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Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by LordAdam: 7:28pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
airsaylongcon: "Brothers" in a figurative sense. We are distinct and have the highest recognition of our unique heritage. Your anonymous position does not hold water. When the chips are down, the Isoko people and the Urhobo people are neighbors. We are not the same people. Beat that. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 7:49pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
LordAdam:I gave you far more than Wikipedia and yet you chose to see only what you wanted to see! . How intellectual of you! Ukere is an authority in Edoid linguistics. He is not an authority in ethnography. The course studied in Delsu is "Linguistics and Urhobo". Seeing that the Urhobo and Isoko languages are in the same family, it is not far-fetched why the Isoko language is studied briefly by those who study the Urhobo language.Ukere, no matter what he studied, is an authority, as far as I am concerned, on Urhobo-Isoko language and culture. The name of the department has no bearing here. If Isoko was so important and different why isn't the department called Linguistics and Urhobo-Isoko?. Thank God you have affirmed that Urhobo and Isoko are in the same family. Hasn't that been my premise all along? Or have you forgotten that so soon? However, I even went further, and I reiterate, that Isoko is one of the members of the clusters that make up Urhobo as a cultural delineator. If you like keep denying this, I'd keep reminding you of this ad infinitum. You are just ranting here. Have you written a peer-reviewed article on the Urhobos and Isokos being the same people? The answer is a resounding NO. How then are you an Authority in the subject?Do you know what it means to rant? If I start ranting, can you stand it? And YOU ARE WRONG AGAIN! I have written an article on Urhobo being the socio-cultural appellation of our people. The article was written after an altercation with an Isoko intellectual and it was sent to West African Journal of Developmental Arts and Humanities of which I have an acceptance letter that I can sample if you want. It's Chief Editor is Prof. Abednego Ekoko, you should know him. . So when I start ranting, you'd know Mister! If acknowledging my identity irks you, its simple, acknowledge yours!!! Where does the "SO" in Sobo come from? Why did both the Isoko and Urhobo people reject the name? Is it not because both do not believe they should be clumped together?The SO in Sobo is a product of the fact that the colonial masters couldn't pronounced the Urhobo liquid consonant represented by the letters "Urh" and it was anglicised to Sobo! If you do not like this fact, present a data to contest it. Please, that you do not accept defeat does not mean that you have not being defeated. You are a sorry loser.I have NEVER lost anything in my life. I am always at the top of everything I do whether in academics, religion, philosophy, writing, etc. I never lose. In fact, I do not know how it feels to lose or what is seems like. The fact that you do makes you experienced on the subject matter. Hence, the logical end of this has been obviated! Bring a verifiable quote from an Authority on the subject, you did not bring. Okay, find an Isoko person that says he is an Urhobo person, you cannot find.I have presented you with citations, books, names of people, websites, link, etc and yet you remain blind to all of them. That tells you something about yourself. I just hope you do not learn that fact when it is too late You see people are not blind. And again, the Isoko people already have what they want. To be distinct from the Urhobo people. Extremists cannot be expected to change their views even in the face of compelling argument.Yes. I acknowledge that you are ethnically distinct. You have gotten your wish and what you want. However, in intellectual arguments and in the eyes of everyone who is non-Isoko, the ethnic nationality WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE to be an integral part of Urhobo ETHNIC GROUP! And it is not just my opinion because more than 100 million Nigerians hold the same view! This cant beat the 1 million or so who do not. Facts are sacrosanct!!! Lost what? Is this what you say as a last minute defensive stance? Everyone watching us know that the conversation has only begun. We are still in the prelude as far I am concerned. I believe defeat is reached when a party runs out of points to use. I only see you being out of points because I have more in my arsenal that I am hoarding for the continuity of this argument. Let us have yours, you have refused to show none. The question is simple, give us 10 reasons why Urhobos and Isokos are different and these reasons must be facts that cannot be contested. I know you'd come again and claim to have won . I am used to sore losers doing that and yet you claim to be undefeated! How experienced you are at knowing about loss! Whew!!!! My friend, always stand for unity and let go of tribalism! It wont do you good. Like I said, I NEVER EVER LOSE ! I'd keep hammering you ad infinitum. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by LordAdam: 7:58pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
fratermathy: You took the bait. An itsekiri wedding and a delta Ijaw group picture. Do you notice the 2 piece (top and wrapper with hat and walking stick) dress code for the groom in the itsekiri wedding? In the ijaw group picture, do you notice the young kids who use the 2 piece dress code. The 2-piece dress code is adopted by many SS tribes. You can simply not say it is peculiar to the Urhobo and Isoko people. Even the SE people have an adaptation of the 2-piece dress code. When did the itsekiri people start using coats in their traditional wear. The Ijaw people are expansive. They extend as far as present day Ondo state, and make up Baylesa and Rivers as well. I referenced Delta Ijaw that many times take up the 2-piece dress code. The Ijaws in Baylesa and Rivers do not take up this dress code opting for a signature style popularized by GEJ. And do you notice that across the four groups, Isoko, Urhobo, Itsekiri, and Ijaw; the women have a similar two-piece dress code? Of course, you will say that you are an Authority in the dress code of the SS ethnic groups as well. Please go ahead and do not surprise me. Expert ko, Authority ni.
