jalether:

@ Krayola, you sure sey you never shack ogogoro when you posted that

haha . . . . at all, na kpoli.  I just wanted to make the debate interesting. .  I was expecting Sauron to back me up (Mr. Man Utd for life), but even Sauron sef no do. . .lol

I just think we are at a loss when we limit debates about great players to flair players. I think there are a lot of players that have left a mark, but either because they were not flair players, or did not win a world cup, no one talks about them. You have to remember these great players we are debating also played for great teams . . we are giving them all the credit for what 11 players achieved.

If Okocha ever played for Barcelona, or Real Madrid and won one or 2 CLs plus a few league titles in his career, I'm sure he would have a strong case . . but his name never comes up unless the debate is on Nairaland (Naija).  . . . .  I have a point . . right?


But seriously . . Cantona was  the team . . take him out and they fell apart, put him back in and the rest na story . . And If I said Okocha instead of Cantona, I doubt I would have received such a cold response.

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AIght. . . I'll drop it. I admit Cantona was a poor choice. .   

Krayola:

But seriously . . Cantona was  the team . . take him out and they fell apart, put him back in and the rest na story . . And If I said Okocha instead of Cantona, I doubt I would have received such a cold response.

U dunno what you are saying. . . . . .
Mark Hughes was more influential.

haha . . I'm King of Sweden.

Krayola:


I just think we are at a loss when we limit debates about great players to flair players. I think there are a lot of players that have left a mark, but either because they were not flair players, or did not win a world cup, no one talks about them. You have to remember these great players we are debating also played for great teams . . we are giving them all the credit for what 11 players achieved.

If Okocha ever played for Barcelona, or Real Madrid and won one or 2 CLs plus a few league titles in his career, I'm sure he would have a strong case . . but his name never comes up unless the debate is on Nairaland (Naija).  . . . .  I have a point . . right?
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Krayola check this guy out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9HF3cFLPIc


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAsXozyqK5Y

damn!! that guy is playa

No doubt, these three are the best anyhow we want to arrange it.

I don't think either of those videos, or anything i've ever seen of maradona will show me that he was better as a playmaker than ronaldinho at barca. It's just less popular to talk about him now because, let's face it even an 8 year old knows who he is and has seen him play. I think in about 30 years or so, people will consider ronaldinho might be considered the best ever (if he ever starts trying again). Furthermore, its ridiculous to argue that maradona was the best playmaker since i'd say even Riquelme is a better playmaker as well as Fabregas (who right now is less than 25), and plenty of others. As for all those videos, I can show you a video of Guti that's just as impressive, but I hardly think anyone would say he's the best playmaker. Also, to have this debate between 3 players when there's probably millions of players playing worldwide right now is close-minded.

Remove Ronaldinho from that list

juan roman riquelme

It beats me when people who don't know shit about football, talk football. Do they know that MARADONA played football at a time tackling from behind was allowed, where a defender could hack u down from behind and go free. I wonder if Zidan or Ronaldinho could have d guts 2 even play at that time. Those who have not seen MARADONA play shld go and get his dvd b4 making any comparison. I remember platini telling zidan that what he did with the ball, MARADONA cld do it with an orange. MARADONA the best ever in terms of playmaking, scoring, magic, etc. No basis 4 comparison. The guy was born 2 play ball, thats why he could talk 2 the ball. Respect Zidan & Ronaldinho though, but MARADONA is heads & shoulders above them. Did i hear some mention cantona, johan cruyff, beckham!!!!!!!! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese. Nuff Said

before you go bashing people for not knowing the sport, learn to spell Zidane. Nobody here is arguing that Maradona can't juggle/dribble an orange, its about who is a better playmaker - the fact that defenders tackled Maradona from behind has nothing to do with his vision on the field as compared to others. In that respect Zidane, Ronaldinho, and yeah, probably even Beckham (don't just judge him on LA galaxy, his crosses are absolutely stunning) are better playmakers than Maradona. That being said, Maradona as an overall player is at least as good as anybody else mentioned.

gicahagi:

before you go bashing people for not knowing the sport, learn to spell Zidane. Nobody here is arguing that Maradona can't juggle/dribble an orange, its about who is a better playmaker - the fact that defenders tackled Maradona from behind has nothing to do with his vision on the field as compared to others. In that respect Zidane, Ronaldinho, and yeah, probably even Beckham (don't just judge him on LA galaxy, his crosses are absolutely stunning) are better playmakers than Maradona. That being said, Maradona as an overall player is at least as good as anybody else mentioned.

you are high on cheap crack, go on youtube and type in ''maradona passing'' and see for your self contrary to popular belief

that maradona is a ball hog, even my friend who often envied zidane as a playmaker had to admit there was no one and i mean no

one better at giving deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona and until you can provide a prove my opinion holds strong.

its hard, may be zidane.

it still has got to be the argentine, DIEGO MARADONA

I tink its Mikel OBi

"one better at giving deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona and until you can provide a prove my opinion holds strong."

