conferences...however after the VO leafed all through my two passports and saw visas scattered all over and even mentioned that she saw i recently came back from Germany just 2 months prior to the coming to the embassy..she still denied me visa...i got out not angered anyway..but a letter was quickly sent to the US to the secretary general of the NGO that i also represent actively in Nigeria and they asked me to go back which i was lucky i got a new visa appointment date and went back and visa was given 2yrs...again prior to that interview i had already done my medicals to relocate to Canada as permanent resident with my family...my wife never visited the embassy in Nigeria for visa but she has travelled severally with me to other European countries...after 5 months of settling down here...my wife is back in school here she just decided to apply for visit visa at the US embassy here in Canada...when she go to the visa officer the only question asked her was how long has she been in Canada and she said 5 months and what she does presently she said a student of so so University...then her vacation city she said Los Angeles...the visa officer then with smiles said why wont you also visit Las vegas and get to see the new casino that was just opened..my wife smiled ad said maybe....visa was approved without any question more than what i just said and the following day Canada post sent her a mail to come pick up her passport with visa and it was 10yrs visa to expire 2026.Now i should think the visa officer knows that her status from being resident in Nigeria has changed and there is limited chance for her to stay back in the US when she has legal resident status in Canada.So i dont know why they the US always look at us from back home as potential run- aways. And the truth is that we always have genuine visa applicants who only want to visit and come back to their jobs as they know its hard to even try to work with visit visa in the US...however i still commend the likes of ladyG and others for always giving brush ups to a lot here on how to get things right even though the visa officers still hold the key to whatever decision they want to make.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by mamateniola1: 8:10am On Aug 18, 2016
I think you are right @Gentleiph, the VOs see us as potential run aways' but what baffles me is that so many ple still beat them to it. We still abuse the visa! family ties oh, work ties ohh, I know some ple that will just go once or twice, next thing you hear them say is 'I am relocating ' I will be like relocating to your fatherland or where. Lolll and that's it. Some with family sef, they just uproot their family and off they go. When I say it's an abuse of that visa they ask me to mind my business maybe it's cos I never see Wetin go make me 'run' and it so annoying cos I know people with genuine reason that have been denied. I have a sister wif a PR in another country with 10years US visa but if na Nigeria she dey.........
As we don dey get light now, maybe they will respect us small especially the genuine applicants. Lollll

Goodmorning everyone.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by OmoBendel24: 8:42am On Aug 18, 2016
mamateniola1:
I think you are right @Gentleiph, the VOs see us as potential run aways' but what baffles me is that so many ple still beat them to it. We still abuse the visa! family ties oh, work ties ohh, I know some ple that will just go once or twice, next thing you hear them say is 'I am relocating ' I will be like relocating to your fatherland or where. Lolll and that's it. Some with family sef, they just uproot their family and off they go. When I say it's an abuse of that visa they ask me to mind my business maybe it's cos I never see Wetin go make me 'run' and it so annoying cos I know people with genuine reason that have been denied. I have a sister wif a PR in another country with 10years US visa but if na Nigeria she dey.........
As we don dey get light now, maybe they will respect us small especially the genuine applicants. Lollll

Goodmorning everyone.
Which LIGHT Una don dey get? As long as this "light" gets DARKER as it is doing, the embassy will of necessity make adjustments with your light. If you are earning 600k for instance, your salary before now was about $3k, but it's now less than $1.8k. How much naira do you need to get regular tickets now compared to before for starters? Calm down oh. Good morning too!

Meanwhile @oga gentleiphy, the considerations are more than all those ties, even if such ties are a great advantage to an applicant. The potential immigrant assumption dimension you put in there is right. But then, it could be that there is an insincerity tag that is on you by them from your package. Are all your visas legit, have you been using them correctly, do you have a family member that has abused his/her visa with them, is there no misrepresentation in your package, etc?

