yarodin:

The killing of my brothers and sisters was eventually going to happen because at the time Igbos were advancing too fast.  Yes, majority of the coup plotters were Igbos, but the  coup became an Igbo coup once it failed and certain politicians who happen to be Igbos were spared.  For those saying that Igbos had no reason to plan a coup because we were already established remember Igbos both educated and uneducated were seen as advancing to fast and rapidly both in the Govt and private sectors.  I am quite sure there were already plans to contain this fast growth mainly from the Northern leaders land that is why Azikiwe probably tried to get the military involved.  The first coup became a good excuse to now execute their plans to slow down the Igbos and as you can see their plans worked.  Yes, Igbos were able to rebound from that brutal civil war but as you can see the playing field has sort of been levelled if not maybe we Igbos are now sort of below (Northerners dominating the military and govt sectors and the Yorubas dominating the financial and media sectors).    One can only imagine what would have been if the first coup had not taken place?  But something had to happen, there was just too much tension between the Igbos and the rest of Nigeria and in some ways that tension still exists but this time in the form of Christians versus Muslims.

yarodin,

Don't worry yourself at all. We are watching key statistics and figures coming out of various sectors in the Nigerian economy, and i'm glad to tell you that overall the Igbos are doing better than any other ethnic group in Nigeria right now. We have the facts and figures to prove it - no opinion, just numbers. So, we have already rebounded from the huge losses of the civil war.

Cohomology:

The only reason why anyone, including this Benin man called nex, would claim it was an Igbo coup, is to justify the subsequent pogrom targeted at Igbos in Northern and Western Nigeria.

Since they have no explanation as to why thousands of Igbo civilians were killed by other ethnic groups in 1966, falling back on the "Igbo coup" is the only excuse left.

It is not that these folks entirely like the killing of innocent people, e.g. they abhor the violence which frequently erupts in northern Nigeria where people of their ethnic groups are sometimes massacred, it is just that when it comes to the July 1966 pogrom, they make an exception, an exception based on the fact that those large-scale killings of Igbos exposed the ineptitude of the Nigerian government, hence a legitimate reason for Ndi-Igbo to want to leave the entity called Nigeria. This audacity of the Igbos seemed like arrogance to the other ethnic groups and further inflamed the pre-existing animosity towards Ndi-Igbo.

Furthermore, 40 years after the defeat of Biafra, it seems in hindsight that maybe, just maybe, the Igbos had some foresight, call it premonition if you will, about the fate of the entity called Nigeria. While the other ethnic groups refused to allow Ndi-Igbo depart in peace and did everything, including sacrificing 250,000 of their sons/soldiers (5 times what America lost in the Vietnam War - that's a different story) to keep Nigeria one, they went a step further after the fall of Biafra. They ensured that power remains out of reach of any Igbo man or woman. What has happened in the 40 years?

Well, over the last 40 years Nigeria, under the able leadership of non-Igbos, has been become a joke. One can even find many non-Igbos become so frustrated about the situation of things that shout "Bloody Revolution", "Divide the Country", "Odua Republic Now!", "Arewa Republic". A comedy of tragedies!

One would think that such calls will endear some of these people to the Igbos who, unlike the calls for "Araba" in then Northern Nigeria (which were based on a superiority complex, a la Islam, of the Northern Nigerian leaders), wanted to leave Nigeria because of the clear ineptitude shown by the Nigerian government for allowing (and facilitating) the murder of so many Igbos - which still happens with impunity even today, the reality is that no such feeling of unity has occurred. So, on the one hand they are frustrated about the utter uselessness of the Nigerian experience and want some drastic measure, however, on the other hand they don't want to scream too much so as not be seen replaying an old tape in a new jukebox. For some of these non-Igbos, the thought of this idea being an original Igbo idea (wanting out based on federal government ineptitude and injustice, not on religiosity like the calls for "Araba" and nostalgic Uthman Dan-Fodio moments)

What happens? The status quo is maintained. Rebellion has been officially outlawed in Nigeria by those who connived to checkmate the Igbo dream of Biafra, however, that puts ALL of them in a zugzwang! Rebel against the status quo and play up the discredited "Igbo idea"; maintain the status quo and continue "suffering and smiling".

