Siena:
Yes. My children, they are my life, my world. Nothing, and no one comes close.

PresVA:
You love them BECAUSE they're your blood; you can't just forsake them.. To me, that's a condition. .. Would you love those kids "unconditionally" if they weren't yours?

Alll these people mentioning family members, you love them because they're your blood..a crucial part of your life..

Can you love a TOTAL stranger which you have no form of attachment whatsoever with, "unconditionally"??

E383:


Everyone is selfish mom. We all unknown to us (maybe) seek to please ourselves. Only God's love is unconditional.

E383:


Everyone is selfish mom. We all unknown to us (maybe) seek to please ourselves. Only God's love is unconditional.

Timbuktou:


Erm, God's love isn't unconditional. There are conditions attached. You have to be righteous to enjoy God's love.

Timbuktou:


Erm, God's love isn't unconditional. There are conditions attached. You have to be righteous to enjoy God's love.

PresVA:
Yeah right. . But God's still willing to take you back no matter how sinful you're. .. He delights in the repentance of a sinner and not his death or condemnation. . He even died on the cross for sinners; so much love

E383:



Read what you typed again and try to understand this.

By default at creation you were created righteous. Did you pay anything to be born? Did you pay anything to God to send Jesus to die for you? Is being righteous not supposed to be a default setting? How is that now a job? You are making it look like you are losing anything by following God by saying you are "working" for it by being righteous. Who made you righteous? Your works?

Bro, God's love is unconditional. You do not deserve it, yet have it. Even when you wandered of on your own he sought ways to bring you back without a price.

Righteousness is not a condition to be love by God. He loves us all regardless of our sins that is why he still sent Christ. But he hates sin.

Timbuktou:


If I wasn't created Jesus wouldn't have needed to die for me. Abi I lie I find it odd that God would create humans knowing full well he would Jesus to come and be slain to atone for sins. I would have made a very happy tree or chocolate bar. However, here I am, being told to hang on to someone's blood for any hope at redemption.

Mindfulness:




And you people still believe that God would make something like this even though he is Almighty?
I wonder how it makes sense to any of you, really.

Timbuktou:


My sister, make we leave talk of God to those wey dey believe.

Mindfulness:


I do.

Hello, are you satisfied with all the responses so far or not

Mindfulness:

I do.

Mindfulness:
The discussion is taking an interesting turn.

Why did you decide to bring time and effort into the discussion? Does loving people mean that you are required to spend time with them or make any efforts?

And more importantly, why do you have to consider anyone worthy of your love when the feeling of love does more for you than for the ones that you love because it is something that you feel and the feeling is good, isn't it? This is where people get it wrong most of the time. Hating or loving affects you in the first place, not the person you love or hate.

Of course it is possible to understand people today and to condemn them tomorrow. It is also possible to constantly seek to understand them. It is a choice if you want so. To what end? To feel good. You do it for yourself. Doesn't understanding feel better than condemnation?

Well, you can feel condemnation, resentment or even hate justly or unjustly. You can hold grudges justly or unjustly. The point is that it affects you. Forgiveness and love free you, not the one you forgive or love. In fact, you can hold grudges and hatred or love and forgiveness, which will affect you positively or negatively without the other caring at all. You choose how you feel if you have control over how you feel.

4nobody4every1:
Hello, are you satisfied with all the responses so far or not

EnlightenedSoul:


I agree

Well, that's interesting. It seems you've a contrary opinon, and I'm def curious to hear it. But, for me, making an effort towards someone else's happiness, or at least enjoying their company and wanting to spend more time with them comes with the territory of "love".

The feeling alone, regardless of how good it may feel, cannot be a stand-alone. Emotions, however powerful, are flimsy without reason as bolster. So, yes, they must be worthy of my love. If they aren't worthy of the energy, the time, the effort, they then cease to be worthy of the love.

