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Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:38pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
AideeSheks: Brother, why don't you start learning Arabic? In an institution formally... 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 5:38pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: It's something I've put some consideration into and hopefully intend to. How exactly do you mean a formal institution? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 5:58pm On Sep 20, 2016 |
AideeSheks: As in, classroom thing..... Learning with a teacher right next to you. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 6:49am On Sep 21, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Alright. Where would you suggest? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 6:56am On Sep 21, 2016 |
AideeSheks: Since i dont know where you stay, ask people in your area, but make sure they(the madrasa) are upon the sunnah, you might say its just Arabic, yes its just Arabic but learn from people of sunnah. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 10:13am On Sep 21, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:Okay. Will make inquiries. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 10:42am On Sep 26, 2016 |
I think its time to put the rules of hamza wasl [size=16pt]ٱ[/size], at times it is joined with the preceding letter as in و ٱبن pronounced as wabnu at times it comes as the first letter and this is the main thing i wanna talk about Hamza wasl will be assigned with a dammah, if the 3rd letter of the verb carries a dammah, as in ٱدعُوا ربكم this is pronounced as ud'oo rabbakum because the third letter carried a dammah so the hamza wasl will be given a "u" sound, but Hamza wasl will be assigned with a kasrah, if the 3rd letter of the verb carries a fathah or kasrah as in ٱشتَروا بٔايٰت الله pronounced as ishtarau bi aayatillaah because the 3rd letter carried fatha, also ٱهدِنا الصرٰط المستقيم pronounced as ihdinas siraatol mustaqeem, because it has a kasrah. But of course every rule has an exception, the following words are the only verbs in the Qur'an where the 3rd letter carries a dammah but a kasrah is assigned to the hamza wasl: [size=17pt] ٱﻣﻀﻮا ٱﻣﺸﻮا ٱﺑﻨﻮا ٱﻗﻀﻮا ٱﺋْﺘُﻮا [/size] Salaam. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:07pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
WHEN ALIF WA LAM ال COMES AFTER TANWEEN. Sorry that the rules are coming in bits, thats because i cant remember all the rules at once, i remember only when i come across them while reading the Qur'an, so in the process of reading this morning i found a rule which we've not discussed, have you ever came across this in the Qur'an? إِلَىٰ رَبِّكَ يَوْمَئِذٍ ٱلْمُسْتَقَرُّ Its in Surah al-Qiyama, how do we read the kasratain that comes before ال ? Are we to apply the rule of izhaar aw iqlaab aw idgaam aw ikhfaa ? Well none of these rules will work because hamza wasl is not a letter of any of the aforementioned. Here is how you read it; Ilaa robbika yawma idhi[size=16pt]nil[/size] mustaqar. *Modified* I just gave the reading i didn't give the general rule, the rule is WHENEVER HAMZA WASL COMES AFTER A TANWEEN, YOU CHANGE THE VOWELESS NUN SOUND IN THE TANWEEN TO KASRAH Thats why yamwa idhin almustaqar changed to yawma idhi[size=17pt]nil[/size] mustaqar. The same way نوحٌ ٱبنه will be read as noohu[size=17pt]nib[/size] nah That will be all for now, Salaam. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:11pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
^^ And yes! You don't have to worry about nun sakinah examples, because the Quran is written in enhanced Arabic, so instead of "min al-muslimeen" in the origin writing, in the Quran it is made easier and written as "minal muslimeen" so dont worry about examples of "nun sakinah" |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:16pm On Sep 28, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: There is a modification. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 4:59pm On Sep 29, 2016 |
Jazakallahu khairan brother. Even though I'm still behind in the rules. As you advised earlier, trying not to rush with each rule so I'm taking my time with every one. I'm presently on the nun sakinah and tanween rules. I understand and can identify most of them, still only the ikhfaa that I'm struggling a bit with (At times, I mistakenly pronounce the ghunnah in full). 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 2:57am On Sep 30, 2016 |
AideeSheks: Oh! Yes dont rush, i am just putting them up so you dont need to ask when the time comes....may Allaah make it easy for you...and its nice you now know what ghunnah is, just keep striving...The prophet said “The one who is proficient in the recitation of the Qur’an will be with the honourable and obedient scribes (angels) and he who recites the Qur’an and finds it difficult to recite, doing his best to recite it in the best way possible, will have a double reward.” So either way you will be happy in the hereafter if you read the Quran, the thing is, just be frequent in reading it for if you abandon it, it will abandon you like the camel abandons his owner that you search and search for it, I'm talking from experience. 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 2:55pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Alhamdulillahi i stumbled upon this thread. Jazakumullahu khayran brother lexiconkabir. I also just started a tajweed class 2 days ago (evening school for illiterate mamas like us ). Having had no formal Arabic education, all I always depend on is recitations. However, there's nothing compared to having someone break down each letter and pronounciations. Can you imagine the entire first session was just to learn "Audzubilllahi minashaytani rrajeem" At my first recital, I was feeling like one kain G, only for my tutor to point out about 8 errors I've made on just that phrase . Alhamdulillah I'm improving. lexiconkabir: @bolded Now I get it. I've often wondered why reciters like Sudais ususlly goes a few words back whenever he's on a long Ayah. Jazakumullah Khayran 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 3:07pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: That's the best way to learn arabic. I was solely depending on reciters like Sudais and Husary, while simultaneously reading the Quran. But the best way to get the words right is to sit face to face with your ustaz and watch how their lips move. Constantly repeating the words alongside the reciter makes it easier as well. We treated Suratul-Nnas yesterday, chai!!! . All I can say is astaghfirullahi for years of mispronounciation. Allahu alam. 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:15pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
k4kenny: Jazakallahu Khiran for sharing your story. I find it motivating. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 6:56pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
