At last, it is with excitement, capital joy amidst jubilation and celebration of over 20 years struggle of Nigerian Polytechnic students and graduates including the staff unions and heads of Polytechnic in Nigeria.

I am pleased to announce to the public that the COUNCIL OF ESTABLISHMENT which comprises of all the head of service of the 36 States of the Federation and the head of service of the Federation approved the removal of this long overdue dichotomy which hinder the career progression of HND holders in civil service in her 39th meeting held in Minna Niger state capital during the week after an exhaustive deliberation, pro and anti deposition which ended with tie vote of 16 against 16 while the head of service of the Federation voted in support as presiding officer after the tie, to earn the Polytechnic sector the victory.

Making the vote 17 pro against 16 anti. Henceforth, This resolution automatically lift embargo on HND holder career progression in civil service as the holder can now rise beyond Deputy Director in civil service as well enjoy all sort of benefits/promotion to the topmost rank due to BSc holders in civil service.

It is on record that this same Council was the sole obstacle for this struggle since year 2005 when President Olusegun Obasanjo pronounced the removal of this dichotomy, the Council called the then president statement a mere pronouncement with out documentation and refused it adoption nor implementation.

It will be recalled that the last meeting of the council which was held at Ilorin kwara state capital witness heavy presence of Nigeria Polytechnic students which I personally led as the National Senate President of NAPS to the council in protest for the need for the council to reconsider her position on the said matter.

A position paper was submitted after the protest as demanded by the then head of service of Federation who was the chairman of the Council, unfortunately, the matter was completely discussed nor concluded at Ilorin until now in her next meeting in Niger state.

The Council often meets every 2 years, On behalf of the entire West Africa Polytechnic students and most especially the Nigeria Polytechnic students, I express sincere gratitude to the head of service of states and that of the Federation who stood for us and with us, the Federal Ministry of Education, the National Board for Technical Education NTBE, Council of Head of Polytechnic and Colleges of Technology COHEADS, Academic Staff Union of Polytechnic ASUP, past and present leadership of National Association Of Polytechnic Students NAPS and by extension the Nigerians Union of journalist for their support all through the struggle.

We look forward for immediate implementation by all state of the Federation, Federal government agencies and departments while I call on all Polytechnic student to join us as we Commence appreciation/celebration.

Amb S A Lukman ‪#‎AIG‬
Immediate past Senate President NAPS, Outgoing Regional President WAPSU

http://www.edificationinfo.com/2016/07/hndbsc-dichotomy-removed.html

cc lalasticlala

noted

Let them implement it.Asap

Good! Buh certificate nodey aepp again

this is awesome

soup sauce.

Who certificate epp ? But on serious note, polytechnic students are good.

Until it is implemented b4 I can celebrate this long over due dichotomy.


What abt d private sector discrimination?

It is a welcom development.

Good but let's wait for implementation. Also, the syllabus should be amended asap.

I dey tells u... Very good

it a welcome development.....firsted and seconded

How true is this info?? which official website published it? I just checked google to see if there is any official statement released to this effect but couldn't find yet.
Well..its a welcome idea and a great victory for the HND holders.
does this mean HND holders can now go for Masters directly without PGD??

Good news but it never really existed it just existed in the mind of those who believed that University cert had more value than a poly cert but they have always been equivalent

The truth is that's polytechnic is never and will never be equal to university, there is no were in the world they are equal...
A typical example is in engineering
Is like saying an engineer is now equal to a Technologist... That's never possible
While u study engineering in the universities u study engineering technology in the polytechnic...
It's like a nurse claiming equality to a doctor it is not right

mrvitalis:
The truth is that's polytechnic is never and will never be equal to university, there is no were in the world they are equal...

It's like a nurse claiming equality to a doctor it is not right

Please don't type again. Your analogy is inappropriate.

mrvitalis:
The truth is that's polytechnic is never and will never be equal to university, there is no were in the world they are equal...
A typical example is in engineering
Is like saying an engineer is now equal to a Technologist... That's never possible
While u study engineering in the universities u study engineering technology in the polytechnic...
It's like a nurse claiming equality to a doctor it is not right

You are an educational illiterate.

