JmyNigaa:
Boss Hardon and my Oga’s i hail thee...


There’s this girl I met way back. I‘d bore her with the compliments and boring questions before stumbling upon this thread. I switch my game, on a good day she’s around my vicinity (@ her relation’s actually) so I go over as she’s new here. We vibe well and I hit her with the; I’m the cake you should be striving to have a piece off, the whole you love me and should impress me thingy. Goes well and I leave.


Next time she’s here, she beeps me and I go to her sisters place again to see her with picking her up in mind. Get there and she’s in a hurry to leave with me. I get chops (not to impress) and I resume my game and plant the idea of her staying over in her head without saying it outrightly(she was supposed to leave that day) and she takes the bait and calls her sis and says she’ll be staying over. Cooks food without me asking and all’s going well. I’m relaxed and she’s having fun too. Kisses here and there till she’s so comfortable to make videos of us smooching. We get on it, but midway my spell broke and I didn’t go in. Tz morning and we get all mushy mushy again before hitting the road for a trip.

During her stay; I’d occasionally rub in the; you know you love me and can’t get enough of me and all that.


She calls to make sure I got to the park. I said I’ll call when I get to my destination but didn’t and she calls the next day kinda pissed that I didn’t call and that she’s not getting the SORRY.

Then we text a bit on w.A:
Having teased her about me dropping in weight and how she should get ready to feed me till I’m round and all that. Says she’s not my cook bla bla bla and.....


Her: What do you want me to do for you

Me: Instead of listing things out; *Make me happy* covers it all.
Me: Making me happy at all times should be your priority.

Her: why should I make you happy?
Her: Am I your wife??

Me: (replying to “am I your wife”) Lol.... you’re moving too fast. you’re yet to pay my groom price and you haven’t even gone on one knee to propose with a diamond ring talk less of the fact that you haven’t done a nice job impressing me.
Delay further and you’d just miss this guy you can’t get enough of�.

Me: (replying to “why should I make you happy”) Making me happy is directly proportional to your happiness.. if you keep me happy , then I just might break my walls and allow you gradually move an inch closer to getting a favourable position.



Then I call to know if she was at my place when I left(As she took a spare key which I’ll be getting back), and she’s cold with replies and I choose to find out what’s up and she goes; “you’re annoying, you think you’re funny but you’re not, you’re playing games, you’re trying to play games with me, you can’t play games with me, you’re playing yourself”...not getting the whole thing she says: if you don’t know what’s going on, forget it. I just laugh and end the call.

Then I come online on WhatsApp and see she replied to my texts even before I called her.

Her: Gerrout




What could be the issue here?

Cause I planned on replying; Lol... you make me happy so I guess I’ll let you hang around me for a while�... Bore me and I’ll not hesitate to move away

JmyNigaa:
Boss Hardon and my Oga’s i hail thee...


There’s this girl I met way back. I‘d bore her with the compliments and boring questions before stumbling upon this thread. I switch my game, on a good day she’s around my vicinity (@ her relation’s actually) so I go over as she’s new here. We vibe well and I hit her with the; I’m the cake you should be striving to have a piece off, the whole you love me and should impress me thingy. Goes well and I leave.


Next time she’s here, she beeps me and I go to her sisters place again to see her with picking her up in mind. Get there and she’s in a hurry to leave with me. I get chops (not to impress) and I resume my game and plant the idea of her staying over in her head without saying it outrightly(she was supposed to leave that day) and she takes the bait and calls her sis and says she’ll be staying over. Cooks food without me asking and all’s going well. I’m relaxed and she’s having fun too. Kisses here and there till she’s so comfortable to make videos of us smooching. We get on it, but midway my spell broke and I didn’t go in. Tz morning and we get all mushy mushy again before hitting the road for a trip.

During her stay; I’d occasionally rub in the; you know you love me and can’t get enough of me and all that.


