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Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:25pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
snapscore: when you listen to the recitation, i will need feedback. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:30pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Okay. Will get back to you in sha Allah |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:37pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
snapscore: ok.. |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 11:10pm On Dec 28, 2016 |
Jazakallaahu khairan op I have an observation tho, about husari I chose him as my mentor and have gotten used to him. Though I'm not into the tajweed rules yet just memorization So I listen to minshari one day and noticed differences in the recitation compared to husari. So I listen to other reciters in other to clear my doubt I observe the ff 1.husari doesn't elongate some words like كَلَّآ إِنَّهَا تَذْكِرَة, (he would just say Kala, unlike minshari, kalaaaa) for instance the yaaaa in suratul muzzammil 2.husari doesn't pronounce خ very well sometimes, should I also ignore cos I learn from him I'm not trying to say I know more than him but please correct me if I'm wrong. And I want to know if I'm on the right source concerning memorization. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:50am On Dec 29, 2016 |
zarinaAin: na'am, we have three types of recitations(actually the speed). 1.) tahqeeq(slow) 2.) tadweer(medium) 3.) hadr(fast) in tahqeeq, the reciters when reading apply all the madd that are not voluntary without cutting at all, and often very slow, you have opportunity to ponder, while tadweer, you are not too slow and you cut the madd that are not voluntary to like 4 harakaat, husary falls in this category, and the last(hadr), the madd that are not voluntary are drawn to just the normal 2, sudais falls in this category, all of these recitations are correct, because as you learn any of the three speeds, you learn with tajweed, personally i fall in the third category, but at times use the second. emm that كلّآ, he just said kalla and paused, before saying innaha tadhkira right? or he read kalla innaha tadhkira at a go? (there is a reason for asking). 2.husari doesn't pronounce خ very well sometimes, should I also ignore cos I learn from him can you mention a specific ayah? I'm not trying to say I know more than him but please correct me if I'm wrong. And I want to know if I'm on the right source concerning memorization. I'll assume you are memorizing all by yourself, based on this assumption, i'll say that, you learn tajweed to some extent, perfect that little you know, before memorising, when you get to a part where you are not sure of how it should be read, then listen to a reciter, because it wont be nice if you memorized without using tajweed, reading with tajweed is a commandment from Allaah eri wa o (there is proof) no one will want to disobey Allaah knowingly. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:54am On Dec 29, 2016 |
There is so much to learn. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:03am On Dec 29, 2016 |
snapscore: yeah, we have a lot to learn, this is why, learning about the deen never ends, you learn about the deen till death, fields are much, and each field is wide. which of the speeds do you wish to learn? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:17am On Dec 29, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: I am not even sure. I am not sure if I should just memorize the Qur'an with Tajweed or I should keep trying to learn the Tajweed rules independently because that would enable me read the Qur'an on my own. Uni is starting soon. So I will really need to manage my time. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:21am On Dec 29, 2016 |
snapscore: learn tajweed and memorize hand in hand, using reciters as aid. because tajweed is a wide field which you can learn for decades. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:23am On Dec 29, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Didn't know that. We'll see how it goes |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 4:28am On Dec 29, 2016 |
snapscore: yeah you'll learn it to the extent that, you read the Qur'an without diacritics(i mean the fatha, kasrah, dhammah), without signs that shows that you should stop, or signs that shows that you should elongate compulsorily, and so on. it takes someone who has mastered tajweed perfectly (i mean very perfectly, coupled with sarf and nahw) to read such a mushaf. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 5:34am On Dec 29, 2016 |
i forgot to mention reciters for each speeds should in case you want to learn a particular speed. for tahqeeq - huthayfi for tadweer - husary for hadr - sudais or shuraim or muhaysini its good to know all speeds, to do that learn the first(tahqeeq, this is the one the prophet sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam read), once you know the first, the other two won't be difficult at all. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 5:51am On Dec 29, 2016 |
shaykh Ali Abdurrahman al-huthayfi correcting mistakes of students in suratul faatiha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxHRT--PfZw 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 8:43am On Dec 29, 2016 |
How did you highlight my text and addressing it one after the other |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 8:55am On Dec 29, 2016 |
zarinaAin: highlight the text you want to comment on then click on the button before this smiley " ", then this will appear [quote][/quote] and the text you highlighted will be in between that, then comment, do the same for the remaining texts, gorrit? |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 9:33am On Dec 29, 2016 |
Jazakallahu Khyran @ lexiconkabir |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 9:37am On Dec 29, 2016 |
snapscore:wa anti 1 Like |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:47pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
lexiconkabir:[quote][/quote] |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:50pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