When you

Define Engineering.?

Define Technology.?

Then you will understand why the dichotomy must be removed.

mrvitalis:
The truth is that's polytechnic is never and will never be equal to university, there is no were in the world they are equal...
A typical example is in engineering
Is like saying an engineer is now equal to a Technologist... That's never possible
While u study engineering in the universities u study engineering technology in the polytechnic...
It's like a nurse claiming equality to a doctor it is not right

What is this one saying?


Do you know that MIT is not referred to as a university nor polytechnic? Do you know that it is the best place of learning when it comes to engineering and technology?

IdisuleOurOwn:



What is this one saying?


Do you know that MIT is not referred to as a university nor polytechnic? Do you know that it is the best place of learning when it comes to engineering and technology?

MIT awards different certification and they are not equal
Even in the oil industry the difference is clear

IdisuleOurOwn:



What is this one saying?


Do you know that MIT is not referred to as a university nor polytechnic? Do you know that it is the best place of learning when it comes to engineering and technology?

Get ur facts straight
Who is a Technician, Technologist or Engineer?

Technicians

In general, technicians have a two year degree such as A.A.S, or A.S.E.T. Technicians with an associate degree can transfer to a bachelor of technology program and complete the bachelor's degree in another two years. However, associate degree in engineering technology is not able to have smooth transfer into engineering degree program without losing many credits.

Technicians are most often employed in service jobs. The work typically involves equipment installation, troubleshooting and repair, testing and measuring, maintenance and adjustment, manufacturing, or operation. Technicians in these positions are sometimes called field service technicians, field service engineers, or customer representatives. Technicians also work as engineering technicians, lab technicians, engineering assistant, or associate engineer.

Engineering Technologist

An engineering technologist is a specialist devoted to the implementation of existing technology within a field of engineering. Technologists often work with engineers in a wide variety of projects by applying basic engineering principles and technical skills. The work of technologists is usually focused on the portion of the technological spectrum closest to product improvement, manufacturing, construction, and engineering operational functions.

Internationally, the Sydney Accord is an agreement signed in 2001 acknowledging the academic equivalence of accredited engineering technology programs in the signatory nations. In some countries, only individuals who have graduated from an accredited curriculum in engineering technology and have a significant amount of work experience in their field may become registered technologists. A technologist's recognition may be in the form of a certification or a professional registration.

Technologists are employed in a large and wide-array of industries, including manufacturing, construction, industrial, maintenance, and management. They may be hired as managers of technology, depending on the technologist's educational emphasis on management preparation. Entry-level positions such as product design, testing, development, systems development, field engineering, technical operations, and quality control are all common positions for engineering technology graduates.

In general, the work of engineering technologists focuses on the applied and practical application of engineering principles, whereas the work of engineers emphasizes the theoretical aspects of mathematical, scientific and engineering principles. Candidates must have a minimum of a high school diploma or high school equivalent.

Engineers

Engineers design equipment and systems. They have B.S., M.S., or Ph.D. in Electrical, Mechanical, Civil or other engineering fields. Many engineers also have degrees in engineering technology such as B.T, B.E.T, or B.S.E.T plus some engineering certification. The main difference between the B.T. graduate and the engineering graduate is that, the B.T. graduate usually takes courses that are more practical and hands-on than engineering courses. Holders of B.T. degrees can generally design equipment and systems but do not typically have the depth background in analytical mathematics required for complex design jobs. To overcome this deficiency, SUNY Canton B.T. programs have minor in mathematics for students who want to have strong mathematics background. Generally speaking, graduates with B.T. degrees are employed as engineers in manufacturing, quality control, design, and field service.