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Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by rexbuton: 7:59pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
pazienza: First of all, there is no such thing as ozara, you've been corrected by different users but you insist! I am partly an Oza man, we have no igbo words at all, we only have bini and enuani, and as a fluent speaker of these dialects I don't need a stranger to tell me about my hx. And take note oza is not a dying language, our speakers have not diminished and thank God we recently started going to school. And what is the ADA system? I wonder where you get your theories from. IKA is not aniocha! Aniocha is igboid Who were the original settlers at aro?? Who influenced who? The igbos came and fought the aboriginal ibibio severally until they finally won utilizing 5th columnists. The history is on wiki, read up I could pursue this debate speaking OZA and you would not understand a word! Note also that the oza-nogogo have their kin, the oza-nisi in edo state, who speak bini with fewer ika words in it, and both groups bear benin names, understand bini, have benin customs and regalia. Did the real igbos have ezes and obis? Who now told you that people who refuse to adopt benin names are dealt with? 2 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 8:04pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
LordAdam: Someone has, yet again, spoken the truth and as expected of you, you throw invectives at him. Oh! How well you act in all expectation! Your assertion to the world that Isokos are "merely neighbours" to Urhobo is nothing but the spark of a plug in a vast ocean of darkness! All the Isoko linguists put together wouldn't be able to successfully win this argument! This is why I always tell Isokos that it is easier to let it go when your Urhoboness is pointed out than to argue against so. This is because in such argument, you unearthen more facts to prove that you are Urhoboid more and more and you end up placing your group in a Bermuda void, devoid of progenitorial strength! Even your claim to Edo is shaky at best and your Igboid ancestry is nothing to write home about. Urhobo is the only thing you've got that concretises your history as a people, if you throw that away, you throw yourself into ethnic oblivion. Soonest, your language may become extinct as less and less people speak it! If it is acknowledged as an integral part of Urhobo, at the least, it'd be academically documented as such as there will always be speakers drawn from the academic documentation carried out by Urhobo scholars just as Okpe and Uvwie have already been wholly documented in phonology, morphology, syntax and semantics. Isoko is losing out on this and unity is what is needed now. If you and your kins keep preaching the divisive message of distinctiveness, you may be threatened with encroachment, extinction and oblivion! |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by ezeagu(m): 8:05pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
fratermathy: Igos is not Portuguese for money. 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 8:14pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
LordAdam:Bait ko, fish ni. I didn't take any bait because there was none in the first place. Can you ever set a bait in your life? Common fact like this, you cannot see and you talk of setting a bait. Urhobos HAVE A DISTINCTIVE DRESS CODE! No OTHER GROUP in the NIGER DELTA dress like Urhobos do. Only Itsekiris dress similar to Urhobos as I have already asserted and yes! I am an expert in Urhobo Fashion as well, it is all part of Urhobo culture which is my forte! If you find that funny then I find your logic pitiable. IJAWS DO NOT DRESS LIKE URHOBOS! Urhobos do not dress like any Niger Delta Group! Show me a picture of any group in the Niger Delta dressing like Urhobos! Urhobos do not even dress like GEJ. GEJ dresses like Ijaw people and like most of the people of Rivers State! Itsekiri dressing is more similar to how Urhobos dress but radically different! Ask any Itsekiri man. Onuwaje and Goodboiy, am I lying? |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by rexbuton: 8:40pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
fratermathy: Okay lemme come in 1. The binis also refer to God as oghene, though it is rarely used these days except during certain rituals. Around the migration period, oghene was the term for God. We even had an Oba named ore-oghene and ore-oghene quarters is still in benin today, around TV road. 2. Binis eat ukodo too.. Though not a staple food. Those of us who grew up around grandparents are very familiar with benin traditional cuisine of which ukodo is an integral part for the old ladies club 3. Edo and urhobo and isoko share names of objects. We can start an edo-urhobo-isoko comparison thread if you wish 4. All benin offshoots and some vassal states had OGIEs as their rulers. These OGIES were of three categories, the ENOGIE, inherited, which was roughly a duke, reserved for the Oba's brothers in order to keep them busy, then there were the ENIGIE who were just distinguished commoners that rose to admin positions due to learning, magic or valour eg obo evben isi ( corrupted to obomisi), okhuahe, iken etc. These were non inheritable. the urhobo ovie, orodje were a corruption of ogie, initially highly placed individuals from benin of ENOGIE status. 5. The dressing is similar though there are notable differences. The benin chiefs often do not wear shirts, but the enogies often wear shirts. Do the urhobo kings wear shirts?? In contemporary times, our dressing has become distinct from yours, especially the urhobo headwear which has no place in benin custom 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by wytecat: 8:46pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
