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The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by bigfrancis21: 5:17am On Sep 28, 2016
The introduction of the fracking process has dealt a huge blow on the international crude oil market. Since the fracking technique boomed in the US in October 2014, the U.S. has shed roughly 100,000 oil and gas industry jobs, some 16 percent of employment at its peak. The U.S. economy has added over 3.5 million jobs in other sectors over the same period.

Fracking is an extraction technique for oil and gas wells in which rocks are fractured artificially with the use of pressurized liquid. The process involves drilling down into the earth and injecting a highly pressurized mixture of water, sand and thickening agent, also called “fracking fluid,” into a wellbore to create cracks in rock formations. Once the hydraulic pressure is removed from the well, the remnants of the fracking fluid hold the fractures open, making it easy to extract the oil and gas inside. Fractures can also exist naturally in formations, and both natural and man-made fractures can be widened by fracking. As a result, more oil and gas can be extracted from a given area of land.

Fracking increases the rate at which water, petroleum or natural gas can be recovered from subterranean wells. It has also allowed the extraction of unconventional oil and gas resources from low permeability sites where traditional extraction technologies fail. Fracking as a method for oil and gas extraction is also more economically viable than conventional or horizontal drilling. In the United States, domestic oil production has grown significantly with the introduction of fracking. The process has driven down gas prices and offered gas security to both the United States and Canada for about 100 years.

Read more: Fracking Definition | Investopedia http://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fracking.asp#ixzz4LWE3rVQ7

The discovery of the fracking process dealt a huge blow on the international crude oil market and it has helped the US and Canada to effectively maximize crude oil extraction in its own borders, thus, heavily reducing its reliance on crude oil imports from other countries. Before the fracking boom, the US and Canada were major crude oil importers, importing huge amounts of crude oil from countries such as Nigeria, Algeria, etc. needed to support the energy demands of its population. With the huge reduction in demand by the US and Canada for crude oil importation, international crude oil prices fell from as high as $140 before to between $30 to $45 per barrel. This has left a huge scar on the economies of oil producing countries that rely on oil exports for survival. Many of these countries have been battling to find their feet since their major source of income was largely diminished. The impact has been felt worldwide, most oil companies have laid off oil and gas staff workers. Within 2 years, the Nigerian economy has fallen into a recession. From all indications, the international oil market does not seem likely to rebound to its former lucrative status, at least, not in the next 100 years.

What then does this imply for the oil-producing Igbo-speaking communities of Rivers state, where many members deny their Igboness, partly due to the impetus derived from crude oil discovery in their backyards? Crude oil discovery in many communities in Nigeria has caused war and division between formerly united and peaceful people. The creation of oil-rich Rivers state in the late 90s and the inclusion of Igbo-speaking oil-producing communities, such as Egbema, Obigbo/Oyigbo, etc., in this new state has been a driving factor in leading many of them to deny being Igbo to curry favour with the Nigerian government. These communities have since then enjoyed their newfound friendship and status with the FG to the detriment of their relationship with their Igbo-speaking relatives in the SE. The crash in the oil market brings with it new implications. Now, crude oil is no longer valued as it used to be. When the US sells its fracking technology to other countries and other countries adopt the fracking process, the international oil market is doomed and the international demand for crude oil further reduces, thus reducing Nigeria's crude oil exports and potential earnings as the demand is no longer there. This would prompt Nigeria to look at exploring other possible sources of income. With the chips down and the politics of crude oil fading away, are these communities starting to realize that they no longer enjoy a titled status with the FG as before as their crude oil is now of little value? What does this imply for Igbo unity? Can we expect these people to reach out in efforts to re-unite and reaffirm their Igbo identity? A few months ago, an Ikwerre youth, Adiele Samuel, openly proclaimed his Igbo identity on the internet. In recent times, I've seen more and more Igbo-speaking people from Rivers and Delta states re-affirming their Igbo identity, this being most likely due to the fading away of the importance and independence attached to crude oil. Like big brothers looking out for their younger ones, are the Igbos of the SE willing to welcome these people back into the Igbo fold with embracing arms? Or would they continue to propagate their distinctness regardless?

