babasoty:

ibime mbire oo miee, i am sick of all this crazy bunch who never see anything good in the aspirations and desires of a people who want true federalism, we aint saying we want to form our own country all we want is the oil that comes from our backyard to be properly managed and we too should geta fair share, and we have some loudmouths here castigating boro, the two timing ibo's always wanna tell us we betrayed them, why wont i betray a man that wants to kill me. please if boro is no hero to naijaking or wateva his stupid name is,  HE IS MY HERO

The Biafran cause was like a can of mixed nuts. Thousands of Ijo, Annang, Ogoni, Ibibio etc believed in the cause and fought hard for it to the end. I mus say that the biggest traitors to the Biafran cause were the likes of Ike Nwachukwu and Ukpabi Asika (My humble opinion). It's a little bizarre that Nwachukwu's been parading himself lately as the "Quota" for "Igbo Presidency". . . whatever that means.

Afam:

Did Ike Nwachukwu fight on the Biafran side, Nigeria side or was he in any of the armies during the Biafran war? What was his rank and position if he played a role in the war?

babasoty:

cowards die before their death, a really wise saying a dummy naijaking who posted this thread is really what he is a DUMMY, look through your ibo horizon and point a hero to me, ojukwu who you boast about didnt even have the nerve to fight to the finish he absconded for phillips who incidentally had more balls than him AND IS A MINORITY FROM THE NIGER DELTA, why does the ibo man think you can achieve biafra with the niger delta being a part of it thats rubbish, boro must have fought with the federal side but he was wise enough to align himself with the lesser devil, the thought of the niger delta man having his revenge on the wrongs done on him by his ibo neighbour before the war made all of them to run and abandon their properties leading to the abandoned property saga, my village okrika was burned by the retreating biafran soldiers, and for your information port harcourt was invaded by the biafran army, their was no room for minorities in biafra, minorities saw hell in the former eastern region everything was either in aba or enugu and this was got boro mad, it was the eastern region government headed by the ibo's that were supposed to provide the soccour for the minority tribes but it was never provided and here you are calling adaka boro a coward, he fought and died on the war front that ojokuwu could neve and would never do.

erico2k2:

erm when did this fighting between the Ijaws and Urhobo people take place?

naijaking1:

Are you the only Nigerian who never hear about the problem of Ijaw and Urhobo people in Warri.

Ibime:
No, you are the only Nigerian who has heard of Ijaw-Urhobo conflict. Perhaps it is a spiritual war that you witnessed in your dream.

The one we know is Ijaw-Itsekiri.

Beaf:

Ibime. De guy na inventor! He's been caught making it up.

@naijaKing1
There has never been Ijaw-Urhobo. It has always been Itsekiri-Ijaw and Itsekiri Urhobo.
The roots of that problem lie in heavy Itsekiri involvement with slave trade.
They raided and sold Urhobo people, got rich on the proceeds and decided to lord it over the both the Warri Urhobo and the Warri Ijaw (Oproza's who gave both the Itsekiri and Urhobo land to inhabit).

Dede1:

It is shame that peeps who are yarning for federalism do not understand the significance of the word. And it is must ridiculous that certain individuals would indulge in blatant falsehood in an attempt to register blame against Ndigbo.

Ibime:

No, you are the only Nigerian who has heard of Ijaw-Urhobo conflict. Perhaps it is a spiritual war that you witnessed in your dream.

The one we know is Ijaw-Itsekiri.

na_so:

http://allafrica.com/stories/200805190366.html

http://nigeriaworld.com/columnist/okonkwo/092002.html

naijaking1:

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http://allafrica.com/stories/200811150077.html


Another round of crisis is brewing between the Urhobo of Warri and the Ijaw of Ogbe-Ijoh kingdom following alleged marginalization of the Ijaw in the composition of the Agbarha Community Development Committee, CDC, even as the Ijaws have petitioned the state government of the impending clash.

