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Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by alimat2(f): 1:49pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
I think the problem xtains are having about their bible is lack of understanding about the language in whic the bible is being reveal to them, If xtians can take their time to study/learn the language they will properly be more informed about their god/bible/believe. Xtians why dnt u learn the language called Hebrew for proper understanding of ur religion ?? |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 1:52pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
What matters is the truths that are contained therein the Bible. Not some concocted tales and plagiarized materials as contained in the koran. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by noetic15(m): 1:59pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
alimat 2: and fortunately for xtians, it is an ignorantly delusive slave of allah that would help us understand the bible make up ur mind. . . .first u claim the bible is "corrupt", now u are desperately trying to find mohammed in the bible do u need any other confirmation that islam is a fraud? |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by olabowale(m): 5:00pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
@Noetic15: « #34 on: Today at 01:59:47 PM » and fortunately for xtians, it is an ignorantly delusive slave of allah that would help us understand the bibleSlave of Allah will help you undersatand the Bible, ignorantly delutional or not! make up your mind. . . .first u claim the bible is "corrupt", now u are desperately trying to find mohammed in the bibleListen to this stubborn pseudo-englishman! You as christian should make up your mind, concerning the OT which you now relegated to a single line; thou shall love your God with all your heart, and your neighbors like yourself, is a complete iconoclastic overview/position aganst the OT itself, even though we read earlier that Jesus said that the OT laws and its prophets must not be obliterated and even a jot, as the smallest of the laws must remain active, warning whoever acts against this or encourages any to act against this, that person will shall be the least in heaven's kingdom! Your turning from Genesis to even Songs of Solomon, etc before the Gospel, to a mere one liner, is either you are saying the OT is not worth more than that one line, being acorrupt book, since a lot of wars were fought in it and its not all love and more love, but real human life and existence, or that the NT itself is corrupt for turning such a book to a single liner? This is why Quran is the moderate book, discarding all the fallacies while keeping the prestine truth of the books of the Children of Israel, in the Quran. Noetic, disprove the argument we the Muslims are making agaisnt the authenticity of the Taurah, Sabur and Injil, with good reason. To say because we say the bible is corrupt, you therefore assume that everything is incorrect, is silly. Consider that when you chatted with me, you behaved like a pure gentleman, now to me, in your anger at me, you behave like a corrupt hardened man. You see how impure you arenow that you are corrupt, yet you are still a man, male, yoruba, human, nigerian, still noetic in England. Now thats how you should look at the Bible; viewed through the Muslim's prizm! This does not even approach Muslims, less Islam as any thing fraudulent! |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 5:13pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
. . . the simple argument is for muslims to provide that copy of the Bible that is not corrupted. When you accuse somebody, the burden of proof lies on you! So tomorrow somebody will come and proclaim rubbish and we take him serious? No way! |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by littleb(m): 11:36pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
Nezan: When you read Quran from fatiha to Nazz, there is no reference to what is called bible. What Allah revealed is Torah reveal to Moses(AS) or injeel, the gospel of Jesus(AS. Tell me, in your bible, which book is Jesus Gospel and which book is Moses Torah. The relevant one which was first five books you acclaimed to be by Moses was never even by Moses coz it was third level info. When you read Quran, just reflect on the wording, it is direct from almighty through angel jibril to prophet Muhammad and that was all revelation before it, not a conjoined incoherent stories, contradictions and the likes. There are so much ample evidence to disregard bible as Gods words, despite some goods moral teachings, related prophetic stories and the likes. There are story books who teaches morals lessons as well, but a book like bible becme wretched when you bring it under authorship of God Almighty. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by SOLAADETUNJI: 11:47pm On Oct 05, 2009 |
One thing is very plain:Xtians and Muslims are not worshiping the same God (or do I call it god?) How Can One God say Thou Shall not Kill and that same God support Killing in the name of Jihad.Surely One of these 2 religion is fake and fraudulent.Or what do you think? |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by SOLAADETUNJI: 12:18am On Oct 06, 2009 |