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by sarrki(m): 5:19am On Sep 28, 2016
Observing
Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by bigfrancis21: 5:28am On Sep 28, 2016
We are Igbos, but denied Igbo because of Biafran War" says Ikwerre youths

By Adiele Samuel

Ikwerre youths has said that according to history, the people of Ikwerre are actually Igbos. The youths, in an epistle signed by one of their leaders, Adiele Samuel said that the reason why they were forced to deny their Igbo roots was to avoid being shortchanged in Nigeria during and after the Civil War.

Read for yourself: “We the youths of Ikwerre extraction, Elele, Ubima, Isiokpo, Ogbakiri, Omademe, Obiri Ikwerre, Rumuigbo, Rumuola, Rumukurushi, Rumuokoro, etc wish to make known our position as regards to Biafra movement.

The Ikwerre is a sub group of Igbo in the Niger Delta headquartered in Isiokpo Ancient Kingdom, we are some time classified as a separate ethnic group in Rivers State, if you call us Igbo you are not wrong and if you call us Ikwerre you are equally not wrong.

There are reasons behind the creation of Rivers State, one was to frustrate the Biafran dream and two was to divide the Igbo ethnic group being regarded as separatist tribe.

The division of old Eastern Nigeria no doubt was based on popular demands by the non Igbo speaking communities due to fear of marginalization, loosing their identity and other lies peddled by Nigeria Government.

When Rivers State was carved out from the east, there was need to divide the Igbo, on the process, part of Igbo communities were carved into Rivers State which resulted to identity crises, as some started rewriting the Ikwerre history to please the North.

The name Ikwerre is as if you are asking a question and then someone from Imo State replies you “Nkwerre” which is an LGA in the State.

The problem of most of our youth is that they rely on what their grand fathers told them without studying wide. In Eli kwerre, if you have not married from Imo you are not in line, most Ikwerre wives are Imolites and we speak Igbo even more than some Igbos who claims to be original Igbo.

The identity crisis in Rivers State started immediately after the war, some claim Bini origin, notable of them is Elechi Amadi the author of the Concubine, in all his books has promoted the Igbo culture but in a surprised move denounced his Igboness before Justice Oputa who reminded him of his Igbo names and Igboid language, No Igbo speaks the same. We can not admit our Igbo identity except during elections like Amaechi”. Ikwerre Meka

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 5:34am On Sep 28, 2016
When will this ipob youths stop all this there hear say articles without fact, "ikwerre is igbo because an ikwerre youth on the internet said he is igbo," utter nonsense, i blame nairaland for giving illetrates an audience, there are no Igbos in riverstate
Here is riverstate website not this ur hear say sources
http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Danzakidakura(m): 5:41am On Sep 28, 2016
They are the one leaving in self denied I don't think the Igbo's nyamirai) have ever denied their brothers .

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 5:49am On Sep 28, 2016
We The Ikwerre Are Igbos By Ikechukwu A. Ogu

This is a rejoinder to Mr. Okachikwu Dibia’s article entitled “Ikwerre-Igbo Relationship As Seen By Ohaneze Nd’Igbo” published on www.gamji.com wherein he attacked a comment reportedly made by the President of Ohaneze Nd’Igbo, Chief Ralph Uwechue, that the Ikwerres are Igbos who now deny their true ethnic identity. It is an established fact that there are indigenous Igbo-speaking peoples in Rivers, Delta, Edo and Cross River States. My mission here is not to urge the Ikwerres and other Igbos who behave like to admit being Igbo. Rather, I intend to correct some historical gaffes, deliberate distortions and logical fallacies contained in Mr. Dibia’s write-up, and state the truth as I know it.