You are normally good to go for a US visa issuance from your profile, really. But then, those little things we sometimes underrate could just be all they held against you, you may have fallen short in their unknown to us checks somehow, maybe. Do you know differences in your Canada previous application and that of the US affects visa applications? A confirmed immigrant application with one of the two embassies could/may affect your application with the other too.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by LadyGuinivere: 10:06am On Aug 18, 2016
@mamateniola please wia is this light you speak of?
Issit Nepa? We never gettam in 2 weeks!
Abi issit Naija? Wherein salaries have been slashed and dollar is now 391?
I need to tap from your source. Mbok make I PM u so you go show me the light? cheesy

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by terrywales: 11:01am On Aug 18, 2016
Good morning my brothers and sisters in the house.
PLS, if one is going for Easter holiday, when is the earliest period to apply, considering the fact that Easter is 3rd month of 2017. Thanks
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by OmoBendel24: 11:16am On Aug 18, 2016
terrywales:
Good morning my brothers and sisters in the house.
PLS, if one is going for Easter holiday, when is the earliest period to apply, considering the fact that Easter is 3rd month of 2017. Thanks
Apply as soon as possible in early 2017. Easter isn't happening in the 3rd month of a FACT, it's rather billed for the fourth! Get your info updated
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by mamateniola1: 11:26am On Aug 18, 2016
Oya, pm make I show you.

Yes, light has been constant for Lagos for the past 2weeks. Dunno about your area but I can confirm it's better in lagos.
For the dollar rate, yes oh, everyone is affected but I wan get hope for this country. I get small hope say things go better. Lolll and in my lifetime!

LadyGuinivere:
@mamateniola please wia is this light you speak of?
Issit Nepa? We never gettam in 2 weeks!
Abi issit Naija? Wherein salaries have been slashed and dollar is now 391?
I need to tap from your source. Mbok make I PM u so you go show me the light? cheesy

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by seyewest(m): 1:03pm On Aug 18, 2016
@gentleiphy Congrats, I'm impressed with the way you analyzed the way the V.O sees us especially in 3rd world countries well you're not far from the truth and they believe we are all potential immigrant judging from Visa lottery application. Well as for your previous denied application I believe your body language is not encouraging maybe you're pompous,arrogant or timid.. it maybe any of these.

@mamateniola About light we may sometimes have light for 3-4 days and they will take it on the weekend which is very painful.. I believe the light situation is a little bit better
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 1:43pm On Aug 18, 2016
Hello my people, had my interview today, didnt go too well, I got denied the Visa, the guy in window 3 interviewed me.
Who else was there today, anybody?

I'm gonna try again probably next year or I'll try to disvirgin my passport b4 trying again.

That reminds me, there is this girl on a red top, she got her visa, she was sooooo happy and thanking God, she couldn't keep calm, I was just smiling and was happy for her. cheesy cheesy

A couple, one rich igbo guy with his lovely, beautiful wife and their 3 kids got denied too, d man talk taya, d VO no still give am o, I pity dem sha. A lot of people were given, majority were denied, we were just too much.

My own pain me small o cos I wasnt even asked much questions and I made sure the wedding IV was out for him to see it, but life goes on.

Maybe its not just my time to visit the US.

Thanks for your help all the gurus here.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by worry359(m): 1:52pm On Aug 18, 2016
Chelseafan1:
Hello my people, had my interview today, didnt go too well, I got denied the Visa,

Thanks for your help all the gurus here.

On your rejection paper what was written?
Was it 214b or something else?

Spending money to get stamps on your PP from African countries does not impress the VO.
Work on your strong ties to home
and sound finances.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by LadyGuinivere: 2:23pm On Aug 18, 2016
Chelseafan1:
Hello my people, had my interview today, didnt go too well, I got denied the Visa, the guy in window 3 interviewed me.

My own pain me small o cos I wasnt even asked much questions and I made sure the wedding IV was out for him to see it , but life goes on.

Maybe its not just my time to visit the US.