In all sincerity Islam seems to me to be the fraudulent religion.Okay,what about these: #According to Sura 4:74, 9:5 and 9:29 Muslims are to slay (kill) non-Muslims #Those who fight and die for Allah in Sura 52:17-20; 55:56-58; 55:70-74 and 56:37-38, will be rewarded with best fruits, rivers of vine, and 72 voluptuous fair virgin ladies in Heaven. Surely when the Muslims get to their own heaven there will still be polygamy and enjoyment of ladies! There are many other facts.I will post them later |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by littleb(m): 12:20am On Oct 06, 2009 |
SOLA ADETUNJI: Sola Adetunji, I recognise you by your name. A whole omo Adetunji. Which one is greater between Jesus and GOD? That is question for you, but before that, do you ever read Jesus started Jihad by ordered his enemies to be killed? |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by littleb(m): 12:24am On Oct 06, 2009 |
SOLA ADETUNJI: I believ people would like to read more of your facts, but before that. Read through the forum, coz many of what you might think in mind might have been discussed. YOu 're Welcome on board |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 1:00pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
When you read Quran from fatiha to Nazz, there is no reference to what is called bible. What Allah revealed is Torah reveal to Moses(AS) or injeel, the gospel of Jesus(AS. Tell me, in your bible, which book is Jesus Gospel and which book is Moses Torah. The relevant one which was first five books you acclaimed to be by Moses was never even by Moses coz it was third level info. When you read Quran, just reflect on the wording, it is direct from almighty through angel jibril to prophet Muhammad and that was all revelation before it, not a conjoined incoherent stories, contradictions and the likes. There are so much ample evidence to disregard bible as Gods words, despite some goods moral teachings, related prophetic stories and the likes. There are story books who teaches morals lessons as well, but a book like bible becme wretched when you bring it under authorship of God Almighty. See why I always say muslims are deluded? somebody sat, plagiarised/altered Biblical stories and added a spice of arabian fairytales and you want us to take him serious? not minding the bad morals exhibitted by him? he was paedophillic, murdered many people, robbed people, married over 30 wives etc. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by noetic15(m): 1:41pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
olabowale: how can a slave of allah, who has no knowledge of the historical analogy of allah teach an xtian what the bible entails?. . . . . . . does it make any sense?. . . .how many muslims know the history of allah? how many muslims know that allah i a moon-god?
1. you are the one that needs to make up ur mind. is the bible corrupt or not? if yes. . . where is the original version? and why are u trying to find mohammed's name in a corrupt book? if no. . . . is it not obvious that muslims and xtians serve different persons? 2. there is NOTHING for me to prove or disprove. allah claims that the bible is corrupt. . . . . what EXACTLY is stopping allah from producing the original version?. . .I want to see it |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by alimat2(f): 1:53pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
Nezan: Thank God if u say smbody sat and rite the book, fine! Go and gather all the scientist, professors,scholars,pastors and etc of this world to sit and write a book like this if it will be so perfect like this book callled Koran! |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 2:01pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
@alimat; what credit will you give somebody who is accused of plagiarism? possibly a jail term! |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by olabowale(m): 2:32pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
But Nezan, what shall be thepayment of the liar who accused a purely devine revelation of plagiarism from versioned book that has no true Original? Shame and banishment? Accuser who can proof his accusation deserves a big shame! In 1975, after Murtala Muhammad (ra) was murdered, Fela Anikulapo accused him before his death. I think a week or so before that brother was killed that Friday morning! The Supreme military council retroactively enacted a decree that whoever a public figure especially when he is dead must be able to proof his accusation, otherwise deserves a long prison sentence! Somehow, they settled the situation of te accusation of Fela, otherwise he would have served a hard labored prison sentence! Your case, Nezan is very similar. Thank God there is no Islamic countryon earth at the moment in my view and you are not living in one anyhow, else you should be wearing metal bracelets just about now. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Arkison: 2:54pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
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Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 3:26pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
@olabowale, . . . . and thank God you are not living in an islamic country like iran, they would have turned you into suya for your anti-Ayatollah views |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by muhsin(m): 4:50pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