It amuses me when indigenes of Igbo-speaking communities outside the South-East deny their Igbo identity. The Ikwerres, represented by the likes of Okachikwu Dibia, are the fiercest and most strident in this act of playing the ostrich. The renowned writer Elechi Amadi, an Ikwerre man, restated this renunciation before the Oputa Panel in 2004 but was reminded of his Igbo name. Ironically, he is quoted to have upheld the Igbo origin of Ikwerres in one of his writings. Howbeit, Igbos in South-East Nigeria justifiably regard the Igbo-speaking areas of Rivers State (Ikwerre, Etche, Ogba, Ekpeye, Opobo, Ahaoda, Ndoni, Egbema, etc) as their kith and kin. On the other hand, the Ijaws and other non-Igbos of Rivers State also rightly refer to these communities as Igbos, and even claim that Rivers State has been under Igbo rule since 1999!

Generally, a person’s native name, mother-tongue, pedigree and ancestral geographical location define his race. But this may not be so in cases where an individual bears a name and speaks a language unrelated to the one associated with his ancestors. However, when the indigenes of an entire community speak as their mother tongue a language associated with a particular race, bear names borne only by persons of that race, share boundaries with communities within that race and have traditions similar to theirs, then the inescapable conclusion is that they belong to that race. This is the place of Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities in Rivers, Delta, Edo and Cross River States vis-à -vis the Igbos of the South-East. The Austrians and indigenes of Sudetenland in Czech Republic speak German, bear German names, have traditions similar to those of the Germans and share boundaries with Germany, although they find themselves in distinct countries. This is also true of the Yoruba-speaking peoples found in Edo, Kogi and Kwara States as well as in Benin Republic. Just recently, a monarch from Benin Republic visited the Alaafin of Oyo and acknowledged his Yoruba roots.

Another exception to the above is where the community was a vassal to or colonized by the race whose language and names they speak and bear, as seen in Northern Nigeria where the Hausa-Fulanis have administrative and religious hegemony over many minority tribes sequel to Usman Dan Fodio’s 19th century jihad. Even so, indigenes of such a community still retain their native names, language and traditions.

Contrary to Mr. Dibia’s fictitious claim, there was no time in history that Nd’Igbo colonized or dominated the Ikwerres or any other community let alone imposed Igbo names on them. They never desired or attempted it. Owing to its republican and egalitarian nature, the Igbo race was never organized administratively as to colonize others. Had this happened prior to British rule in Nigeria, same would have been noticed and documented by the Europeans. Does Mr. Dibia regard the period when the entire South-East and South-South formed one Eastern Region of Nigeria as the period of Igbo colonization? That would be absurd. This warped idea means that, perhaps, only Ikwerres were so “colonized”, for no other community has alluded to it. If Nd’Igbo imposed the name Ikwerre on Mr. Dibia’s people, did they also force other communities to address them as such? The Hausas call the Afizere people of North-Central Nigeria and Igbos Jarawa and Nyamiri (corrupted form of nye m miri – Igbo expression for “give me water”) respectively, yet every other ethnic group calls them by their real names. Besides, some people have pet names for their towns, as the Aros call Arochukwu Okigbo. I presume this to be the case with the name Iwheruoha which Mr. Dibia claims as the original name for Ikwerre. What I know is that Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking peoples of Rivers State call Igbos of the South-East Isoma and vice versa.

Furthermore, was Ikwerre ruled by the 19th century King Jaja of Opobo, an ex-slave from Amaigbo in Imo State who transformed to king of Opobo (Igwe Nga) in present-day Rivers State? Even so, that is not tantamount to colonization by Nd’Igbo. However, the case of Jaja shows that some of the present-day non-Igbo indigenes of Rivers and Bayelsa States may be descendants of Igbo slaves who escaped exportation overseas and settled in the midst of Ijaws, gradually acquiring a semblance of the latter. For instance, a friend of mine from a community in Yenagoa told me that Igbo words and expressions constitute about seventy percent of their vocabulary.