She calls to make sure I got to the park. I said I’ll call when I get to my destination but didn’t and she calls the next day kinda pissed that I didn’t call and that she’s not getting the SORRY.

Then we text a bit on w.A:
Having teased her about me dropping in weight and how she should get ready to feed me till I’m round and all that. Says she’s not my cook bla bla bla and.....


Her: What do you want me to do for you

Me: Instead of listing things out; *Make me happy* covers it all.
Me: Making me happy at all times should be your priority.

Her: why should I make you happy?
Her: Am I your wife??

Me: (replying to “am I your wife”) Lol.... you’re moving too fast. you’re yet to pay my groom price and you haven’t even gone on one knee to propose with a diamond ring talk less of the fact that you haven’t done a nice job impressing me.
Delay further and you’d just miss this guy you can’t get enough of�.

Me: (replying to “why should I make you happy”) Making me happy is directly proportional to your happiness.. if you keep me happy , then I just might break my walls and allow you gradually move an inch closer to getting a favourable position.



Then I call to know if she was at my place when I left(As she took a spare key which I’ll be getting back), and she’s cold with replies and I choose to find out what’s up and she goes; “you’re annoying, you think you’re funny but you’re not, you’re playing games, you’re trying to play games with me, you can’t play games with me, you’re playing yourself”...not getting the whole thing she says: if you don’t know what’s going on, forget it. I just laugh and end the call.

Then I come online on WhatsApp and see she replied to my texts even before I called her.

Her: Gerrout




What could be the issue here?

Cause I planned on replying; Lol... you make me happy so I guess I’ll let you hang around me for a while�... Bore me and I’ll not hesitate to move away

DieRich5:
bad guy............ wow I just saw this thread from someone I'm following I'm doing this format

HARDDON:
Meet her ordering food, u can poke in n say wow, all that for u? ( even though d fud ain't that much, blow it out of proportion ).....


Meet a very fair lady with fanta ( dont know y but they always drink fanta) n with a very surprised look , say: I tot I was dark until I met u n from now henceforth, I wud never taste fanta again....

HARDDON:
We go back to out sequence: thinking on ur feet n making new friends : different situations: practical examples n real life stories

Iamzealousman:
Hi good day house.

I have been following this thread since 2017
There's this girl I met in a city, when I met her I was working. She's the churchy type. Though she's independent financially. I asked her out once last year August she said no. Though she ever since I asked her out she started moving more closer to me.
But unfortunately I lost my job that same August and I wasn't motivated with her anymore. Because she became financially better than me and all sort.

I moved away from that city in search of a job, till now I have not gotten another job.
But I around February this year, she called me to inform me that she's gotten a job. And she complained that I haven't been calling her. That are we fighting?
I ensure I stopped contacting her anymore ever since I left that city.

I noticed after she got to Lagos she calls me more often. Even with the fact that I told her of my job status.(unemployed). She still keep calling
In fact around June this year she told me that she misses me. I said okay that I missed her more.
She has been trying to get jobs for me tho. She even informed me of a vacancy at her place of work. But unfortunately I missed out at the last stage of the interview.

Tho I like this girl but dating a girl financially buoyant than me is a problem.
And I don't really know what she wants if it's a relationship or friendship.
I wanted a relationship with her tho.

Part of the reasons why I don't know what she wants is that when we were in the same city. We go to church programs together etc and after work every day we walk together. People noticed this and they thought we were dating so she said we shouldn't walk openly together.

Now, I don't even call her she's the one that calls.

DaudaAbu:
Guy have you read this e-book


The game; penetrating the secret society of pick up artist by Neil Strauss

Thank me later......

Keep up the good job of de-hussing guys and giving them game

DieRich5:
bad guy............ wow I just saw this thread from someone I'm following I'm doing this format

anchex101:


You don show here from crypto thread? Lmaooo

DieRich5:
hahaha, I'm just trying to learn something new

Jewelprince41:
give us more fun Lon and examples for beta understanding

Iamzealousman:
Hi good day house.

