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Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by RealSleek(m): 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Dats a very nice write up, I dnt agree with it all but it speaks my mind at a point. Our so called men of faith indeed has no faith themselves, they cannot boldly lay hands anymore...all they do now is " there is somebody here who has an headache", out of thousands of pple, the chances there will be someone with headache is high- where is the specificity in dats??. so I just dont gerrit anymore. I pity those who carry their G.O for head. Many people may not agree with me, T.B JOSHUA is the only man of God I recognise...very down to earth and a giver...even if he scams he GIVES back unlike those who only buys jet , build expensive schools maybe to spite their poor followers -who knows...I watch the video clip where oyedepo slapped the alleged witch-girl and my stomach turned in disgust, would Jesus do dt fact is that our men of god(definitely not jehovah) has lost there soul to money, they hv been overcome by the perilous time of convenience. For everything gained there is something lost, in this case, our pastors' lost their faith but they gained money. inconclusion, the Op needs to understands genuine miracle still happens, only very very very very rare thank you. *drops mic* 5 Likes |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by mapet: 12:18pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
viktor01: In fact, the OP blundered on the point, because he did not state his own definition of miracles and check if it aligns with the christian definition of miracles. He comes up with a standard i.e. "grow a limb".............. Is that a standard definition or who says that's a miracle? How for instance do we differentiate miracles from magic or sorcery?. For instance, I believe TB Joshua is a false prophet, yet I watched how he pointed to a deformed boy (with twisted neck) and it moved back to position. Would I call that a miracle magic or sorcery? |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Kronos12(m): 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
We know that Satan is out to discredit men of God, we are not ignorant of the devi devices. We know that the devil is out to make Christians let down their guard(prayers) And we know that the devil want men to be carnally minded, but we that God that we are able to discern, we know that prayer is the confession of our faith, we know that the spiritual realm is alive, divine healing is true(Spokane was pronounced the healthiest city in new York because of the ministry of John G Lake, John G Lake proved divine healing by scientific methods), and we know that the Spirit of God reside within men and by that spirit He gave unto men Apostles, prophets, pastors, evangelists and teachers for the edification of the Saints. And what the devil is trying to do today is that he is trying to discredit the Apostles, the prophets, teachers, evangelists and pastors so that the Saints will not be edified. The devil wants to bring us back to those days where the word of the Lord were scarce because there were no prophets.................. BEWARE we are not ignorant of the devil's devices 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by 1freshdude: 12:19pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
mcdon1986: Doesn't it bother you that despite their fallen Christian moral standard they live a much better life in all ramifications than people in Nigeria/Africa who claim to be upholding the commandments of God? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:22pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
oglalasioux:Serious Hope, The reason prophets do everything they can to avoid being specific when they announce their prophecies is that it weakens them and makes them appear as charlatans. They are All Con Artists... all of em 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Kronos12(m): 12:23pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
mapet: Whoever gave you the right to call a prophet false........... Even when you saw the signs and wonders. Well Christ had said whoever does not believe in Me, he still will not believe even if he sees signs and wonders |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:28pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
donshady: Muslims won't come to this thread and call someone a fool because they don't collude in the same ideologies as them. Even Christianity in itself is fraught with too many factions: The Pentecostals, Catholics, C&S, Jehovah Witnesses etc. These factions all practice different doctrines. Some believe in Tithing under compulsion, some don't. Some believe in Hell, some don't. Tell me, do you mean everyone who doesn't practice and believe in what you do will go to Hell? How sure are you that the religion you believe in and practice is the right one? How sure are you that the faction of religion whose doctrines you hold to heart is the ONE? To acquire a more profound understanding of life and its attendant mysteries, you sometimes need to question your own faith even as a religious folk. Only through open-mindedness and reasonable inquisitions, will you gain a more profound understanding of the universe and act right. 3 Likes |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by AmbodOfLASU: 12:28pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
BlackPeni5: What do u mean by Spirituality? |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:29pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
mapet: Really, are you sure the neck was really twisted or the boy was paid to look that. way? A miracle is an event which upon all rational observations goes beyond the laws of physics, chemistry and biology.... When Jesus raised the Dead...they were people known by ordinary. persons and known to be truly dead, one was three days entombed...yet he was brought back....That's a Miracle... But when you bring someone who 90 percent of the congregants have not seen with the ailment and simply point ur fingers at them.....That's a Con Lie. Elon Musk Launching his Rocket to the ends of Pluto and re landing it back to earth for reuse....That's a Miracle I'd rather believe over Nigerian pastors nay soothsayers. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:30pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Christian s pls hold firm to ur faith cos its written in Revelation that some confusers will try to make u doubt ur faith but always stand firm.... If the OP thinks lacks of faith makes christains pray then my question is "Why Did Jesus pray" ?? 2 Likes |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by mapet: 12:31pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Kronos12: Bros, 1. God gave me the right to call a false prophet false - 1 John 4:1, Jeremiah 14:14, Jeremiah 23:16, Matthew 7:15, Jeremiah 29:8, 2 Peter 2:1, 1 John 2:18 2. Signs and wonder is different from magic or sorcery. Signs and wonders wins souls and makes them rapture-bound. It does not bread freaks or commercial slaves 3. I have FULL assurance of my salvation 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:35pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