The drama continues.

You deserve a drink!

Cohomology:


yarodin,

Don't worry yourself at all. We are watching key statistics and figures coming out of various sectors in the Nigerian economy, and i'm glad to tell you that overall the Igbos are doing better than any other ethnic group in Nigeria right now. We have the facts and figures to prove it - no opinion, just numbers. So, we have already rebounded from the huge losses of the civil war.

Remain Blessed!

chosen04:

You deserve a drink!

Remain Blessed!

chosen04, I like vodka and pineapple juice, thanks!

Andre Uweh:

You do not need to ask me that silly question. Refer the question to Ben Gbulie, afterall, he is still alive. I know you read a lot, you might have read his book ''THE FIVE MAJORS''. May be long time ago, but I advice you go and reread it.

So you want me to ignore the immediate actions of the plotters during the coup and accept the version of a junior plotter who wrote a book in the comfort of his home several years later? I think I go with the fact that Nzeogwu did not mention Awo when he made his broadcast.

Cohomology:

chosen04, I like vodka and pineapple juice, thanks!

That is also my favority, especially when served cold.

Pls send the add. for onward delivery.

chosen04:

That is also my favority, especially when served cold.

Pls send the add. for onward delivery.

Yep, cold. Done.

Katsumoto:

So you want me to ignore the immediate actions of the plotters during the coup and accept the version of a junior plotter who wrote a book in the comfort of his home several years later? I think I go with the fact that Nzeogwu did not mention Awo when he made his broadcast.

That shows you are selective when it comes to 1966 memoirs. Anyway, why have you chosen to ignore Ademoyega's authored book-Why we struck. Is it because he wrote that the event of Jan 15, 1966 was not an Igbo act?.
Now, I realise you read only books that will support your arguements. Wow, I am learning new dog tricks everyday.

Katsumoto:

So you want me to ignore the immediate actions of the plotters during the coup and accept the version of a junior plotter who wrote a book in the comfort of his home several years later? I think I go with the fact that Nzeogwu did not mention Awo when he made his broadcast.

Your being unfairly selective and looking away from facts that discredit your assertions.

There is no manual on coup announcements, and going by historical accounts there has NEVER been any coup in Nigeria whereby the subsequent head of state was announced during the initial coup broadcast. None.

Can you provide any?

The problem with most of your analyses is that you go in with a closed mind but want others to have an open mind. Learn to have a more open mind. You used to be more open when you started these discussions, but now you're becoming very closed-minded. There is still time to change.

How can you base your opinion of history on something without any historical precedence?

Andre Uweh:

That shows you are selective when it comes to 1966 memoirs. Anyway, why have you chosen to ignore Ademoyega's authored book-Why we struck. Is it because he wrote that the event of Jan 15, 1966 was not an Igbo act?.
Now, I realise you read only books that will support your arguements. Wow, I am learning new dog tricks everyday.

He is picking and choosing sources that only align with his made-up view of the world.

Cohomology:

He is picking and choosing sources that only align with his made-up view of the world.

All along, I have been wrong in thinking that the chap is one of the best brains from Yorubaland here. I thank God for this thread as it has now made me to think differently.

From the reviews by notable people such as Mr Kaye Whiteman, I have to read Max Siollun's book and it would be better to read the book first before addressing the important issues.

We need more books on the contemporary political history of Nigeria.

Cohomology:

The [b]only reason why anyone, including this Benin man called nex, would claim it was an Igbo coup, is to justify the subsequent pogrom targeted at Igbos in Northern and Western Nigeria.

Since they have no explanation as to why thousands of Igbo civilians were killed by other ethnic groups in 1966, falling back on the "Igbo coup" is the only excuse left.[/b]

It is not that these folks entirely like the killing of innocent people, e.g. they abhor the violence which frequently erupts in northern Nigeria where people of their ethnic groups are sometimes massacred, it is just that when it comes to the July 1966 pogrom, they make an exception, an exception based on the fact that those large-scale killings of Igbos exposed the ineptitude of the Nigerian government, hence a legitimate reason for Ndi-Igbo to want to leave the entity called Nigeria. This audacity of the Igbos seemed like arrogance to the other ethnic groups and further inflamed the pre-existing animosity towards Ndi-Igbo.