Just as I thought! Oba godo is a brand new fabricated phenomenon. The author of this very article titled IN DEFENCE OF EDO WOMEN you got the OBAGODO from says "i have reworked and added a few things in view of the ongoing debate over prostitution by Edo girls", which means the writeup can still be edited to accomodate as much word as you want, you can even choose to add any other Yoruba word/name like Ademola tomorrow. It is very recent and does NOT support your claim. Oba is a Yoruba word until you or anyone can show 'oba' in Edo words that have nothing to do with Yoruba. [quote author=bigfrancis21 post=398 http://www.raceandhistory.com/historicalviews/edoculture.htm[/quote] 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 8:47pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
rexbuton: Good! Thanks for proving my points more and more! All these, as you said, may be present in minute forms here and there in Edo. However, they are STRONGLY present in Isoko and Urhobo. Their presence in Edo is not strong enough to assert that Isokos are independent of Urhobos. Urhobo is Edoid and so these things are expected. It'd be a misnormer if they are not present. However, you'd agree with me that Urhobo and Edo are so far apart in virtually everything as compared to Urhobo and Isoko!!! |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by LordAdam: 8:56pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
@fratermathy After all your agrima you typed this. Yes. I acknowledge that you are ethnically distinct. Uya u don lose. Oshare gbutu for me mk me forgive your insolence. If you like continue quoting me till thy Kingdom come, this time you meet person when pass you. Rexbuton go continue with you. Since you said you do not know what loss feels like. Let me educate you. It is nothing to be ashamed of. Kpele! Good bye. Isoko wa do! Goodboiy and the Urhobo gents and ladies in the house. Thank you for the thread and promoting the heritage of the South South people. -Lord over and out. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 9:05pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
LordAdam: Why didn't you finish the quotation: Yes. I acknowledge that you are ethnically distinct. You have gotten your wish and what you want. However, in intellectual arguments and in the eyes of everyone who is non-Isoko, the ethnic nationality WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE to be an integral part of Urhobo ETHNIC GROUP! I wonder where I condescended to your ethnocentric claims! The Oshare don run! You run away so shamefully and without honour whatsoever! I thought you'd press on till the very end. You de claim winning, na who be the judge? Mtchewww Nobody lost anything. You don tire for argument shebi? See your warped logic. I have always said Isokos are ethnically different. Na now you see am? Goto my earliest posts on this argument, I have always said so. My argument, which you have not negated, is that Isoko is a cultural and linguistic unit of Urhobo and that remains my view ad infinitum. See how you cower out of this argument like a coward. You for stay make I wire you na! lol After all your grammar of being undefeated, you con waka abi? Oh! Undefeated chairman my left lap! One thing though, I like your persistence and use of English. It is rare to see someone so persistent even in loss! For all intents and purposes and to clarify your misconception, I believe I WON THIS ARGUMENT from the very point when you refused to give me data to substantiate your bogus claims. After all said and done, I conclude with this simple, undeniable fact; ISOKO is ETHNICALLY DIFFERENT BUT REMAINS AN INTEGRAL PART OF URHOBO ETHNIC GROUP BY VIRTUE OF ITS CULTURE AND LANGUAGE! This has been and will always be my bone of contention! I assume you to have lost this altercation unless you prove otherwise, to which I am everly ready! I'd add this conversation to my trophy box and your name shall go with it. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by pazienza(m): 9:58pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
rexbuton: You clearly have comprehension issues. Oza people speak an Edoid language called Ozara. Oza is an Edoid language, because the people are Edo in origin, Ika is Igboid because the people were Igbo speaking from the very beginning. Oza people are not originally Ika, they. migrated from Edo to Agbor and were welcomed into Agbor by an Obi of Agbor in the ancient time. The above history is a known fact. If you don't know of the Ada staff given to Ika kings in the past by the Oba of Bini then you are not probably in position to debate on these issues. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by rexbuton: 10:21pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
