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Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 9:18am On Oct 23, 2016 |
petra1: Thanks for the reply to him. We as Christians forget that this school of God involves many Tests and Examinations. In addition, it is a battle with principalities and powers. He who thinks he has received admission to the university of God should take heed lest he loose his admission 1Co 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 9:21am On Oct 23, 2016 |
petra1: If you truly believe Heaven is a place and not a state of mind,that is your problem not mine. Your beliefs are what makes you. Your Mind is extremely powerful,it creates what you strongly believe in. Since you think heaven is up in the sky,it will always be far away from you. Then again misinterpretation of the bible has destroyed knowledge. The church is your body and your mind is the God of your church. But who cares anyway,it is your personal experience. A weak mind serves in the church created by others. 3 Likes |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 9:31am On Oct 23, 2016 |
promise10: Okay.... But believing some1 died on a cross for the sins of the world makes more sense? You are a false human if you don't think for yourself. You can stop quoting me otherwise you cannot stop me from speaking against distorted information that is ruining lots of lives. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 9:46am On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Gospel is a Latin borrowed word for news, information,a certain knowledge. However a gospel can be for good or negative. Often time to make a recipient think in a particular way. Concerning the VC distributing Freebies, I don't think life works that way. A certain individual cannot be responsible for giving you or anyone what you want. What about you having the ability to create your form without having to attend such institution? Freebies are never freebies, they come with conditions and rules.....like in the case of the god all Christians babies are subjected to, you must worship this god or no freebies! The Gospel of truth is one that sets you free from rules and obligations. That you are the light, true path of the world( your world) and anything your strongly believe in is what you get. According to bible( which is actually not a Christian book), it said Jesus made it clear that what ever he did,you can do better. Meaning you can be a brighter light than he was. This is an Esoteric knowledge that should empower you and not enslave you. Until you activate the powers of your mind you won't experience heaven. Heaven is an experience, not a place to worship the European version of god. 3 Likes |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 11:17am On Oct 23, 2016 |
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Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 11:17am On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Meaning you don't need to study (work) to get a PhD (salvation) but you are given a PhD so that you study, abi? Jesus showed that it is possible for man to attain a PhD, so if you want a PhD you follow his example, because at graduation the name on the Certificate is your name not your parent's. @bolded, it doesn't change anything, you work. 1 Like |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 11:24am On Oct 23, 2016 |
ifenes: A carton of Orijin for you. @ bolded, More than 2000 years after Jesus walked on water no Christian have dared to tried it. 1 Like |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by Nobody: 11:34am On Oct 23, 2016 |
ifenes: Ifenes ifenes ifenes how many times did I call you? When you lie in order to sell an idea you have it shows how desperately shallow and sad you are. You say the word GOSPEL was derived from Latin? Pls view the screengrab and stop lying. The screengrab alone nullifies your entire post.
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Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 3:05pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
ifenes: For someone who is not educated in the Christian theology, you would have carried them away with this your argument unfortunately, you are wrong. As you know, the NT is written in Greek. The word translated as gospel is: εὐαγγέλιον • (euangélion) n (genitive εὐαγγελίου); second declension. a reward for good news. good news. gospel. In case this definition doesn't suit, I have gotten another definition from a non Christian source: the wikidictionary What does the word EUANGELION mean? The Greek word euangelion is translated in various ways depending on context as the Gospel or the Good News. :: in.a.mirror.dimly :: The ancient Greek word for gospel was euangelion, which meant, literally, "good news." Where does the word gospel come from? The word gospel derives from the Old English gōd-spell (rarely godspel), meaning "good news" or "glad tidings". The word comes from the Greek euangelion, or "good news". So, the gospel means only one thing " good news". It is NOT just a news. ifenes: I perfectly agree with you that Life doesn't work that way. That is why only God can do that! Of course, nothing goes for nothing. God is doing men abfavour because Gods desire is to have creatures who are as close as children. These children of His, come out with different kind of degrees after graduating from the University of Heaven- Earth Campus. They faced challenges that could have broken their resolve to love this God and they succeeded. But the initial step is for there to be an enrollment! ifenes: Unfortunately, TOTAL freedom doesn't exist in the Universe. Notwithstanding, TWO kinds of freedom exists: 1. Freedom within the constraints of Gods Will 2. Independence From God Satan promises the second kind of freedom where a man or spirit declare his insubordination to God. Satan says: take the keep and you will be free from Gods control. Unfortunately, is it possible to be totally independent from ones creator? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 3:07pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
4everGod: I think I have corrected his mistake |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 3:10pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
menxer: That is why all Christians are apprentice of Christ! We shall get there: Still learning to put our faith to work |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 3:20pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
menxer: I guess you still don't get the port of the post: You don't need to work to obtain the Admission but You need to work to attain the degree.