Furthermore, 40 years after the defeat of Biafra, it seems in hindsight that maybe, just maybe, the Igbos had some foresight, call it premonition if you will, about the fate of the entity called Nigeria. [/b]While the other ethnic groups refused to allow Ndi-Igbo depart in peace and did everything, including sacrificing 250,000 of their sons/soldiers (5 times what America lost in the Vietnam War - that's a different story) to keep Nigeria one, they went a step further after the fall of Biafra. They ensured that power remains out of reach of any Igbo man or woman. What has happened in the 40 years?

[b]Well, over the last 40 years Nigeria, under the able leadership of non-Igbos, has become a joke. One can even find many non-Igbos become so frustrated about the situation of things that they shout "Bloody Revolution", "Divide the Country", "Odua Republic Now!", "Arewa Republic". A comedy of tragedies!

One would think that such calls will endear some of these people to the Igbos who, unlike the calls for "Araba" in then Northern Nigeria (which were based on a superiority complex, a la Islam, of the Northern Nigerian leaders), wanted to leave Nigeria because of the clear ineptitude shown by the Nigerian government for allowing (and facilitating) the murder of so many Igbos - which still happens with impunity even today, the reality is that no such feeling of unity has occurred. So, on the one hand they are frustrated about the utter uselessness of the Nigerian experience and want some drastic measure, however, on the other hand they don't want to scream too much so as not be seen replaying an old tape in a new jukebox. For some of these non-Igbos, the thought of this idea being an original Igbo idea (wanting out based on federal government ineptitude and injustice, not on religiosity like the calls for "Araba" and nostalgic Uthman Dan-Fodio moments)

What happens? The status quo is maintained. Rebellion has been officially outlawed in Nigeria by those who connived to checkmate the Igbo dream of Biafra, however, that puts ALL of them in a zugzwang! Rebel against the status quo and play up the discredited "Igbo idea"; maintain the status quo and continue "suffering and smiling".

The drama continues.

What is the correlation between stating that it was an Igbo coup and the pogroms which followed? Are they not mutually exclusive events? Is it not possible for one to state that it was a coup organised by Igbo officers without wanting the deaths of innocent people? Does the senseless pogroms justify the deaths of those killed in January 1966? Please lets leave sensationalism out of analysis. Were non-Igbo citizens singing hosana when the pogroms took place?

Your attempts at exonerating Ndigbo from the malaise bedeviling Nigeria is naive at best and mischievous at worst. Did you forget the actions of Igbo sons in forming the entity called Nigeria. Perhaps you are unaware of several events in our history. One did not need a soothsayer to know that the amalgamation of the various bodies into Nigeria would be a disaster. The British lumped the Republican Igbo, the feudal North together with the semi-republican and semi-feudal yoruba to form a nation. But the same British offered each region complete autonomy in 1957 with Awo accepting, Bello rejecting (on the basis that the North wasn't ready), and with Zik holding the deciding vote. What did Zik do? He chose to delay independence by three years so as to achieve a personal ambition of ruling over a UNIFIED Nigeria. Each region could have been autonomous by 1957 but instead we got Nigeria.

Then when the time for forming a coalition came, what did Zik do, he chose to serve under the errand boy (Balewa) of his rival Bello. Lets not forget that if you put Bello and Balewa together, they wouldn't be as educated and enlightened as Zik's left leg. Did you need a soothsayer to also tell you that a feudal North is the antithesis of a republican Ndigbo? The marriage between the two regions leads to the first coup in January 66 and the revenge coup in July 1967. Yet Cohomology wants us to believe that Ndigbo is blameless.

Who is to blame? Is it the North that did not want independence, was just satisfied with being ruled by the British and had its reverred leaders murdered and sought revenge? Or is it the West that wanted complete autonomy, was rebuffed by the other regions and was a bystander in the events of the 66? or is it Ndigbo who chose to unify Nigeria, delaying independence in the process, chose to get in bed with a suitor that wasn't suited to it and subsequently carried out the first putsch in the new nation killing non-Igbo citizens in the process?

