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Kog45, FYI.

TheGoodJoe:


LOLS. It seems you want to see two fighters.

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Kog45, FYI.

Kog45:
I don't want thegoodjoe karate but Alampasu is not ready and when he is ready nobody w tell us.

TheGoodJoe:


LOLS. It seems you want to see two fighters.

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Kog45 was the one that asked the question and I felt u are in a better position than I am to give the answer.

But why do you see Dele Alampasu as a better prospect than Emmanuel Daniel?

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Kog45 was the one that asked the question and I felt u are in a better position than I am to give the answer.

But why do you see Dele Alampasu as a better prospect than Emmanuel Daniel?

TheGoodJoe:


I tilted to the nod of Rohr. He watched Emma at the Olympics but chose, I think Ezenwa to camp . Remember, Rohr watched the NPFL stars Spanish tour. If Alampasu outclassed Ezenwa in camp, then I feel Alampasu is the better option.

I still believe in camping and if Emma can do better than Alampasu in camp, then he will get my nod. I do not think so and my heart lies with Alampasu.

TheGoodJoe:


I tilted to the nod of Rohr. He watched Emma at the Olympics but chose, I think Ezenwa to camp. Remember, Rohr watched the NPFL stars Spanish tour. If Alampasu outclassed Ezenwa in camp, then I feel Alampasu is the better option .

I still believe in camping and if Emma can do better than Alampasu in camp, then he will get my nod. I do not think so and my heart lies with Alampasu.

Kog45:
I don't want thegoodjoe karate but Alampasu is not ready and when he is ready nobody w tell us.

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Goal keeper selection is not like that o.

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Emmanuel Daniel was invited to camp against Tanzania and against Zambia. Rohr needed to see another youngster so he replaced Daniel with Alampasu. Ezenwa had always been in the squad both against Tanzania, Zambia and Algeria. So he was not like a replacement for Daniel. Akpeyi came to replace Ikeme.

TheGoodJoe:


Rohr should consider and look into those who genuinely want to represent us.


When I wrote consider and look into, I did not mean call-up. I meant check if there is promise. For instance studying the players tapes, watching matches the player is playing and if possible during foreign trips, watch the player live.

If Rohr feels the player can make the Super Eagles stronger, he can invite the player. I am always in support of the search for better players. However, the players considered must be those who genuinely want to represent us.

komekn:


There is a problem with our approach to Nigerian origin football players. We are not engaging them early enough we need to start from the age of at least 10 maybe younger.

My suggestion is creating an engagement framework where we monitor progress and even invite them for age group tournaments and events in England but organised by the NFF. Then later on in Nigeria you will have to invite at least one parent to come along.

At this stage you are creating identity and cultural affinity and recognition. It's making the Nigerian presence felt, seen and recognised. Basically being proud to be Nigerian.

There are parents in England who in thier desire to have houses in Banana Island and or to meet the multiple demands of relatives, literally work 24hrs a day. This means the children are left more or less to thier own devices and thier concept of Nigeria is not positive. Essentially the nonsensical propositions put forward on main stream television where they spend most of thier time.

However, there are parents who have taught thier children all things good about Nigeria and they even speak Ibo and Yoruba but have never been to Nigeria. Which is exemplary as we now have Nigerian born children who cannot speak a single Nigerian language.

TheGoodJoe:


I tilted to the nod of Rohr. He watched Emma at the Olympics but chose, I think Ezenwa to camp. Remember, Rohr watched the NPFL stars Spanish tour. If Alampasu outclassed Ezenwa in camp, then I feel Alampasu is the better option.

I still believe in camping and if Emma can do better than Alampasu in camp, then he will get my nod. I do not think so and my heart lies with Alampasu.

Kog45:
I know u w not want to hear this(experience)Ezenwa got d nod over Emma due to this and Alampasu got d invitation nod over Emma coz NPFL was on break

Rohr considered five good keepers namely Ikeme,Akpeyi,Ezenwa,Alampasu and Emma for Algeria match before he picked d trio of Ikeme,Ezenwa,Alampasu.

Ikeme naturally is d No 1 and Ezenwa was d best at home front,this gave d duo advantage and Rohr needed a young keeper that w under study Ikeme which gave Alampasu and Emma a chance but at d last minute he opted for Alampasu coz he can't have two home based keeper who are on break in a team.

TheGoodJoe:


If Emma convinced Rohr in camp, I doubt he would still need to look at others. He is still searching . So far, the best camping reviews we got went to Alampasu. Unless another attracts such impressive response from pundits and Journalists, my pick goes to Alampasu after Ikeme.

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Who told you Emma did not convince Rohr in Camp?
He is still searching you said. Have you heard he also has his eyes on another young goalie by name Nwokolo?

TheGoodJoe:


Until Nwokolo is invited to camp, I will not count him as a contender.

TheGoodJoe:


I tilted to the nod of Rohr. He watched Emma at the Olympics but chose, I think Ezenwa to camp. Remember, Rohr watched the NPFL stars Spanish tour. If Alampasu outclassed Ezenwa in camp, then I feel Alampasu is the better option.

I still believe in camping and if Emma can do better than Alampasu in camp, then he will get my nod. I do not think so and my heart lies with Alampasu.

Kog45:
Honestly your philosophy on camping is over exaggerated ,d efficiency of camping is always for academy or under age like U 17 or U 20 but senior team,camping is just to fix grey areas,for instance Eagles Right full back position or DM where w now have Ndidi and Onazi competing coz it w hard for Rohr to decide on whom to pick.

The senior team like national team is not a place where u throw everything open for grab,a good coach must have his first eleven to his chest,though one or two player might pull surprise by breaking into d team e.g.Etebo against Algeria.

