Muafrika2:

When money starts managing itself

I saw somewhere he's got many hotels, including the grand regency

I thought Grand Regency was sold to some Libyan company and became Laico Regency?

mtis:

We did that ages ago

Arghhh! 1.92 TBTs? Nigga,each of our 3 cables is at least twice that. It was posted last year.

TayserMahiri:


I'm laughing at this because I cant cry wenedem That statement alone justifies the clamour for change in Ethiopia.

Now I'm fully confident you understand our pain. Ethiopia is a land where watching video via is luxurious.
I know the songs I shared to genieluv and others here, but I never in my life have watched it from internet. When you guys say, "oh I like how he dance", I only imagine in my brain while you guys are repeating the video online. If you have known Amhargn, I would have perfectly expressed every single suffering in details to you. Al most everything connected to internet here is pain, pain.....pain.

TayserMahiri:
So whats the plan? A civil war, coup, civil disorder or how do those guys plan to remove TPLF? I know Oromo will support them. Will you join?

wenedem TayserMahiri, the primary plane is to suffer every second of our life and die. This is what we planned in our board meeting.
Now I'm serious. Al most all the political parties are disorganized and have no serious principles, so it's very difficult to support not only TPLF led EPRDF, but also all the parties. Until a serious political party come, it's very difficult to take power from TPLF peacefully. In force, their are already an armed struggle like I told you previously. Since a military struggle will destruct most of the little infrastructures of Ethiopia, it's very difficult to pursue this direction. But if there is no choice, then wenedem see me on TV holding gun.

TayserMahiri:
Lastly, is there no risk (from govt) to you for sharing those videos to us?

I don't think they have the luxury to spy every Ethiopians phone minute by minute internet activities. Even if they found it and came to me, I don't care, I don't care. TPLF has destroyed my family life previously(seriously). The only thing I knew from age 9 is pain, so me and my family have been continuously punished by pain again and again and now they can come and finish me once and for all.

TayserMahiri:


I thought Grand Regency was sold to some Libyan company and became Laico Regency?

Maybe. You never know these things.

Was that after surrender to the government?

http://fortune.com/2015/01/22/the-new-world-of-business/

Forget BRICS here are global Emerging markets of the future

Muafrika2:

Maybe. You never know these things.

Was that after surrender to the government?

Yea, after Kamlesh Pattni handed it over to the government. That corrupt guy though, where is he nowadays?

Eko Atlantic, The dubai of africa.

TayserMahiri:


Yea, after Kamlesh Pattni handed it over to the government. That corrupt guy though, where is he nowadays?

I don't know if he's still a pastor. Or politician. Its true, he's missing in action.

Hati13:


Now I'm fully confident you understand our pain. Ethiopia is a land where watching video via is luxurious.
I know the songs I shared to genieluv and others here, but I never in my life have watched it from internet. When you guys say, "oh I like how he dance", I only imagine in my brain while you guys are repeating the video online. If you have known Amhargn, I would have perfectly expressed every single suffering in details to you. Al most everything connected to internet here is pain, pain.....pain.


wenedem TayserMahiri, the primary plane is to suffer every second of our life and die. This is what we planned in our board meeting.
Now I'm serious. Al most all the political parties are disorganized and have no serious principles, so it's very difficult to support not only TPLF led EPRDF, but also all the parties. Until a serious political party come, it's very difficult to take power from TPLF peacefully. In force, their are already an armed struggle like I told you previously. Since a military struggle will destruct most of the little infrastructures of Ethiopia, it's very difficult to pursue this direction. But if there is no choice, then wenedem see me on TV holding gun.