pazienza: Refrain from strong language Once again the language oza and not ozara.. Some people refer to it as owuwu which is not wrong either. You have any historical sources backing your claim that they came from benin and the obi of agbor welcomed them? And also proof that they were given Ada? And the Oba gave them Ada? You don't just cook up funny stories and post online Give me credible citations. I'm waiting 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by pazienza(m): 10:28pm On Nov 09, 2015 |
rexbuton: I have heard the language referred to as Ozara. You keep misunderstanding me, I never said the Oza were given Ada by the Bini, Oza remain under the control of Agbor . www.nairaland.com/458875/delta-igbo-bendel-igbo-what/27 The above exchange between Ogbuefi an Ika man proud. of his Igbo root and Physics a Bini man, on Oza history might help you clear your doubts. It was other Ika towns that couldn't resist Bini that had kings who were given Ada as Mark of submission to Bini. In all, what is clear is that Oza was Edoid speaking right from the very beginning, and remain so even today, while Ika( Agbor in this case) had been Igboid speaking from the very beginning and remain so today. While Oza being an Edoid language borrowed many Igboid words from Agbor, Agbor( Ika) being an Igboid language borrowed edo words from Oza, but both languages remain mutually unintelligible. So once again, no Igbo acculturation took place in Ika. 2 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by pazienza(m): 12:47am On Nov 10, 2015 |
clefstone: We have had this argument before and it's a pity that after all these while, you have refused to start being rational just for once: https://www.nairaland.com/1362294/abohs-delta-state-not-igbos Abohs chased away the Akarai who were Igbo speaking, but everything about Aboh suggests that they too were Igbo speaking from the very beginning. For example, Esumai( the founder of Aboh) fresh from Bini gave his very first son an Igbo name OGWEZI, OGWEZI founded Aboh kingdom and gave the town the name Aboh, derived from the name "Aboh ji", yet an Igbo name. Ogwezi arranged Aboh kingdom into two strata, ie Ndiche( outsiders) and Ndieze( insiders), yet two Igbo words. How can Esumai and Ogwezi just within decades of their departure from Bini forget how to use Bini words to name things, but named all nameables using Igbo language, and not only did they do that, they would also go ahead to throw away every trace of Bini language they could, so much that Aboh became Igbo speaking, even when there was no pressure from an Igbo empire forcing them to do that. This is unprecedented in human history and is totally impossible. Especially when we consider the fact that the Olukumis surrounded by Igbo speaking people in Aniocha Delta state, till today have their Yoruboid language even as a second language, to prove that they once spoke a Yoruboid language in the past, and in Ebonyi state Ntezi and Effium towns in Ohaukwu LGA of the state, though surrounded by Igbo speaking people of Ebonyi, still retained their "KELE" language which is not Igboid and totally mutually unintelligible to their Ebonyi Igbo neighbors, KELE being a language spoken predominantly in Cross Rivers and Benue state, and the KELE speaking towns ( Ntezi and Effium) in Ebonyi said to have migrated to Ebonyi from Cross Rivers in the past, but lack of Igbo empire and forced acculturation that would come with it, ensured that KELE language was preserved in Ebonyi, with the people becoming Bilingual in Igbo and KELE to enable them communicate with their Igbo speaking neighbors, the same Bilingual scenario is seen in Olukumi parts of Aniocha. Your story of a Bini speaking Aboh that without force,dropped her Bini language entirely for an Igbo one is not only irrational but an insult to the intelligence of any rational being. For a people that now keep shouting about their Bini origin with and constantly express loathe for everything Igbo, one would think that the Abohs would have held unto the only thing that links them to Bini, ie Bini language, but alas, everything linked to antiquity in Aboh reeks of Igbo language. 5 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 7:15am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy:See Igbomina and Okun never claim to be different from other Yoruba ooo. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 7:17am On Nov 10, 2015 |
Classicool: Oh please! If you don't understand me, ask me to explain. This ship has sailed ages ago. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 7:24am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy: Okay Explain because my Grandma is from Okun and live there for almost 5yrs... I don't understand what you mean by Okun and Igbomina are Yoruba |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by macof(m): 8:36am On Nov 10, 2015 |
clefstone: Really The same urhobo that was in the old western region 2 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 8:55am On Nov 10, 2015 |