The National Society of Professional Engineers describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology:

"The distinction between engineering and engineering technology emanates primarily from differences in their educational programs. Engineering programs are geared toward development of conceptual skills, and consist of a sequence of engineering fundamentals and design courses, built on a foundation of complex mathematics and science courses. Engineering technology programs are oriented toward application, and provide their students introductory mathematics and science courses, and only a qualitative introduction to engineering fundamentals. Thus, engineering programs provide their graduates a breadth and depth of knowledge that allows them to function as designers. Engineering technology programs prepare their graduates to apply others' designs."

The Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology as: "Engineering and technology are separate, but intimately related professions. Here are some of the ways they differ:

Engineering undergraduate programs include more mathematics work and higher level mathematics than technology programs.
Engineering undergraduate programs often focus on theory, while technology programs usually focus on application.
Once they enter the workforce, engineering graduates typically spend their time planning, while engineering technology graduates spend their time making plans work.
At ABET, engineering and engineering technology programs are evaluated and accredited by two separate accreditation commissions using two separate sets of accreditation criteria.
Graduates from engineering programs are called engineers, while graduates of technology programs are often called technologists.
Graduates from engineering technology programs are often hired as engineers.
The engineering graduate typically requires a period of 'internship' since engineering programs stress fundamentals. The engineering technology graduate, however, is prepared to immediately begin technical assignments since technology programs stress current industrial practices and design procedures.

buzzchick:
Please don't type again. Your analogy is inappropriate.

madam a nurse can never act or be like a doctor.....u can never ever compare HND to Bsc.....besides na God sure pass...

mrvitalis:

Get ur facts straight
Who is a Technician, Technologist or Engineer?

Technicians

In general, technicians have a two year degree such as A.A.S, or A.S.E.T. Technicians with an associate degree can transfer to a bachelor of technology program and complete the bachelor's degree in another two years. However, associate degree in engineering technology is not able to have smooth transfer into engineering degree program without losing many credits.

Technicians are most often employed in service jobs. The work typically involves equipment installation, troubleshooting and repair, testing and measuring, maintenance and adjustment, manufacturing, or operation. Technicians in these positions are sometimes called field service technicians, field service engineers, or customer representatives. Technicians also work as engineering technicians, lab technicians, engineering assistant, or associate engineer.

Engineering Technologist

An engineering technologist is a specialist devoted to the implementation of existing technology within a field of engineering. Technologists often work with engineers in a wide variety of projects by applying basic engineering principles and technical skills. The work of technologists is usually focused on the portion of the technological spectrum closest to product improvement, manufacturing, construction, and engineering operational functions.

Internationally, the Sydney Accord is an agreement signed in 2001 acknowledging the academic equivalence of accredited engineering technology programs in the signatory nations. In some countries, only individuals who have graduated from an accredited curriculum in engineering technology and have a significant amount of work experience in their field may become registered technologists. A technologist's recognition may be in the form of a certification or a professional registration.

Technologists are employed in a large and wide-array of industries, including manufacturing, construction, industrial, maintenance, and management. They may be hired as managers of technology, depending on the technologist's educational emphasis on management preparation. Entry-level positions such as product design, testing, development, systems development, field engineering, technical operations, and quality control are all common positions for engineering technology graduates.

In general, the work of engineering technologists focuses on the applied and practical application of engineering principles, whereas the work of engineers emphasizes the theoretical aspects of mathematical, scientific and engineering principles. Candidates must have a minimum of a high school diploma or high school equivalent.

Engineers

Engineers design equipment and systems. They have B.S., M.S., or Ph.D. in Electrical, Mechanical, Civil or other engineering fields. Many engineers also have degrees in engineering technology such as B.T, B.E.T, or B.S.E.T plus some engineering certification. The main difference between the B.T. graduate and the engineering graduate is that, the B.T. graduate usually takes courses that are more practical and hands-on than engineering courses. Holders of B.T. degrees can generally design equipment and systems but do not typically have the depth background in analytical mathematics required for complex design jobs. To overcome this deficiency, SUNY Canton B.T. programs have minor in mathematics for students who want to have strong mathematics background. Generally speaking, graduates with B.T. degrees are employed as engineers in manufacturing, quality control, design, and field service.

