Deep Sight:

Noetic100, can you genuinely claim to be objective?

noetic15:

of course . . , is there any reason to think contrary?

Tonye-t:


NO!, you were aborted there because the moderator took you as matured whereas your posts tends childish, always aggressive, insultive, rude, arrogant, childish and fill of emotions sensitivites

Deep Sight:

  1. What will happen to Mahatma Ghandi

  2. What will happen to the Dalai Lama

Note: Neither of them, outstanding in their moral rectitude, principled beliefs and dedication to peace believed(s) in Jesus. Tell me if you consider them headed for hell, on accoubt of - "I am the way, the truth and the life. . ."

Your answers should clarify whether you areobjective or not.

Deep Sight:

There we go. Your Objectivity Certificate has just been officially and permanently withdrawn.

I recall very clearly that the Jewish Carpenter who you worship as God stated when asked about salvation - that men need observe only two laws - love of God and love of fellow man.

How do you interprete that?

Was Abraham a Christian? Elijah? Moses?

Yes. . . ?

Tudór:

Have you ever been in the islam for muslims section? Are/were you a regular poster once there before?

Learn objectivity and stop displaying pathetic ignorance at every opportunity.

Ok i see why mr.objectivity's post couldnt pass even the smallest of a section, even a KINDERGARTEN section will abort your posts, because it sucks! going from sections and boards to shit ignorance are taggs for kids you know, and to noetic15 there aint no reason y i cant put up with an atheist but not with a NAPKIN-ATHEIST

noetic15:


3. what does it mean to be a Christian? it simply means to live a life of Christ. . . . .
did Abraham, Elijah and Moses know Christ? . . . . . NO. . . . . . as such they were never Christians.
But the bible states that at death Jesus went to hades to preach the Gospel and all those who had died in the Lord were resurrected. It is as such safe to state that Moses, Abraham and Elijah are in eternity with Christ.

Deep Sight:

Are you forgetting that Elijah did not die or go to the grave but was presumably taken up in a Chariot of Fire into Heaven?

So Christ could not have preached to him in Hades.

Note that ever before christ died on the Cross, ELIJAH is said to be in heaven already.

So if Elijah did not need Christ's death to get the heaven, why should Mahatma Ghandi? Or the Dalai Lama?

noetic15:

well stated.

Cos Elijah lived before the promise of eternity. If Ghandi and Dalai Lama were traveling to the US, would they not require a visa? why should they be allowed in, when they are fully aware of US immigration laws? . . .  . they knew about the promise of salvation through Jesus, but chose not to acknowledge it. . .why then should they inherit the promise?

Tonye-t:

Ok i see why mr.objectivity's post couldnt pass even the smallest of a section, even a KINDERGARTEN section will abort your posts, because it sucks! going from sections and boards to shit ignorance are taggs for kids you know, and to noetic15 there aint no reason y i cant put up with an atheist but not with a NAPKIN-ATHEIST

Deep Sight:

I recall very clearly that the Jewish Carpenter who you worship as God stated when asked about salvation - that men need observe only two laws - love of God and love of fellow man.

How do you interprete that?

Was Abraham a Christian? Elijah? Moses?

Yes. . . ?

bawomolo:

One critical issue is why there is a separate muslim board from the religion section?

That issue has to be addressed. Those muslims flood the religion section while we are supposed to give them a private spot to chill?

noetic15:

of course . . , is there any reason to think contrary?

Deep Sight:

Bawolomo - that woman on your profile is scandolously attractive. The high heels in particular.

BY THE AUTHOURITY AND POWERS DONATED TO ME BY THE INFALLIBLE POPE I HEREWITH DEEM HER CONFISCATED.

YOU MUST UNCONDITIONALLY SURRENDER HER TO ME LATEST MIDNIGHT TONITE OR BE SUMMARILY GARROTTED AS A HERETIC.

You are warned.

she looks evil wicked like you

bawomolo:

ewo. what [size=14pt]God[/size] has put together no deep sight shall put assunder 

Purist:

@noetic15

No, you can't claim to be objective. . . and yes, there IS a reason to think contrary.

The reason is this - Religion is faith-based, and since faith in itself is irrational, it is safe to conclude that no religious person can be objective when it comes to matters of their faith.  You only believe what you believe because it is what you've always heard, read or felt is right, and based on some other factors best known to you, you tend to take it as the sole truth.  Now, if you can take just one moment to step out of your religious beliefs, which I know is quite a difficult thing to do, you'd realise that your supposition on Mahatma Ghandi and Dalai Lama is FAR from being objective.  As a Christian, you have every reason to believe they're both hell-bound because that is what your religion teaches, and you believe it to be the truth.  But in reality, you're not being objective, because your own belief system is not the only one that exists. . . but then of course, you don't care because you ardently believe yours to be the only right one.

Objectivity is looking at things strictly as they are without bias. But when you begin to present arguments based solely on your own belief system, regardless of any other, then you're being biased, and so you can't claim to be objective.  I hope you get my point.

noetic15:

On the contrary, your post simply supports the fact that I am an objective person.
1. Heaven is the creation and home of Jesus. . . Jesus is also the ONLY onw who ever promised anyone a place in heaven. The same Jesus clearly stated rules with regards to admission into heaven. I think it is objective to state that Dalai Lama and Ghandi should not be bothered about heaven since they do not believe in it. . . . . but if they bothered about heaven as promised by Jesus. . . then one can objectively state that they are both candidates of hell. . . . .this is no dogma, its as simple as the rules with regards to admission into heaven.
If the subject was allah's paradise, then all one has to do is to be a terrorist and kill in the name of allah. . . . . . that way he gets to paradise. There is no dogma about it. . . .allah has stated his rules for his sexual infested paradise.

2. I have heard people say that theists cannot be objective, just like u have also asserted. I disagree simply because, I have NEVER been asked any question about xtinaity which I waived away on the premise of dogma. . .I have always given logical, objective and intellectual potent answers which always support my notion that xtianity is logical in all ramifications.

3. Faith in God is NOT irrational, contrary to your claim.

In the bible, all those who had faith in God were STRENGTHENED before their request was granted. what do u think it means to be strengthened?

4. According to your definition of objectivity. . .I believe that I am qualified in this context. The unbiased view is that anyone who does not meet the criteria of heaven does NOT make heaven and that includes Dalai Lama and Ghandi.

noetic15:


2. I have heard people say that theists cannot be objective, just like u have also asserted. I disagree simply because, I have NEVER been asked any question about xtinaity which I waived away on the premise of dogma. . .I have always given logical, objective and intellectual potent answers which always support my notion that xtianity is logical in all ramifications.

KunleOshob:

The above post as just proven that you certainly have no clue what it means to be objective.

noetic15:

On the contrary, your post simply supports the fact that I am an objective person.

noetic15:

1. Heaven is the creation and home of Jesus. . .

noetic15:

3. Faith in God is NOT irrational, contrary to your claim.

In the bible, all those who had faith in God were STRENGTHENED before their request was granted. what do u think it means to be strengthened?