History has not credited the Aros (Ndi-Aru) with colonialism, as we know it, although many of them travelled and settled around several parts of Igboland and beyond as merchants of goods and slaves and messengers of the Long Juju. Prior to the advent of Christianity, the Long Juju was voluntarily employed by its Igbo and non-Igbo adherents for traditional adjudication, divination and resolution of spiritual problems; it was regarded then as the earthly abode of God (Ihu Chukwuabiama). Today, as a legacy of our interaction with Ndi-Aru, some families in my town bear names like Nwaru and Uzoaru, yet they neither colonized us nor had any settlement in my town.

Let Mr. Dibia tell us. Between what dates in history did Igbos colonize Ikwerres? Who were the Igbo administrators? Where, when and how did Nd’Igbo force Ikwerres to change their names? What are the non-Igbo names Ikwerres bore prior to the alleged colonization and forced name change? One wonders why Ikwerres have not changed Ogbako (Igbo word for gathering or meeting) to something like Rogbako to make it less Igbo. Did Nd’Igbo also “force” them in 1963 to use that word when they formed Ogbako Ikwerre Convention? Surprisingly, Mr. Dibia, whose surname is Igbo word for [native] doctor, neither told us if his first name Okachikwu is also an Igbo imposition nor gave the non-Igbo names of his ancestors. I can mention the names of all my ancestors up to the founder of my village around the 15th century!

Pray, in line with Mr. Dibia’s bizarre hypothesis of Igbo colonialism, did Nd’Igbo also colonize the Igbo-speaking peoples of Anioma in Delta State and Igba

nke in Edo State? A friend from Igbanke informed me that his people should be part of Anioma in Delta State, but Dr. Samuel Ogbemudia whose mother hails from there influenced their being in Edo State. They bear Esan names, speak the language in order to be taken as such, yet their mother tongue is a dialect of Igbo. In his 18th century autobiography entitled The Interesting Narrative of the Life of Olaudah Equiano or Gustavus Vassa, the African, Written By Himself, Olaudah Equiano, whose roots have been traced to somewhere around Edo and Delta States, declared unequivocally and proudly that he was Igbo! That is how it should be.

We know that every language has dialects which vary from each other. Some persons erroneously interpret these dialects as distinct languages, possibly because some dialects are so deep that indigenes of another community within the same race hardly understand them. But if all indigenes of the communities concerned understand the central language of the race, then they belong to that race. When the Ikwerre man speaks what he says is not Igbo language, the average Igboman who speaks Igbo understands him, even easier than some other Igbo dialects. A dispassionate look at the Ikwerre tongue shows that it is just a dialect of Igbo language. The inherent (not the recently invented) variations are understandable for a dialect, for same are equally noticeable among the Igbo communities in the South-East. The names of the Igbo four market days of Eke, Orie, Afor and Nkwo and pagan gods of Ala, Amadioha, Ojukwu, Agwu, etc are the same among Ikwerres.

There are available records showing that during the colonial era, Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities of Rivers State related with the British colonialists under the name of Igbos. It was only after the Nigerian Civil War that they began renouncing any link to the Igbo race and altered the spellings and pronunciations of their names and towns to pass them off as non-Igbo. For instance, Amanweke, an original Ikwerre name was changed to Rumuokwuta to make it less Igbo. They did this to avoid being left out of the new Rivers State by Gowon’s regime, and to curry favour with the Ijaws who were given charge of the new state. There is even a rumour that the Ikwerres took an oath to do so. A maternal uncle of mine, who was born and bred in Port Harcourt, narrated how immediately after the Civil War an Ikwerre friend of his startled him by feigning ignorance of the Igbo language in which both of them had conversed previously!

