KingEbukaNaija:


Please stop the blatant circumlocution and answer my question . Do you think societal laws should decide what's right or wrong ? Yes or No

and you don't think all the laws in the bible were not written by and for the old barbarian society?

Earth2Metahuman:
and you don't think all the laws in the bible were not written by and for the old barbarian society?

The before Jesus or after Jesus society?

You see when you have a fork in a road and you choose one out of these forks then everything you do is based on what that side of the road presentd to you.


Morality was made for the law and not the law for morality.

naijadeyhia:



The before Jesus or after Jesus society?

before and after.
Did Jesus even condemn slavery?

Earth2Metahuman:
before and after.
Did Jesus even condemn slavery?

To answer you I will ask you a question.

Did Jesus practice Slavery?

naijadeyhia:


To answer you I will ask you a question.

Did Jesus practice Slavery?

I guess Jesus hated or more concerned about those that were selling petty stuff in the house of god than those making another humans slaves.

I wonder which is more brutal?

Slavery or selling birds in synagogue.

And someone think I should put the base of human morality on the book that thinks slavery is okay but selling food in the church is not ..
Wonderful.

Earth2Metahuman:
I guess Jesus hated or more concerned about those that were selling petty stuff in the house of god than those making another humans slaves.

I wonder which is more brutal?

Slavery or selling birds in synagogue.

You have not answered my question. Did Jesus practice slavery? Yes or no

naijadeyhia:


You have not answered my question. Did Jesus practice slavery? Yes or no

Your answer is No

Now answer mine.
Which is more brutal, selling humans as slaves and selling foods in church to take care of your family?

Did you know slave trade that took many black people in chainsto europe and america probably wouldn't have happened if Jesus
Condemned slavery with a single verse in the bible like he condemned those pharisees and those that are selling things in synagogue?

Earth2Metahuman:

Your answer is No

Now answer mine.
Which is more brutal, selling humans as slaves and selling foods in church to take care of your family?

Did you know slave trade that took many black people in chainsto europe and america probably wouldn't have happened if Jesus
Condemned slavery with a single verse in the bible like he condemned those pharisees and those that are selling things in synagogue?

Did Jesus condemn alcohol consumption? Did Jesus condemn thd putting on of trousers?

Simply because he said nothing directly against it does not mean he supported it. He believed in the "do as I do method and not do as I say".

Now if Jesus with all his popularity and influencd did not have a slave what does that tell you?

Dalaman I see you. And I know you are itching to just say something as always.

naijadeyhia:



Did Jesus condemn alcohol consumption? Did Jesus condemn thd putting on of trousers?

Simply because he said nothing directly against it does not mean he supported it. He believed in the "do as I do method and not do as I say".

Now if Jesus with all his popularity and influencd did not have a slave what does that tell you?

the bible already condemned drinking or wearing trousers fornication and what have you.
Most of the laws were created in old testament.
Jesus came to uphold these laws. Which means he doesn't have to condemn drinking or fornication, or the Pharisees over and over as they have already been condemned in the old testament which will amount to repeating existing law.

The old testament never condemned slavery or selling things in synagogue.
Jesus thinks slavery is okay but selling things in synagoue is not
that's why he never condemned slavery for selling things synagogues

Earth2Metahuman:
the bible already condemned drinking or wearing trousers fornication and what have you.
Most of the laws were created in old testament.
Jesus came to uphold these laws. Which means he doesn't have to condemn drinking or fornication, or the Pharisees over and over as they have already been condemned in the old testament which will amount to repeating existing law.

The old testament never condemned slavery or selling things in synagogue.
Jesus thinks slavery is okay but selling things in synagoue is not
that's why he never condemned slavery for selling things synagogues

Correction, Jesus did not come to uphold the law. He camd to fulfil it in Himself on the cross. The old testament laws died with Jesus Christ and he arosd with a new and better way of life....hence why we have thd old and the new testaments.

The old was not the reality ....it was a shadow of things to come....the old was based on rituals but the new is based on an actual practical life.

Hebrews 9....I think you need to read that.

naijadeyhia:



Correction, Jesus did not come to uphold the law. He camd to fulfil it in Himself on the cross. The old testament laws died with Jesus Christ and he arosd with a new and better way of life....hence why we have thd old and the new testaments.

The old was not the reality ....it was a shadow of things to come....the old was based on rituals but the new is based on an actual practical life.

Hebrews 9....I think you need to read that.

okay so old testament laws are no more right?

And still haven't answered the question..

Why does he think he needs to beat those selling things in the house of god and not those who were selling humans?

Earth2Metahuman:
okay so old testament laws are no more right?

And still haven't answered the question..

Why does he think he needs to beat those selling things in the house of god and not those who were selling humans?

Sigh!!! I already responded to this... backtrack a bit and read.

Earth2Metahuman:
okay so old testament laws are no more right?

And still haven't answered the question..

Why does he think he needs to beat those selling things in the house of god and not those who were selling humans?