[quote author=lexiconkabir post=52346534] na'am, we have three types of recitations(actually the speed). 1.) tahqeeq(slow) 2.) tadweer(medium) 3.) hadr(fast) in tahqeeq, the reciters when reading apply all the madd that are not voluntary without cutting at all, and often very slow, you have opportunity to ponder, while tadweer, you are not too slow and you cut the madd that are not voluntary to like 4 harakaat, husary falls in this category, and the last(hadr), the madd that are not voluntary are drawn to just the normal 2, sudais falls in this category, all of these recitations are correct, because as you learn any of the three speeds, you learn with tajweed, personally i fall in the third category, but at times use the second. emm that كلّآ, he just said kalla and paused, before saying innaha tadhkira right? or he read kalla innaha tadhkira at a go? (there is a reason for asking). The Kala was like one beat, no break btw the next word I don't have access to madrasa. So a a Quran hifiz advised me to listen to reciters and imitate him as a best as I can I once through learning the tajweed rules on my own. I have books and pdfs. But whenever I recite in front of an ustadh, we start all over again That's why I decided to memorize. When I eventually get a teacher,, insha Allah I will get it The hadith that says we would be graded according to where you memorized the Quran, does it implies that to knowing the tajweed rules |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:57pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: I didn't get it at all. Even I made a lot of mistakes and lost all the things I wrote in the process. I will just stick to the old ways. Jazakallaahu khairan |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 10:47pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
zarinaAin: Alright, you are really trying, WAllaahi, it must have been very challenging imitating someone without knowing why he said this or that in a particular way, may Allaah grant you lots of reward fot it Ameen, I really love it when women try to learn our deen, because they are the closest to the children, so they can help in teaching. I would like to ask, from what sura did you start the memorization and how far have you gone? I once through learning the tajweed rules on my own. I have books and pdfs. But whenever I recite in front of an ustadh, we start all over again if it works for you, you go on with it, Allaah will put blessing in it, just make sure you access the madrasah when you get the opportunity. The hadith that says we would be graded according to where you memorized the Quran, does it implies that to knowing the tajweed rules I am assuming you are asking for the proof regarding what i said, Allaah azza wa jal says; وَرَتِّلِ الْقُرْآنَ تَرْتِيلًا and recite the Quran as it ought to be recited(yani in the exact way Allaah revealed it, Allaah revealed it with tajweed). |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 10:48pm On Dec 29, 2016 |
zarinaAin: sorry i suck in making explanations by typing. sorry for the stress that might have caused you... wa anti fajazakillaah khayran katheerah. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 3:40am On Dec 30, 2016 |
Salam alaykum sister zarinaain We are both in this together. I am really impressed by how far you've come. I mean you are able to notice differences in recitations. I just thought everyone had a different way of reciting. Everything I am learning on this thread is completely new to me. I didn't know that Tajweed was compulsory. I've always thought if a person can read Arabic, then they can read the Qur'an. Even when I was memorizing, I didn't listen to a lot of recitations (I just read) and the people I listened to don't recite tahqeeq. I am completely amazed by how much I need to learn. |
Re: Tajweed by AideeSheks(m): 7:06am On Dec 30, 2016 |
^^^^^^^^^ All I can say is; May Allah make it easy for those of us really striving to learn. And honestly, it feels quite overwhelming to me at times when I realise the magnitude of the things yet to be learnt. I guess with time and continued persistence, it gets better. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 7:13am On Dec 30, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 7:16am On Dec 30, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: Twasnt your fault at all. This isn't the first time, I asked someone to nl to explain how to bold the text and I didn't get it also. Maybe it's me or the process is complicated |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:19am On Dec 30, 2016 |
lexiconkabir: I don't know what's my wrong, couldn't update my post. It's very long and to think of writing again. Posting on nl can be so stressful |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:20am On Dec 30, 2016 |
The first sura was suratul balad (when I started madrasa), now I'm done with juz amma. Memorized 5 sura in juz tabaraka, all with the help of husari(he is really getting a lot of reward, chai) أَوْ زِدْ عَلَيْهِ وَرَتِّلِ ٱلْقُرْءَانَ تَرْتِيلًا Or add to it & recite the Qur’an with measured recitation. I actually memorized this sura (muzzamil) from our as-sunnah madrasa. His recitation falls under the 1st category, loved his recitation & didn't bother to follow husari method whenever I want to recite the Surah, I used the ustadh instead |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 9:29am On Dec 30, 2016 |
zarinaAin: sorry about that, it happens, perhaps you've not gotten used to how the site should be operated. |
Re: Tajweed by Nobody: 9:32am On Dec 30, 2016 |
zarinaAin: that's impressive!! as-sunnah madrasah? the one at "SANRAB" Ilorin? |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:37am On Dec 30, 2016 |
The ustadh pronounce each word perfectly, the sisters almost bite their tongue. He told us to go and start afresh with the pronunciation of the letters. I wasn't happy when I left the area bcs opportunities like that are rare. My madrasa sisters have improved a lot on their recitation and knowledge. It's really hard learning without a teacher to correct you. There was a time I spent days on the materials on tajweed(noon sakin, iqlab, izhar) I have. So I went to a ta'alim & twas like I was starting afresh |
Re: Tajweed by zarinaAin: 9:39am On Dec 30, 2016 |
The ustadh pronounce each word perfectly, the sisters almost bite their tongue. He told us to go and start afresh with the pronunciation of the letters. I wasn't happy when I left the area bcs opportunities like that are rare. My madrasa sisters have improved a lot on their recitation and knowledge. It's really hard learning without a teacher to correct you. There was a time I spent days on the materials on tajweed(noon sakin, iqlab, izhar) I have. So I went to a ta'alim & twas like I was starting afresh |
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