Governor Emmanuel Uduaghan had, last month dissolved all the CDCs in the three Warri local council areas and now in the process of inaugurating another body.

The Ijaw have are alleging lopsidedness in the composition of the recently dissolved board where they were given only one slot out of the nine available slots, saying that as major stakeholders in the area, they would not accept the alleged lopsidedness again.

In a statement issued on behalf of the Ogbe-Ijoh people by Messrs Oyimi Samson, Chairman, Ogbe-Ijoh Governing Council; Goddy Okosu, youth president; Clement Tekedor, Secretary General; Madam Queen Ajemotolu, Women Leader and Chief F.P. Oweikpodor, spokesman of Ogbe-Ijoh kingdom respectively, they maintained that the "composition of the past Agbarha CDC fall short of the requirements of Section 7 of the Development Administration Law 2004 as there are more than one recognized Traditional ruler in the area covered by the Agbarha CDC.

They stated that the lopsidedness in favour of the Urhobo have now given them the "false and erroneous impression that the Agbarha CDC belongs to them alone", noting that the "Chairmanship position, Traditional representative and at two members of the CDC be given to them this time in the spirit of equity and in line with Section 7 of the CDC Law".

However, Dr. Emmanuel Urhobo, a lawyer and senior member of the Agbarha Kingdom told Saturday Vanguard that the Ijaws are only trying to create problem where none exist, saying that "We are in Warri South LGA while the Ogbe_Ijoh people are in Warri South West LGA".

He stated further that the Ijaws are on the other side of Warri river and therefore should let the sleeping dog be, adding that the history of both kingdoms and peoples are known and very clear to the authorities.


My comments:

To Ibime and his blind supporters: We're not going to develope our nation, our people, and our principles without regards to the truth.
Maybe you're the one dreaming, maybe you're lost on what's going on at home, or maybe you just want to lie without evidence like Adaka Boro, but whatever your reason for misleading folks, it's time to rethink your position.

Yes, yes, and more yes, Ijaws in the west have been fighting with everybody, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Igbos, Yorubas, Edos.
If it's a good and justifiable fight, I don't think you'll be lying about it.