You do realise that the best way to transform moral behaviour is to change moral views.
When Jesus said he was the son of God many chose to stone him...

When he said he would die and be resurrected many called him a heretic.

You cannot change everything throufh force. The best work is done when you change yourself.

naijadeyhia:



Sigh!!! I already responded to this... backtrack a bit and read.

no you didn't answer.

You said because jesus didn t do many things means we should use our brain not to do it because jesus didn't do it..

Which affirms most atheists position on morality. Society determines what is right or wrong.
It was okay to have slaves 400years ago, the society determined it is wrong now. No scripture needed.. Our empathy did its thing.

Now to my question.
Why did jesus find it difficult to condemn slavery but not only did he condemn selling things in the house of god, he took action.

Its like your dad coming home and saw some people raping your sister, he ignored them and brought out Cain and started flogging those that were eating on his plasma TV.

Earth2Metahuman:
and you don't think all the laws in the bible were not written by and for the old barbarian society?

As a Christian , no . That explains moral decadence .

KingEbukaNaija:


As a Christian , no . That explains moral decadence .

so do you think we should change our laws to Bible laws?

Earth2Metahuman:

Its like your dad coming home and saw some people raping your sister, he ignored them and brought Cain and started flogging those that were eating on his plasma TV.

Let me interrupt by adding that Slavery was more about r.ape than labor. Adult male, old women, and disfigured/ disabled African slaves worked on the farm.

Every other African slave in this godforsaken country was being r.aped from morning until nightfall, even babies.

A video of a pale man who sought pleasure from the tuber of a male horse and was rewarded with disembowelment made it's way around the internet a few years ago. Those were the slaveowners.
They've changed the story to make it look like it was cotton. No, the primary reason a person bought a slave was to phuck the children slaves.

Now please kontinu.

Earth2Metahuman:
so do you think we should change our laws to Bible laws?

Moral laws . Remember Jewish laws are different from moral laws

KingEbukaNaija:


Moral laws . Remember Jewish laws are different from moral laws

there is no morality in the bible.. The positive ones there are what we have known even before bible came..
E.g Thou shall not steal, there has been law against stealing even before bible was compiled.
The bible moral laws were compiled around what was present in the then society. That's why there is no, dnt take cocaine or smoke tobacco in the bible, or frowns at slavery or annexing other people's territory..
hunting animals for sport is not ok in our modern society now, but bible think its okay since the societies practically survive on hunting then.
Which shows the whole bible morality thing was written based on what the barbarian societies think were right or wrong and they have no place in modern society.

Earth2Metahuman:
there is no morality in the bible.. The positive ones there are what we have known even before bible came..
E.g Thou shall not steal, there has been law against stealing even before bible was compiled.
The bible moral laws were compiled around what was present in the then society. That's why there is no, dnt take cocaine or smoke tobacco in the bible, or frowns at slavery or annexing other people's territory..
hunting animals for sport is not ok for our society now, but bible think its okay since the societies practically survived based on that then.
Which shows the whole bible morality thing was written based on what the barbarian societies think are right or wrong and it has no place in modern society.

This says it all

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All these atheists we have on Nairaland , they claim they have moral compass when apparently they have none .

As long as you think your God is good, it would indicate that you don't just lack a moral compass, but your compass confuses evil for good.

Golden Rule.

Weah96:
Golden Rule.

More like you took Golden Guinea before typing this. Last time I wanted to find out if you were on drugs after you displayed honesty and now I'm sure you must be drunk .

thehomer:


As long as you think your God is good, it would indicate that you don't just lack a moral compass, but your compass confuses evil for good.

God took the life he created , what's the problem or how is that nefarious ?

Edelweiss44:


Point of correction sir, I never implied that "God CANNOT kill you"........in fact, God CAN kill you, and if you continue on this path of foolhardy opposition to your creator without repenting, I can assure you that HE MAY KILL YOU SOONER THAN YOU THINK.

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KingEbukaNaija:


More like you took Golden Guinea before typing this. Last time I wanted to find out if you were on drugs after you displayed honesty and now I'm sure you must be drunk .

It's called fatigue. Long day at work. I couldn't post anything more than 2 words.

KingEbukaNaija:


God took the life he created , what's the problem or how is that nefarious ?

It is nefarious in declaring that it is a good idea to kill 6 month old babies because they're boys.

Without God, everything is permissible. No man or society made of men can decide for me what I can and cannot do.

braithwaite:



KingEbukaNaija
So..this an attack on all atheist huh? Where's your morality?before you start talking on atheist morality

Only shallow minds think skepticism is a form of attack . We were scrutinizing the morality of atheists and found out that you guys have no morality - no good no evil.

KingEbukaNaija:


Only shallow minds think skepticism is a form of attack . We were scrutinizing the morality of atheists and found out that you guys have no morality - no good no evil.

Maybe atheists are on the same level as your god since your god also has NO morality too OR what does your god base his morality on? He has "no good no evil"

Start worshipping atheists around you