Andre Uweh:

That shows you are selective when it comes to 1966 memoirs. Anyway, why have you chosen to ignore Ademoyega's authored book-Why we struck. Is it because he wrote that the event of Jan 15, 1966 was not an Igbo act?.
Now, I realise you read only books that will support your arguements. Wow, I am learning new dog tricks everyday.

How did I ignore Ademoyega's book? Perhaps you are not aware of my position on the coup.

Katsumoto:

What is the correlation between stating that it was an Igbo coup and the pogroms which followed? Are they not mutually exclusive events? Is it not possible for one to state that it was a coup organised by Igbo officers without wanting the deaths of innocent people? Does the senseless pogroms justify the deaths of those killed in January 1966? Please lets leave sensationalism out of analysis. Were non-Igbo citizens singing hosana when the pogroms took place?

Your attempts at exonerating Ndigbo from the malaise bedeviling Nigeria is naive at best and mischievous at worst. Did you forget the actions of Igbo sons in forming the entity called Nigeria. Perhaps you are unaware of several events in our history. One did not need a soothsayer to know that the amalgamation of the various bodies into Nigeria would be a disaster. The British lumped the Republican Igbo, the feudal North together with the semi-republican and semi-feudal yoruba to form a nation. But the same British offered each region complete autonomy in 1957 with Awo accepting, Bello rejecting (on the basis that the North wasn't ready), and with Zik holding the deciding vote. What did Zik do? He chose to delay independence by three years so as to achieve a personal ambition of ruling over a UNIFIED Nigeria. Each region could have been autonomous by 1957 but instead we got Nigeria.

Then when the time for forming a coalition came, what did Zik do, he chose to serve under the errand boy (Balewa) of his rival Bello. Lets not forget that if you put Bello and Balewa together, they wouldn't be as educated and enlightened as Zik's left leg. Did you need a soothsayer to also tell you that a feudal North is the antithesis of a republican Ndigbo? The marriage between the two regions leads to the first coup in January 66 and the revenge coup in July 1967. Yet Cohomology wants us to believe that Ndigbo is blameless.

Who is to blame? Is it the North that did not want independence, was just satisfied with being ruled by the British and had its reverred leaders murdered and sought revenge? Or is it the West that wanted complete autonomy, was rebuffed by the other regions and was a bystander in the events of the 66? or is it Ndigbo who chose to unify Nigeria, delaying independence in the process, chose to get in bed with a suitor that wasn't suited to it and subsequently carried out the first putsch in the new nation killing non-Igbo citizens in the process?

Fair analysis of part I.

How about part II, post-civil war? How have the Hausa and Yoruba leaders done so far?

I mean, it is clear that the policy after the war was to marginalize the rebellious Igbo. How is that working for ya?

Cohomology:

Your being unfairly selective and looking away from facts that discredit your assertions.

There is no manual on coup announcements, and going by historical accounts there has NEVER been any coup in Nigeria whereby the subsequent head of state was announced during the initial coup broadcast. None.

Can you provide any?

The problem with most of your analyses is that you go in with a closed mind but want others to have an open mind. Learn to have a more open mind. You used to be more open when you started these discussions, but now you're becoming very closed-minded. There is still time to change.

How can you base your opinion of history on something without any historical precedence?

I get your point but you are ignoring my point. How are we to know that the plotters were going to make Awo PM? Ademoyega never said that in his book.
OK, Why don't you prove to me that Awo was going to be installed as PM/President? Do you see how difficult that is? The January plotters were not successful and stating several years later that they were going to install Awo could have just been seen as playing to the gallery.

Nzeogwu held Kaduna, Lagos had failed. Ojukwu held Kano. If it really was their intention to free Awo, that would have been the time to do it. Because it may have brought support to them from the South. Its like a man who breaks into your house in the middle of the night and tells you that he came to return the money you lent him a few weeks ago. If he succeeded in breaking in and leaving the money, then you can believe him but if you catch him in the middle of the night, there is no way you are going to believe him.

Cohomology:

Fair analysis of part I.

How about part II, post-civil war? How have the Hausa and Yoruba leaders done so far?

I mean, it is clear that the policy after the war was to marginalize the rebellious Igbo. How is that working for ya?