There exist in some parts of Abia and Imo States two traditional dances called Eshe and Uko played during the funeral of elderly men and women, respectively. My grandfather, who died in 1988 at over a hundred years, told me that long before his birth, players of those dances, on invitation, travelled to Ikwerre and other Igbo-speaking parts of Rivers State to play same during funerals. I witnessed this when my eldest uncle who played Eshe travelled severally to Ikwerre and Etche to same. Could this have been possible barring any cultural and linguistic similarities between the communities involved? The same interactions which Mr. Dibia claims existed between Nd’Igbo and Ikwerres from the 16th century equally existed between Nd’Igbo and Ijaw and other non-Igbo communities of Rivers and Bayelsa States, yet they do not share the same cultural and linguistic similarities with Igbos as Ikwerres. However, a legacy of this interaction is that some of these peoples bear Igbo names such as Nwokoma, Chukwuemeka, Ebere, Odo, etc, just as some Igbos in Abia and Imo States bear their names such as Amakiri, Igbani, Gogo, Cookey, Ubani and Igoni.

My grandfather told me that before 1913 when Lord Lugard gave it its current name, Port Harcourt was called Igwe Ocha. Let Mr. Dibia refute this, and also tell us if Ikwerres objected to the name imposition by the British. When he claimed that Ikwerres bear Ovunda while the Igbos bear Obinna, he lumped two things together. The name Obi in Igbo means either heart or house; thus Obinna literally means either father’s heart or father’s house. In some Igbo dialects, obi in the second sense is referred to as ovu or obu which also denotes the central living-room in a man’s compound, usually detached from other houses therein. I doubt if ovu has a different meaning among the Ikwerres. The name Amadi is popularly borne by the Ikwerres, just like in Imo and Abia States. It is the short form of Amadioha (Igbo pagan god of thunder) and figuratively means a (free) man. Let Mr. Dibia tell us the distinct meaning it has among the Ikwerres. In Mbaise, Ngwa and Arochukwu, the second child in a family is called Nwulu or Ulunwa; in Ikwerre it is Worlu or Orlunwo.

I expected Mr. Dibia to provide a cast-iron evidence of the non-Igbo origin of the Ikwerres. Barring such, it is hard to believe that the Ikwerres and other Igbo-speaking communities outside the South-East are not Igbos. It is a known fact that as an ethnic group spreads geographically, several variations emerge in its language. Again, communities on the border between two ethnic groups most times find themselves being receptacles of conflicting cultures and languages. Mr. Dibia should know that the fact that Ikwerres opposed the NCNC’s nomination of a non-indigene to represent Port Harcourt in an elective post is not enough to give them the status of a distinct ethnic group. When Enugu State was created, its indigenes asked other Igbos to leave their public service. Even some Lagosians opposed the appointment of fellow Yorubas from other states into Bola Tinubu’s cabinet.

By dismissing appearance, language and name while preferring character alone as the determinant of a people’s race, Mr. Dibia seems to suggest that a particular ethnic group in North-Central Nigeria where husbands allegedly offer their wives and daughters to cherished male guests is of the same race with the Eskimos of Eurasia who reportedly exhibit a similar character. It also follows from his postulation that since Nd’Igbo are republican and egalitarian like the Greeks, they both belong to the same ethnic stock. This will be a great assault on logic. He forgot that even siblings have distinct characters. Happily, there are some Ikwerre people who admit the truth of their Igbo identity. Currently an Ikwerre man is the 3rd Vice-President of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, the pan-Igbo socio-cultural organisation.

Perhaps, Ikwerres had hoped to be taken as non-Igbos upon renouncing their Igbo identity, only to face the reality that no matter how strong in flight a butterfly is, it is not a bird! Now, they and others in the same boat are victims of self-induced identity crisis which the likes of Mr. Dibia are perpetuating. I am proud of my Igbo identity; God forbid that I should turn myself into a bat, neither air nor land animal! What, however, I cannot explain is the hatred the Ikwerres have for Igbos, exemplified by Mr. Dibia’s malicious and unproven accusation of “the ill activities of the Igbo in Ikwerre”. They were willing allies of the Ijaws in the formulation and implementation of the anti-Igbo Abandoned Property policy at the end of the Nigerian Civil War. A very amusing argument by Mr. Dibia is that Ikwerres are better endowed than Nd’Igbo, a spurious claim for which he supplied no supporting statistics. I assume he has the enormous crude oil reserves in Rivers State in mind for his claim.

