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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 2:23pm On May 14, 2017
nemesis2u:
grin
What's your take on starting a cyber warfare organization?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:11pm On May 14, 2017
tdayof:

What's your take on starting a cyber warfare organization?

dont u know intel orgs hires hacker groups within their countries to do the same. imagine 10 year kids waging wars grin
these r generally low tech cyber warfare targeting hostile public assets.

a self declared cyber warfare organization in the public domain is a very bad idea , its actually suicide , every cyber crime would be plastered on u in no time grin

what u can have is a private cyber security organization, with a undeclared cyber offensive capability. this capability will be restricted to select members with restricted / regulated rules of engagement so that u dont step on the wrong toes .

hacking is simply not about software , it encompasses corresponding hardware capability , getting into military grade networks is very tough given the multiple of encryption levels and blackholes encountered.

without exposure to friendly military networks and familiarity with them it will be difficult to mount an intrusion ops on a similiar hostile military grade network.

also capability to hide tracks is important , generally not possible without access to military comms/resources etc. plus best and safest undetectable intrusion is via utilizing HUMINT resources embedded within the hostile assets.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 3:26pm On May 14, 2017
nemesis2u:


dont u know intel orgs hires hacker groups within their countries to do the same. imagine 10 year kids waging wars grin
these r generally low tech cyber warfare targeting hostile public assets.

a self declared cyber warfare organization in the public domain is a very bad idea , its actually suicide , every cyber crime would be plastered on u in no time grin

what u can have is a private cyber security organization, with a undeclared cyber offensive capability. this capability will be restricted to select members with restricted / regulated rules of engagement so that u dont step on the wrong toes .

hacking is simply not about software , it encompasses corresponding hardware capability , getting into military grade networks is very tough given the multiple of encryption levels and blackholes encountered.

without exposure to friendly military networks and familiarity with them it will be difficult to mount an intrusion ops.

also capability to hide tracks is important , generally not possible without access to military comms etc.






Exactly what I'm talking about. capability to conduct intelligence on ones own. I feel this with need the NSA approval but that shouldn't be a big deal in country like NG. What's your idea about it in a country like Nigeria?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:58pm On May 14, 2017
tdayof:



Exactly what I'm talking about. capability to conduct intelligence on ones own. I feel this with need the NSA approval but that shouldn't be a big deal in country like NG. What's your idea about it in a country like Nigeria?

for any country employing a private agency for high value covert operation is a big security risk .

i don't think any countries military will opt for it willingly, as risk of security compromise is high.

what u can at the best have is a private organization (misdirection/cover) manned by military guys and some civilian guys with adequate security clearance.

everything boils down to ur capability as to the type of missions u can undertake

if it is propaganda and psychological warfare then all civilian manned orgs will do

however if it is high value classified ops then organizational control will need to be in the hands of the military/intel etc.

i did not understand ur question with relation to nigeria.


ps: have u heard of human behaviour specialists ?
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:10pm On May 14, 2017
tdayof:



Exactly what I'm talking about. capability to conduct intelligence on ones own. I feel this with need the NSA approval but that shouldn't be a big deal in country like NG. What's your idea about it in a country like Nigeria?
The idea for such would likely not fly
An example is the Private security/military industry in Nigeria.. The atmosphere that company would have would give it nthn but a stunted growth at best

the next likely thing such organization or persons could do is to work as contract staff for our security agencies
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 4:13pm On May 14, 2017
nemesis2u:



ps: have u heard of human behaviour specialists ?
you mean like mentalist/psychologist ?

yes..I am lucky to have a Fam with two PhDs in Sociology and Behavioural Psychology..practices in a private hospital
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 4:27pm On May 14, 2017
Odunayaw:
you mean like mentalist/psychologist ?

yes..I am lucky to have a Fam with two PhDs in Sociology and Behavioural Psychology..practices in a private hospital

2 phds damn ! grin

yes psychology is the base but human behaviour specialists / Behavioral Specialist r kind of niche specializations , they r in high demand in intelligence orgs and military .
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 4:48pm On May 14, 2017
Guess whose fav specops temporarily halted training in December? The SEALS! WHY?? They're fvcking high that's why?! According to an in depth investigation reported by CBS,Washington Times,Russia Today and even Newsweek among to tier MSM outlets.