@Nezan, Must you comment on everything? |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Nezan(m): 5:40pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
@Nezan, Kettle calling pot black. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by muhsin(m): 6:00pm On Oct 06, 2009 |
@ LOL |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by focused123(m): 12:57pm On Nov 26, 2009 |
@poster : Wonders shall never end. There is no where in the bible or Torah that Muhammed was predicted. Muhammed is not the comforter. Islam is a cult. It was Ibn Khazem (1064) who was the first Muhammadan to charge that the Bible has been corrupted and falsified by the followers of Moses and Jesus. This charge was made in a last ditch and desperate effort to defend 'Islam' against Christianity because he came upon the many serious and unexplainable contradictions and differences between the Quran and the Bible. Believing by faith that the Quran is true and incorruptible, Ibn Khazem had no choice but to come to the conclusion that then it must be the CURRENT Bible that is false and untrue especially since Muhammad instructed his followers to respect the Bible in the first place |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Abuzola11(m): 12:49am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Oh ! What a goon, go to the vatican and see the oldest bible, muhammad name is written as ahmad as the comforter |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by No2Atheism(m): 12:52am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Abuzola 1: - How did you see the bible - When did the bible come into being. - Ahmad the terrorist you mean . . . |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Abuzola11(m): 12:56am On Nov 30, 2009 |
It is on record, your bible had undergo many changes as time goes, go to vatican and don't bother me |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by 0hsisi: 12:59am On Nov 30, 2009 |
sleek29,a Muslim who came to the saving Grace has done justice to this thread. Need I say more. It's amazing how these sons of the bondwoman tell us the Bible is corrupt yet they find Mohammed all over it's texts. What a confused bunch. |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by 0hsisi: 1:01am On Nov 30, 2009 |
So, can Machmad signify Muhammad? Wise men allow that when one verse is in doubt it is justified to explain one passage of the Bible by another. The word machmad appears twelve more times in the Old Testament. Since Muslims are so intent on finding the name of Muhammad in the Hebrew word "machmad," it is important that they remain consistent. Therefore, we have printed these twelve prophetic verses below and leave it to you to ascertain whether they fit. Note that we have been consistent in now translating this word as the long-neglected "proper noun" which they claim it to be. Classic summation The area in red is the clincher |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by No2Atheism(m): 1:02am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Abuzola 1: I would bother you since you were the one that mentioned it, hence you are insinuating that you know what you are talking about. Hence assuming that you know what you are talking about, can you please tell us : - How did you see the bible containing ahmad the comforter. - Do muslims have a copy of it. . . - When did the bible come into being. - If muslims do not have a copy of it and did not see it . . .then how did you know that it says Ahmad the Comforter. - If you cannot answer the above questions, does that not show to any reasonable person that you are just saying something ridiculous without evidence (aka lying) |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Abuzola11(m): 1:19am On Nov 30, 2009 |
The catholics revealed the secret to us and we also have an ancient copy of the bible in syria and hadith, Quran also said so |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by No2Atheism(m): 1:56am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Abuzola 1: When did they reveal it . Please show us a copy of it . Where is it in syria. Hadith and Quran are useless hence not acceptable as evidence . . . Show us the copy that you have in syria that mentions ahmad. . . |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Abuzola11(m): 1:59am On Nov 30, 2009 |
The copy in syria is in the museum, when you go ask the curator. The catholic leaked the secret to us and not a documented one |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by No2Atheism(m): 2:07am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Abuzola 1: So it is now a secret . . . .haaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaabuahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamuaaaaaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Abuzola wan kill me o ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ------------------------------------------------------------ So does that mean you have not seen the copy yourself . . . since u claim its in a museum . . . . |
Re: Muhammad Confirmed Unknowingly By Rabbis by Abuzola11(m): 2:13am On Nov 30, 2009 |
Anyway thats funny with the way you opened ur mouth wide, i have seen the exact copy in a hadith that is the same with other ones i.e the vatican own and syria. I have not been to syria and vatican to see it, till i go. |
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