I don't think they have the luxury to spy every Ethiopians phone minute by minute internet activities. Even if they found it and came to me, I don't care, I don't care. TPLF has destroyed my family life previously(seriously). The only thing I knew from age 9 is pain, so me and my family have been continuously punished by pain again and again and now they can come and finish me once and for all.

hehe bro, I feel like kicking those TPLF bastards together with your people. Seriously! Were you seriously in a board meeting? Those guys might come for you. How about taking power in the next election? How about that? The thing might get very ugly

Fidha254:
http://fortune.com/2015/01/22/the-new-world-of-business/

Forget BRICS here are global Emerging markets of the future

Huhh, Kenya is not part of the MINTS Bro,

MINTS: Malaysia, Indonesia, Nigeria , Turkey, South korea.

ednited:


@Hati13

imagine what our govt would do, if they read all we have said on NL?

They would whip our *** to prison

ehet Ednited, they can either throw us in prison or butcher us in front of our family. We poor Ethiopians know nothing but suffering, so they can do whatever they want to our life and body. Don't you agree?

Let's say they come to my house and opened my room. Everything I will see will be Federal polices or Agazi military Soldiers holding gun and what do they see is one poor, innocent and suffering Ethiopian. I have no power or gun, so they can take executive decision against me like they want.

Eko Atlantic the dubai of Africa.

[quote author=Hati13 post=57896850]
Sad, but it's still better than most African countries may have in the future. Is Bafari going to be the winner compared to the other 4 if it will happen?[/quoteits be honest bro, its hard to tell. Each region has both their strengths and weakness. I believe the leadership of the respective nations will determine how much progress they make. In the absence of good leadership, natural resources will have no bearing.

Btw, I represent Oduduwa. Lol

TayserMahiri:



If you go missing for a few weeks we shall know you are in prison

Muafrika2:

They're EVERYWHERE

Don't be surprised to find that even Uzzy our baby here is gone,

Gone to where?

kikuyu1:


Calm your tittays,dude! For real not everyone appreciates the LGBTQ love Noah and his gang always throw around. Fyi,in Africa we DON'T play that contrary to what you did down South.

HA!! Where is the correlation between LGBTQ (whatever the füçk that is) and Satire? You are saying some random nonsense that you don't even understand.

Trying too hard to be hard-core African?? LOL.GTFOH with that bull****

mtis:

Serious ednite an hati13 you guys need to be careful..have heard stories about your country men

I'm ready to show a poor, crying and suffering face and as I predicted will be raped, raped.......and raped until I'm out off service.

The Next BRICS.


In 2001 the world began talking about the Bric countries - Brazil, Russia, India and China - as potential powerhouses of the world economy. The term was coined by economist Jim O'Neill, who has now identified the "Mint" countries - Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey - as emerging economic giants. Here he explains why.
So what is it about the so-called Mint countries that makes them so special? Why these four countries?

A friend who has followed the Bric story noted sardonically that they are probably "fresher" than the Brics. What they really share beyond having a lot of people, is that at least for the next 20 years, they have really good "inner" demographics - they are all going to see a rise in the number of people eligible to work relative to those not working.
This is the envy of many developed countries but also two of the Bric countries, China and Russia. So, if Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey get their act together, some of them could match Chinese-style double-digit rates between 2003 and 2008.

Something else three of them share, which Mexican Foreign Minister Jose Antonio Meade Kuribrena pointed out to me, is that they all have geographical positions that should be an advantage as patterns of world trade change.

For example, Mexico is next door to the US, but also Latin America. Indonesia is in the heart of South-east Asia but also has deep connections with China.

And as we all know, Turkey is in both the West and East. Nigeria is not really similar in this regard for now, partly because of Africa's lack of development, but it could be in the future if African countries stop fighting and trade with each other.

This might in fact be the basis for the Mint countries developing their own economic-political club just as the Bric countries did - one of the biggest surprises of the whole Bric thing for me. I can smell the possibility of a Mint club already.

What I also realised after talking to Meade Kuribrena, is that the creation of the Mint acronym could spur pressure for Nigeria to become a member of the G20, as the other Mints already are.

This was something the charismatic Nigerian finance minister, Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala was keen to talk about: "We know our time will come," she said. "We think they are missing something by not having us."