“People that we know of, that we hear about have tested positive for cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, marijuana, ecstasy,” said a SEAL. “That’s a problem.”

How prevalent is drug abuse in the SEAL teams?

“It’s growing,” said one SEAL. “The drug use, it’s growing.”

Last December, as an e-mail shows, the SEALs halted all training and ordered a safety stand-down because of the drug problem.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-seal-drug-use-staggering-investigation-finds/

This may have led to mutilation and murder of innocents a decade ago. Goddammit!! Read up 'canoeing'! My goodness! Srsly,learn to look critically at things,people.

According to The Intercept, canoeing is when a round is fired into the forehead of a dead enemy, splitting open the skull and exposing brain matter.

“There is and was no military reason whatsoever to split someone’s skull open with a single round,” a former SEAL Team 6 leader said.

“It’s sport.”

According to the former SEAL, canoeing became popular in 2007.

“I’d look through the (post operation) photos and see multiple canoes on one objective, several times a deployment,” the SEAL said.

Former SEALS also told The Intercept that wasn’t the only kind of mutilation that happened and sometimes operators would “take trophies”.

http://www.news.com.au/world/middle-east/seal-team-6-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-in-afghanistan-and-iraq/news-story/5685baf46c1907034170b0a7c8d79ff7

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 5:14pm On May 14, 2017
nemesis2u:


2 phds damn ! grin

yes psychology is the base but human behaviour specialists / Behavioral Specialist r kind of niche specializations , they r in high demand in intelligence orgs and military .
grin grin just give me the guns ..
getting proficient in the pyschofield is going to take so much of my time,I am going to bore angels on Judgement day grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:22pm On May 14, 2017
The flamethrower,or rather its latest iteration is now a century old. Introduced by the Germans in 1915 (actually the ancient Greeks had a fixed version) to break the tactical trenchlock of WW1 it was instrumental in the Flanders victory July 1915 as they killed 800 Brits in 2 days. Soon flammenwerfer were in all units.
In WW2 they used thickened diesel and then napalm as propellant and the USMC admitted they wouldn't have captured the Jap fortifications without them. Even now flamethrowers have a role in thick brush and dug in enemy.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:47pm On May 14, 2017
Henry240:


I know all HUDs appear this why, but what extra benefits do the wide green HUD(Rafale,Rafeal HUD as seen in some SU-30, Gripen, F-16 block 52, F-22, Eurofighter) provide over the plain slender type HUD as seen in the (most SU-30, Mirage-2k, Hornet/Super-Hornet, JF-17, LCA, L-15)?

it depends on the technology deployed and design considerations

1.aircrafts employing reflection collimation systems in HUD have a larger field of view (FOV)
2.aircrafts employing diffractive collimation systems in HUD will have a narrower field of view (FOV)
3.aircrafts employing refractive collimation systems in HUD will have a narrower field of view (FOV)

this is not a sum zero answer becz various technologies exists which can close the capabilities/performance gap between 2 HUD types (reflection /diffractive).

also it depend on various designer parameters like combiner supports ,windshield frame, cockpit geometry , alignment adjustment issues with respect to the pitch, roll, and heading axis of the aircraft etc etc
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:53pm On May 14, 2017
Odunayaw:
grin grin just give me the guns ..
getting proficient in the pyschofield is going to take so much of my time,I am going to bore angels on Judgement day grin

there is no better feel of power then the ability to read and control another human or maybe angels too on Judgement day grin


guns r boring , u will get frustrated grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 6:11pm On May 14, 2017
nemesis2u:


there is no better feel of power then the ability to read and control another human or maybe angels too on Judgement day grin


guns r boring , u will get frustrated grin
grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 6:24pm On May 14, 2017
kikuyu1:
The flamethrower,or rather its latest iteration is now a century old. Introduced by the Germans in 1915 (actually the ancient Greeks had a fixed version) to break the tactical trenchlock of WW1 it was instrumental in the Flanders victory July 1915 as they killed 800 Brits in 2 days. Soon flammenwerfer were in all units.
In WW2 they used thickened diesel and then napalm as propellant and the USMC admitted they wouldn't have captured the Jap fortifications without them. Even now flamethrowers have a role in thick brush and dug in enemy.