The National Society of Professional Engineers describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology:

"The distinction between engineering and engineering technology emanates primarily from differences in their educational programs. Engineering programs are geared toward development of conceptual skills, and consist of a sequence of engineering fundamentals and design courses, built on a foundation of complex mathematics and science courses. Engineering technology programs are oriented toward application, and provide their students introductory mathematics and science courses, and only a qualitative introduction to engineering fundamentals. Thus, engineering programs provide their graduates a breadth and depth of knowledge that allows them to function as designers. Engineering technology programs prepare their graduates to apply others' designs."

The Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology as: "Engineering and technology are separate, but intimately related professions. Here are some of the ways they differ:

Engineering undergraduate programs include more mathematics work and higher level mathematics than technology programs.
Engineering undergraduate programs often focus on theory, while technology programs usually focus on application.
Once they enter the workforce, engineering graduates typically spend their time planning, while engineering technology graduates spend their time making plans work.
At ABET, engineering and engineering technology programs are evaluated and accredited by two separate accreditation commissions using two separate sets of accreditation criteria.
Graduates from engineering programs are called engineers, while graduates of technology programs are often called technologists.
Graduates from engineering technology programs are often hired as engineers.
The engineering graduate typically requires a period of 'internship' since engineering programs stress fundamentals. The engineering technology graduate, however, is prepared to immediately begin technical assignments since technology programs stress current industrial practices and design procedures.

kodine:
madam a nurse can never act or be like a doctor.....u can never ever compare HND to Bsc.....besides na God sure pass...

You see why Africans are backward in the field of knowledge.

You defined Technician, Engineering Technologist and Engineer

The question you should have asked yourself is, what is the definition of Technologist.?

Engineering Technologist is not the same as Technologist or Engineer.

Engineering Technologist is a blend of both. That is why Engineer was defined even after mentioning the word Engineer in Engineering Technology.



The inability of Africans to understand that Technologists are not Engineers and not below Engineers is the reason why Africans can't produce technological things


Difference between a Technologist and Engineering


Engineering focuses more on design based on scientific knowledge( equations, laws, theories,principles etc..)

That is why in engineering, you are taught scientific equations, laws , theories, principles etc and towards the last session in school DESIGN based on these things


Technologist focuses more how things work and how things are produced. This enables a Technologist to bring into reality things designed by Engineers.

That is why in Technology you are taught how things are produced and how they work and in the last session in school, you are taught what to consider when bringing a design into reality.


UNFORTUNATELY, No Nigerian higher institution teaches technology as it should be taught. Rather our polytechnics teach Engineering calling it Technology.

For this reason, we don't have enough graduates that can reproduced or invent new technological products that can be industrialized to aid our economy.

good one

For Nigeria and Africa to catch up with America , Europe and Asia, we must

1) Realize that a scientist , engineer and technologist are men of knowledge that are equal to each other just like the judiciary , executive and legislative.

2) We must teach technology the way it should be taught. In other words, our polytechnics should teach technologically and not in engineering format. Check above for how to teach technologically.

I understand your writings.

mrvitalis:

Get ur facts straight
Who is a Technician, Technologist or Engineer?

Technicians

In general, technicians have a two year degree such as A.A.S, or A.S.E.T. Technicians with an associate degree can transfer to a bachelor of technology program and complete the bachelor's degree in another two years. However, associate degree in engineering technology is not able to have smooth transfer into engineering degree program without losing many credits.

Technicians are most often employed in service jobs. The work typically involves equipment installation, troubleshooting and repair, testing and measuring, maintenance and adjustment, manufacturing, or operation. Technicians in these positions are sometimes called field service technicians, field service engineers, or customer representatives. Technicians also work as engineering technicians, lab technicians, engineering assistant, or associate engineer.