mcdon1986:Good, now let me ask you this, of what use is morality, if it does not give birth to decent living, yes western nations have distanced themselves from religion, yet their society is decent with corrupt people watching their back because they know they can't outrun the long arm of the law, and the people's common wealth is used to take care of the people, fast forward to Nigeria where we are morally upright yet corruption have brought Nigerian to their ? Give me western Christianity where I pay tithe and the church is audited annually ,as opposed to Nigerian version where nobody has the audacity to ask the pastor any question I will take the former any day. |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:36pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Demmocrats: |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:38pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Now that the Nation is in economic distress, I think these Pastors and their capitalist ventures should be overtly taxed....they don't pay tax enough and yet live ostentiously. 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by BlackPeni5: 12:39pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
AmbodOfLASU: Religion is a bunch of agreed rules and regulations that bind a set of people together. Whereas, Spirituality is the personal relationship between a human being and a deity. You can be spiritual without being religious and be religious without being spiritual. Others try to combine the two. |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
blueseacats:guy you are purely ignorant,try to contact anyone living abroad who is a registered member of any church and ask him how much he donates in a month or year |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by mapet: 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
kazuna: Bros, I am not even bothered if it was stage-managed or not. What I know is that from all visible signs and spiritual insight, I know when something is not from God. That to me was not from God. Secondly, Miracles are not the essence of Christianity. They are just like means to an end. The essence is to be in relationship (i.e. worship) with him. This is lost on many Christians, talk-less of the gullible and the fakers. 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by dikeigbo2(m): 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Nobe small ting He who have ear,let him hear! 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Tamee(f): 12:40pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Hmmmmmn |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by funso111: 12:48pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
midolian:hmmm God will help u. One day u will need that prophecy for your life . my prayer is that u God will help u. In the book of isaiah that was a prophecy for the birth of Jesus and the prophecy came to past after over 400 years. yes there are fake prophecy from fake pastor but that don't mean there are no real prophecy. Papa adeboye is God chosen pls.kumuyi is a pastor that teaches the true gospel. Are u saying over 30millions xtian are fools. For British prime minister to knee down in front of papa adeboye to pray for him during their last election. God will deepen your knowledge |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:50pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
mapet: You are insightful here...The religion here in Naija with all the over emphasis on miracles can turn one into a Wailer. For a while there, I paused at that Second point....thanks |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by vicadex07(m): 12:51pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Lexxyfund: Pls abeg tell us. I need to strengthen my faith. Let God use you through your testimony. I will be waiting patiently to hear it no matter how weird you might think it is. |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by SHAIBULIAR: 12:52pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
I must organise some boys to stone some pastors tomorrow |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 12:54pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
kallmemrB:I live there , New Mexico to be precise. Yes they contribute and all most all go to less privileged in the society and the government knows about it as they are audited to be sure, and when you pay tithe the government gives you back your money at the beginning of the year. Am expecting mine soon by January, just maybe you are the one that's on the ignorant side. |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by GuyfawkesAB(m): 12:54pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
Here's another money spinner in the name of 'Man of God' being drilled by US Federal Revenue and Tax officers https://www.facebook.com/tzaahir/videos/10208132427298812/ |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by ThoniaSlim(f): 1:01pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
......... 1 Like |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:03pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
blueseacats:when has tax returns turn to tithe |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:05pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
kallmemrB:Mr. Tithe is considered charitable donations and are treated as such. If you don't know know now. Hope you know how irs deals with charity donations during returns ? |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:08pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
emusmith: Funny that those who barely believe in Jesus are less corrupt than the people in Nigeria who take religion hypocritically serious. There is correlation between how religious a country is and how poor it is. How bad it is and how corrupt it is. Sorry the countries that depend on their wisdom are actually currently doing better. Very much better than those waiting on God to come build roads, plan their cities and enforce laws. He mocks the fact that their is no proof of divine miracles today. I can perform a miracle. Any miracle if given the time. The same time it takes these so called men of God to plan a crusade and plan their so called miracles. There are so may people on the street, they need miracles. There is none that I know of that has been healed. There are over 200 churches where I used to reside in Lagos. None of those guys have been healed. Not one. He will need God and God will laugh? really? God does that? God is not childish. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Maximus85(m): 1:10pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
midolian: You didn't add PROSPERITY. What makes me laff most is their yearly theme. Since the 90's ooo My year of double grace My year of prosperity My year of double portion My year of divine upliftment My year of absolute grace My year of heaven on earth (lol) Just look at them, they are all stuck/trapped in the same spot. Only if they can get free, they will be more successful working hard and then praying to God to bless their effort. Good job by the pastors though, they well know how to fuel and ginger the gullible people's gullibility. The more they look, the less they see. Now, I'm waiting to be insulted. The truth is more bitter than bitter leave. 3 Likes |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by Nobody: 1:10pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
kallmemrB:Example this guy above just posted this, nobody will know this if not for irs audit https://mobile.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10208132427298812&id=1544605485&refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nairaland.com%2F2831220%2Fmiracles-faith-healing-prophecies-tools%2F2&_rdr. Now how do we know what our flamboyant pastors actually spend our money on? |
Re: Miracles, Faith Healing & Prophecies - Tools For Exploiting Gullible Christians by abbayrex: 1:11pm On Dec 30, 2015 |
This to me will be the best piece I have read this year. I hope our people are cured again the spell cast upon them by these charlatans who disguise as men of God. Most of them are senior occultic ifa priest. 1 Like |
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