No matter what happened before Cameroon match,i can tell u that 90% of those who prosecuted Algeria match w make d team. So camping sometimes in d senior team doesn't give rooms like under age camping where u are looking for d best.

On goalkeeping aspect,if i may ask u do u think Ikeme convinced Olishe during camping?NO.Olishe already see Ikeme as his No 1 choice irrespective of Enyeama performance in camp.Guardiola came in and said Bravo is d No1 over Hart,Mourinho rate Coutious over Chec,this decision is personal not camp decision.

It was on this thread i said it took Super Eagles goalkeeper trainer to 2002 W/C who was my university coach just 15 mins to rate Enyeama than Ejide,so sometimes camping does it in d senior team when u are having issues.

Alampasu is a young talented keeper coming up with a great prospect and wit time he w reach their but for now Super Eagles number 1 is not for a keeper keeping in Portuguese div 3,is an insult to our national team.

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Who told you Emma did not convince Rohr in Camp?
He is still searching you said. Have you heard he also has his eyes on another young goalie by name Nwokolo?

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I don tell TheGoodJoe all these things I don tire.

Kog45:
Honestly your philosophy on camping is over exaggerated,d efficiency of camping is always for academy or under age like U 17 or U 20 but senior team,camping is just to fix grey areas,for instance Eagles Right full back position or DM where w now have Ndidi and Onazi competing coz it w hard for Rohr to decide on whom to pick.

The senior team like national team is not a place where u throw everything open for grab,a good coach must have his first eleven to his chest,though one or two player might pull surprise by breaking into d team e.g.Etebo against Algeria.

No matter what happened before Cameroon match,i can tell u that 90% of those who prosecuted Algeria match w make d team .So camping sometimes in d senior team doesn't give rooms like under age camping where u are looking for d best.

On goalkeeping aspect,if i may ask u do u think Ikeme convinced Olishe during camping?NO.Olishe already see Ikeme as his No 1 choice irrespective of Enyeama performance in camp.Guardiola came in and said Bravo is d No1 over Hart,Mourinho rate Coutious over Chec,this decision is personal not camp decision.

It was on this thread i said it took Super Eagles goalkeeper trainer to 2002 W/C who was my university coach just 15 mins to rate Enyeama than Ejide,so sometimes camping does it in d senior team when u are having issues.

Alampasu is a young talented keeper coming up with a great prospect and wit time he w reach their but for now Super Eagles number 1 is not for a keeper keeping in Portuguese div 3,is an insult to our national team.

Kog45:
TheGoodJoe no easy now,so don't be tired.

Kog45:
Alampasu got d nod at d last minute over Emma for Algeria match coz NPFL was on break.Rohr can't imagine having two keepers who are on break in his team.Rohr even said it before rolling out invitations for Algeria that no room for home based coz they are on break,he only considered Ezenwa.

TheGoodJoe:


Mancini did not spend time selecting the best keeper for City. Camping and few preseason games was enough to make Joe Hart our number one over Shay Given who was an EPL great.

Kog45:
Honestly your philosophy on camping is over exaggerated,d efficiency of camping is always for academy or under age like U 17 or U 20 but senior team,camping is just to fix grey areas,for instance Eagles Right full back position or DM where w now have Ndidi and Onazi competing coz it w hard for Rohr to decide on whom to pick.

The senior team like national team is not a place where u throw everything open for grab,a good coach must have his first eleven to his chest,though one or two player might pull surprise by breaking into d team e.g.Etebo against Algeria.

No matter what happened before Cameroon match,i can tell u that 90% of those who prosecuted Algeria match w make d team.So camping sometimes in d senior team doesn't give rooms like under age camping where u are looking for d best.

On goalkeeping aspect,if i may ask u do u think Ikeme convinced Olishe during camping?NO.Olishe already see Ikeme as his No 1 choice irrespective of Enyeama performance in camp.Guardiola came in and said Bravo is d No1 over Hart,Mourinho rate Coutious over Chec,this decision is personal not camp decision.

It was on this thread i said it took Super Eagles goalkeeper trainer to 2002 W/C who was my university coach just 15 mins to rate Enyeama than Ejide,so sometimes camping does it in d senior team when u are having issues.

Alampasu is a young talented keeper coming up with a great prospect and wit time he w reach their but for now Super Eagles number 1 is not for a keeper keeping in Portuguese div 3,is an insult to our national team.

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Selecting a goal keeper for the league is different from selecting a keeper for the national team.

There is still room for error and recovery in the league. They train regularly together and player several competitions. But for the national team where you know games are very limited, u barely have up to 4 days to train in camp and every point gained or lost counts, it takes a lot more trust to select a goalie. There is no room for wild risk taking.

I don tell you to collect form for coaching u no hear.

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Selecting a goal keeper for the league is different from selecting a keeper for the national team.

There is still room for error and recovery in the league. They train regularly together and player several competitions. But for the national team where you know games are very limited, u barely have up to 4 days to train in camp and every point gained or lost counts, it takes a lot more trust to select a goalie. There is no room for wild risk taking.

I don tell you to collect form for coaching u no hear.

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The issue of having regulars in the team cannot be over-emphasized. To effectively build a TEAM u must have regulars. You are very right about this one. Barring any injuries/withdrawals I can personally list 9 -10 players that will start against Cameroun, Camping 'drills' or no camping 'drills'.

All those "if he impresses in Camp" thing TheGoodJoe is always talking about is just to.. Well, I will comment my reserve.

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The issue of having regulars in the team cannot be over-emphasized. To effectively build a TEAM u must have regulars. You are very right about this one. Barring any injuries/withdrawals I can personally list 9 -10 players that will start against Cameroun, Camping 'drills' or no camping 'drills'.

All those "if he impresses in Camp" thing TheGoodJoe is always talking about is just to.. Well, I will comment my reserve.