However, the admission or denial by Ikwerres or any other Igbos of their true race will neither enhance nor derogate from the status of Nd’Igbo. Nevertheless, in line with Mr. Dibia’s emotional plea, let Ikwerres and others of that hue be whatever and whoever they now claim to be. But my father told me that in spite of its unsightly appearance and feeding habits, the vulture (udele in Igbo) is still a bird; and despite the beautiful yellow-black stripes of a particular species of rat (called oguru in some parts of Imo and Abia States) it is still a rat.

Writer: Ikechukwu A. Ogu

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by proeast(m): 6:15am On Sep 28, 2016
I only pity them, they have been used & dumped by Nigeria. Nevertheless, we will still accept them back into fold of Igbo nation if they show enough remorse & rectitude just the same way the prodigal son was forgiven. The ball is in their court but haughtiness or arrogance from them will be visited with disproportionate ferocity against them as well. Thumbs up to Igbos in Delta & Rivers that never allowed oil politics to define their origin!!

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by gidgiddy: 6:16am On Sep 28, 2016
AjiereTuwo:
When will this ipob youths stop all this there hear say articles without fact, "ikwerre is igbo because an ikwerre youth on the internet said he is igbo," utter nonsense, i blame nairaland for giving illetrates an audience, there are no Igbos in riverstate
Hear is riverstate website not this ur hear say sources
http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/

I think that it is time you guys stop peddling the Rivers state website in this regard. The same website that is telling you that there are no Igbo's in Rivers is the same one that is telling you that there are no Ijaws or Ogonis in Rivers.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 6:18am On Sep 28, 2016
gidgiddy:


I think that it is time you guys stop peddling the Rivers state website in this regard. The same website that is telling you that there are no Igbo's in Rivers is the same one that is telling you that there are no Ijaws or Ogonis in Rivers.
Are you sure you read that website?

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 6:23am On Sep 28, 2016
Igbos that are not even united among themselves want to annex other ethnic groups because they are minorities, to this day an Ndoki man can't be a governor in Abia state, because they are seen as Ijaws, an Anambra man isnt given the same benefits as an indegene in Imo, and you are here writing useless articles. Rivers state is a blessed state dats why your youths are leaving your eroded regions to find greener pastures, beyond oil we will still survive, so move on with this your bulsit

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by proeast(m): 6:24am On Sep 28, 2016
sarrki:
Observing
What are you observing you troll? does your life & existence depend on Igbos & Biafra?? Any mention of them gets you crying, winning, cursing and gnashing your teeth! This is so shameful bro, why not get a life, focus on yourself and your region and leave others to mind their own business?? This attitude is not only reprehensible to sane minds, it is also disgusting and diabolical. Thank You & God bless as you take my advise.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by ever811(m): 6:30am On Sep 28, 2016
chai..people no get work...me read this long writeup, I dey craze...

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Alexis11: 6:41am On Sep 28, 2016
AjiereTuwo:
Igbos that are not even united among themselves want to annex other ethnic groups because they are minorities, to these day an Ndoki man can't be a governor because they are seen as Ijaws, an Anambra man isnt given the same benefits as an indegene in Imo, and you are here writing useless articles. Rivers state is a blessed state dats why you are youths are leaving your eroded regions to find greener pastures, beyond oil we will still survive, so move on with this your bulsit

Lol.... If they had gotten Biafra in 1967, they will probably have just one town left in Biafra now grin
Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 6:44am On Sep 28, 2016
Igbo people always dream, eat, think Ikwerre.

Na wah oh, what kind of obsession is this??

Igboid aka pazienza aka ariani wassup with all dis?