Your next point, menxer: Whatever attainment you desire is a product of work but only after you become born again. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 4:45pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka: So after more than 2000 years we are still apprenticing, yet Jesus took just 33 years to master walking on water? Walking on water is not faith talking but a demonstration of mastery. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by xpmode(m): 4:50pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
ifenes: You are right, I AM NOT HAPPY, AND AM SAD! Because I see a lot of people not happy as I am, and I try to put smile on their faces but unhappy people seems to end And That is why I tell people there is a Heaven they will go if they can just live a life better than a good person. And this year alone I know few I have made happy Can you beat that |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 4:57pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka: You know what? Jesus was not a Christian. Why was Jesus persecuted? Because he circumvented the established religion of his day to beat a new path to Christhood. And put a challenge to us to do (achieve) more than he did. Yet here we are bickering over faith, grace and salvation. News flash: scientists have discovered how to create Plasma (aether), I guess you know what that means? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 5:34pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
xpmode: A sad and unhappy person cannot make another happy. He needs to cure his plague before trying to help another. Heaven is a metaphor, it is not a place but a state of individual experience. Heaven is when you are in Alignment, oneness, full of love, radiant, excited etc. 2 Likes |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 5:41pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I think you are holding onto negative beliefs. Beliefs shape our realities. There is total freedom, but it depends if you accept it or not. It is not a crime to feel you cannot be totally free, it is a choice. If god to you is a control figure, by all means enjoy that. However that is a God created for you to control you. For others they are God and they create better worlds than you can imagine. 1 Like |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by analice107: 11:22pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
shadeyinka:I didn't get this mention. okay oo. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by analice107: 11:28pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
jcross19:Guys, see Jcross oo. Where have you been man? i have searched for you everywhere in NL. Good to see ya nose. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by analice107: 11:47pm On Oct 23, 2016 |
menxer:Lolz, the word "Discover" floors every thing. To discover something means the thing was there, but you just didn't know it yet. The question to you now is, Who put it there for them to discover? Try use your head sir. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by jcross19: 12:00am On Oct 24, 2016 |
analice107:funny!!!! I dey kidigba!!!!!. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 6:34am On Oct 24, 2016 |
analice107: You have stylishly avoided the main gist to harp on "Discover". Yes, just like Jesus "discovered" how to walk on water or turn water to wine. And there are many more discoveries on the way. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 7:49am On Oct 24, 2016 |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 8:08am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ifenes: Genesis 3
It's still the same old serpend in his wisdom helping men to declare their independence from God. Satan first move was to cause men to see themselves as limited and constrained by Gods law. 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: Mans response is £I am free BUT, I am dependent on what God says. My freedom is constrained.
Satan moves in for the kill 1. Do not fear any consequence of declaring your independence. (You will not die! ) 2. God is hiding vital information from you! 3. The information is that you shall 100%be free from everything except yourself. You are gods 4 God doesn't want you to be like Him. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Some quickly forget that they were created and hence can only exist by the permission of Him who made them. Please answer this. Do you think that a created being truely can be independent of His Creator? Is it the truth that this world is likeban exam? Is itbtrue that we live on after death? Is it true that there is judgement after death? What is the pass mark criteria? If the 3 questions above are true, do you think you can pass the exam? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 8:18am On Oct 24, 2016 |
menxer: The overall point is that Jesus said: Except a man be Born Again, he cannot see the kingdom of God! The main thrust of this post is to explain with what is families "How to Be BornAgain" Please truthfully answer me this question Are you Born Again? There is a follow-up question after this! menxer: I don't understand this. Scientists have being creating plasma in the lab from the 1960s, so what's the fuss. I guess I don't understand what you mean here |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 8:22am On Oct 24, 2016 |
menxer: How do you think Peter was also able to walk on water? Was it by Faith or by Mastery? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 8:55am On Oct 24, 2016 |
4everGod: Gospel simply means good news or an exciting report..nothing to do with God. Please don't quote me again! I don't enjoy your conversations. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 9:09am On Oct 24, 2016 |
shadeyinka: I really should have quit this site honestly! I will say this again. Genesis is a combination of Esoteric knowledge of the Mind creating realities and the Sumerian tablet. God creating the Universe is your Mind creating your experience. The Serpent is a metaphor for knowledge. Didn't the bible say be as wise as the serpent? But the story of the apple and tree of life is only a story to preserve the knowledge of how man became a curious being. I won't go further Satan is a Metaphor for the Ego a Mind, the Mind without God( meaning a human who acts only with his left brain) God and Satan is within us all. Not in the sky but inside of you. The problem is that the negative teachings in churches have negatively influenced you. Think of this, how come God and Satan have never been found anywhere? Reason is you are both. You can be good or bad depending on your psychic The three questions you asked are not credible. There is no death or judgment nor reward. You can only be what you think. 2 Likes |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 9:10am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ifenes: Ifenes, I want to ask you a direct question. Are you BornAgain? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by ifenes(m): 9:13am On Oct 24, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Can you explain what Born again means? |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by menxer: 9:46am On Oct 24, 2016 |
shadeyinka: Let me answer with a question, between the Elijah/Elisha experience and Jesus/Peter experience who was able to repeat the feat in the absence of his Master? If you say Peter walked on water by faith, how come he never repeated the feat? Forgiving the fact that Peter failed even in presence of the Master. In the case of Elisha, he was able to repeat the feat showing he had mastery. |
Re: Are You A REAL Or FAKE Student Of The University Of Heaven? by shadeyinka(m): 10:09am On Oct 24, 2016 |
ifenes: Sorry, I misspelled your name. I think I have used this post t explain it. I guess the important thing now is "your definition and interpretation" and then we can compare notes and make clarifications. |
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