interestingly during the kargil war the infantry was clamoring for flame throwers beccz they knew the enemy wanted to avoid getting burnt alive at all cost, lest they miss out on the good afterlife with 72 **** grin grin grin offered by shahadat in battle. i have seen pics of terrorist burnt to crisp with thermobaric weapons during CT ops.

however the guys ended up with RPO-A Shmel thermobaric rocket launchers though , which can be considered the modern analogy of flame throwers.

The Shmel fires a ‘thermobaric’ warhead which works by dispersing a highly flammable fuel vapour, then igniting this cloud while it hangs over the target. The resulting blast generates a 3000-degree Celsius fireball that not only causes powerful burns but also a high pressure shockwave that sucks out all the oxygen an area of 50 square metres outdoors and 80 cubic metres indoors

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:05pm On May 14, 2017
New Nano Drone Carried in Soldier’s Pouch


A new four-rotor surveillance nano drone is small enough to be carried by soldiers and squads in their pouch. Drone manufacturing firm AeroVironment officially unveiled the new Snipe Nano Quad , a miniature (“Class 0”) and field-rugged unmanned aircraft system designed to support close-range intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance missions.



The first U.S. government customer delivery of 20 Snipe systems took place in April, according to the company’s statement on its website.

Equipped with electro-optical/infrared (EO/IR), low-light-capable and long-wave infrared (LWIR) sensors in an integrated tilt mechanism, Snipe can relay high-resolution images and record real-time video both day and night. In addition, Snipe’s integrated UHF radio provides for excellent non-line-of-sight operation. The software-defined radio (SDR) allows Snipe to be sold commercially.

With its quiet electric motors, flight speeds exceeding 20 mph and more than one-kilometer range, Snipe is difficult to detect in operating environments with even minimal ambient noise. Its rechargeable batteries power approximately 15 minutes of flight time. Despite its small size, the durable nano-UAS is capable of operating under challenging environmental conditions – including harsh winds.

“Snipe’s tiny size belies its impressive capabilities,” said Kirk Flittie, AeroVironment vice president and general manager of its Unmanned Aircraft Systems business segment. “It is quick, quiet, fast, durable and packed with advanced features critical to helping our customers succeed in close-range missions.”

“Snipe enables operators to spring into action quickly,” Flittie said. “No assembly is required for the five-ounce (140-gram) nano-UAS, which is designed to be worn by its operator so it can be deployed in less than a minute.”

“While Snipe’s stealthiness makes it ideally suited for military applications, it’s an invaluable asset for anyone needing a ‘Class 0’ UAS to support their missions,” Flittie said.

Snipe is controlled using an intuitive app on a standard, ruggedized (MIL-STD 810) touch screen controller with intuitive user interface and automated operation for ease of use. Other critical functions include Snipe’s ability to return to its operator automatically if it loses its radio link.

Snipe benefits from advances in nano unmanned technology achieved by the company in its development of the internationally recognized Nano Hummingbird. “The Nano Hummingbird, the world’s first unmanned aircraft capable of propulsion and control using two flapping wings, is an example of how our breakthrough innovation has spawned a valuable new capability in Snipe,” added Flittie.

source : i-hls

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Odunayaw(m): 9:42pm On May 14, 2017
If Wishes were horses this would be flying in d N.E
Wz 19

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:10pm On May 14, 2017
chkil0:
New Nano Drone Carried in Soldier’s Pouch



source : i-hls
This looks dope, my only problem with these things are the controls, some don't last enough .
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by lionel4power(m): 11:19pm On May 14, 2017
I recommend this aircraft to any country with a coastline.
SAAB SwordFish MPA
MPA ELINT RECON COMINT ISR SIGINT

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:01am On May 15, 2017
cheesy

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 3:03am On May 15, 2017
something odd about the flaps of the SU35

r these dielectric panels on the flaps (the lighter white/grey region)