Engineering Technologist

An engineering technologist is a specialist devoted to the implementation of existing technology within a field of engineering. Technologists often work with engineers in a wide variety of projects by applying basic engineering principles and technical skills. The work of technologists is usually focused on the portion of the technological spectrum closest to product improvement, manufacturing, construction, and engineering operational functions.

Internationally, the Sydney Accord is an agreement signed in 2001 acknowledging the academic equivalence of accredited engineering technology programs in the signatory nations. In some countries, only individuals who have graduated from an accredited curriculum in engineering technology and have a significant amount of work experience in their field may become registered technologists. A technologist's recognition may be in the form of a certification or a professional registration.

Technologists are employed in a large and wide-array of industries, including manufacturing, construction, industrial, maintenance, and management. They may be hired as managers of technology, depending on the technologist's educational emphasis on management preparation. Entry-level positions such as product design, testing, development, systems development, field engineering, technical operations, and quality control are all common positions for engineering technology graduates.

In general, the work of engineering technologists focuses on the applied and practical application of engineering principles, whereas the work of engineers emphasizes the theoretical aspects of mathematical, scientific and engineering principles. Candidates must have a minimum of a high school diploma or high school equivalent.

Engineers

Engineers design equipment and systems. They have B.S., M.S., or Ph.D. in Electrical, Mechanical, Civil or other engineering fields. Many engineers also have degrees in engineering technology such as B.T, B.E.T, or B.S.E.T plus some engineering certification. The main difference between the B.T. graduate and the engineering graduate is that, the B.T. graduate usually takes courses that are more practical and hands-on than engineering courses. Holders of B.T. degrees can generally design equipment and systems but do not typically have the depth background in analytical mathematics required for complex design jobs. To overcome this deficiency, SUNY Canton B.T. programs have minor in mathematics for students who want to have strong mathematics background. Generally speaking, graduates with B.T. degrees are employed as engineers in manufacturing, quality control, design, and field service.

The National Society of Professional Engineers describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology:

"The distinction between engineering and engineering technology emanates primarily from differences in their educational programs. Engineering programs are geared toward development of conceptual skills, and consist of a sequence of engineering fundamentals and design courses, built on a foundation of complex mathematics and science courses. Engineering technology programs are oriented toward application, and provide their students introductory mathematics and science courses, and only a qualitative introduction to engineering fundamentals. Thus, engineering programs provide their graduates a breadth and depth of knowledge that allows them to function as designers. Engineering technology programs prepare their graduates to apply others' designs."

The Accreditation Board for Engineering and Technology describes the difference between engineering and engineering technology as: "Engineering and technology are separate, but intimately related professions. Here are some of the ways they differ:

Engineering undergraduate programs include more mathematics work and higher level mathematics than technology programs.
Engineering undergraduate programs often focus on theory, while technology programs usually focus on application.
Once they enter the workforce, engineering graduates typically spend their time planning, while engineering technology graduates spend their time making plans work.
At ABET, engineering and engineering technology programs are evaluated and accredited by two separate accreditation commissions using two separate sets of accreditation criteria.
Graduates from engineering programs are called engineers, while graduates of technology programs are often called technologists.
Graduates from engineering technology programs are often hired as engineers.
The engineering graduate typically requires a period of 'internship' since engineering programs stress fundamentals. The engineering technology graduate, however, is prepared to immediately begin technical assignments since technology programs stress current industrial practices and design procedures.

Bro,i'm forced 2 say that you're very intelligent. Do u know that I studied mech Eng from yabatech,the work we did were mostly theoretical design calculations;mathematical courses like laplace transform,lagrande,fourier series,complex series. These are purely calculative courses. I always smile when I hear people say hnd holders are very vast practically,because it doesn't seem to be. Most of the courses we offered are taught too in the universities, and there seem not to be a difference when you talk about the manner in which they are being taught. For me,the only difference between a Nigerian hnd and a bsc holder are the few courses intentionally omitted from the hnd syllabus while being drafted to that of the bsc. Is this not wickedness?