Thanks for your help all the gurus here.
Sorry about that.
But if I may gently point out again "about to get married/Engaged" is not a legal status nor can it be considered a tie.
After the actual marriage you may reapply
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by 9jaStar: 2:25pm On Aug 18, 2016
OmoBendel24:


@all, pretty sorry for the little derailment, take advantage where necessary as advocated! True talk there, Nef. I long to see Brazil and the caribbeans with my wife and son seriously soon too! Hopefully, PMB gets motherland properly functional again.

Visited Brazil twice. Those beaches na die! You can do just about everything, including skydiving. And of course, a visit to Sugar Loaf mountain and Christ The Redeemer in Rio
If you can, go to Salvador. It's almost Nigerian/African but with a different edge to it
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by seyewest(m): 2:29pm On Aug 18, 2016
@Chelseafan1 The V.O question is will they stop the wedding if you don't attend? I believe it should be I'm going for holiday and intend to attend my brother/sister/family/friend wedding while in the U.S for my holiday.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Rohzeez: 2:30pm On Aug 18, 2016
Hello rummies.
Please I will like to ask if someone that US embassy just declined is visa today 18th of August 2016 can reapply tomorrow again, coz he's mind is contemplating if it'll surely work out or not?
I need reply asap please house.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by 9jaStar: 2:37pm On Aug 18, 2016
TalliusCeciro:
Am really Shocked and appalled by what happened to me at Abuja US Embassy.Please this what transpired between myself and the officer.Please what went wrong.
I: Hello
CO: Can I have your passport and confirmation paper
CO:Why are you going to the US?
I: to attend a conference.
CO:Where is the conference?
I:Chicago
CO: What do you do?
I: I am a
C0: Have you traveled outside before?
I: No
CO:How much do you earn?
I: I told him


I met applicants with no travel experiences who were approved.

If this is exactly how your interview went, it's no surprise you were refused. The VO has about 2-5 minutes to adjudicate your case and you're giving short answers.
HINT: Next time, without being verbose, explain to the VO exactly what the conference is about, and how it relates to your current job and/or personal development.
This is based on the information you've supplied above. The VO has access to way more detailed information with which to adjudicate
In addition, make sure you complete your DS-160 truthfully (I assume you did) so your answers correspond to what is in the form
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by 9jaStar: 2:40pm On Aug 18, 2016
LadyGuinivere:
Finally!
Some good news. Whoop de doo for U @peacevilla.
Another notch for those in favour of the submission that 'those with immigration petition can still get B visa'

Is that still under debate? Thought we laid that one to rest a long time ago?
I got my B visa bang in the middle of my IV processing
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 2:41pm On Aug 18, 2016
worry359:


On your rejection paper what was written?
Was it 214b or something else?

Spending money to get stamps on your PP from African countries does not impress the VO.
Work on your strong ties to home
and sound finances.

Yh, its the 214b, what does it really mean?

Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 2:43pm On Aug 18, 2016
LadyGuinivere:

Sorry about that.
But if I may gently point out again "about to get married/Engaged" is not a legal status nor can it be considered a tie.
After the actual marriage you may reapply

Lol, thanks ma, will sure do try again some other time.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by 9jaStar: 2:46pm On Aug 18, 2016
worry359:


My opinion, but I think they are getting fed up of the "Conference" thing.
Too many people from Nigeria submitting the same old story.

Also they are trained to scan the documents that you submitted and the way you present on the day.
USA says that you WILL try to immigrate unless you prove otherwise.
If they are not satisfied it's 214b rejection letter.

I see your point. But if you have a genuine conference to attend, and it ties in with your current career, it will be approved.
Recently, I recommended someone for a conference in DC. She's single, mid 20s and with a salary of just over 100K. Cached her a little bit (even played the part of VO and denied her a couple of times).
She was approved with a virgin passport.
The young lady attended the conference and returned just over a week ago

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 2:48pm On Aug 18, 2016
seyewest:
@Chelseafan1 The V.O question is will they stop the wedding if you don't attend? I believe it should be I'm going for holiday and intend to attend my brother/sister/family/friend wedding while in the U.S for my holiday.