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 3:19am On May 15, 2017
chkil0:
New Nano Drone Carried in Soldier’s Pouch



source : i-hls

Selfie drone grin
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by tdayof(m): 3:21am On May 15, 2017
nemesis2u:
something odd about the flaps of the SU35
r these dielectric panels on the flaps (the lighter white/grey region)

One can't say without getting close to see.
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:09am On May 15, 2017
rumours r afloat that India has already begun construction of her first nuclear attack submarines (SSN).

chances r indian SSN will be a combo of SSN and SSGN capabilities to offset the few numbers of SSBN .

wonder what it is based on, Russian yasen or french barracuda or both grin

the hybrid SSNs will take of the 2nd strike capabilities in the western sector while the SSBNs will take care of the northern sector.


pic south korean HDF-3000 frigate

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 7:58am On May 15, 2017
pic 1 LCA firing R73 WVR with the help of its pilots HMD (helmet mounted display)

pic 2 LCA firing DERBY BVR with the radar in look-down mode which is more complicated than the clutter free look-up mode.

pic 3 LCA flying with PYTHON 5 WVR, test firing of PYTHON 5 WVR is delayed becz of some vibration issues, the OEM is rectifying the same and will be test fired soon.

and much later ASTRA MK1 BVR will be certified on LCA.

pic4 ASTRA MK1 BVR test fire from SU30MKI

for general knowledge

the following test points r involved in certifying a AAM on a fighter aircraft

1.far/near boundary
2.crossing
3.receeding/approaching
4.subsonic/supersonic
5.maneuvering
6.high/low altitude
7.ECM
8.LOBL/LOAL
9.off-bore sight
10.look up/look down
11.single/multi target(s)
12.single/multi sensors


ps: note the smokeless plume of the DERBY and ASTRA MK1 versus smoky plume of R73.

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 8:31am On May 15, 2017
Daksh Warrior a Gun mounted ROV system, with MG3 Grenade Launcher and a 7.62 mm LMG mounted on an unmanned vehicle.

The system has a range of 500 m in LOS (Line of Sight) and an endurance of about 3 hrs. It can climb stairs etc.

for counter terrorism ops.

it is basically a proof of concept , there will be multiple iterations /improvement of this before the final production version comes out.

Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 9:43am On May 15, 2017
nemesis2u:


interestingly during the kargil war the infantry was clamoring for flame throwers beccz they knew the enemy wanted to avoid getting burnt alive at all cost, lest they miss out on the good afterlife with 72 **** grin grin grin offered by shahadat in battle. i have seen pics of terrorist burnt to crisp with thermobaric weapons during CT ops.

however the guys ended up with RPO-A Shmel thermobaric rocket launchers though , which can be considered the modern analogy of flame throwers.

The Shmel fires a ‘thermobaric’ warhead which works by dispersing a highly flammable fuel vapour, then igniting this cloud while it hangs over the target. The resulting blast generates a 3000-degree Celsius fireball that not only causes powerful burns but also a high pressure shockwave that sucks out all the oxygen an area of 50 square metres outdoors and 80 cubic metres indoors

Interesting! The Shmel is more of a fuel/air bomb than true flamethrower which imo still has a role-nothing is as terrifying. We all have an instinctive fear of fire. Even Sikhs,gurkhas AND Nagas would run if their pos were attacked by the traditional flamethrower. This vid says most casualties were soldiers shot as they ran though I do know many suffocated as the flame consumed all the oxygen in the air.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc_lvEk4gP4
So,yes the Shmel is fantastic but don't drop the original flammenwerfer!

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 10:15am On May 15, 2017
kikuyu1:

Interesting! The Shmel is more of a fuel/air bomb than true flamethrower which imo still has a role-nothing is as terrifying. We all have an instinctive fear of fire. Even Sikhs,gurkhas AND Nagas would run if their pos were attacked by the traditional flamethrower. This vid says most casualties were soldiers shot as they ran though I do know many suffocated as the flame consumed all the oxygen in the air.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc_lvEk4gP4
So,yes the Shmel is fantastic but don't drop the original flammenwerfer!