I have been following this thread since 2017
There's this girl I met in a city, when I met her I was working. She's the churchy type. Though she's independent financially.

I asked her out once last year August she said no. Though she ever since I asked her out she started moving more closer to me.
But unfortunately I lost my job that same August and I wasn't motivated with her anymore. Because she became financially better than me and all sort.

I moved away from that city in search of a job, till now I have not gotten another job.
But I around February this year, she called me to inform me that she's gotten a job. And she complained that I haven't been calling her. That are we fighting?

I ensure I stopped contacting her anymore ever since I left that city.
I noticed after she got to Lagos she calls me more often. Even with the fact that I told her of my job status.(unemployed). She still keep calling
In fact around June this year she told me that she misses me. I said okay that I missed her more.

She has been trying to get jobs for me tho. She even informed me of a vacancy at her place of work. But unfortunately I missed out at the last stage of the interview.
Tho I like this girl but dating a girl financially buoyant than me is a problem.
And I don't really know what she wants if it's a relationship or friendship.
I wanted a relationship with her tho.

Part of the reasons why I don't know what she wants is that when we were in the same city. We go to church programs together etc and after work every day we walk together. People noticed this and they thought we were dating so she said we shouldn't walk openly together.

Now, I don't even call her she's the one that calls.

HARDDON:


Ouch, I wish I had read this way earlier

However, it's better late than never, Zealous man, if she is really your type, and you ain't in for just hit-and-run, I make bold to tell you that you have a jewel on your hands! Hope you haven't messed things up!




For you to commit this grave sin against me and your royal balls, ASKING HER OUT, you've obviously been skimming through the wisdom littered on this thread like a pig in the possession of a pearl.

Ofcourse, she'd reject you. You sounded like one of a thousand guys out there that have been trying to use love (asking out) as a shunt between meeting and mating. Gurls are wiser gee.
You haven't created any form of value around her yet, haven't broken any defenses, haven't as must as hit her with your sexy witty snowballs, yet you went to pop the love pill.

Now here is the deal;
For her to reject you and still stuck closer even when she is not getting any financial benefits from you means that;
1. she fancies you too. Just that you tried to rush things without owning her mind/world first.

2. She really would love to know the content of your character before any commitment.

3. She senses your insecurities about her being more financially stable. Your actions/subtle words tell tales unknown to you.





This is why I said she definitely likes you and has been hoping you'd call.
That her, "are we fighting question" means; 'hope you didn't take my rejection wrongly and stopped calling? I just wanted us to know each other better first. I like you toooooooo. Charlie! '




See? SENDLESS works like a clock!
Good a thing you didn't call.
this chasm/sendless attitude has helped you to gain your balls back. hopefully, we'd keep it that way? Though not with that your, 'I miss you more' bullcrap. What sorts of ducky response is that?
Whatever happened to 'i missed ME more?'
or 'yea, I know, If I were you, I'd miss me too?'

Whatever happened to all the cool/classy/cocky and attraction eliciting responses i've thought you? I think you need to go back to page one and do the honours all over again, this time, read slowly and jot points!




Here are some questions that can light up your path:
1. Do you think a gurl would just go out of her ways to stick around, wen she knows you are not financially stable, if she doesn't fancy you?

2. How many other gurls do you know that have called you for a job opening in their place of work or any other place?
This means; how many other gurls do you know that your concern is their concern and look out for your well being and happiness? Selfless?

3. How many gurls still call you even when you don't call them?

Wake up gee! Free the relationship thoughts and think about securing a job first.

You also need to work on mind as regards your woman being more financially buoyant than you. If she's a good gurl, that does not count. What is hers, is yours. Learnt this the hard way and from my usual source: gurls.
I can't imagine someone that has been following this light, these ways of the superior man, having inferiority complex because of disparity in financial stands.
Do you know how many times that I have pretended to be broke so that I can read the vibes from gurls I'm with? Guess what? most of them weren't really here for money. Heck, I said it long ago that this type of life makes you unveil ladies quickly. they can't hide under any cloud with you.
With the Foundation laid right at the beginning, they are more than happy and even count it a privilege to support you, if ever you whispers a complain to them without you directly asking.

