Muslims say today's Bible is not the original.

Allah said Torah and Injeel were distorted. This means there was never a time original Torah and Injeel existed as the corruption took place right from inception.

Again, one wonders what was it that was actually distorted as the Laws of God then remain the same till today. I hereby challenge muslims to state what are actually missing or distorted in the Jews and Christians Scriptures.

It is a surprise that the same Scriptures allahh said were corrupted or distorted he still recommended to the Jews and Christians:

Quran 10:94
Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving: And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.
Why would allahh refer Muhammad to the distorted or corrupt Scripture ? What is the similarity between allahh's quran and the earlier Scripture he referred him to ?

Qur'an 2:121
Those unto whom we have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whose disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the loser. Since the Scripture is said to be good for those who read with right reading, why did he condemn the same Scripture again?
We are made to understand that those who read it with right reading and believe in it are on course but those who don't believe it are losers. This shows the Scriptures were never distorted in the writing but the interpretation by some people. Those who read it with the right reading means those who interpret it rightly. It shows it was the interpretation and not that it was distorted in the writing.

Besides, the same Bible that existed in the time of Muhammad, which was divided into Torah (OT) and Injeel (NT) was approved by allahh as authentic:

Quran 29:46
We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and that which to you; our Allah and your Allah is One and to Him we surrender.
Here we are told that Muhammad and his allahh believed in the earlier revelation, which they said is corrupt. How reasonable is this ? Allah's statement that Torah and Injeel is corrupted should not be taken seriously as he was serious about it himself.

Quran 2:89
And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession.
Here we are told the quran came to confirm and not to correct the Bible (or Torah and Injeel if you like). How can the quran confirm what is corrupted ? Again, how does the quran confirm the the Scripture that is totally different from it ?

Quran 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah (OT) was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah. Why should allah recommend a Scripture that has been corrupted ? Allah must be inconsistent and should not be taken seriously.

Quran 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers.
The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date. Why should Allah have condemned it earlier ? Allah or quran should not be taken seriously.

Muslims should think about the Qur'an and islam objectively.

are u back frm ur ban @truthman2012

Buharism:
are u back frm ur ban @truthman2012

Hello, Mr Chrislam !!!

Islam is gradually going into extinction as its adherents are no more capable of defending it. Given an opportunity to write without treat, islam cannot withstand scrutiny.

the real bible in d time of prophet Muhammed is different 4rm today's Bible

Not even one copy survived ? how come the one used long before Muhammed was born is still here, but the one Muhammed wrote, did not survive? you dey think at all?

BAZETU12:
the real bible in d time of prophet Muhammed is different 4rm today's Bible

Look at your poor reasoning. Is it today's Bible allahh said is corrupt or the Bible in Muhammad's time ? Why do muslims reason upside down ?

Allah said the Bible (or Torah and Injeel) in Muhammad's time was corrupted yet he recommended it to Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians. Allah was deceitful.

BAZETU12:
the real bible in d time of prophet Muhammed is different 4rm today's Bible

Lol! Prove it.

The Bible is NOT the Torah or Gospel. Truthman2012 you have no knowledge about your own CORRUPTED Bible.

BAZETU12:
the real bible in d time of prophet Muhammed is different 4rm today's Bible

Can you please share this Bible with me? I can pay any amount for it.

truthmans2012:


Look at your poor reasoning. Is it today's Bible allahh said is corrupt or the Bible in Muhammad's time ? Why do muslims reason upside down ?

Allah said the Bible (or Torah and Injeel) in Muhammad's time was corrupted yet he recommended it to Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians. Allah was deceitful.

Mohammed, aka allahh, was a confused man. He will say 'yes' in the morning and will say 'no' in the evening. allahh must be crazy.

truthmans2012:


Look at your poor reasoning. Is it today's Bible allahh said is corrupt or the Bible in Muhammad's time ? Why do muslims reason upside down ?

Allah said the Bible (or Torah and Injeel) in Muhammad's time was corrupted yet he recommended it to Muhammad, the Jews and the Christians. Allah was deceitful.

The Bible you people are using today is without doubt a REMIX copy of mathew, john, mark and u name d rest
dis guys never come in contact with jesus yet they went ahead and produce this bullshit that u people following today from this version to that and with tons of errors and contradictions from begining to the end everyone knows that which non of ur pastors n priest can explain yet u are calling it word of GOD. And as for those quaranic verse that u are misquoting are never ref to ur comic bible u are having now

aminusanti:


The Bible you people are using today is without doubt a REMIX copy of mathew, john, mark and u name d rest
dis guys never come in contact with jesus yet they went ahead and produce this bullshit that u people following today from this version to that and with tons of errors and contradictions from begining to the end everyone knows that which non of ur pastors n priest can explain yet u are calling it word of GOD. And as for those quaranic verse that u are misquoting are never ref to ur comic bible u are having now

You lack knowledge and seriously spewing out first class ignorance.

