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Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 9:24pm On Sep 15, 2017
tintingz:
You see your fallacy.

# No where I argued with you about existence of a god/gods, your thread is about "absolute morality" which I pointed out there is nothing like that.

# You argued your God is the moral giver, which he's not, in fact he is not different from Satan.

# Atheist don't even believe in god/s, how can they hate what that doesn't exist to them?
Good statement. Christians normally think atheists are frustrated people that hate God. The funny truth is that we don't believe in God. So how can we hate him? Atheism is not harmful to society we make decisions according to observation of our study. An atheist make decisions that will benefit humanity but Christians makes decisions according to a book of over 2000years written by some uneducated jews.

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Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by budaatum: 9:59pm On Sep 15, 2017
segunojo866:
yes boss. God is a character that the white men brain watched we Africans with. If religion is really good to humanity why is it that most religious countries are underdeveloped eg all Africa countries except from south Africa and Seychelles. Also places like Iran, Iraq Afghanistan,India are so underdeveloped. It's obvious that people don't think in Nigeria because religion is all about believing without evidence. It's a shame. Take note with all the demons destroying churches and pastors we have in Nigeria why are we still backward?
Religion is good, even necessary, for humans! Every group of people (society) has had a religion and still have religions. Even developed nations have religions.

You have read on here somewhere that humans evolved from apes. I am not going to assert the truth of this statement, just that there were times when humans grunted. In those days, and for a long time after, they looked up at the sky, saw a big ball of light and bowed down in awe and worshipped it. At night a different ball of light waxed and waned in the sky and humans bowed down in awe and worshipped it. Some looked at the birds flying, bowed down in awe and worshipped it. Some looked at the swiftness of the cheetah or the largeness of the mammoth and worshipped it. Some worshipped the thunder, some the lightening and so on and worshipped it. They had offspring and told them to worship what they worshipped and over generations large groups of people grouped together to form societies and worshipped things in common. Over very long periods of times, the form of worship was codified and that today is what we call religion.
Religion is a consequence of ignorance and an attempt to know more. In the beginning we seek to explain, but knowing so little we accept the simplest explanation (the entire abode of humans is my village, the earth is flat, God created it in 6 days etc), as passed down by those who went before us. As humans have grown they go to the moon to check if God really lives there and adjust their religion as more understanding comes along. Eventually we kill off the old Gods and adopt more sophisticated ones and as the Gods evolve so do humans (or more appropriately, as human understanding evolves so do our Gods.
In time religion is abandoned and seeking out the truth takes over and more people will seek evidence for what they accept as true. They will abandon belief for evidence. They will abandon faith for proof. Indoctrination will give way to education in the real sense of teaching people to question and then Nigeria will depart from the dark state its in and become an enlightened nation like those so called developed nations. All so called developed nations have followed this path and so will Nigeria and all those other nation you mentioned.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 10:07pm On Sep 15, 2017
budaatum:

Religion is good, even necessary, for humans! Every group of people (society) has had a religion and still have religions. Even developed nations have religions.

You have read on here somewhere that humans evolved from apes. I am not going to assert the truth of this statement, just that there were times when humans grunted. In those days, and for a long time after, they looked up at the sky, saw a big ball of light and bowed down in awe and worshipped it. At night a different ball of light waxed and waned in the sky and humans bowed down in awe and worshipped it. Some looked at the birds flying, bowed down in awe and worshipped it. Some looked at the swiftness of the cheetah or the largeness of the mammoth and worshipped it. Some worshipped the thunder, some the lightening and so on and worshipped it. They had offspring and told them to worship what they worshipped and over generations large groups of people grouped together to form societies and worshipped things in common. Over very long periods of times, the form of worship was codified and that today is what we call religion.
Religion is a consequence of ignorance and an attempt to know more. In the beginning we seek to explain, but knowing so little we accept the simplest explanation (the entire abode of humans is my village, the earth is flat, God created it in 6 days etc), as passed down by those who went before us. As humans have grown they go to the moon to check if God really lives there and adjust their religion as more understanding comes along. Eventually we kill off the old Gods and adopt more sophisticated ones and as the Gods evolve so do humans (or more appropriately, as human understanding evolves so do our Gods.
In time religion is abandoned and seeking out the truth takes over and more people will seek evidence for what they accept as true. They will abandon belief for evidence. They will abandon faith for proof. Indoctrination will give way to education in the real sense of teaching people to question and then Nigeria will depart from the dark state its in and become an enlightened nation like those so called developed nations. All so called developed nations have followed this path and so will Nigeria and all those other nation you mentioned.
good written statement
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 10:15pm On Sep 15, 2017
segunojo866:


Good statement. Christians normally think atheists are frustrated people that hate God. The funny truth is that we don't believe in God. So how can we hate him? Atheism is not harmful to society we make decisions according to observation of our study. An atheist make decisions that will benefit humanity but Christians makes decisions according to a book of over 2000years written by some uneducated jews.

Like the following atheists made decisions that affected the society as depicted below. undecided

Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 11:06pm On Sep 15, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


Like the following atheists made decisions that affected the society as depicted below. undecided
funny Christians many of those people you mentioned where never atheist or Christians. They are group of selfminded people. Adolf Hitler was never an atheist but he was never into religion. He is just a normal pagan that don't really care about Religion or God. Atheists don't believe in God existence at all. Let talk about atheists of the 21century like Richard Dawkins not some unproven atheists of the past.
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 11:52pm On Sep 15, 2017
segunojo866:


funny Christians many of those people you mentioned where never atheist or Christians. They are group of selfminded people. Adolf Hitler was never an atheist but he was never into religion. He is just a normal pagan that don't really care about Religion or God. Atheists don't believe in God existence at all. Let talk about atheists of the 21century like Richard Dawkins not some unproven atheists of the past.

There's another crazy atheist in NK threatening to burn the whole place down. shocked
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by segunojo866: 12:47am On Sep 16, 2017
OLAADEGBU:


There's another crazy atheist in NK threatening to burn the whole place down. shocked
Lolz that north Korea president is not an atheist but a pantheists. Check your dictionary and be more educated of the meaning of pantheists
Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 12:22am On Sep 20, 2017
segunojo866:


Lolz that north Korea president is not an atheist but a pantheists. Check your dictionary and be more educated of the meaning of pantheists

What's the difference? undecided

Re: The Atheist's Dilemma by OLAADEGBU(m): 1:19pm On Oct 17, 2019
foladara777:


If God is the moral law giver... Is there a reason God give laws... Lemme do it this way, does God forbid killing because it is bad or is killing bad because God says so... Plss I need your answer

God says to murder is sin. cool

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