I do not give a rat's a.s.s who rules Nigeria. At the end of the day, all Nigerian's are paying for the corrupt leadership in Nigeria. Even the rich men suffer in Nigeria. When they have road accidents or develop heart attacks, no medium can get them to superior treatment in Eurpe quick enough. Rich people live in big houses that have all kinds of security arrangements; they can't drive in peace because of bad roads and armed robbers.

I could take a selfish view that I am not as affected as some but what is the point of that. I know my country is capable of much more. The people ruling Nigeria only use tribalism to further their ways while they are looting the treasury. Are the Northern elite taking care of their people? Yet they loot the most and are the most undeserving. Give me an Efik who can change Nigeria and Ill accept him/her with open arms.

Katsumoto:

What is the correlation between stating that it was an Igbo coup and the pogroms which followed? Are they not mutually exclusive events? Is it not possible for one to state that it was a coup organised by Igbo officers without wanting the deaths of innocent people? Does the senseless pogroms justify the deaths of those killed in January 1966? Please lets leave sensationalism out of analysis. Were non-Igbo citizens singing hosana when the pogroms took place?

Your attempts at exonerating Ndigbo from the malaise bedeviling Nigeria is naive at best and mischievous at worst. Did you forget the actions of Igbo sons in forming the entity called Nigeria. Perhaps you are unaware of several events in our history. One did not need a soothsayer to know that the amalgamation of the various bodies into Nigeria would be a disaster. The British lumped the Republican Igbo, the feudal North together with the semi-republican and semi-feudal yoruba to form a nation. But the same British offered each region complete autonomy in 1957 with Awo accepting, Bello rejecting (on the basis that the North wasn't ready), and with Zik holding the deciding vote. What did Zik do? He chose to delay independence by three years so as to achieve a personal ambition of ruling over a UNIFIED Nigeria. Each region could have been autonomous by 1957 but instead we got Nigeria.

Then when the time for forming a coalition came, what did Zik do, he chose to serve under the errand boy (Balewa) of his rival Bello. Lets not forget that if you put Bello and Balewa together, they wouldn't be as educated and enlightened as Zik's left leg. Did you need a soothsayer to also tell you that a feudal North is the antithesis of a republican Ndigbo? The marriage between the two regions leads to the first coup in January 66 and the revenge coup in July 1967. Yet Cohomology wants us to believe that Ndigbo is blameless.

Who is to blame? Is it the North that did not want independence, was just satisfied with being ruled by the British and had its reverred leaders murdered and sought revenge? Or is it the West that wanted complete autonomy, was rebuffed by the other regions and was a bystander in the events of the 66? or is it Ndigbo who chose to unify Nigeria, delaying independence in the process, chose to get in bed with a suitor that wasn't suited to it and subsequently carried out the first putsch in the new nation killing non-Igbo citizens in the process?

Why not go back to 1914 to remind us how Igbo helped Lord Lugard to form Nigeria, and how prior to that Igbo  told the British to head to Nigeria?
The fact is that you will NEVER accept the truth, because if you do you will have to account for the thousands that were murdered in the aftermath of the coup.

You vehemently refused to answer why the coup plotters completely left Awo alive in Calabar since they were planning total Igbo domination of Nigeria. At first, you tried to convince me that Calabar was not within reach. When I reminded you that Calabar was within a walking distance of my village, you changed again to something else -that Awo was under guard. I then reminded you that the coup plotters were heavily armed soldiers who could overwhelm mere prison guards in Eastern Nigerian jail. You still changed your point again.

You can choose to say whatever you want (you know the truth).  When one of the coup plotters stated that they wanted to enthrone Awolowo, a discerning mind would likely believe him because after all Awo is not a small fish by any measure at that time.
An "Igbo coup", planning to dominate Nigeria, would not miss Awo at all. Yet, he survived, to be freed by Ojukwu (because Ojukwu could still have defied Gowon over Awo's release). Ojukwu sent Awo home hale and hearty only for him to plot the most invidious extermination of the same people that saved him.

Cohomology:

He is picking and choosing sources that only align with his made-up view of the world.

Andre Uweh:

All along, I have been wrong in thinking that the chap is one of the best brains from Yorubaland here. I thank God for this thread as it has now made me to think differently.