ConqueredWest:




You see why Africans are backward in the field of knowledge.

You defined Technician, Engineering Technologist and Engineer

The question you should have asked yourself is, what is the definition of Technologist.?

Engineering Technologist is not the same as Technologist or Engineer.

Engineering Technologist is a blend of both. That is why Engineer was defined even after mentioning the word Engineer in Engineering Technology.



The inability of Africans to understand that Technologists are not Engineers and not below Engineers is the reason why Africans can't produce technological things


Difference between a Technologist and Engineering


Engineering focuses more on design based on scientific knowledge( equations, laws, theories,principles etc..)

That is why in engineering, you are taught scientific equations, laws , theories, principles etc and towards the last session in school DESIGN based on these things


Technologist focuses more how things work and how things are produced. This enables a Technologist to bring into reality things designed by Engineers.

That is why in Technology you are taught how things are produced and how they work and in the last session in school, you are taught what to consider when bringing a design into reality.


UNFORTUNATELY, No Nigerian higher institution teaches technology as it should be taught. Rather our polytechnics teach Engineering calling it Technology.

For this reason, we don't have enough graduates that can reproduced or invent new technological products that can be industrialized to aid our economy.

illuminated93:
Bro,i'm forced 2 say that you're very intelligent. Do u know that I studied mech Eng from yabatech,the work we did were mostly theoretical design calculations;mathematical courses like laplace transform,lagrande,fourier series,complex series. These are purely calculative courses. I always smile when I hear people say hnd holders are very vast practically,because it doesn't seem to be. Most of the courses we offer are taught too in the universities,they don't seem to be different when you talk about the manner in which they are being taught. For me,the only difference between a Nigerian hnd and a bsc holder are the few courses intentionally omitted from the hnd syllabus while being drafted to that of the bsc. Is this not wickedness?

What you were taught in Yabatech was Engineering and not Technology. That was why you noticed the similarities.

I want you to answer this question in order to enlighten mrvitalis

HOW MANY MECHANICAL PRODUCTS WERE YOU TAUGHT ON HOW THEY ARE PRODUCED AND HOW THEY WORK.?

WERE YOU TAUGHT HOW ENGINES, COMPRESSORS, GEAR BOXES, ETC ARE PRODUCED OR HOW THEY WORK.


I believe your answer will enable Nigerians to realise why we have lots of graduates who can't produce a dime.

We weren't taught how to produce a compressor,gearbox or mechanical equipments. When we came across compressors,we were mostly concerned with the thermodynamic processes taking place inside it. We talked about enthalpy,heat change,we made use of a steam table to get mathematical answers to problems. Still on compressor, we treated equations concerned with finding out amount of heat needed in compressors to produce a certain change in temperature in the refrigerating cabinet. When you look at all what I've stated,you come to a conclusion that we did majorly design works ,as calculations are necessary to understand and determine how the already constructed edifice will function. We were never taught how to put components together to produce an edifice. I spoke about wickedness,pls say something about it.

ConqueredWest:


What you were taught in Yabatech was Engineering and not Technology. That was why you noticed the similarities.

I want you to answer this question in order to put enlighten mrvitalis

HOW MANY MECHANICAL PRODUCTS WERE YOU TAUGHT ON HOW THEY ARE PRODUCED AND HOW THEY WORK.?

WERE YOU TAUGHT HOW ENGINES, COMPRESSORS, GEAR BOXES, ETC ARE PRODUCED OR HOW THEY WORK.


I believe your answer will enable Nigerians to realise why we have lots of graduates who can't produce a dime.

We weren't taught how to produce a compressor,gearbox or mechanical equipments. When we came across compressors,we were mostly concerned with the thermodynamic processes taking place inside it. We talked about enthalpy,heat change,we made use of a steam table to get mathematical answers to problems. Still on compressor, we treated equations concerned with finding out amount of heat needed in compressors to produce a certain change in temperature in the refrigerating cabinet. When you look at all what I've stated,you come to a conclusion that we did majorly design works ,as calculations are necessary to understand and determine how the already constructed edifice will function. We were never taught how to put components together to produce an edifice. The thing is people mistake design for construction,this is wrong. Design is concerned with calculations, where we talk about specifications,the input need to produce a required output, etc; constructions is the putting together of small things to form a whole with respect to the design details. Design tells you the safe values the builder must abide by. I spoke about wickedness,pls say something about it.

