Ujoan:


SMH!

What is it again, this woman..

Mindfulness:


My grandma would agree with you to some extent but she says women were stronger because they had enough flesh on their bones and didn't look as anorexic as we do today.

Let's not forget how many women died in the course or as a consequence of child birth and how many infants as well. And let's remember how old they looked in their 30s and how attractive some women today can be way past their 40s.

Lol, did they die due to pushing the baby out, or was it from complications afterwards due to poor medical care/attention?

The one who designed the human female anatomy sure knows that it can handle childbirth. I read somewhere that the pelvic bones can even move apart to give way, now that's some mean bio-engineering feat right there girl...totally outer-worldly.

The summary however is that women these days are just soft and I know you agree with this—so anyhow you choose to explain why y'all are soft, just to sleep better at night, is yo' darn bizniz.

Bros the pain we women go through during child birth you can,t begin to understand even if you are inside the labour.after my first child(labouring for almost two days before I finally landed in the theater) it wasn,t funny all couldn,t even talk anymore.my second was OK,my third another near death experience... Overall every woman with their own experience

crackhaus:

Lol, did they die due to pushing the baby out, or was it from complications afterwards due to poor medical care/attention?

The one who designed the human female anatomy sure knows that it can handle childbirth. I read somewhere that the pelvic bones can even move apart to give way, now that's some mean bio-engineering feat right there girl...totally outer-worldly.

The summary however is that women these days are just soft and I know you agree with this—so anyhow you choose to explain why y'all are soft, just to sleep better at night, is yo' darn bizniz.

You can eventually marry a woman who is like our grandmothers used to be back in the day.

I don't mind being called soft, pampered and spoiled.

Wouldn't change for nothing, not even you.

Mindfulness:



You can eventually marry a woman who is like our grandmothers used to be back in the day.

I don't mind being called soft, pampered and spoiled.

Wouldn't change for nothing, not even you.

You assume everytime I type something about women, I'm definitely implying It's a bad thing.

Nothing wrong in being pampered and soft na...lol. OWN IT!

crackhaus:

You assume everytime I type something about women, I'm definitely implying It's a bad thing.

Nothing wrong in being pampered and soft na...lol. OWN IT!

Stop acting innocent all of a sudden.

Mindfulness:


Stop acting innocent all of a sudden.

Lol, more like you need to stop acting like something is wrong with you cos you're soft...no?

crackhaus:

Lol, more like you need to stop acting like something is wrong with you cos you're soft...no?

I may be soft but not self-critical.

Mindfulness:


I may be soft but not self-critical.

It sure looked like you were being self-critical earlier when you went into auto-defensive just because I called women soft.

crackhaus:

It sure looked like you were being self-critical earlier when you went into auto-defensive just because I called women soft.

I just wanted your attention.

Mindfulness:


I just wanted your attention.

Lol, see yaself?

crackhaus:

Lol, see yaself?

Are you shy now?

Mindfulness:


Are you shy now?

Fascinated actually.

There are more direct ways to get my attention, but your pride won't let you.

shadeyinka:


Ask the ladies who are "wailers": Does wailing reduce the pain? Or does wailing make the pain more bearable?

I guess it does.I compare it to shouting in sports when you throw a hammer,a javelin or lift weights.

shadeyinka:
One of the most painful natural experience a human being go through is childbearing. Most men will respect there wives more if they stay with them during the their time of labour through childbirth.

My concern is just that when you visit our maternity ward especially during child delivery sessions, the kind of unholy cries, wail and curses that come out of most women is appalling. You will wonder where decency and self control ran off to.

When the average White woman is delivering a baby you will hardly hear a sound. I guess it is modernization because in the past at least I know that Yoruba women don't throw up noisy tantrums. Many of them five birth on their way from the farm, .

I actually coached my wife before our babies were born. Some of the lessons are:
1. You may not be able to do anything about the pain, but you can do something about how you react to the pain.
2. Instead of verbal tantrums grab something, squeeze something even if its your lips.
3. Breathing techniques to ventilate the blood so that you don't get tired on time.
4. Faith: it is well, you won't die! Several women have passed through the same situation 3-4 times, you are not alone.
5. Screaming and shouting WILL not reduce the pain.

My wife succeeded in this mission. Thrice, I have not been disappointed. I was in the delivery room with her during the delivery of our last baby. God is wonderful. Women are trying.

To the guys out there, don't leave your wife to face it all alone. You can give her moral and psychological pep up.

Ladies, Your Experience ?
It might help others

just imagine. do u realize some people die in d process of child birth? u have no idea how painful child birth is.

crackhaus:

What is it again, this woman..

If I talknah, they will ban me again for another month.

But just know that I've said all the things I want to say to you. . . . . In my mind

shadeyinka:
One of the most painful natural experience a human being go through is childbearing. Most men will respect there wives more if they stay with them during the their time of labour through childbirth.

My concern is just that when you visit our maternity ward especially during child delivery sessions, the kind of unholy cries, wail and curses that come out of most women is appalling. You will wonder where decency and self control ran off to.