Meade Kuribrena went so far as to suggest that, as a group of four countries, the Mints have more in common than the Brics. I am not sure about that, but it is an interesting idea.

Economically three of them - Mexico, Indonesia and Nigeria - are commodity producers and only Turkey isn't. This contrasts with the Bric countries where two - Brazil and Russia - are commodity producers and the other two - China and India - aren't.

In terms of wealth, Mexico and Turkey are at about the same level, earning annually about $10,000 (£6,100) per head. This compares with $3,500 (£2,100) per head in Indonesia and $1,500 (£900) per head in Nigeria, which is on a par with India. They are a bit behind Russia - $14,000 (£8,500) per head - and Brazil on $11,300 (£6,800), but still a bit ahead of China - $6,000 (£3,600).

A big question that guided my thinking on visits to these countries for the BBC was - "How do these countries actually feel on the ground, compared to my own expectations and the general consensus of opinion?"

When expectations are low - as one might generally say about Nigeria for example (although not in recent years among specialist investors in Africa) - it is easier to be positively surprised.
But the opposite is also true - and this could be a problem for Mexico, which financial investors are really quite excited about.

I returned from my travels thinking it won't be so difficult for Nigeria and Turkey to positively surprise people, as many put far too much weight on the negative issues that are well-known - crime and corruption in Nigeria, for example, or heavy-handed government in Turkey.

Indonesia, I am less sure about. The country's challenges are as big as I thought and I didn't hear too many things that made me go "Wow" in terms of trying to deal with them. The country needs more of a sense of commercial purpose beyond commodities, and has to improve its infrastructure.

In Turkey, visits to white goods manufacturer Beko and Turkish Airlines, the world's fastest growing airline, definitely made me go "Wow", and in Nigeria, I was saying it all the time.

The creativity in that place is so easy to get enthused about, at least it was for me, and I returned full of excitement about different personal investments I might follow up on.

In Mexico I was all set to be disappointed, as expectations are so high, but the young president and his equally young colleagues are full of determination to change the place.

If you thought Maggie Thatcher stood for serious reforms, these guys make her seem like a kitten. They are reforming everything from education, energy and fiscal policy to the institution of government itself.

What about all the challenges and things that usually scare people? Well corruption is obviously one topic that all four would seem to share, and I had many interesting discussions about it in each country.

In Nigeria, Central Bank Governor Lamido Sanusi argued that corruption rarely prevents economic development - and that the growth of the economy, accompanied by improvements in education, will lead to better governance and greater transparency.

Such views are important to listen to, as an alternative to our often simplistic Western way of thinking. For many credible people in the Mint countries, corruption is a consequence of their weak past, not a cause of a weak future, and certainly not the number one challenge. It falls way down a list compared with the costs of energy and the breadth of its availability and, of course, infrastructure.
Sorting out energy policy was seen in both Mexico and Nigeria as a top priority and each country has launched a major initiatives this year, which if implemented, will accelerate growth rates significantly.

Here is an amazing statistic. About 170 million people in Nigeria share about the same amount of power that is used by about 1.5 million people in the UK. Almost every business has to generate its own power. The costs are enormous.

"Can you imagine, can you believe, that this country has been growing at 7% with no power, with zero power? It's a joke." says Africa's richest man, Aliko Dangote.

He's right. I reckon Nigeria could grow at 10-12% by sorting out this problem alone. That would double the size of its economy in six or seven years.
In Indonesia, the fourth largest country in the world, I would say leadership and infrastructure are the major challenges, though there are many more too. But challenges and opportunities sit side by side.

In one of Jakarta's slum areas, Pluit, the land is sinking by 20cm per year because of over-extraction of water, but property prices elsewhere in the city are rocketing.

I talked to a man building the country's first Ikea store, who reckons a third of greater Jakarta's population of 28 million (the third biggest conurbation in the world) would have sufficient disposable income to shop at his store. As he said: "We just know it's going to work."