fire is a big psychological deterrent to those who believe that getting burnt to cinders would spoil their future after life activities grin

lolz yes Sikhs,gurkhas AND Nagas would run like hell, maybe even break bolts Olympic sprint record in the process to avoid getting burnt grin

the sole difference being death by fire is not a issue perse as they r not bothered/concerned with the issue of 'disruption of after life activities' grin

anyways IMO flamethrower utilization is kind of limited in todays scenario, u must realize backpacking a flame thrower is like carrying a time bomb with u . high chances r enemy gun fire will set it off.

use of flame thrower will be governed by the type of missions being engaged , if it bunker clearing in a assault mode then it has utility, but the guy backpacking it will have to at the rear, safe from hostile defensive fire.

once friendlies lay down suppressive fire at close range , the flame thrower guy can flank the bunker / defensive structure to get close enough to release the flame jets , it is best utilized in enclosed structures. also u will need 2 / 3 guys protecting the flamethrower guy.

however utilizing thermobaric rockets / missiles allows u the safety of distance and lowers the possibility of casualty as the targets will be destroyed at stand off distance.

one of my favorites the carl gustav does not have a thermobaric round which in my opinion is a oversight.

long story short

flame thrower use will be determined by mission profile and the tactics being brought into play inorder to complete the mission. it will never be a standard issue , rather its use will be very selective. on the other hand thermobaric launchers will be more or less regular issue depending on the task at hand.

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 4:47pm On May 15, 2017
Non-combat losses are grossly overlooked!

THERE WAS A PIC SOME PAGES BACK OF A KDF FIELD WATER PURIFIER UNIT,PROBABLY BATTALION LEVEL THAT INSPIRED THIS(can't find the pic,arrghhh!!)


The state of army field welfare is often the best reflection of the true face of its regime. How good is the soldier in the field looked after? What's the state of their hygiene,both personal and unit? Are such facilities,latrines and showers provided? What's the state of the medical assistance? What's the quality of their rations and the state of the kitchens?
A decade ago the UPDF 4th div were in S Sudan on one of M7 regular military misadventures fighting either supposedly fighting Kony or N Sudan proxies or a combi of the 2. I specifically recall their malnourished dusty dehydrated boys standing on the Yei Juba highway begging for water and malariaquin from passers by. I wasn't surprised since M7 has always wanted to pose as a regional strongman when in truth Uganda was and still is a 5th world country.
On the world stage the biggest indictment of a nations true character was the state of the Russian army during their 1979-89 incursion. Then as now the major aim was to corner global opium production,with the secondary aim getting friendly territory near a warm water port,in this case Karachi in Pakistan. The world at the time ululated about the imminent danger of rampant World Communism invading the Capitalist West but the truth was Russia couldn't properly supply the 40th Army just across their southern border!
Firstly the conscripts were hilarious misinformed being told the Muj were all drug dealers while the majority wanted to assist "International Progressive Forces." They were genuinely shocked to find themselves under fire!!
Although this improved of the course of the war, Soviet soldiers faced overcrowding and inadequate protection from weather. Limitations on water forced many Afghantsy to go a month between showers
Heat stroke, dehydration, altitude sickness, and frostbite were consistent problems. More dramatic and less insidious problems in the form of infectious disease plagued Soviet forces through their entire deployment in Afghanistan. Intestinal disorders, typhus, hepatitis, malaria, tuberculosis, and skin diseases posed a constant challenge for Soviet soldiers. Poor sanitation, personal hygiene, and massive concentrations of forces exacerbated the problem.
Since 25% of units in many areas of Afghanistan did not have access to bathing or laundry facilities, it is no surprise that 20% suffered from skin infections, or that 50% of all soldiers in Afghanistan contracted dysentery during their 18 month deployments. Water shortage contributed significantly to the spread of disease, as soldiers ate from plates that were scrubbed, but not washed. Soldiers were only able to change undergarments every few weeks, resulting in rashes and lice infestations.[lvii] In light of this evidence, it is little surprise that the 40th Army suffered more casualties from disease than from enemy action....
She testified that the army hospital had a single syringe, and that they disinfected wounds with gasoline after the surgeons drank their supplies of alcohol. The hospital was also missing basic supplies as hospital gowns.
https://mil-historicus..co.ke/2014/11/afghantsy-soviet-experience-in.html
Even elite units like Spets made do with sneakers as the pics show!! 50%,minimum 30% of all Afgantsy were regular users of both opium and/or heroin.
So guys before clamouring for MI 28s and Kamovs think-how good is your field welfare??