When the average White woman is delivering a baby you will hardly hear a sound. I guess it is modernization because in the past at least I know that Yoruba women don't throw up noisy tantrums. Many of them five birth on their way from the farm, .

I actually coached my wife before our babies were born. Some of the lessons are:
1. You may not be able to do anything about the pain, but you can do something about how you react to the pain.
2. Instead of verbal tantrums grab something, squeeze something even if its your lips.
3. Breathing techniques to ventilate the blood so that you don't get tired on time.
4. Faith: it is well, you won't die! Several women have passed through the same situation 3-4 times, you are not alone.
5. Screaming and shouting WILL not reduce the pain.

My wife succeeded in this mission. Thrice, I have not been disappointed. I was in the delivery room with her during the delivery of our last baby. God is wonderful. Women are trying.

Ladies, Your Experience ?
It might help others

This post is the most unbelievable post I've read in recent times.

You are not qualified to advice women on how to act during labour and you will never be qualified.

The Op knows nothing about pain.

I however know your type- that suddenly breaks into a sweat all over and starts feeling faint because they want to pass a needle in your arm to take blood for tests.

It's very easy to type and tell us how such a wonderful coach you were over your keyboard.

I personally cannot take you or your advice seriously until you tell me what kind of pain YOU have personally experienced otherwise.............

Mindfulness:


Are you shy now?

crackhaus:

Fascinated actually.

There are more direct ways to get my attention, but your pride won't let you.

Both of u get a room already.
Sheesh!

crackhaus:

Lol, did they die due to pushing the baby out, or was it from complications afterwards due to poor medical care/attention?

The one who designed the human female anatomy sure knows that it can handle childbirth. I read somewhere that the pelvic bones can even move apart to give way, now that's some mean bio-engineering feat right there girl...totally outer-worldly.

The summary however is that women these days are just soft and I know you agree with this—so anyhow you choose to explain why y'all are soft, just to sleep better at night, is yo' darn bizniz.

Our female ancestors did not have such privilege of topnotch natal care. There are lots of faults in human anatomy especially in female which manifest during child birth.
There is Cephalopelvic disproportion, a major complication during labour whereby there is a disproportion between the fetal head and the maternal pelvis which is managed by either symphisiotomy, use of obstetric forcep or C-section. Seeing a woman in obvious physical distress labouring for hours only to find out that her pelvic canal is too small for her baby is an agonising experience. .

TheArchangel:
Our female ancestors did not have such privilege of topnotch natal care. There are lots of faults in human anatomy especially in female which manifest during child birth.
There is Cephalopelvic disproportion, a major complication during labour whereby there is a disproportion between the fetal head and the maternal pelvis which is managed by either symphisiotomy, use of obstetric forcep or C-section. Seeing a woman in obvious physical distress labouring for hours only to find out that her pelvic canal is too small for her baby is an agonising experience. .

This is an abnormality. The average female's gynecoid pelvis is very well adapted to handle the challenges of childbirth.

Moved pelvic bones ?
That is a lifetime of permanent pain requiring therapy.

crackhaus:


The one who designed the human female anatomy sure knows that it can handle childbirth. I read somewhere that the pelvic bones can even move apart to give way, now that's some mean bio-engineering feat right there girl...totally outer-worldly.

RiloKiley:



This is an abnormality. The average female's gynecoid pelvis is very well adapted to handle the challenges of childbirth.

There is nothing average about a female "gynaecoid" pelvis. Women from different race and colour are born with different pelvic types. Having the so-called gynecoid... ideal pelvis for childbirth does not mean that women with platypelloid, anthropoid and android are walking about with abnormalities.
Four general pelvic types are taught in midwifery and obstetrical schools. Caldwell-Malloy (1933) taught that nearly half of Caucasian women have a Gynecoid pelvis (rounder at the inlet, but wider side-to-side and a little less room front-to-back) while nearly half of women of African descent are said to have an Anthropoid pelvis (oval at the inlet, roomiest front-to-back of all pelvic types).About 1/4 of all women have an android pelvis, with it’s triangular inlet and a bit smaller outlet than its own inlet.
Only about 5% of women are said to have a platypelloid pelvis.( Sylvia- obstetrics by ten teachers).
CPD is a disproportion not an abnormality, it's predisposing factors/ causes maybe abnormal but the disorder itself is not.
Childbirth is not all about the passage which in this case is the pelvis,
the problems from the passenger- baby and it's baggages
and then the problem from the power -- mother are the major contributors to the outcome of labour. When all this are well taken care of, the outcome are often favourable.

Ujoan:


Yeah, that's what ante-natal classes are for. But I registered in a Private Hospital where they put more emphasis on Praying/preaching, than actually preparing women for delivery. Antenatal classes were more like crusades and eventually, I just didn't bother with them anymore. Just went on normal clinic days for check-up.

I'm not sure women know how to push without being told oh . . . Biko who'd actually think 'pushing' a baby was actually done the same way you'd 'push' out hard poo poo . . . I mean they don't even come out from the same hole

Abeg make I go before I give these our teenage friends HBP!

