ValentineMary:

And this was the wisdom that made him say that bats are birds, that we should kill stubborn kids, that we should kill unbelievers I guess u have a different definition for wisdom.

Science does not claim to be sure, that's why we still do research. But religion tells us that they are sure their creation story is right. Muslims think they are right, xtians think they are right, Hindus think they are right. But science does not claim to be right and we are the ones speculating abi


What if u die and discover that Omenra is the true God what would be ur fate? u can't just pick one of the 5,000 Gods and ask what if am wrong.


The same way a muslim would say accept Muhammed or be doomed. Why should I believe u over them?



All the Gods humans worship all claim to be living Gods. Why do u think ur own is special
Only a bigger fool would believe that day and night came before the Sun.

Lennycool:

well put. What makes the christian God different from the thousands out there? The only thing that favors Christianities God is it's large follower base and even these are widely divided. It's a model example of argumentum ad populum.

SirWere:
And also an argumentum ad ignoratium

Because no one has any knowledge about it; it must be God.
Quite sad.

SirWere:


.....for crissake; what's so hard in saying "I do not know"

SirWere:

Why must we assume supernatural forces despite the trend of supernatural forces being explained by natural mechanisms

Why must we be so receptive to ignorance and come to irrelevant conclusions


I tire; honestly.

EyeHateGod:
I don't see how the big bang contradict anything o it says an object will continue to move at a straight line unless it's been acted upon by an external force take not @underlined Is the universe not expanding at a constant speed? What has external force got to do with this


@op Ur topic doesn't make sense what has Big bang got to do with Atheism? Is that what U where taught in Church? Do U think it's all atheist that subscribe to Big bang

Lennycool:

See the contradictory statements you theist make, you reiterate that nothing can come out of nothing, yet you believe God came out of nothing because he is eternal. Is that logic?

CoolUsername:


Science is ask about patterns, can something come out of nothing? Yes, it can. We observe this in quantum mechanics with virtual particles. Can complex structures come from simple ones spontaneously? Yes, we see this in the development of crystals and molecular self-assembly.

Now can a complex system come from nothing without going through simpler phases? I'm afraid we are yet to see that.

shadeyinka:


The post makes perfect sense.

If at the beginning of the universe, all matter was at point 0. Why would it suddenly begin to expand if there is no external causing/initiating factor?

EyeHateGod:

They was no force to start with go and sit down! Av Already debunked Ur nonsense logic

EyeHateGod:

Av Already debunked Ur nonsense logic

shadeyinka:


Hey bro, no need to be angry at your very own now.
See, I am just trying to show you GOD with a little science and Reason.

I know that If I start talking Spirits and Demons you will laugh and say impossible. I use what you can relate with.


Remind me please!!!

shadeyinka:


What is so difficult in acknowledging the Probability of God/gods existence?

I admire your Faith in Science: Why?

You staked your eternity over an incomplete knowledge!

You are strong indeed.

I may be weak but not obstinate!

shadeyinka:


Cant you see that it is from your bum-bum that the fart is smelling!
Since Atheist don't know the answer, it cannot be God!

If Newton second law is valid_ at the origin of the universe: You will be wrong!
If Newton second law is invalid_ at the origin of the universe: You will still be wrong!!

shadeyinka:
Newton's first law of motion - sometimes referred to as the law of inertia states that:


This brings the question: At time t=0 (before the big bang), was space constituent static? Expanding universe actually show that at a time, the universe must essentially be a "point object".

If that is true, how come an "expansion of the universe" was initiated without an "external " cause?

Sorry, my understanding of Basic Physics is limited.

It takes a greater Faith being an Atheist!

ValentineMary:
Am sure the OP does not know that it was a catholic priest that proposed the big bang theory.

Mailthaddeus:



There can be no scientific validation for catholicism! Never, when u read stuffs written by so called professors, it doesn't guarantee that it must be always right. How on earth can someone relate the creation of catholic church to science. U have read d article right, pls shear d scientific theory here let's see hw valid ur argument is.

shadeyinka:


Can something come out of nothing? According to my elementary Physics NO!. I hear from the labs that the fundermental "particles" are quarks if I am not mistaken.

Quantum Physics actually proves that science can never be exact. There is always the probability of the Physically impossible taken place. in that Rhelm is GOD.

The more you try to measure Him in the laboratory, the more Elusive he becomes.

CoolUsername:


Maybe you should try to understand a concept before using it as a tool in your argument.

Quantum mechanics are actually very well understood. If scientists were wrong about one part, everything would fall apart.

It is also predictable, which is why we see theoretical particles being confirmed as real. The major constraint in its research is the fact that it occurs in such a small scale (how do you magnify a photon?).

So, no... it isn't proof of a creator. Sorry to disappoint you.

EyeHateGod:

Something can never come out from noting! But energy vibrating at the right frequency forms matter I don't know where U get the idea that that something came out from noting

shadeyinka:


Did I say Quantum Mechanics proves the existence of God? Heisenberg Uncertainty principle was the issue I was speaking about: Nothing is Exact!

SirWere:


Walahi, don't make me laff.

I DON'T KNOW what caused the expansion of the universe. I DON'T KNOW whether there is a starter; a first cause or an unmoved mover or a immortal being.


And please brother; stop quoting Newton's law. I try as much as possible nowadays to not drag science into this ruckus.

ValentineMary:

And this was the wisdom that made him say that bats are birds, that we should kill stubborn kids, that we should kill unbelievers I guess u have a different definition for wisdom.

Science does not claim to be sure, that's why we still do research. But religion tells us that they are sure their creation story is right. Muslims think they are right, xtians think they are right, Hindus think they are right. But science does not claim to be right and we are the ones speculating abi


What if u die and discover that Omenra is the true God what would be ur fate? u can't just pick one of the 5,000 Gods and ask what if am wrong.


The same way a muslim would say accept Muhammed or be doomed. Why should I believe u over them?



All the Gods humans worship all claim to be living Gods. Why do u think ur own is special
Only a bigger fool would believe that day and night came before the Sun.

CoolUsername:


That's vacuum energy, bro. It occurs in empty space (nothing).

EyeHateGod:

They was no force to start with go and sit down! Av Already debunked Ur nonsense logic

Lennycool:

well put. What makes the christian God different from the thousands out there? The only thing that favors Christianities God is it's large follower base and even these are widely divided. It's a model example of argumentum ad populum.

shadeyinka:


This is just a statement from you with no proof.

If there is no force explain the newtons second law before and after the big bang?.QED!

EyeHateGod:

What do U think energy is?

promise10:

That's how they are being indoctrinated by LYING scientists, who can FAKE UP an ideology, receives an award for the FAKED UP ideology, only to be MERCILESSLY DEBUNKED when they die. This is SOOO absurd!

CoolUsername:


It's not a thing, is it?

Lennycool:

See the contradictory statements you theist make, you reiterate that nothing can come out of nothing, yet you believe God came out of nothing because he is eternal. Is that logic?

EyeHateGod:

They was no force to start with go and sit down! Av Already debunked Ur nonsense logic

promise10:

See foolishness, what exactly did you debunk?

shadeyinka:

What is so difficult in acknowledging the Probability of God/gods existence?


I admire your Faith in Science: Why? You staked your eternity over an incomplete knowledge!
You are strong indeed.
I may be weak but not obstinate!