I am not here to win any awards. I will only tell it like I see it. I have argued, based on the literature that I have read over the years, that there were two factions in that Jan coup. Nzeogwu and Ademoyega provided the noble 'we are going to get rid of the rot in Nigeria' end while Ifeajuna and others were on an ethnic mission. I give my reasons
1. Nzeogwu was recruited by Anuforo and Nzeogwu recruited Ademoyega. Ademoyega was the last to be recruited while Nzeogwu was the second to last. It is conceivable that Nzeogwu and Ademoyega were not privy to earlier agreements and plans
2. Nzeogwu's socialist views were well known before the coup. He had gotten into trouble with senior officers who were concerned about his very vociferous views.
3. The selective manner of carrying out the assasinations. No one has ever said that Okotie-Eboh, Akintola, Bello, Balewa, etc were saints but in the first four years of the government, there were Northern and Eastern members in the coalition. The position that there were no corrupt Igbo pliticians is laughable.
4. The constitutional crisis of January 65 which resulted in Zik being told the limit of his powers after he tried to use the military to dissolve the government.
5. Zik's disappearance from Nigeria while his cousin Ifeajuna carried out an ethnic cleansing. Zik's disappearance all the more curious considering that Nigeria was hosting its first Commonwealth PM's conference and Zik was Head of State. Also, Zik's personal physician leaving Zik in the caribbean after running out of patience with a healthy patient who refused to return home.
6. The killing of non-Igbo officers while Igbo officers (except for Unegbe) were spared.
7. After killing Balewa, Ifeajuna traveled to Enugu to see Michael Okpara (Eastern Region Premier) in the early hours of the 14th before escaping to Ghana.

I have provided evidence to support this before, if you want to see it again, I can oblige you.

Onlytruth:

Why not go back to 1914 to remind us how Igbo helped Lord Lugard to form Nigeria, and how prior to that Igbo  told the British to head to Nigeria?
The fact is that you will NEVER accept the truth, because if you do you will have to account for the thousands that were murdered in the aftermath of the coup.

You vehemently refused to answer why the coup plotters completely left Awo alive in Calabar since they were planning total Igbo domination of Nigeria. At first, you tried to convince me that Calabar was not within reach. When I reminded you that Calabar was within a walking distance of my village, you changed again to something else -that Awo was under guard. I then reminded you that the coup plotters were heavily armed soldiers who could overwhelm mere prison guards in Eastern Nigerian jail. You still changed your point again.

You can choose to say whatever you want (you know the truth).  When one of the coup plotters stated that they wanted to enthrone Awolowo, a discerning mind would likely believe him because after all Awo is not a small fish by any measure at that time.
An "Igbo coup", planning to dominate Nigeria, would not miss Awo at all. Yet, he survived, to be freed by Ojukwu (because Ojukwu could still have defied Gowon over Awo's release). Ojukwu sent Awo home hale and hearty only for him to plot the most invidious extermination of the same people that saved him.

Yes Lugard amalgamated Nigeria in 1914 but in 1957, James Robertson offered each region complete autonomy. We couldn't have done anything about the amalgamation in 1914 but we had options in 1957.

I am sorry to say but you argue like a child. 8 coup plotters who were not rich in resources are about to take on targets in Kaduna and Lagos and you are expecting them to expend resources in taking out a man who was in jail. I answered your moronic argument the other day but you are not satisfied. What was the point in expending resources to go to Calabar to kill Awo in prison. Now, of all the plotters, who would you have sent to Calabar? They were so under-staffed that it was Captain Nwobosi that was sent to Akintola in Ibadan. Not forgetting that Obienu did not turn up for the coup. Tell me, what would have been the point in wasting scarce resources to kill Awo when Awo would have still been in prison had the coup succeeded?

Why do I have to account for the thousands of people killed in the pogroms or the civil war? was I a party to it? was I even born. Stop personalising the argument. Just focus on the argument and stop your usual tactics of attacking the person that disagrees with you.