Noo, he didnt even ask me that, he was just like I shud pass my passport, what im I going to do in the US, told him I was going for a wedding.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by 9jaStar: 3:01pm On Aug 18, 2016
Bros, this was tough to read. I had to stop

Try using paragraphs next time, biko

gentleiphy:



I think from my experience with the way the US embassy handles visa applicants,granting of visa and denials has something to do with the way they the US perceive the host country and its citizens on issue relating to absconding looking at the economic values and conditions of the country.They the Visa officers always use TIES not strong enough to convince them...some have opined its lack of travel history and some have said its salary you eanr some say its marital status.Many here followed when i was initially denied business visa to attend a conference which was then my first ever visit to the US embassy since i have no business going ever...needless to say i work in a good profession and in a good coy as well as having travelled to so many European countries( about 12),3 Asian..2 south American..Middle east and about 8 African countries both for work,vacation and conferences...however after the VO leafed all through my two passports and saw visas scattered all over and even mentioned that she saw i recently came back from Germany just 2 months prior to the coming to the embassy..she still denied me visa...i got out not angered anyway..but a letter was quickly sent to the US to the secretary general of the NGO that i also represent actively in Nigeria and they asked me to go back which i was lucky i got a new visa appointment date and went back and visa was given 2yrs...again prior to that interview i had already done my medicals to relocate to Canada as permanent resident with my family...my wife never visited the embassy in Nigeria for visa but she has travelled severally with me to other European countries...after 5 months of settling down here...my wife is back in school here she just decided to apply for visit visa at the US embassy here in Canada...when she go to the visa officer the only question asked her was how long has she been in Canada and she said 5 months and what she does presently she said a student of so so University...then her vacation city she said Los Angeles...the visa officer then with smiles said why wont you also visit Las vegas and get to see the new casino that was just opened..my wife smiled ad said maybe....visa was approved without any question more than what i just said and the following day Canada post sent her a mail to come pick up her passport with visa and it was 10yrs visa to expire 2026.Now i should think the visa officer knows that her status from being resident in Nigeria has changed and there is limited chance for her to stay back in the US when she has legal resident status in Canada.So i dont know why they the US always look at us from back home as potential run- aways. And the truth is that we always have genuine visa applicants who only want to visit and come back to their jobs as they know its hard to even try to work with visit visa in the US...however i still commend the likes of ladyG and others for always giving brush ups to a lot here on how to get things right even though the visa officers still hold the key to whatever decision they want to make.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by gentleiphy: 3:08pm On Aug 18, 2016
seyewest:
@gentleiphy Congrats, I'm impressed with the way you analyzed the way the V.O sees us especially in 3rd world countries well you're not far from the truth and they believe we are all potential immigrant judging from Visa lottery application. Well as for your previous denied application I believe your body language is not encouraging maybe you're pompous,arrogant or timid.. it maybe any of these.

@mamateniola About light we may sometimes have light for 3-4 days and they will take it on the weekend which is very painful.. I believe the light situation is a little bit better