ConqueredWest:


What you were taught in Yabatech was Engineering and not Technology. That was why you noticed the similarities.

I want you to answer this question in order to put enlighten mrvitalis

HOW MANY MECHANICAL PRODUCTS WERE YOU TAUGHT ON HOW THEY ARE PRODUCED AND HOW THEY WORK.?

WERE YOU TAUGHT HOW ENGINES, COMPRESSORS, GEAR BOXES, ETC ARE PRODUCED OR HOW THEY WORK.


I believe your answer will enable Nigerians to realise why we have lots of graduates who can't produce a dime.

We weren't taught how to produce a compressor,gearbox or mechanical equipments. When we came across compressors,we were mostly concerned with the thermodynamic processes taking place inside it. We talked about enthalpy,heat change,we made use of a steam table to get mathematical answers to problems. Still on compressor, we treated equations concerned with finding out amount of heat needed in compressors to produce a certain change in temperature in the refrigerating cabinet. When you look at all what I've stated,you come to a conclusion that we did majorly design work ,as calculations are necessary to understand and determine how the already constructed edifice will function. We were never taught how to put components together to produce an edifice. The thing is people mistake design for construction,this is wrong. Design is concerned with calculations, where we talk about specifications,the input needed to produce a required output, etc; construction is the putting together of small things to form a whole with respect to the design details. Design tells you the safe values the builder must abide by. I spoke about wickedness,pls say something about it.

ConqueredWest:


What you were taught in Yabatech was Engineering and not Technology. That was why you noticed the similarities.

I want you to answer this question in order to put enlighten mrvitalis

HOW MANY MECHANICAL PRODUCTS WERE YOU TAUGHT ON HOW THEY ARE PRODUCED AND HOW THEY WORK.?

WERE YOU TAUGHT HOW ENGINES, COMPRESSORS, GEAR BOXES, ETC ARE PRODUCED OR HOW THEY WORK.


I believe your answer will enable Nigerians to realise why we have lots of graduates who can't produce a dime.

illuminated93:
We weren't taught how to produce a compressor,gearbox or mechanical equipments. When we came across compressors,we were mostly concerned with the thermodynamic processes taking place inside it. We talked about enthalpy,heat change,we made use of a steam table to get mathematical answers to problems. Still on compressor, we treated equations concerned with finding out amount of heat needed in compressors to produce a certain change in temperature in the refrigerating cabinet. When you look at all what I've stated,you come to a conclusion that we did majorly design works ,as calculations are necessary to understand and determine how the already constructed edifice will function. We were never taught how to put components together to produce an edifice. I spoke about wickedness,pls say something about it.

It is wickedness born out of ignorance.

Do you know that most Nigerians don't know that there is a difference between Mechanical engineering and Mechanical technology.

A polytechnic should not teach Mechanical engineering but Mechanical technology. Whereby the students are taught how Mechanical products are produced and how they work.

A polytechnic should not award a degree in Mechanical engineering but a degree in Mechanical technology.

Nigerians should take note that Technology is on equal footing with Engineering and Science.

Therefore a Technologist is not inferior to an Engineer or Scientist.


Mrvitalis hope you now understand

Polytechnics and Universities aren't d same at d levels of research, curricula and teachers. You can't equate any polytechnics to universities. The essence of their existence differs.

mandarin:
Polytechnics and Universities aren't d same at d levels of research, curricula and teachers. You can't equate any polytechnics to universities. The essence of their existence differs.

You are wrong.

This your false orientation is one of the major reasons why Africa is backward when it comes to producing modern technological products.