Nice chatbwith you though

Ujoan:


Yeah, that's what ante-natal classes are for. But I registered in a Private Hospital where they put more emphasis on Praying/preaching, than actually preparing women for delivery. Antenatal classes were more like crusades and eventually, I just didn't bother with them anymore. Just went on normal clinic days for check-up.

I'm not sure women know how to push without being told oh . . . Biko who'd actually think 'pushing' a baby was actually done the same way you'd 'push' out hard poo poo . . . I mean they don't even come out from the same hole

Abeg make I go before I give these our teenage friends HBP!

Nice chat with you though

Mindfulness:


My grandma would agree with you to some extent but she says women were stronger because they had enough flesh on their bones and didn't look as anorexic as we do today.

Let's not forget how many women died in the course or as a consequence of child birth and how many infants as well. And let's remember how old they looked in their 30s and how attractive some women today can be way past their 40s.

You are correct. I guess societal ignorance is also part of the problem. As a village girl, the probability of haven seen a real delivery in process is higher than in the city where the doctors and midwives lock you indoors and come outbafter some hours with a baby.

I guess, seeing more women cope with the pain willbmake more women less traumatized bybthe experience. Its just a guess, you ladies would be able to say ifbsuch examples will help

millyj:
Bros the pain we women go through during child birth you can,t begin to understand even if you are inside the labour.after my first child(labouring for almost two days before I finally landed in the theater) it wasn,t funny all couldn,t even talk anymore.my second was OK,my third another near death experience... Overall every woman with their own experience

Yea, every pregnancy is different and there is nothing like "I have experience" in this field.

TheArchangel:
There is nothing average about a female "gynaecoid" pelvis. Women from different race and colour are born with different pelvic types. Having the so-called gynecoid... ideal pelvis for childbirth does not mean that women with platypelloid, anthropoid and android are walking about with abnormalities.
Four general pelvic types are taught in midwifery and obstetrical schools. Caldwell-Malloy (1933) taught that nearly half of Caucasian women have a Gynecoid pelvis (rounder at the inlet, but wider side-to-side and a little less room front-to-back) while nearly half of women of African descent are said to have an Anthropoid pelvis (oval at the inlet, roomiest front-to-back of all pelvic types).About 1/4 of all women have an android pelvis, with it’s triangular inlet and a bit smaller outlet than its own inlet.
Only about 5% of women are said to have a platypelloid pelvis.( Sylvia- obstetrics by ten teachers).
CPD is a disproportion not an abnormality, it's predisposing factors/ causes maybe abnormal but the disorder itself is not.
Childbirth is not all about the passage which in this case is the pelvis,
the problems from the passenger- baby and it's baggages
and then the problem from the power -- mother are the major contributors to the outcome of labour. When all this are well taken care of, the outcome are often favourable.

Lol, thanks for the lecture.

U mentioned only CPD so I addressed only CPD. Ideally the baby's head should pass through the pelvis without much trouble. Cephalopelvic disproportion is an abnormality warranting human intervention. End of story.

thorpido:
I guess it does.I compare it to shouting in sports when you throw a hammer,a javelin or lift weights.

No harm with groans or sounds during delivery: it is expected as part of what youbdo to diffuse the pain.

My problem is WAILING and VERBAL TANTRUMS you need to visit sldelivery rooms to understand what some women do during delivery.

I guess a lot has to do with cultural factors(I could be wrong). Note that in this part of the world it is perfectly normal for a female to display maximum emotional display of grief during a funeral.

thorpido:
I guess it does.I compare it to shouting in sports when you throw a hammer,a javelin or lift weights.

No harm with groans or sounds during delivery: it is expected as part of what youbdo to diffuse the pain.

My problem is WAILING and VERBAL TANTRUMS you need to visit delivery rooms to understand what some women do during delivery.

I guess a lot has to do with cultural factors(I could be wrong). Note that in this part of the world it is perfectly normal for a female to display maximum emotional display of grief during a funeral.

yvelchstores:
just imagine. do u realize some people die in d process of child birth? u have no idea how painful child birth is.

If you check my posts, all has been from an understanding point of view. It is not to condem women but to encourage them.

If men were to go through the pains of delivery, the world population would be zero by now. I respect what mothers go through

Ishilove:

This post is the most unbelievable post I've read in recent times.

You are not qualified to advice women on how to act during labour and you will never be qualified.

No offence intended, I may not be perfectly qualified but I have a track record of success with my wife. She lectures young women with what I taught her.

Sometimes a psychological pep-up is what is required to bear the pain without wails and tantrums.

We were in our three pregnancies together. The greatest lesson is:
The Pain is real and strong
There is nothing you do that will reduce the pain
You can choose to temper your behavior when the contraction starts since wailing doesn't reduce the pain
Learn to breath properly during delivery

Let's not throw away the rational side over the emotional. They complement each other.

Would you rather encourage your younger sister tobexercise some measure of control when the pain comes or to panic and scatter everywhere?