I wasn't denied because of any body language ..pompous,arrogant or timidness...like i said the questions asked would not even warrant you being arrogant or pompous cos the questions the visa officers ask are straight and not like you are having an argument about why you feel you should be given visa..so those assumptions are out of the way...so what happened when i went back after two weeks to a different visa officer who with smiles reminded me i was there two weeks ago and said sorry for bringing you back..and for starters i have never seen visa issuance as a do or die thing cos you might be denied last two months and no status change and still be given the next time you visit...and visas are just mere permission to enter a country and when they said Nah,you are not qualified to visit at this time its not the end of the world but because most of us see it as a gateway we always feel downcast....if your purpose is just for visit and come back and they deny you happily go home and try other countries for your vacation if its vacation you sort for.Meanwhile for people residing in countries that US sees as not potential run always...the visa officers are only concerned with your legal status and not even where you work,salary,married or single..travelled before or not..i know office cleaners in Nigeria with salary of 8k a month may never be issued US visa...but here everybody gets visa so long as you show proof of your legal status which is either a student,permanent resident,temporal work permit holders...Nigerian students in Canada here always are issued 3yrs visas..only what they need show is thier student ID cards...maybe sometimes semester results and thats it..nobody ask who is going to sponsor your trip.so it boils down to how they the visa officers percieve the countries in question.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by gentleiphy: 3:10pm On Aug 18, 2016
9jaStar:
Bros, this was tough to read. I had to stop

Try using paragraphs next time, biko


bros no vex..as you talk am now i go learn you hear..not all of us pass well for waec english
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by LadyGuinivere: 3:23pm On Aug 18, 2016
Chelseafan1:


Yh, its the 214b, what does it really mean?
Read paragraphs 1 and 2 of that paper you posted....

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by gentleiphy: 3:27pm On Aug 18, 2016
OmoBendel24:

Which LIGHT Una don dey get? As long as this "light" gets DARKER as it is doing, the embassy will of necessity make adjustments with your light. If you are earning 600k for instance, your salary before now was about $3k, but it's now less than $1.8k. How much naira do you need to get regular tickets now compared to before for starters? Calm down oh. Good morning too!

Meanwhile @oga gentleiphy, the considerations are more than all those ties, even if such ties are a great advantage to an applicant. The potential immigrant assumption dimension you put in there is right. But then, it could be that there is an insincerity tag that is on you by them from your package. Are all your visas legit, have you been using them correctly, do you have a family member that has abused his/her visa with them, is there no misrepresentation in your package, etc?

You are normally good to go for a US visa issuance from your profile, really. But then, those little things we sometimes underrate could just be all they held against you, you may have fallen short in their unknown to us checks somehow, maybe. Do you know differences in your Canada previous application and that of the US affects visa applications? A confirmed immigrant application with one of the two embassies could/may affect your application with the other too.

I have never had an oluwole visa as regards the 'are all your visas legit part'...if most of my travels ate work related,vacation with family and conferences how would i go for oluwole visa..funny though.Then whether visas are used correctly is what i dont understand cos visa issued travel made..visa not overstayed.i quess this sounds like correct use.

Having an impending immigrant visa application to another country was never the issue cos that same impending immigrant visa was still on when after two weeks same US embassy issued business visa to go for the conference to which was initially denied.
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 8:27pm On Aug 18, 2016
LadyGuinivere:

Read paragraphs 1 and 2 of that paper you posted....

He didnt even ask me any of those, he was busy typing and later bought out the form, whereas I have listed so many ties I consider strong enough in the DS 160 form.

Just for clarity, was I supposed to start listing those things b4 he ask me.?
Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by LadyGuinivere: 9:51pm On Aug 18, 2016
Chelseafan1:


He didnt even ask me any of those, he was busy typing and later bought out the form, whereas I have listed so many ties I consider strong enough in the DS 160 form.

Just for clarity, was I supposed to start listing those things b4 he ask me.?
Nobody asks u what your ties are. Your ds 160 speaks for itself. Your job, salary, duties, marital status, parents' data etc are all contained there.
Note: It is not what YOU consider your ties rather its what the VO considers your ties.

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Re: USA Visit Visa Part 2 by Chelseafan1: 10:06pm On Aug 18, 2016
LadyGuinivere:

Nobody asks u what your ties are. Your ds 160 speaks for itself. Your job, salary, duties, marital status, parents' data etc are all contained there.
Note: It is not what YOU consider your ties rather its what the VO considers your ties.

So, he just denied me based on what info is contained in my ds 160 form because he didnt ask me any of those questions in that refusal letter.

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