naijaking1:

~~~Yes, yes, and more yes, Ijaws in the west have been fighting with everybody, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Igbos, Yorubas, Edos.
If it's a good and justifiable fight, I don't think you'll be lying about it.

Dede1:


Unfortunately, some folks have gone from adequate contributor to ridiculously mediocre. The issue we had at hand was an attempt of making a hero out of a common criminal. Isaac Adako Boro was not a hero. The peeps such as Beaf, na_so, Sapeleguy and even Ibime had gone hair- wired in determined measure to twist truth and convert falsehood into truth.

@Sapeleguy

You tried very hard to blackmail both naijaking1 and me with such twisted post. But your intelligence or lack thereof reduced you to an inherent betrayal artist.

naijaking1:

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Another round of crisis is brewing between the Urhobo of Warri and the Ijaw of Ogbe-Ijoh kingdom following alleged marginalization of the Ijaw in the composition of the Agbarha Community Development Committee, CDC, even as the Ijaws have petitioned the state government of the impending clash.

Yes, yes, and more yes, Ijaws in the west have been fighting with everybody, Itsekiris, Urhobos, Igbos, Yorubas, Edos.
If it's a good and justifiable fight, I don't think you'll be lying about it.

$osisi:

I have thoroughly enjoyed this thread.
Kai dede and naijaking1, I salute una well well
Such wealth of knowledge

SapeleGuy:

"When Murtala Mohammed, Ike Nwachukwu and their fellow war criminals marched into Asaba, gathered over 1000 men, the cream of Asaba and surrounding communities at Ogbeosowa, asked them to dress up in their finest clothes, bring their music to welcome the Federal Nigerian troops, then lined them up as they were dancing for them and slaughtered them all, what did Ukpabi Asika say or do? When the same Murtala Mohammed and his men marched into Onitsha and came to Christ Apostolic Church they met 300 unarmed Christians worshipping inside the Church. They marched all 300 unarmed men, women and children out of the Church, tied their hands behind their backs and slaughtered each like a goat"

http://www.kwenu.com/biafra/vob/ukpabi_asika.htm

Dede1 - I deal with facts not blackmail.
There are two points that i maintain, these are:
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[li] If the 'water people' betrayed you, then acts of betrayal from your own people were of even greater significance. I can provide more evidence (names) if you so desire[/li]
[li]There are two leaders one fought to the death for his cause and the other ran away leaving his soldiers to be slaughtered and for Effiong to pick up the pieces. How can you call Boro a traitor? A traitor to what? the colonial, corrupt and artificial construct that was the eastern region?  That is as absurd as saying that mid west were traitors for leaving the western region[/li]
[/list]
Let everybody take responsibility for their own actions and destiny.

SapeleGuy:

Naijaking1-
I'm a bit disappointed with your rejoinder, you have consistently failed to provide tangible evidence. Be honest with yourself and your people. You have presented personal prejudice as fact, please change your ways this only breeds disharmony.

Beaf:

Sorry naijaking1. You are only digging yourself deeper and getting dishonest.

Thank God, I know Warri politics inside out; I know Dr. Emmanuel Urhobo and his family extremly well.

Dr. Emmanuel Urhobo is the most peaceful of all men.
You failed to mention the most important thing, which is; he is a lawyer who is the main legal advocate for Agbahra Urhobo's in Warri. Where is the war in that?

Ibime:

I had hoped that someone of Igbo blood would not resort to disingenuous reporting in order to paint his Ijaw cousins in a bad light.

There has never been any war, and all attempts by you to pull out links talking about "another round of crisis" will not work.

There is always "another round of crisis" in PH between Ikwerres and Ijaws in PH, but they have never fought.

Either pull up some substantial links or admit that you made an honest mistake, and mistook Itsekiri for Urhobo.

Yes o. . . . we always discuss heavyweight issues with kiddie gloves, like cousins should do.

I dont know about Ogu specifically, I can only say what happened in Ogan and Kirike. No doubt, there were atrocities on both sides. Should we close our eyes to the Nigerian atrocities and focus only on the Biafran ones? Ogan-Ama for example was shelled by both Biafran and Nigerian forces cos they didnt know who Ogan had allegiance to. . . . so who should we point fingers at?

Ibime, i am still waiting for babasoty to answer your question above. I read all his response after your question, and all i saw was a novice cleverly dodging a question that was posed to him. May i ask again, babasory, which part of Okrika was burned by the Biafrans?

erico2k2:

naijaking1
why are you going about on here posting Crap, are you begging for NOTICE ME or what, I'm an Urhobo, we have never and will never fight with the Ijawa,there was no publication of any fracad between the urhobos and the Ijaws,rather it was Itsekiri Vs Ijaws and Itshekiri Vs Urhobos (Okere people Vs Uvwie guys),dont talk about stuff you know little or nothing about Ok, stick to Biafra

You remain incoherent, and unorganized in your thoughts; after Ibime, SapeleGuy, and Ono there seem to be no other ND person that can properly articlulate his position on these issues without yelling insults like a spoilt child.

FYI, I did not write the Vanguard article in question, it's out and open for everybody to see. Being an Urhobo or an Ijaw makes no difference to the topic in question, ie, Ijaws occassionally fighting with Urhobos in Warri

babasoty:

well naijaking you should have done your research before posting crap here and insulting a people's hero, if you made your research you'd know boro is a hero to some people and respect that

I sure did my research, but it didn't suit your arguement.
Respect Adaka Boro as a hero He was a common criminal, who deserved, and infact did die like a dog.
However, I understand that one man's criminal maybe another man's hero.
Please don't come here looking for respect for Boro, you wouldn't get it.

babasoty:

if you did your research you wouldnt start posting that ijaws have issues with urhobo's