Classicool:"Not" you mean? Amongst Yorubas, there are groups such as Igbomina and Okun that believe their geopolitical zoning may have affected their lot politically and otherwise. Some of them see themselves as being in a dilemma. These people are fully Yorubas but at the National level, Yoruba sociopolitical groups see them as Northerners and Northerners see them as Yorubas. Because of this, some of them simply say I am Igbomina or Okun, instead of I am Yoruba. This is simply because they feel it'd be better to fashion their own distinct identity. This has informed their clamour for separate states! This, in no way, negates their Yoruba status. It is purely political! 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 9:09am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy:Thanks... I know that already.... I thought otherwise before.... They see them as minority... And if PMB consider the CONfab they will be back to Majority.. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by uncjay(m): 9:14am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy: Thank you.... I'm an Okun person. And I'm purely Yoruba, the truth be told Okun have suffer discrimination from her kins and kits(Yoruba)....it even worse that such things still persist in this age....I was born and brought up in the north, I speak Hausa more than Yoruba but I understand the language, in my school here in Lagos I found myself in our director's office for a meeting. Somehow she found out I couldn't speak Yoruba fluently and realize I was Okun, then she ask me never to step in her office again until I speak Yoruba better. Imaging that. This whole thing is political, I simply don't know what the Yorubas aim at achieving with this ooooo... 1 Like |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Nobody: 9:48am On Nov 10, 2015 |
I asked after this which you could not provide answer, so how come you are coming now to quote again? Anyway Omeruo is the one Igbos answer, likewise oyibo, eke, okpara, Thought you were denying that there are no Igbo elements in Urhobo and Isoko? fratermathy: |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by darfay: 10:24am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy: Plz stop sYing trash isoko cannot nd has never bin a branch of urhobo just linguistic neighbours.isoko is the name of a people, their land, their language nd their culture nd stop trying to seprate erowha from isoko.if I were u I would stop bodering myself about isoko nd start worrying bout uvwie nd the okpes who in a few years time would become a fully independent nd autonomous as dey rightly should be Lordadam I hail o Proudly isoko Isoko wadooooooo Haters lyk fattymathy can jump into d ethiope river |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by darfay: 10:31am On Nov 10, 2015 |
DikeOha882: Ehen hw does dat increase the price of crude oil.now get this into ur thick skull the urhobos nd isokos have no relationship with the gorilla leg igbos nor do we have anything in common with lazy tiger faced yorubas |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Nobody: 10:48am On Nov 10, 2015 |
I don't reply subhumans darfay: |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 11:01am On Nov 10, 2015 |
DikeOha882: Those are loan words that could have either been borrowed from Urhobo by Igbos or the other way around. Don't assume Urhobo borrowed from Igbo! |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 11:05am On Nov 10, 2015 |
darfay: You are coming late to this argument! I believe you have a lot to read. Now go on and read all through the thread. You are not a threat to me. I'd beat you hands down in any argument you may want to concoct. |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 11:14am On Nov 10, 2015 |
uncjay:Bruh.... We your Kit and kit are not neglecting you that's why we make sure kwara and kogi must return to SW which is included in CONfab.... We are trying our best to bring you guys back home where you belong.. 3 Likes |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by fratermathy(m): 11:46am On Nov 10, 2015 |
Classicool: Speak for yourself o Most Yorubas dont share the same sentiment! This thing is that most Yorubas believe that Okuns and Igbominas should be given appointments and other political incentives based on their affiliations with North Central Region. However, the North Central majority believe that Okuns and Igbominas should get incentives from their South West brothers. How then will they resolve this dilemma? Furthermore, Okun and Igbomina Yoruba is seen by the typical Awori man, for example, as "impure" due to its influences from Hausa, Nupe, Igara, Tiv and the Islamic Religion. Hence, whenever they speak their own version of Yoruba, others tend to circle them out as being inferior in standard Yoruba communicative competence. This is another dilemma. While it is good that some of you are embracing your Okun and Igbomina brothers, the lot have to do better to embrace them. They can only look up to the South West! The Northern folks will never allow an Okun or Igbomina man to "collect" what they see as theirs! |
Re: Some Igbo/yoruba Word Used In Urhobo/Isoko Language by Classicool(m): 11:51am On Nov 10, 2015 |
fratermathy:Nobody is circling them out..... Most Socio-poltical/cultural group that are Yoruba are doing their best so as to bring them back to the SW... Because in the NC they regard them as minority.... And that's why we always include them in every of our pan-yoruba meetings.... And two Yoruba in SW never see them Northerner.... Though they may be in dilemma but they will surely overcome.... 1 Like |
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