In Turkey of course, its politics and the combination of a Muslim faith with some kind of desire to do things the Western way is a unique sort of challenge. Some might argue the same challenge exists for Indonesia but I returned thinking this was not the case. In Jakarta at least, the Western way of doing things seems to be generally accepted - in striking contrast with Turkey.

So can the Mints join the top 10 largest economies in the world, after the US, China, the rest of the Brics and maybe Japan?
I think so, though it may take 30 years.
I look forward to going back to each of them more regularly now I am helping to put them on the map, just as happened with the Bric countries 12 years ago.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-25548060

Shaytun:

Eko Atlantic, The dubai of africa.

MAKOKO...........the venice of Africa.

Isahalbash:


Gone to where?

The dark side

Fidha254
This are the Next BRIC, Stop living in a deluded world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINT_(economics)

shervydman:

MAKOKO...........the venice of Africa.

Muafrika2:

I don't know if he's still a pastor. Or politician. Its true, he's missing in action.

I miss him though. Did you follow his court proceedings? Guy was funny and very coccky sometimes. I hope he didnt run away to India

ednited:


@Hati13

imagine what our govt would do, if they read all we have said on NL?

They would whip our *** to prison

Hati13:

I'm ready to show a poor, crying and suffering face and as I predicted will be raped, raped.......and raped until I'm out off service.

Don't worry we will grant you both asylum.... and you swear allegiance to Nigeria.

Hati13:

ehet Ednited, they can either throw us in prison or butcher us in front of our family. We poor Ethiopians know nothing but suffering, so they can do whatever they want to our life and body. Don't you agree?

Let's say they come to my house and opened my room. Everything I will see will be Federal polices or Agazi military Soldiers holding gun and what do they see is one poor, innocent and suffering Ethiopian. I have no power or gun, so they can take executive decision against me like they want.

Wenedem, one poor, innocent, suffering Ethiopian surfing the internet is like terrorist to them

The Next Big Thing.



The former Goldman Sachs economist Jim O'Neill will forever be associated with the term BRIC, which he coined as an acronym for Brazil, Russia, India and China (now commonly bracketed with South Africa to make BRICS). The term caught on and has been common parlance for a decade now. And now O'Neill, though no longer with Goldman, has a new one: the MINT countries.

Mint? This term refers to Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey, and O'Neill's premise is that these will be the next economic powerhouses. They are bound by a few key themes: young populations, useful geographical placement, and (Turkey excepted) by being commodity producers.
Personally I have mixed feelings about the MINTs, and also think that any use of this idea as an investment theme ought to take into account just what's happened to the BRICS in recent years. But we'll come back to that.

First, the good news. Mexico and Nigeria have some of the best prospects in all emerging markets. Nigeria, in particular, is thought to be in an economic sweet spot and has gathered increasing attention from world investors over the last year. It is about to undergo a GDP re-basing - a reassessment of the country's GDP - and when that happens, it may well prove to be the biggest economy in Africa, bigger even than South Africa. Reniassance Capital, for example, estimates that Nigeria's economy was worth $405 billion in 2013, compared to $355 billion for South Africa. On top of that, Renaissance points out, it will become 20% of the MSCI

frontier index, is undergoing a period of reform with some considerable ability in the public sector (notably the finance minister and central bank governor), and even without reform has grown by 7% a year since 2000. There are considerable challenges, from corruption to theft of natural resources, but Nigeria is a high-population market of growing wealth and opportunity.

Mexico, too, is increasingly the Latin American market that investors like most. It is increasingly common for investors to say they like Mexico "because it isn't Brazil", and although that remark is naturally a bit flippant, there is some truth in it: whereas Brazilian companies have tended to be sluggish and mired in state policy, Mexico's benefit from market-friendly reforms and a sense of national momentum under President Enrique Pena Nieto, expected to attract steady increases in foreign investment.