Juan Roman Riquelme. Fransesc Fabregas. Xavi Hernandez. Steven Gerrard.
You're argument is just that you watched a youtube video, youtube any of these 4 players and you'll see that they're better playmakers than Maradona and "give deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona" (i'm not even gonna comment on your grade 2 grammar abilities.)
If that's not enough I'll give you another 10 players, at least, who were better playmakers than Maradona.

zidane for me is the best

ronaldinho is prosecuting councel, maradona defence councel, zidane is the presiding judge.

gicahagi:


"one better at giving deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona and until you can provide a prove my opinion holds strong."

Juan Roman Riquelme. Fransesc Fabregas. Xavi Hernandez. Steven Gerrard.
You're argument is just that you watched a youtube video, youtube any of these 4 players and you'll see that they're better playmakers than Maradona and "give deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona" (i'm not even gonna comment on your grade 2 grammar abilities.)
If that's not enough I'll give you another 10 players, at least, who were better playmakers than Maradona.

A wise man use to tell me to never argue with a fool, nuff said

gicahagi:


"one better at giving deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona and until you can provide a prove my opinion holds strong."

Juan Roman Riquelme. Fransesc Fabregas. Xavi Hernandez. Steven Gerrard.
You're argument is just that you watched a youtube video, youtube any of these 4 players and you'll see that they're better playmakers than Maradona and "give deadly and accurate passes and assist than maradona" (i'm not even gonna comment on your grade 2 grammar abilities.)
If that's not enough I'll give you another 10 players, at least, who were better playmakers than Maradona.

jalether:

A wise man use to tell me to never argue with a fool, nuff said

nothing foolish about what he's said up there as long as he's mentioned JUAN ROMAN RIQUELME. . . . . .

Maradona got the boos in Boca just because of that man there - tells a lot, don't it

There is bound 2 b an argument in such a topic, diff people wit diff perspectives.
Maradona: made a name even when foothball hadn't.
Zidane: he orcastrates d midfield, i fear his flow.
Ronaldinho: great flair, skills, and a realy fast thinker wit great football stylish incentives.
If u should choose using when each players was at their peak, it would b RONALDINHO

I'd put Ronaldinho and Okocha in one category - the class of midfielders who are extremely skillful; but just lack that extra vision, that ability to totally control a game with accurate passes and impeccable ball retention. . . . . .

For me; Riquelme, Zidane, Xavi cut it as those kind of players. . . . head and shoulders above the rest!

I'm limiting my comments to players of my generation; I only watched flics and heard lots of stories about Maradona or any other so can't really say much about 'em!

as a playmaker zidane is better than maradona.

as of greatness zidane is better.

they can look close both zizou has an edge.

but for drugs and hand of god maradona is the best!

I'd put Ronaldinho and Okocha in one category - the class of midfielders who are extremely skillful; but just lack that extra vision, that ability to totally control a game with accurate passes and impeccable ball retention. . . . . .

Ronaldinho lacks extra vision?? I am not sure I understand you here

lacks extra vision but won the world footballer of the year back to back.

segunpc:

as a playmaker zidane is better than maradona.

as of greatness zidane is better.

they can look close both zizou has an edge.

but for drugs and hand of god maradona is the best!

only a fool with a British hate filled mentality ("i hate maradona cos of what he did to us"will reason like that,

have you ever heard of a term called objectivity ?, you definitely lack one

Papa Zidane haba,from begining to end of his career,okay just check out d 5 star performance in Germany
but jay jay deserves a place!

only a fool with a British hate filled mentality ("i hate maradona cos of what he did to us"will reason like that,

have you ever heard of a term called objectivity ?, you definitely lack one

you lack manners! and it reflects on what runs in your family.

In such a case, i'd say dinho is the prosecuting councel, maradona is the defence councel, and zidane is the presiding judge!

zizou will ever be the presiding judge.

someone said and i quote " zidane plays like he created football" and na ture talk.

zidane is just too good to be compared with maradona!

u can only see players like zizou once in a life time.

u can see many players like maradona e.g messi,cristiano ronaldo,arjen robben,brian laudrup and likes! This guys play like maradona and ofcourse without performance enhancing stuffs.

but the only player that do it close to zizou is berba but if e no b panadol then e no fit be panadol. shikena.

segunpc:

you lack manners! and it reflects on what runs in your family.

just further proves my point, cos if you are not a bastard you wouldn't dare mention

my family in this discussion, do you honestly believe you have manners, insulting someone's

family doesn't particularly do justice to your ''mannerism'' does it, what an hypocritical bastard.

back to the discussion maradona is the best playmaker ever