Katsumoto:

I am not here to win any awards. I will only tell it like I see it. I have argued, based on the literature that I have read over the years, that there were two factions in that Jan coup. Nzeogwu and Ademoyega provided the noble 'we are going to get rid of the rot in Nigeria' end while Ifeajuna and others were on an ethnic mission. I give my reasons
1. Nzeogwu was recruited by Anuforo and Nzeogwu recruited Ademoyega. Ademoyega was the last to be recruited while Nzeogwu was the second to last. It is conceivable that Nzeogwu and Ademoyega were not privy to earlier agreements and plans
2. Nzeogwu's socialist views were well known before the coup. He had gotten into trouble with senior officers who were concerned about his very vociferous views.
3. The selective manner of carrying out the assasinations. No one has ever said that Okotie-Eboh, Akintola, Bello, Balewa, etc were saints but in the first four years of the government, there were Northern and Eastern members in the coalition. The position that there were no corrupt Igbo pliticians is laughable.
4. The constitutional crisis of January 65 which resulted in Zik being told the limit of his powers after he tried to use the military to dissolve the government.
5. Zik's disappearance from Nigeria while his cousin Ifeajuna carried out an ethnic cleansing. Zik's disappearance all the more curious considering that Nigeria was hosting its first Commonwealth PM's conference and Zik was Head of State. Also, Zik's personal physician leaving Zik in the caribbean after running out of patience with a healthy patient who refused to return home.
6. The killing of non-Igbo officers while Igbo officers (except for Unegbe) were spared.
7. After killing Balewa, Ifeajuna traveled to Enugu to see Michael Okpara (Eastern Region Premier) in the early hours of the 14th before escaping to Ghana.

I have provided evidence to support this before, if you want to see it again, I can oblige you.

Lemme help these crazy Ibo dudes argue against this last post of yours: "But they killed us and stole our money and property and did not let us kill them in return".

Hey, ibo dudes, I hope I sounded crazy enough?!?

Katsumoto:

Yes Lugard amalgamated Nigeria in 1914 but in 1957, James Robertson offered each region complete autonomy. We couldn't have done anything about the amalgamation in 1914 but we had options in 1957.

I am sorry to say but you argue like a child. 8 coup plotters who were not rich in resources are about to take on targets in Kaduna and Lagos and you are expecting them to expend resources in taking out a man who was in jail. I answered your moronic argument the other day but you are not satisfied. What was the point in expending resources to go to Calabar to kill Awo in prison. Now, of all the plotters, who would you have sent to Calabar? They were so under-staffed that it was Captain Nwobosi that was sent to Akintola in Ibadan. Not forgetting that Obienu did not turn up for the coup. Tell me, what would have been the point in wasting scarce resources to kill Awo when Awo would have still been in prison had the coup succeeded?

Why do I have to account for the thousands of people killed in the pogroms or the civil war? was I a party to it? was I even born. Stop personalising the argument. Just focus on the argument and stop your usual tactics of attacking the person that disagrees with you.

Dude, these monkeys know the truth but they choose to ignore it, thats their freaking problem. They got greedy, they paid for it! Big wonder why nobody else can get along with the ibo man!

bk/babe90:

Dude, these monkeys know the truth but they choose to ignore it, thats their freaking problem. They got greedy, they paid for it! Big wonder why nobody else can get along with the ibo man!

The ugly duckling, get your person soul out of here. No one is interested in your posts. Reason, because you are so ugly that you should not play hide and seek, no one would look for you. Zap OFFFF,

Andre Uweh:

The ugly duckling, get your person soul out of here. No one is interested in your posts. Reason, because you are so ugly that you should not play hide and seek, no one would look for you. Zap OFFFF,

I see ure trying to up ur wittiness; I commend u monkey! Anyways, next time tell ur brethrens to try to ease up on the greed and not chew more than they can swallow. Rushed food chokes! Well, at least the sins of ur fathers has been visited on u. The way not to transfer it to ur sons is to change ur attitude. Beasts!

bk/babe90:

I see ure trying to up your wittiness; I commend u monkey! Anyways, next time tell your brethrens to try to ease up on the greed and not chew more than they can swallow. Rushed food chokes! Well, at least the sins of your fathers has been visited on u. The way not to transfer it to your sons is to change your attitude. Beasts!

You are just an epitome of retrogressive primitivity,the thing that lights u up is tribal rivalries like a cave man.

Damn,what world do u live in?

redsun:


Damn,what world do u live in?

NYC, bABy!!!

redsun:

You are just an epitome of retrogressive primitivity,the thing that lights u up is tribal rivalries like a cave man.