The thing about Indonesia and Turkey, though, is that they are both the market darlings of about two years ago. Back then, Indonesia was much the most adored market in Asia by both debt and equity investors: a country that had made the successful transition from military dictatorship to democracy, and which had elected a stable and admired government; a very strong domestic demand story which insulated it from the global financial crisis; a young demographic; and plentiful supplies of coal at a time when China's need for fuel had never been greater. But several things have since gone wrong. The fiscal picture has been damaged by twin deficits, the currency has fallen, concerns have grown about foreign outflows from the country, there is an election coming in which President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono cannot stand again, commodity prices have fallen, and there has been disappointing progress in infrastructure development.

Then there's Turkey. In November, the IMF put out a report on Turkey saying that it "can only sustain high growth at the expense of growing external imbalances." It called for a mighty 250 basis point rate hike in the key policy rate, one of the most aggressive IMF reports in memory. Turkey's inflation rate is close to 8%, and it also faces deficit problems and a weakening currency. There are some who think there is a meltdown coming in Turkey, and while not everyone takes that view, it's worth quoting Renaissance again on the relative merits of these MINT economies: "We like Nigeria for the first quarter of 2014. We're not at all sure about Turkey."

One point O'Neill makes about these countries is their location: Indonesia as the heart of southeast Asia, Mexico benefiting from proximity to the USA, Turkey with its combination of eastern and western attributes, and Nigeria as the most bouyant illustration of a rising African continent. It's true that these locations do have a likely positive impact on trade.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/chriswright/2014/01/06/after-the-brics-the-mints-catchy-acronym-but-can-you-make-any-money-from-it/#51adfd5629a6

Muafrika2:

The dark side

He has fire to light d darkness

Shaytun:


Fidha254

This are the Next BRIC, Stop living in a deluded world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MINT_(economics)

nah, leave Fidha254..... I like the guy, I love development stories.
his own link is talking about some proposed new powerful countries including Kenya, it has nothing on MINT.

mtis:

Kenyan jails for political offenders is a child ply compared to Ethi..those guys have a way of making their opponents disappear... I think muafrica is just telling her to go slow on politick issues..

On the other hand ednite an hati13 are really good at promoting their country.I do envy them

wenedem mtis, me and Ednited from now on will not stop exposing TPLFs everywhere they go. We will never be tired of exposing them. How could we? WE just need to keep going and repeat what our fellow poor and suffering Ethiopians are doing, which is to try to remove the cancers, defend the poor and build it again.

The Next Eleven Countries.


The Next Eleven (known also by the
numeronym N-11 ) are the eleven countries –
Bangladesh , Egypt, Indonesia , Iran , Mexico ,
Nigeria , Pakistan , the Philippines , Turkey ,
South Korea and Vietnam – identified by
Goldman Sachs investment bank and economist Jim O'Neill in a research paper as having a high potential of becoming, along with the BRICS countries, among the world's largest economies in the 21st century.

The bank chose these states , all with promising outlooks for investment and future growth, on December 12, 2005.

At the end of 2011, the four most prominent countries in the Next Eleven, Mexico, Indonesia, Nigeria and Turkey (commonly referret to as MINT), made up 73 percent of all Next Eleven GDP. BRIC GDP was $13.5 trillion, MINT GDP comprising almost 30 percent of that: $3.9 trillion.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next_Eleven

TayserMahiri:


Hati seems to have disappeared hope he's safe from TPLF didn't know their jails are that bad

Actually I was being integrating by TPLFs and I narrowly escaped their executive decision by showing poor, crying and suffering face.

genieluv:


Holly the fulanis are believed to be a product of intermixure of ancient west african tribes and berbers, just like the Touaregs, however their black west african genes dominate n they speak a Black west african language unlike the Touaregs with a dominantly berber ancestry, culture n even language.

**** The fulanis can probably be likened to you Habeshas who are a mix between cushitic black africans n immigrant semitic middle-easterners. Except that in the fulani case the black african genes, origin n language dominate n the berbers who form their other ancestry are also 100% africans n not middle-easterners (asians).

Thanks for the perfect explanation.