k4kenny: Actually if you understand the meaning of what you are saying, you can even pick up right from where you stopped the aayah, reciters like sudais do this alot, for example in the Qur'an we have; مَثَلِ الشَّيْطَانِ إِذْ قَالَ لِلْإِنسَانِ اكْفُرْ If i say "mathalish shaytaan" and stop then start from "idh qaala lil insaanikfur" i would be correct without going two words back(its just an example), because it makes sense that way since it gives the real meaning intended just as how it does when read without breaking it. But for non Arabic speakers, it's safer to go two or three words back. |
Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 7:21pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
Contact17: Ameen wa yaki. I'm glad to know my story is motivating. I'm a great admirer of your threads. Very educational. May Allah (swt) continue to strengthen our imaan. 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 7:38pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Ok. How will I be sure that I'm making sense after going 2 or 3 words back as I don't understand Arabic. For instance in suratul Qadr Tanazzalu'l malaaaikatul wa'l ruuhu feeha bihidzni rabbihim mmin kulli amr One reciter (Sudais, I think) does read the ayah in one breath, he goes back to 'bihidzni rabbihim.... My question is how does a learner like me know that's the right word to skip back to. Hope you understand? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 7:58pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
k4kenny: He did that cuz he understands what he is saying, but if you don't understand Arabic, just pick two or three words from behind(but to me two words is fine), that's the consensus, with time, youll know how to pick up verses even without thinking just like driving where you are always concious while learning but when you've mastered it, you drive without thinking. So as a learner don't worry about that, just pick two words or three, A quick motivation: The prophet said “The one who is proficient in the recitation of the Qur’an will be with the honourable and obedient scribes (angels) and he who recites the Qur’an and finds it difficult to recite, doing his best to recite it in the best way possible, will have a double reward.” So either way you will be happy in the hereafter if you read the Quran, the thing is, just be frequent in reading it for if you abandon it, it will abandon you like the camel abandons his owner that you search and search for it, I'm talking from experience confirming the words of the prophet. 2 Likes |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 8:39pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
k4kenny: Apart from end of Aya, there are certain places that have comas(,) and full stop in the Quran. So you can also stop at those points. For places without that, my brother has explain it to you. If you want to learn those stoping places and tajweed, listen to reciters like AL-Manshawi, Khalil Khusari and thier likes NOT Sudais, Shureem Maheer etc. Those you heard from them are Prayer (Namaz) recitation. They may be quicker in their recitation |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 8:50pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
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Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 9:41pm On Oct 02, 2016 |
FriendChoice: Jazakumulla khayran. You're right. Sudais recites really fast, I find it difficult to keep up. Khusary has made hifz really easy for me. It's tajweed I'm trying to focus on right now. lexiconkabir: Alright then. Thanks for the encouragement. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 8:59am On Oct 09, 2016 |
Asalam alaykum I came across something this morning which I'd like to ask about. In verse 27 of surat al-qiyama, there is a sign after "waqeela man" (a letter ﺱ right above). Even though it appears like a stop sign to me, I'm not sure because it isn't part of any of the ones I learnt earlier. In Husary's recitation, he paused at that point but I need to know principle behind this. So, what exactly is that symbol and how is it used? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 10:17am On Oct 09, 2016 |
AideeSheks: Wa alaykum salaam, Its actually a stop sign it means to take a soft/short pause without taking a breath. its rare to see that's why i probably forgot to add it in my op, listen to a reciter to see how this pause is made. Also you would at times see a س above a ص, That means you pronounce the latter as س instead of ص but if it is under the ص than pronounce it as a ص(it's original pronunciation). 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 11:18am On Oct 09, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Jazakallahu khairan. This was really helpful. I'll try to see if I can come across some examples of those symbols you've mentioned. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 11:20am On Oct 09, 2016 |
AideeSheks: Wa ant BTW brother, do you still take lessons from yasir Qadhi? If yes what kind of lessons? |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 12:05pm On Oct 09, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Just basically this same tajweed we're discussing here. There's a video series he made on tajweed that I found on YouTube. I occasionally watch that and try to relate it with what I'm learning here, the app and other places. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 3:46pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Currently trying to get familiarized with how to properly time the harakahs. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 5:52pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
^^ It all takes practice brother, may Allaah make it easy for you |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 9:42pm On Oct 12, 2016 |
Ameen |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:54pm On Oct 19, 2016 |
Ismu jalala This part deals with how Allaah's(azza wa jal) name is pronounced when found in the Qur'an, hence the title. When you a fatha or a dammah comes before the name Allaah, you pronounce Allaah with a "O-shaped" mouth, for example "قل هوَ ٱللّه أحد" will be pronounced as "Qul huwalloohu ahad" and "نصرُ ٱللّه وٱلفتح" will be pronounced as "nasrulloohi wal fath" but if it is kasra that comes before the name of Allaah, you pronounce the name with a "carpet-shaped" mouth, example is "فى دينِ ٱللّه أفواخًا" pronounced as "fi deenillaahi afwaaja"... Salaam alaykum k4kenny, how far have you gone with your tajweed class? 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by k4kenny(f): 12:48pm On Oct 20, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Wa alaykum salam, It's progressing, Alhamdulillah. It's getting easier with each class. The app I downloaded has also been really useful, even my Ustazah has downloaded it too . We just concluded Suratul Kafiruun. We treated your above point some weeks ago 1 Like 2 Shares |
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