Jozzy4:
" unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed " - 2 pet 2:12

as seen in the scripture above, easy life is not promised to animal creations from the beginning

whitestar01:

Because man has left garden of eden, animals haz left too . We are out of the garden just to suffer.
If u still think otherwise go get &get busy with ur brain for the develop.emt of our naija.

hopefulLandlord:


so animals had to suffer the same fate even though they did nothing wrong (asides snake)
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other animals are attacked by snake and vice versa despite having nothing to do with the fall of man?
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so you just proven the Christian God is like the Naija police
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thanks for admitting that

whitestar01:
Gods ways are not our wayz. If animalz had remained in the garden , what would hv today as meAt? Notin in this world haz withstood the curze of man.

hopefulLandlord:


his ways? you've already indirectly said he's like the Nigeria police bro

you're just going deeper while still maintaining he's like the Nigeria police

whitestar01:
So nigeriian police is ur problem? If u're fed up with ur religion just come back to CHRIST ,it takes notin he will accept U. God bless you

whitestar01:

Because man has left garden of eden, animals haz left too . We are out of the garden just to suffer.

If u still think otherwise go get &get busy with ur brain for the develop.emt of our naija.

So God did not have foresight to know that Adam and Eve would disobey? if he did, he should have made plans. So God would punish the innocent Hyena or Lion because some adults ate a fruit
But ur 2nd paragraph has no reasonable message to.send.

ValentineMary:

So God did not have foresight to know that Adam and Eve would disobey? if he did, he should have made plans. So God would punish the innocent Hyena or Lion because some adults ate a fruit
But ur 2nd paragraph has no reasonable message to.send.

hopefulLandlord:
Why did the curse of Adam and Eve affect most of the other animals?

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17 To Adam he said, “Because you listened to your wife and ate fruit from the tree about which I commanded you, ‘You must not eat from it,’
“Cursed is the ground because of you;
through painful toil you will eat food from it
all the days of your life.
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It will produce thorns and thistles for you,
and you will eat the plants of the field.
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By the sweat of your brow
you will eat your food
until you return to the ground,
since from it you were taken;
for dust you are
and to dust you will return.”

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Question for Christians

In the book of Genesis, the Christian God cursed Adam that he'll suffer before he eats
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If we are to accept these, how come most animals too suffer for food?
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But Some animals migrate for weeks/months all for food by land, water, air even ice just to survive. How is that different from what you & I do to survive?

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Cursed eve that she'll give birth in pain and agony

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How come most animals too labour during birth?

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"it’s known that many animals show some signs of pain and distress. During labor, horses sometimes sweat, llamas and alpacas bellow or hum in a way similar to when they are injured, and many animals become more aggressive."

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"the most horrifying birth is that of the spotted hyena. Females of this species give birth through a narrow, penis-like, enlarged clitoris."

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Since god cursed the Serpent, Adam and Eve alone, how come other animals appear to be cursed also?

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Or was God like Nigeria police that detains anybody on site during a crime?

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If I'm missing a passage where god cursed other animals, kindly point it out

JMAN05:


Jehovah didn't create the animals with the prospect of living forever. Humans were the one with that prospect. It is normal for them to live and die.

hopefulLandlord:


I'm not talking living forever bro

I'm simply asking why the curse that was placed on the womb of Eve for instance manifests in animals too

what did they do wrong? were they already created with the pain?

Wilgrea7:
have u guys read the story of adam and eve?? i mean the one not in the bible

hopefulLandlord:

give us a link pls

hopefulLandlord:

give us a link pls