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Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:27pm On Sep 11
mrvitalis:


Your point us baseless

From the bible even God killed more people than anyone else

God giveth and God has the right to take life as He wishes, but you neither can give life but wish to take life does that not make you a murderer who wishes to steal, murder and destroy? See below how many deaths the godless are responsible for. shocked

Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by mrvitalis(m): 12:40pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


God giveth and God has the right to take life as He wishes, but you neither can give life but wish to take life does that not make you a murderer who wishes to steal, murder and destroy? See below how many deaths the godless are responsible for. shocked
Lol you got no point
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:47pm On Sep 11
mrvitalis:


Lol you got no point

Do you really believe God killed more people than anyone else in Bible days? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 2:54pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


When the Giver of life takes life it is called executing judgment not murder. cool
To me your god is a murderer, killer, he's no diffrent from Adolf Hitler, Shekau, Osama etc why should someone worship a god that kill for what exactly?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 2:56pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


God giveth and God has the right to take life as He wishes, but you neither can give life but wish to take life does that not make you a murderer who wishes to steal, murder and destroy? See below how many deaths the godless are responsible for. shocked
Add Yahweh name to that image. grin
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:09pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


God is the Landlord because He Created and Owns the land and He deserves the right to give it to whoever He wants. Don't you think? undecided
Your god is a partial god, so he enjoy killing other people, take their land for his own people to leave in, why should one worship such self-centered god?

But when Satan do same, he's the devil and wicked. grin



What does it mean in the court of law when one gets charged for murder? Do you know why they do not say one is charged for killing? Can you think of what gets killed and yet is not a crime? undecided

Killing and murder still fall under same definition.

Killing = intentional or accidental

Murder = Intentional

They use both killing and murder in court, if a man accidentally killed someone then it is killing not murder.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:33pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


God lays down the moral law and man has to obey just as man has to obey the laws of nature that God has set in place, either he likes it or not. Only God has the power to give life and He is the only One who has the power to take it. smiley
The laws of Almighty Allah is the absolute moral law we all humans must obey, Islamic manuscripts commands men to marry 4 wives, beat their disobedient wives, flog and stone fornicators, kill apostate.These are moral laws to me and to all humans, Do you accept these moral laws are applicable to you?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:40pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


To me your god is a murderer, killer, he's no diffrent from Adolf Hitler, Shekau, Osama etc why should someone worship a god that kill for what exactly?

Why did you say God is a murderer? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:42pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


Your god is a partial god, so he enjoy killing other people, take their land for his own people to leave in, why should one worship such self-centered god?

But when Satan do same, he's the devil and wicked. grin

Do you really believe God did all that you are accusing Him of doing?

tintingz:


Killing and murder still fall under same definition.

Killing = intentional or accidental

Murder = Intentional

They use both killing and murder in court, if a man accidentally killed someone then it is killing not murder.

You see the difference? What about execution?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:44pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


The laws of Almighty Allah is the absolute moral law we all humans must obey, Islamic manuscripts commands men to marry 4 wives, beat their disobedient wives, flog and stone fornicators, kill apostate.These are moral laws to me and to all humans, Do you accept these moral laws are applicable to you?

No. Do you? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:45pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


Why did you say God is a murderer? undecided
Because he intentionally killed people.

For what selfish reason does your God kill good and bad people?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:46pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


Because he intentionally killed people.

For what selfish reason does your God kill good and bad people?

What's your evidence? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:48pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


Do you really believe God did all that you are accusing Him of doing?
Yahweh command his children to go to lands and kill people and take over the land. In fact Yahweh is god of war.



You see the difference? What about execution?
Your god is a killer and a murderer.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:51pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


No. Do you? undecided
Yes, and if you don't follow almighty Allah laws, you're immoral and you're going to hell. cool

Allah(Subhanna Watahallah) laws is the absolute moral law in the world. If you don't accept then thread closed, killed and buried.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 3:55pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


What's your evidence? undecided
Innocent children in Egypt, Sodom and Gomorrah. smiley
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:27pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


Yahweh command his children to go to lands and kill people and take over the land. In fact Yahweh is god of war.

snip

tintingz:


Innocent children in Egypt, Sodom and Gomorrah. smiley

Do you believe it really happened? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 5:30pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:




Do you believe it really happened? undecided
If you're christian and follow the bible, it happened.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 5:53pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


If you're christian and follow the bible, it happened.

You have not answered the question. Do you believe it really happened? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 6:00pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


You have not answered the question. Do you believe it really happened? undecided
No, I don't undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 6:26pm On Sep 11
tintingz:


No, I don't undecided

So why are you accusing God when you don't believe it happened? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 6:41pm On Sep 11
OLAADEGBU:


So why are you accusing God when you don't believe it happened? undecided
Because Christians said it happened and the bible is the word of God.