They know a man's true worth lies beyond transient physical cash. His character, his unquenchable voracity for knowledge, his focus and undying spirit, his ideals, dedicated pursuit and the way he treats his woman. they know it's only a matter of time, you'd be super comfy and abundantly cool.



Don't let happenings of the past rob you of a glorious future. let whatever happened in the past remain in the past.
This is a new chapter. Hopefully, you would wake up to that rude realization and run with it.

THE GURL WANTS YOUR HAPPINESS and wants you close (hence her looking out for job opportunities for you and even wanting you over at her work place! can't you see? Take it that she is more matured now.

Glow with the flow. Don't ever make the mistake of asking her out again.
If you really want a confirmation that she's really into you, apply the principle I thought about knowing what you want before you even weave your web around a new one. As I said therein, knowing what you want (your vision) helps you to stay focussed and use calculated words that affix that in their mind whenever you guys are chatting/talking or out on a date.
Let's say you want her as you girlfriend:
Let's assume you guys arranged an outing. When she shows up, you can say,

1. 'wow, you look like my gf, but I don't have strenght for your troubles abeg.'

2. Hmm, babes, what is the plan with this your dress, are you trying to seduce me? you'd have to try harder! . den burst some laughter.

3. Wow, Baiby! you look smashing, dashing and dazzling with a cool smile to blend! let's get married already! but hope your anger does not boil beans?

Reciprocate her calls once in a while. Keep it brief though and always be the first to roll until you are comfy.

Read the thread and apply your own modified version into your life.

Ok, Bye

sajmark:
Sex is not a form of payment Guys, simps have overrated sex and skyrocket it's value but we know better.
Below is a woman who wanted to use sex as payment for $40 in a TV show set in 1878.
The man had control, sadly a lot of us would have fallen for this...
Let's work on controlling that urge Kings.

HARDDON:
SENSE PILL 5: If u can draw laughter from a lady, u r half way home, nonetheless, you r not to blame If she lacks sense of humour. Just move on


If you can draw laughter from a lady you are half way home, if you are half way home and she laughs, thatz a different ball game altogether

28plus:


Good afternoon Sir Harddon. I just stumbled on this thread and i can relate to 95% of it. I'm not naturally a great conversationist and I don't know how to make them laugh.
I'm in the categories of the good guys, boring guys (albeit unknownly), the wussbags, the ones that go with the intention of dating and is always careful not to offend. Thank you for this thread.

However, my question is, how can I turn the table with the girls already in my hands? Like, for those I've professed love, how can I turn the table and get her chasing me instead?

Thanks

HARDDON:


Hi, Don would do just fine.
glad you finally made it, I put this up here for people like you.

As with everything other thing you struggled with before practice made you perfect in them, you have to learn the robes.

Everyone can hold a great conversation, you just have to read wide ( start with how to make friends and influence people by Dale Carnegie) , get comfortable in your skin, hone your skills in the right environment with the right people(gurls that like you but you don't like) and don't be afraid to get it wrong in your baby steps. We fall, we rise. One step per time, b4 you know it, you'd be very good in eliciting laughter from even a rock.

To overcome the nice ass ish, read up this thread, start from the beginning. And henceforth, banish dating from your dictionary. you are not ready for that yet.
Have a mindset of just improving yourself for now, even when you meet new ladies.
this thread would teach you how to Expunge the weak airs and start sending less. Heck, you have nothing to lose. Infact , you are here to add meaning to anybody's life you let into your space.

An employer has no business seeking to please a potential recruit. it's the other way round.