Quote a Bible verse where God spoke and contradicted Himself. Those you call contradictions in the Bible are human statements, you cannot find any when God spoke. But the quran is a bunch of contradictions as allahh was changing his revelations indiscriminately, claiming he was replacing his words with what he called better ones (Quran 2:106). Who is giving your god better ideas? Satanic deception.

It is only God that can liberate you islamists from the claw of allahh, whose real name is satan . You are still saying this after you have read that Muhammad was one of the prophets of Hindus, a satanic cult. You deliberately want to suffer in hell.


Matthew 10:2-4
2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;
4 Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

Read some of the quranic contradictions here:


www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

truthmans2012:
Muslims say today's Bible is not the original.

Allah said Torah and Injeel were distorted. This means there was never a time original Torah and Injeel existed as the corruption took place right from inception.

Again, one wonders what was it that was actually distorted as the Laws of God then remain the same till today. I hereby challenge muslims to state what are actually missing or distorted in the Jews and Christians Scriptures.

It is a surprise that the same Scriptures allahh said were corrupted or distorted he still recommended to the Jews and Christians:

Quran 10:94
Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving: And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.
Why would allahh refer Muhammad to the distorted or corrupt Scripture ? What is the similarity between allahh's quran and the earlier Scripture he referred him to ?

Qur'an 2:121
Those unto whom we have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whose disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the loser. Since the Scripture is said to be good for those who read with right reading, why did he condemn the same Scripture again?
We are made to understand that those who read it with right reading and believe in it are on course but those who don't believe it are losers. This shows the Scriptures were never distorted in the writing but the interpretation by some people. Those who read it with the right reading means those who interpret it rightly. It shows it was the interpretation and not that it was distorted in the writing.

Besides, the same Bible that existed in the time of Muhammad, which was divided into Torah (OT) and Injeel (NT) was approved by allahh as authentic:

Quran 29:46
We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and that which to you; our Allah and your Allah is One and to Him we surrender.
Here we are told that Muhammad and his allahh believed in the earlier revelation, which they said is corrupt. How reasonable is this ? Allah's statement that Torah and Injeel is corrupted should not be taken seriously as he was serious about it himself.

Quran 2:89
And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession.
Here we are told the quran came to confirm and not to correct the Bible (or Torah and Injeel if you like). How can the quran confirm what is corrupted ? Again, how does the quran confirm the the Scripture that is totally different from it ?

Quran 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah (OT) was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah. Why should allah recommend a Scripture that has been corrupted ? Allah must be inconsistent and should not be taken seriously.

Quran 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers.
The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date. Why should Allah have condemned it earlier ? Allah or quran should not be taken seriously.

Muslims should think about the Qur'an and islam objectively.

Let's start here
https://www.nairaland.com/3217883/handwritten-draft-king-james-bible

analice107:
Not even one copy survived ? how come the one used long before Muhammed was born is still here, but the one Muhammed wrote, did not survive? you dey think at all?

Did he write?
Do you always just talk without thinking?

truthmans2012:
Muslims say today's Bible is not the original.

Allah said Torah and Injeel were distorted. This means there was never a time original Torah and Injeel existed as the corruption took place right from inception.

Again, one wonders what was it that was actually distorted as the Laws of God then remain the same till today. I hereby challenge muslims to state what are actually missing or distorted in the Jews and Christians Scriptures.

It is a surprise that the same Scriptures allahh said were corrupted or distorted he still recommended to the Jews and Christians:

Quran 10:94
Allah told Muhammad to consult the Jews and the Christians if he was in doubt of the revelations he was receiving: And if thou art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers.
Why would allahh refer Muhammad to the distorted or corrupt Scripture ? What is the similarity between allahh's quran and the earlier Scripture he referred him to ?

Qur'an 2:121
Those unto whom we have given the Scripture, who read it with the right reading, those believe in it. And whose disbelieveth in it, those are they who are the loser. Since the Scripture is said to be good for those who read with right reading, why did he condemn the same Scripture again?
We are made to understand that those who read it with right reading and believe in it are on course but those who don't believe it are losers. This shows the Scriptures were never distorted in the writing but the interpretation by some people. Those who read it with the right reading means those who interpret it rightly. It shows it was the interpretation and not that it was distorted in the writing.