...or the stories in the bible didn't happen? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:19pm On Sep 12
tintingz:


Because Christians said it happened and the bible is the word of God.

...or the stories in the bible didn't happen? undecided

Since you didn't believe that it really happened, why bother? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 8:43pm On Sep 12
OLAADEGBU:


Since you didn't believe that it really happened, why bother? undecided
Because of the original post. undecided

Brainiac destroyed krypton(superman planet) killing the kryptonites, we talk about how evil and supervillain brainiac is, do I believe it happened? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 8:42pm On Sep 13
tintingz:


Because of the original post. undecided

Brainiac destroyed krypton(superman planet) killing the kryptonites, we talk about how evil and supervillain brainiac is, do I believe it happened? undecided

I don't see you hating on krypon and other fairies as you are against God that you say doesn't exist. cool

Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 8:25am On Sep 14
OLAADEGBU:


I don't see you hating on krypon and other fairies as you are against God that you say doesn't exist. cool
You see your fallacy.

# No where I argued with you about existence of a god/gods, your thread is about "absolute morality" which I pointed out there is nothing like that.

# You argued your God is the moral giver, which he's not, in fact he is not different from Satan.

# Atheist don't even believe in god/s, how can they hate what that doesn't exist to them?

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Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 3:39pm On Sep 14
tintingz:


You see your fallacy.

# No where I argued with you about existence of a god/gods, your thread is about "absolute morality" which I pointed out there is nothing like that.

# You argued your God is the moral giver, which he's not, in fact he is not different from Satan.

# Atheist don't even believe in god/s, how can they hate what that doesn't exist to them?

If atheists are not hating on God why are they then bothered about what He says or does? I don't see them pulling out their hairs when it comes to leprechauns and unicorns, do they? undecided
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by tintingz(m): 6:38pm On Sep 14
OLAADEGBU:


If atheists are not hating on God why are they then bothered about what He says or does? I don't see them pulling out their hairs when it comes to leprechauns and unicorns, do they? undecided
Many atheist were religious before, they prefer arguing about the god they left.

I'm not an atheist, but skeptic, I prefer arguing about Islam traditions and Allah.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 7:04pm On Sep 14
tintingz:


Many atheist were religious before, they prefer arguing about the god they left.

I'm not an atheist, but skeptic, I prefer arguing about Islam traditions and Allah.

Since you no longer believe that God exists why take Panadol for someone else' headache?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by budaatum: 8:33pm On Sep 15
skeendyke:


So what is your solution to the atheist's dilemma? What is your interpretation of morality?
The atheist does not have the dilemma you claim. God does not make an atheist kill just as God doesn't make a deist kill, steal or not. Whether one kills or steals is a personal will thing and if it weren't God would make these things absolutely impossible to be done by anyone. Do note that people have even been killed in the name of God.

Go look up wiki for def of morality.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 9:04pm On Sep 15
budaatum:

The atheist does not have the dilemma you claim. God does not make an atheist kill just as God doesn't make a deist kill, steal or not. Whether one kills or steals is a personal will thing and if it weren't God would make these things absolutely impossible to be done by anyone. Do note that people have even been killed in the name of God.

Go look up wiki for def of morality.
yes boss. God is a character that the white men brain watched we Africans with. If religion is really good to humanity why is it that most religious countries are underdeveloped eg all Africa countries except from south Africa and Seychelles. Also places like Iran, Iraq Afghanistan,India are so underdeveloped. It's obvious that people don't think in Nigeria because religion is all about believing without evidence. It's a shame. Take note with all the demons destroying churches and pastors we have in Nigeria why are we still backward?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 9:09pm On Sep 15
OLAADEGBU:


If atheists are not hating on God why are they then bothered about what He says or does? I don't see them pulling out their hairs when it comes to leprechauns and unicorns, do they? undecided
honestly as an atheist i don't care about God but when i was still living in a religious country like Nigeria, it's impossible for me to sleep at night because a nearby church is disturbing with their pointless allnight with prayers like die by fire. So who are they killing?
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 9:17pm On Sep 15
tintingz:
The laws of Almighty Allah is the absolute moral law we all humans must obey, Islamic manuscripts commands men to marry 4 wives, beat their disobedient wives, flog and stone fornicators, kill apostate.These are moral laws to me and to all humans, Do you accept these moral laws are applicable to you?
it's obvious that religion has caused more harm than good to humanity. Imagine the Old Testament of the Bible promoting killing for adultery. What a wonderful and loving God I like Christians but not the religious type of Christians. Religion has separate people from socializing with others or even getting married. A Muslim cannot easily marry a Christian and a Jehovah witness cannot easily marry a normal Christian. So imagine the level of ignorance religion has caused. Religious people don't want to marry we the atheists and agnostics.

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