Lastly,
it is not our intention to have ladies come after us, just like moth gets attracted to the force of light, so also, this way of life has a resultant effect of pulling them over.
Seek light first, darkness would naturally flee. ie, don't go looking out for how gurls would chase you, chase knowledge, they naturally can't but come when you hold this knowledge light.

Ok, Bye.

gabulose:
Please someone should help me. How do I continue this conversation with a girl I just met online

Me: Hello, how are you doing
She: I am fine, thank you
Me: your profile says u are good in statistics .pls can you suggest any good material?
She: yes, and she suggested
Me: thank you. I hope your work is going great
She: yes
Me: blank.....

Timibraun0010:
Please I need an advise on what to do. Have I lost her? Can I still get her ? .

We met online sometimes in October last year but started talking fully by Nov. By that time I had no intention whatsoever towards her. By Dec we've started talking everyday. She told me about her ex, the breakup and how she is scared of going through what she experienced again.

By Jan, she came to see me from in Osun from Lag and spent 4 days. I made a move on her but she resisted that she doesn't want any form of friend with benefit. All through ,there were smushes and for the duration of her stay, we slept cuddled up on the couch.
Finally she left back for her base in Kaduna. A week later, I discovered I actually want her but then I noticed she's kinda withdrawing.

2 days ago, she called that we have to talk. Before now, my emotions are already brewing . Making me to start thinking of her abnormally . While talking, she ask what was the impression I gave my friends about her. Cos she spoke with my friend and that one was whining her that we are bringing yams soon.
At the end, she said I should have cautioned him since we are not dating and when we met, she stated she wasn't looking for a relationship.

On my part, in a bid to flush out the emotion in me and probably forget about her, I asked her out knowing fully well what her answer will be.

Ofcourse she reminded me she isn't looking for a relationship and that even though we talk everyday, and she spent days with me doesn't mean anything. That we should just leave it at friendship but then, nothing is impossible.

Lemmie add that before she came, there jwas the plan of me going to spend time her at her base during my offwork month.
The truth is I actually want her now but I feel I have messed up greatly by not deciding what I want from day one, asking her out at that moment. Not securing her mind first by breaking her walls and fears.

How can I navigate through this and win her back. I know there are other girls but this is the only girl I've truly been happy with her presence around me.

HARDDON:


1. You are too available, too involved and too easily manipulated.
2. She is very manipulative. And oh how she swings you to her will so!

Since she said she wasn't down for a relationship (most gurls that do hookups do not have time for relationship stress) because of some ills from an imaginary ex, you went ahead to propose Friends with Benefits to gain easy access, which she checkmated. Then you try to play marriage cards which she still saw through.
In summary, you are desperate to hit.

It beats my imagination for a gurl (youve been talking with for 2 month) to spend 4 full days with you on a couch just cuddling.

How can you be talking almost daily for months and not have replaced all her red blood cells with your blue blood cells?

Best thing for you to do is to withdraw. Deploy SENDLESS for a while. Stop calling. if she calls, take your time to take, keep the Convo brief and tell her you've got biz to take care of and roll.
Other times, don't take the call.
Start doing the opposite of all you've been doing.


But the best thing for you to do is to totally ignore her while you spend your time reading from page 1 to 50 of this thread.
Improve your mind and learn the ropes first.

She's got your soft balls on the lock. This is the worst state a guy can be in.

Timibraun0010:


Thanks HARDDON,
My lack of situational awareness and inability to make up my mind from day one is the root of this. So I ended up floating throughout the entire duration .

To her, it was more than just we talking. She's fully aware and at each point she interprets my actions and guage it while on the other end, I was just having a discussion. At least, that's what I deduced now that everything has crashed.

I guess she caught feelings along the line cos I remembered just one Saturday I went for a friend's wedding with another female friend. As early as 7:30pm she was already asking if I'm going home with the couple. The next thing, was an 11 eleven missed calls and 6 on WhatsApp ,messages as well throughout that night till day break.

I have taken my L and moved on. I should be fully aware now that no talk is just a talk with a girl. They process it