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:01pm On May 15, 2017
kikuyu1:
Non-combat losses are grossly overlooked!

THERE WAS A PIC SOME PAGES BACK OF A KDF FIELD WATER PURIFIER UNIT,PROBABLY BATTALION LEVEL THAT INSPIRED THIS(can't find the pic,arrghhh!!)


The state of army field welfare is often the best reflection of the true face of its regime. How good is the soldier in the field looked after? What's the state of their hygiene,both personal and unit? Are such facilities,latrines and showers provided? What's the state of the medical assistance? What's the quality of their rations and the state of the kitchens?
A decade ago the UPDF 4th div were in S Sudan on one of M7 regular military misadventures fighting either supposedly fighting Kony or N Sudan proxies or a combi of the 2. I specifically recall their malnourished dusty dehydrated boys standing on the Yei Juba highway begging for water and malariaquin from passers by. I wasn't surprised since M7 has always wanted to pose as a regional strongman when in truth Uganda was and still is a 5th world country.
On the world stage the biggest indictment of a nations true character was the state of the Russian army during their 1979-89 incursion. Then as now the major aim was to corner global opium production,with the secondary aim getting friendly territory near a warm water port,in this case Karachi in Pakistan. The world at the time ululated about the imminent danger of rampant World Communism invading the Capitalist West but the truth was Russia couldn't properly supply the 40th Army just across their southern border!
Firstly the conscripts were hilarious misinformed being told the Muj were all drug dealers while the majority wanted to assist "International Progressive Forces." They were genuinely shocked to find themselves under fire!!




https://mil-historicus..co.ke/2014/11/afghantsy-soviet-experience-in.html
Even elite units like Spets made do with sneakers as the pics show!! 50%,minimum 30% of all Afgantsy were regular users of both opium and/or heroin.
So guys before clamouring for MI 28s and Kamovs think-how good is your field welfare??



interesting,

tell me one thing where do u find all this info grin

u must be a real traveller in the cyber world grin grin grin


"army field welfare is often the best reflection of the true face of its regime"

this must be something new for most of the visitors here grin

really interesting issue/topic highlighted by u.



also on a different unrelated note do u know/many r not aware of the importance of terrain and climate acclimatization ?

even the elite of the elite troopers equipped with best gear will fail in a epic way if they r dropped in a conflict zone different from their peace keeping location without the necessary terrain and climate acclimatization.

eg if u take troops used to sea level level and drop them a high altitude terrain , 90 % will become ineffective ( many will even die ), unfit for battle within 12 hours due to High-altitude cerebral oedema, High Altitude Pulmonary Oedema ,acute mountain sickness etc

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by kikuyu1(m): 5:07pm On May 15, 2017
More pics of sneakers! Obviously a direct consequence of logistical failure which leads to the question: if they can't supply footwear what about R 73s,Kornets, AK 104s and the other poo we always shout about in here? Btw,their sleeping bags were cotton in a cold and snowy theatre!

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Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:11pm On May 15, 2017
kikuyu1:
More pics of sneakers! Obviously a direct consequence of logistical failure which leads to the question: if they can't supply footwear what about R 73s,Kornets, AK 104s and the other poo we always shout about in here? Btw,their sleeping bags were cotton in a cold and snowy theatre!

this got me smiling grin grin grin


anyways civilian shoes r also used to mask the shoe prints during ops inside enemy populated areas , this denies post operation investigation teams of the hostile country any advantage with regard to forensic clues .
Re: Technical Discussions On International Military Equipments Doctrines Tactics Etc by Nobody: 5:16pm On May 15, 2017
the problem with soviet army was and to an extent with russian army is this...

- use of conscripts hired for short intervals 1-3 years. they don't have a full time professional standing army.

these grunts hired on rotational basis lacks the experience to wage war under duress .


https://mil-historicus..co.ke/2014/11/afghantsy-soviet-experience-in.html
is this ur blog?

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