I will allow myself forgive, understand, condemn and love if/when it makes sense to, as reason dictactes. If my love must flow ceaseless, unabounded, without rhyme nor reason, or rather with rhyme alone and no reason at all, then the recepient of said so-called "unconditional love" is of a plane with that sexy staring stranger over there, whom I also have no reason to love. Oh, and that other....and...hmm...yeah, def that...that, too. Yes?

See, there are conditions to everything and anything in this world worth having. Shall I suggest that anyone who desires so-called "unconditional love" reconnect with their best bet, their mother (that is, if they're luckyyy), or get themselves a pet, preferably a dog. That is why people keep pets, you know. There is a reason dogs have been dubbed man's best friend. The owner-pet relationship is one of rhyme. Were our animal friends of higher intellect, and consequently, of more condition, I guarantee you, we would not bother keep them as we do.

Timbuktou:


Oh, yeah? What variant(s) do you subscribe to?

Mindfulness:


Yes. I appreciate people sharing their thoughts on this topic. Why?

Just asking and following as a ghost reader at the background

Mindfulness:


Do you mean religion by variant? I subscribe to no religion. I just know that God exists but I do not believe in a God that creates people to test and punish them. It makes no sense at all.

Mindfulness:



I would not call my opinion contrary. It is just a differing perspective.

Why can't the feeling be a "stand-alone"? Why is it not enough to feel good? Why do you have to invest time and effort instead of simply enjoying a good feeling?

Your love does not have to flow but it can. It is not a must, it is an advantage.

Well, there are people who have the best of lives and feel unhappy and there are people who find happiness amidst of the most cumbersome conditions, which leads to one conclusion, you can feel good regardless of conditions and you can feel bad despite the best of conditions.

EnlightenedSoul:


Hmm...I know what that is, it's a fling?

Flings are good and all, they serve their purpose, but they're short and sweet (with an emphasis on short), which is reason why it flies to cruise by on nothing but the feelzsies. In any LT rel, you can only cruise the feelzsies for so long before you have to invest some time and effort, before you have to start investing something.

How? And what are the advantages?

Good point, and fair. But, personally, among the first set, I'd be on the lookout for the missing piece. Among the second set, I'd be trying my utmost to remove myself from said cumbersome conditions. I understand some folks make great martyrs, but, me, a martyr I do not make. Nah. Life, life is too short.

Timbuktou:


Religion/belief system, etc. So, what's your responsibility to this God or your relationship with Him?

4nobody4every1:
Just asking and following as a ghost reader at the background

Mindfulness:


Join us actively.

Sipping my water melon with Pop corn reading all the arguments

Mindfulness:


Responsibility? I have no responsibilities

Relationship? A very beautiful one.
Unconditional love and unconditional support is at the core of this relationship.

4nobody4every1:
Sipping my water melon with Pop corn reading all the arguments

Timbuktou:


Correct. You planning on monetizing your discovery?

Meanwhile,
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Mindfulness:


I appreciate the popcorn more than any of the responses.

4nobody4every1:

Mindfulness:


A fling? I wasn't talking about a fling. Some people love celebrities and do not invest any time and energy in them. Some people love their exes instead of feeling bitterness or resentment and without investing time and effort. Other people love the moon without investing time and energy in the beauty of it. Some people love Jesus and do not attend church. Other people love their dead relatives and do not invest time and energy in the relationship they have with them, which is mental and more importantly emotional.

The good feeling is the advantage and the empowerment that comes along with good feelings that are not attached to certain conditions is another.
See, if your feelings depend on how other people behave, then it means that you have no control over how you feel.

Nobody was talking about martyrs. It is about you being in control over how you feel and not allowing circumstances and people determine how you feel. This is why so many relationships fail. People believe that their partners are responsible for how they feel. If the behavior is pleasing, they feel great, if it isn't, they blame them. Where is personal responsibility in all of this?

Let me give you another example. A couple has been happily married for 20 years. One of the spouses leaves the other. The abandoned spouse can decide to hate the one who left and feel resentment and unworthy or the spouse can decide to appreciate the beautiful years they had and keep the loving memory while at the same time embracing a new phase in their life.