Besides, the same Bible that existed in the time of Muhammad, which was divided into Torah (OT) and Injeel (NT) was approved by allahh as authentic:

Quran 29:46
We believe in the Revelation which has come down to us and that which to you; our Allah and your Allah is One and to Him we surrender.
Here we are told that Muhammad and his allahh believed in the earlier revelation, which they said is corrupt. How reasonable is this ? Allah's statement that Torah and Injeel is corrupted should not be taken seriously as he was serious about it himself.

Quran 2:89
And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession.
Here we are told the quran came to confirm and not to correct the Bible (or Torah and Injeel if you like). How can the quran confirm what is corrupted ? Again, how does the quran confirm the the Scripture that is totally different from it ?

Quran 5:43
How come they come unto the (i.e Muhammad) for judgment when they have the Torah, wherein Allah hath delivered judgment (for them)? Yet even after that they turn away. Such (folk) are not believers.
Even at Muhammad's time till today the Torah (OT) was valid for judgment, but only the people turned away from it according to Allah. Why should allah recommend a Scripture that has been corrupted ? Allah must be inconsistent and should not be taken seriously.

Quran 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-doers.
The Gospel was also valid for judgment at Muhammad's time and till date. Why should Allah have condemned it earlier ? Allah or quran should not be taken seriously.

Muslims should think about the Qur'an and islam objectively.

what will u loose by putting those verses in their correct context as already knw pls??
LIEman u are deceiving no one but yourself and the other lost sheep. i swear never come across an EVILl christian like you, your intention are not clean at all, you are not any better than a ISIS member, lying, deception, arrogancy and hate filled ur heart honestly. Read what other fellow xtians are saying about dis devilish lair

mustymatic:

Let's start here
https://www.nairaland.com/3217883/handwritten-draft-king-james-bible

Quoting the write-up an enemy of the Bible.

Allahh himself is inconsistent about the Bible as visible from the various quranic verses in the OP.
He recommended it as a reference Book for Muhammad. He later contradicted himself on the matter. You are unable to defend your allahh but instead you want to rely on the saying of an atheist. Who do you believe: your allahh who recommended it for your prophet or the atheist's write-ups?

Why was allahh inconsistent? Answer the question.

Muslims say what?...go ask your biblical scholars who keep discovering and deleting fabrications and egregious mistranslations that were made to an already fabricated book.

truthmans2012:



You lack knowledge and seriously spewing out first class ignorance.

Quote a Bible verse where God spoke and contradicted Himself. Those you call contradictions in the Bible are human statements, you cannot find any when God spoke. But the quran is a bunch of contradictions as allahh was changing his revelations indiscriminately, claiming he was replacing his words with what he called better ones (Quran 2:106). Who is giving your god better ideas? Satanic deception.

It is only God that can liberate you islamists from the claw of allahh, whose real name is satan . You are still saying this after you have read that Muhammad was one of the prophets of Hindus, a satanic cult. You deliberately want to suffer in hell.


Matthew 10:2-4
2 These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;
4 Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.

Read some of the quranic contradictions here:


www.nairaland.com/2511448/contradictions-quran

lieman not anymore will i waste my time on you proving what was thrashed already, use that same link u provide to re-read again. Your devilish mind will never allow you to read and reason with anything posted to u.

mustymatic:

Did he write?
Do you always just talk without thinking?

Oh, he didn't write any? Yet he knows which is fake and which is original? I shd be asking you if you think

analice107:

Oh, he didn't write any? Yet he knows which is fake and which is original? I shd be asking you if you think

Jesus didn't write either

analice107:

Oh, he didn't write any? Yet he knows which is fake and which is original? I shd be asking you if you think

Jesus didn't write either they are messengers from God ..why do you doubt?

mustymatic:

Jesus didn't write either they are messengers from God ..why do you doubt?

I feel like am talking to a 10yrs old. How old are you pls?

mustymatic:

Jesus didn't write either

And we never claimed he did. He taught people, and eye witnesses put all down in writing. Unlike Muhammed who copied from different religious books to form the Koran.

MUSLIMS OPEN UR EYES TO SEE THE TRUTH HAAABAAA.....And are you muslims are comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?Muslims teach Muhammad was sinless. However the Koran specifically limits the number of wives a Muslim man can marry to 4. Yet Muhammad married at least 12 women. My question is: Is Muhammad above the very law he gave in the Koran ? and isn't the definition of sin violating the law of God?Muslims quote George Bernard Shaw who said, "The Bible is the most dangerous book in the world, keep it lock and keyed." My question is: What value is there for you to quote an atheist like Shaw who also said: "There is not one single established religion that an intelligent, educated man can believe