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Alexis11: 6:52am On Sep 28, 2016
Pharaoh9:
Afonjas will always Afonjas
They only come and spew thrash
Let them come first na cool
Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by mykemiley(f): 6:53am On Sep 28, 2016
Which tym sum pple go learn to mind their business?even 4 diz recession tym......nawaooo embarassed embarassed lipsrsealed embarassed embarassed
Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Thewrath(m): 6:55am On Sep 28, 2016
AjiereTuwo:
When will this ipob youths stop all this there hear say articles without fact, "ikwerre is igbo because an ikwerre youth on the internet said he is igbo," utter nonsense, i blame nairaland for giving illetrates an audience, there are no Igbos in riverstate
Here is riverstate website not this ur here say sources
http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/
The Internet has done more harm than good to you kids,am a deltan from anioma,my dad is from delta's anioma and my mom is Binin, we speak full blown Igbo.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 6:58am On Sep 28, 2016
Thewrath:

The Internet has done more harm than good to you kids,am a deltan from anioma,my dad is Igbo and my mom is Bunin, we speak full blown Igbo.
Oga who gives a rats axx if you are from delta, did you even read what I wrote before you quoted

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Thewrath(m): 7:00am On Sep 28, 2016
HopeAtHand:
Igbo people always dream, eat, think Ikwerre.

Na wah oh, what kind of obsession is this??

Igboid aka pazienza aka ariani wassup with all dis?
What is that supposed to mean?
Because an artificial map carved some of us out of SE because of oil?
I can't speak for rivers,but you can't tell me am not Igbo because some useless govt carved me into a delta state where my identity is threatened as a minority!

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Thewrath(m): 7:03am On Sep 28, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

Oga who gives a rats axx if you are from delta, did you even read what I wrote before you quoted
My friend shut it,you gave an example using an ikwerre youth being Igbo because he said so on "the Internet".
Now hypocritically,you still bring up a website developed to backup the division and expect us to agree to it,did you agree to the ikwerre youth?
Nonsense!

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by 1shortblackboy: 7:05am On Sep 28, 2016
These igbos do start again ? Na wa o

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by TonyeBarcanista(m): 7:09am On Sep 28, 2016
gidgiddy:


I think that it is time you guys stop peddling the Rivers state website in this regard. The same website that is telling you that there are no Igbo's in Rivers is the same one that is telling you that there are no Ijaws or Ogonis in Rivers.
which website said there are no Ijaws in Rivers? Don't drag ijaws into your troubles.

If Ikwerre keep saying they aren't Igbo, that should be their headache and business. All these threads that wails more than the bereaved only send message of desperation and insecurity.


NB: I'm not interested in further conversation on this subject, and I'll gladly ignore you and others that seek to overstretch this conversation.

Rivers State is the sixth-largest geographic area in Nigeria according to 2006 census data. The state has an indigenous diverse population with major riverine and upland divisions. The dominant ethnic groups are: Ikwerre, Ijaw and Ogoni.
http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by HopeAtHand: 7:12am On Sep 28, 2016
Thewrath:

What is that supposed to mean?
Because an artificial map carved some of us out of SE because of oil?
I can't speak for rivers,but you can't tell me am not Igbo because some useless govt carved me into a delta state where my identity is threatened as a minority!

From my comment, you can observed that i was talking specifically about Ikwerre.

Ikwerre is recognised by the constitution of Nigeria as a separate entity from Igbos, so Igbos should be able to apply caution when talking about Ikwerre/Igbo issues because of its legal implication.

It is one thing to wish, it is another to accept reality.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Thewrath(m): 7:18am On Sep 28, 2016
HopeAtHand:


From my comment, you can observed that i was talking specifically about Ikwerre.

Ikwerre is recognised by the constitution of Nigeria as a separate entity from Igbos, so Igbos should be able to apply caution when talking about Ikwerre/Igbo issues because of its legal implication.

It is one thing to wish, it is another to accept reality.
I was also specifying on delta if you also noticed.
I respect everyone's stand,be you ikwerre,ijaw etc.
But don't go about trying to speak for any minority apart from yours,especially in rivers or delta.
Ikwerre or ijaw may not be Igbo,but there are indegenous Igbos in delta and rivers.