And what lights up the fools ure so lucky to be tribes men with?

bk/babe90:

NYC, bABy!!!
And what lights up the fools ure so lucky to be tribes men with?

Man,u are a disappointment,New York,the city where dreams are made,yet,u still talk like a cave man.

What do u observe around u?

bk/babe90:

I see ure trying to up your wittiness; I commend u monkey! Anyways, next time tell your brethrens to try to ease up on the greed and not chew more than they can swallow. Rushed food chokes! Well, at least the sins of your fathers has been visited on u. The way not to transfer it to your sons is to change your attitude. Beasts!

Zombiefied D.I.C.K LICKER, I know brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case, they are nothing. So get lost you motherf.u.c.k.ing lunatic.

Katsumoto:

Yes Lugard amalgamated Nigeria in 1914 but in 1957, James Robertson offered each region complete autonomy. We couldn't have done anything about the amalgamation in 1914 but we had options in 1957.

I am sorry to say but you argue like a child.[size=16pt] 8 coup plotters who were not rich in resources are about to take on targets in Kaduna and Lagos[/size] and you are expecting them to expend resources in taking out a man who was in jail. I answered your moronic argument the other day but you are not satisfied. What was the point in expending resources to go to Calabar to kill Awo in prison. Now, of all the plotters, who would you have sent to Calabar? They were so under-staffed that it was Captain Nwobosi that was sent to Akintola in Ibadan. Not forgetting that Obienu did not turn up for the coup. Tell me, what would have been the point in wasting scarce resources to kill Awo when Awo would have still been in prison had the coup succeeded?

Why do I have to account for the thousands of people killed in the pogroms or the civil war? was I a party to it? was I even born. Stop personalising the argument. Just focus on the argument and stop your usual tactics of attacking the person that disagrees with you.

I told my Igbo folks to just focus of these people's logic and the "facts" they present. There are HOLES EVERYWHERE in them.

So it is no longer an Igbo coup? You want the whole world to believe that a tribe of about 12 million at the time could only find just 8 men to execute a plot to "take over Nigeria and dominate"?

I know hate can be a powerful thing, but dude I never knew it could make someone completely delusional.

I wouldn't ( and I know NO IGBO would) try to take over my clan in Nnewi using only 8 men, not to talk of taking over my sub-village, village or the town.

You want the world to believe that Ndigbo sent 8 men to topple things and create a scenario for Igbo superemacy in Nigeria.

Well to quote you: "It would take more than a man and his hunting dog to do that".

Anytime you people reach that conclusion, you insult your own intelligence(if you have any ).  It is frankly not even childish but moronic.

No coup in Nigeria was ever termed a tribal coup except Jan 1966 coup, and it was deliberate - to justify the planned extermination of Ndigbo.

redsun:


What do u observe around u?

Bitter, lying, deceitful, truth twisting biafrans! Thats what I observe around me!

Onlytruth:


No coup in Nigeria was ever termed a tribal coup except Jan 1966 coup, and it was deliberate - to justify the planned extermination of Ndigbo.

Really? The July 1966 coup was termed, wut? A Japanese revenge coup? Man get the hell outta here, u history twisting snake!

Onlytruth:


So it is no longer an Igbo coup? You want the whole world to believe that a tribe of about 12 million at the time could only find just 8 men to execute a plot to "take over Nigeria and dominate"?

U really are a bitter fuxck! Was ur whole 12 million tribe in the army? Are the historians that quoted the number of how many Ibo officers
that were invovled in the plot wrong? Why, cus u said so? Why? Cus ure Ibo? Why? Cus Ibos are always right? Man, go kick rocks!

Andre Uweh:

Zombiefied D.I.C.K LICKER, I know brains aren't everything. In fact, in your case, they are nothing. So get lost you motherf.u.c.k.ing lunatic.

Sure, just remember to teach your kids the truth. Liars!

bk/babe90:

Bitter, lying, deceitful, truth twisting biafrans! Thats what I observe around me!

U seems to have a magnetic attractions to negativity.

Let me ask u one question-Do u have a problem getting it up?U always sound like a man that can't please a woman,very hopelessly bitter.U know,a complete state of hopelessness when ur di-ck can't work