Let begin with what the Qur’an says about the Bible; many verses actually confirm that it is God’s Word and has not been changed. Here are only a few for example: sura 5:43 ‘How come they to you for judgement when they have the Torah, wherein are contained the commandments of God?'; sura 5:44 ‘We [God] did reveal the Torah, wherein is guidance and light…'; sura 5:46 ‘We sent Jesus…confirming that which was revealed before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and light…'; sura 5:68 ‘[Jews and Christians] have no guidance until you observe the Torah and the Injil [Gospel]'; sura 4:136 ‘Believe in God and His messenger [Muhammad], and the Scripture which He revealed to His messenger [the Qur’an] and the Scripture which He revealed aforetime [the Bible]'; sura 10:91 ‘If you [Muhammad] are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto you, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before you'; sura 15:9 ‘We reveal the Reminder, and Lo! We truly are its Guardian [ie the Bible is guarded against corruption by God]'; sura 6:34 ‘There is none to alter the Words of Allah'; sura 10:64 ‘There is no changing of the Words of Allah.’
If the Bible was corrupted, was this before or after Muhammad? If before, why does God tell Muhammad to refer to a corrupted Scripture for guidance, and why does he say of the Torah and Gospel ‘wherein is guidance and light’ rather than ‘wherein there used to be before they were corrupted’? If after, why does the Muslim not accept the Bible, since current translations are all based upon manuscripts that predate Muhammad?
If it was corrupted, was this by Jews or Christians? Since neither were on speaking terms with each other (sura 2:113 ‘The Jews say the Christians follow nothing (true) and the Christians say the Jews follow nothing (true), yet both are readers of the Scripture’, also see 5:82), how could they agree to change every single Bible identically? Why was there no record of this happening, and why did nobody try to stop it or hide authentic Bibles? The New Testament books were widely distributed as soon as they were written – the ‘Jesus Papyrus’ of Matthew 26, found in Magdalene College and recently dated to AD 68 was found in Egypt. Presumably Matthew was still alive when it was written – so why did he not try to correct it if it had been tampered with? Why did the Christians not remove embarrassing stories like Peter’s denial of Christ (Matt 26:69-75) or Paul and Barnabas’ disputation (Acts 15:39)?
What is the Bible’s testimony of itself? ‘All Scripture is God-breathed…’ (2 Tim 3:16); Peter describes Paul’s writings as Scripture since some people maliciously distort his teaching ‘as they do the other Scriptures’ (2 Pet 3:16). ‘The Law was given through Moses’ (John 1:17) and Jesus said ‘Scripture cannot be broken’ (John 10:35). His words are ‘spirit and life’ (John 6:63) and He has the words of eternal life (John 6:68). How could anybody dare to add or remove portions of Scripture when faced with the warning in Rev 22:18-19 ‘If anybody adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anybody takes words away from this book of prophecy God will take away his share in the tree of life and the holy city….’
Significantly the early Muslim commentators (eg. Bukhari, al-Razi) were all agreed that the Bible could not be changed since it was God’s Word and several centuries passed before Muslims claimed that the Bible had been changed, when they carefully read the stories in the Qur’an and noted that they were different from those in the Bible. The verses used to support corruption in the Bible have been totally misused by Muslims. For example sura 2:42 ‘Confound truth with falsehood, nor knowingly conceal the truth’ was said to have come to Muhammad after two Jews were brought to him for judgement, having committed adultery. The other Jews wanted to test him to see if he, as a prophet of God, knew what was in the Torah. So he asked for a Torah and got a boy to read the punishments for disobedience. When the boy reached L

Here it is, in it's original handwritten form.
Source: www.nairaland.com/3217883/handwritten-draft-king-james-bible

Hshahahahhaha may God forgive u for lieing...to him for what u just brought did u think we are talking jotter here hahahaha u went to go and bring their evil jotter some people have been deceived with liees which they are too blind to see funny people my friend and sit down and think of ur religious believe very well nd u will see what christians are saying iz d truth

analice107:

And we never claimed he did. He taught people, and eye witnesses put all down in writing. Unlike Muhammed who copied from different religious books to form the Koran.

Who's the eye witness
Please do tell. Seems like you don't know what you're saying. So please tell us
Thanks.

analice107:

I feel like am talking to a 10yrs old. How old are you pls?

Old enough to know how childish you are

aminusanti:

what will u loose by putting those verses in their correct context as already knw pls??
LIEman u are deceiving no one but yourself and the other lost sheep. i swear never come across an EVILl christian like you, your intention are not clean at all, you are not any better than a ISIS member, lying, deception, arrogancy and hate filled ur heart honestly. Read what other fellow xtians are saying about dis devilish lair

Put the verses in the correct context and let's see them please?

mustymatic:
Old enough to know how childish you are

Hmmmm, Now I know.