And there was no need for the first hate speech about Igbos.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by midol: 7:19am On Sep 28, 2016
The yoruba muslim bonsurudeens as usual begging their Allah to make SS Igbos hate SE Igbos, because Oshogborians with mouth odour want to drink 'oyel'. grin grin grin

Reminds me of that yoruba taxi driver in PH that was almost beaten to pulp with chains by an Ikwerrre for telling the Ikwerre guy he is not Igbo.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Nobody: 7:30am On Sep 28, 2016
Thewrath:

My friend shut it,you gave an example using an ikwerre youth being Igbo because he said so on "the Internet".
Now hypocritically,you still bring up a website developed to backup the division and expect us to agree to it,did you agree to the ikwerre youth?
Nonsense!
A fake ikwerre youth can be created to prove your cock and bull stories, i quoted the official rivers state website, which is the most current and accurate description the people of riversstate have taken

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Thewrath(m): 7:37am On Sep 28, 2016
AjiereTuwo:

A fake ikwerre youth can be created to prove your cock and bull stories, i quoted the official rivers state website, which is the most current and accurate description the people of riversstate have taken
Shove it up where ever you like.leave ikwerre matter for ikwerre and Igbo for Igbo,you won't die if you do.
Am outta here!

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Armaggedon: 7:40am On Sep 28, 2016
[s]
TonyeBarcanista:
which website said there are no Ijaws in Rivers? Don't drag ijaws into your troubles.

If Ikwerre keep saying they aren't Igbo, that should be their headache and business. All these threads that wails more than the bereaved only send message of desperation and insecurity.


NB: I'm not interested in further conversation on this subject, and I'll gladly ignore you and others that seek to overstretch this conversation.


http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/
[/s] The dominant
ethnic groups are Ijwa, Ikwere, Etche,
Ogoni, and Ogba/Egbema.

I found the above on same website. We have not forgotten that you left Apc because Amaechi (number 1 ikwerre man) declared he is Igbo.

Btw there are no ijaws in Rivers state going by Rivers state cos the state recognizes neither igbo nor Ijaw but we already know Rivers state is almost an Igbo state.

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by joeprince23(m): 7:42am On Sep 28, 2016
All this dumbskulls quoting INTERNET up and down sef! Ikwere(exept small part of emohua),etche,omuma,ahoada east,onelga,oyigbo,etc are all igbo. As an ndoki man i know this for sure because i am from rivers and i have lived and worked in different communities in rivers state. Some years back i went for an interview at the NDDC towers in aba road PH,i was asked if i could speak any rivers language,i said yes i can speak ndoki and ikwerre dialect. Behold and ogoni man right there coorrected me by saying"IKWERE and NDOKI are not RIVERS language rather they are IGBO". It was right there that i now realised rational behind igbo denial in this our rivers state, we igbos are majority but we are divided and stigmatised for being igbo.in abuloma an ikwere man is not seen as an indegene but rather as an IGBO man.during the construction of iriebe housing project in obio-apko. oyigbo people(my ndoki community) had a fierce disagreement with the iriebe(ikwere) people,we speak same dialect but we are not united

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by gidgiddy: 7:46am On Sep 28, 2016
TonyeBarcanista:
which website said there are no Ijaws in Rivers? Don't drag ijaws into your troubles.

If Ikwerre keep saying they aren't Igbo, that should be their headache and business. All these threads that wails more than the bereaved only send message of desperation and insecurity.


NB: I'm not interested in further conversation on this subject, and I'll gladly ignore you and others that seek to overstretch this conversation.


http://riversstate.net.ng/people-and-culture/

This has got nothing to with Ikwerre. This has more to do with this nonsense people keep repeating that there are no indigenous Igbos in Rivers State. Some people don't even know that a good chunk of Rivers State used to be in the old Owerri division

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Re: The End Of Crude Oil And Its Implications for The Igbo Identity In Rivers State by Armaggedon: 7:48am On Sep 28, 2016
gidgiddy:


This has got nothing to with Ikwerre. This has more to do with this nonsense people keep repeating that there are no indigenous Igbos in Rivers State. Some people don't even know that a good chunk of Rivers State used to be in the old Owerri division
yea

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