safarigirl:
azzin, she doesn't even understand the many paths feminism opened up for her.

She wouldn't even have a Job if not for feminism....feminism has been fighting and is still fighting to end sexual harassment of female staff in their places of work.

If not for feminism, she wouldn't even get the chance to find a man she's compatible with and marry him. Her father and brothers would just sell her to the highest bidder.

If not for feminism, aunty wouldn't even have this voice she's abusing on social media.

I recall you telling me back then on WhatsApp that you didn't believe women and men were equals, and that feminism was errant nonsense.

What happened?

bukatyne:


It seems this is 2016 year end trend.

dealslip:


I will take it from the last statement, how do you know I will automatically expect you to lead me. I was brought by a man called Tai Solarin a renowned Aethist. He didn't accept any excuses because of gender. We were taught to be self reliant and learn how to take care of yourself whether we are alone or with any man. If I was a navy officer why would I expect a novice like you to drive me. I can change my tyres, I can gauge my oil, I can do push ups why on earth do I need a man to help me. Value, Interest is what should lead a relationship and mutual respect. All this man is higher or lower is sickening. I must say the difference between climes where women are accepted and seen as equal is glaring compared to Africa were we have lazy men still expecting their wives to do everything for them and still be expecting her to also contribute her income. I say Africa is backward because women are treated so badly.

kaboninc:


No dear, Africa is backwards not because of how women are treated but how we treat ourselves. That's another discus for another day.

You've missed the point again. Personally, I don't know how to drive. You're an expert in that. I give you that.

You can change tyres, do push ups, push a truck and do all other manly things. Fine.

However, when it comes to the home, between you and your husband, my dear he's your captain. He's your leader. He's your head. And there's nothing anyone can do about that. In your home, there's a reason you see your father as the head and not your mother.

If you take a sample of naval officers what would be the percentage of women compared to men?

I said sometime here on this forum that most people (sadly including you) do not understand the true meaning of feminism. Feminism is not about challenging men. It's not about arguing with a man who should take charge. It is about creating opportunities for both genders to succeed in life. As much as you educate a boy child, so should be the same for the girl child. As much as a boy child is allowed to pursue his dreams, so should a girl child. As men are allowed to vote, women should be allowed to choose who their political leader would be.

Yet, that does not remove the natural leadership role entrusted on a man in a home.

Lastly, are you married? If yes, do you expect your husband to man up and take up the leadership role in your home? If you answer in the negative, then we might as well agree to disagree.

DarkRebel101:
Dealslip, your arguments thus far are quite incisive - deep ratiocination swizzled with an enviable mastery of rhetoric.

I'm really enjoying the way your clean that dude's clocks.

Atta girl!

dealslip:


Because I didn't correct the notion you have doesn't mean, I agree with you on the subject I am talking about. My response is to the tweet of discussion. We are not wired the same way. I come from a background where women are regarded as equal and are given opportunity to thrive and soar. I am equally married to that kind of man, who are willing to work as a team not some fool just seeking authority despite not been qualified emotionally, spiritually, financially, and psychologically. That is why I told you it is value, interest and mutual respect that guides a relationship. I am proud of the men in my live they have emancipated themselves to a very respectable level.

Lihyunpark:


you are getting it all wrong dear no man is disputing mutual respect and no one is saying what is good for the goose is not good for the gander...you have the wright to go to school and fufil your heart desires and if your husband has the wright to drive cars, work, build houses you also have the right but a man will always be the head over a woman and a husbad, and a father..you have the right to what every man has the right to but you can have EQUALITY! Take it or leave it

dealslip:

Thanks jare, this thing is becoming irritating. That is why Africa is 100 years behind their mates. The men there only bare their fangs on women.

Claiming superiority when most of them aren't even qualified to lead a pack of chickens. A lot of them are dumb mentally, financially, emotionally and even spiritually. Most African men are barely out of puberty.

Wicked!

Even a broke-äss insignificant cockroach who's barely out of leading-strings would expect to be worshipped by a woman who has plowed through hell and high water to achieve success, all because society's planted it in his head that the mere fact that he has a phallûs makes him supreme.

DarkRebel101:



I recall you telling me back then on WhatsApp that you didn't believe women and men were equals, and that feminism was errant nonsense.

What happened?

Lihyunpark:
safarigirl..what kind of feminist are you? And do you want to be looked at equally as your husband?

safarigirl:
the type that frowns at the objectification and sexualizing of women.

I want to be looked at as a person, not just some form of entertainment/reproduction machine. I don't know if that indicates 'equality' as my husband, but I would very much like a man who pushes me to achieve my goals and someone I can always look up to as a motivator, not someone I'll be dragging spotlight with.

We can both shine differently

I guess some things need to be broken down

safarigirl:
I don't believe in equality of genders.

Where in my write-up did I say anything about gender equality? Or does ending sexual harassment equate to gender equality?

she wouldn't even have a Job if not for feminism....feminism has been fighting and is still fighting to end sexual harassment of female staff in their places of work.

If not for feminism, she wouldn't even get the chance to find a man she's compatible with and marry him. Her father and brothers would just sell her to the highest bidder.

If not for feminism, aunty wouldn't even have this voice she's abusing on social media.

Radical feminism is jargons, but feminism has done a lot for humanity. Do I have to spell out my words every time?

You do know there are types of feminism, right?

DarkRebel101:

[b]
I have no qualms with you being stalwart in your belief that the sheer fact of you owning a vagïna curses you to be several strata below the male species. Excuse my French.

You are free to grovel at the feet of a man all you want, but you have no right to flip-flop when it's convenient for you.

The core purpose of the feminist movement is to make the equality of the sexes a breathing reality.

You say you don't believe the sexes are equal, yet you extol feminism and highlight the virtues of the movement. Sounds like you're contradicting yourself to me.



[b]If men are superior to women, then they – men – should be able to harass them sexually without getting questioned.

So, yes, bringing an end to sexual harassment is a step toward gender equality.

Here are the other achievements of feminism you highlighted, and which indicate a nudge in the direction of gender equality:





[color=#770077][b]Bla Bla Bla, no one's talking about radical feminism here.

Educate yourself, dear. Your knowledge of the subject appears to be very limited - that explains the contradictions.

Lihyunpark:


Nobody is stoping you from becoming the president of the planet earth...infact i will be happy for you and would love to be your husband then cus that doesnt makes you equal to a man....you just dont want to accept the word "we are not EQUAL "

DarkRebel101:


Well, it's not exclusive to Africa alone. It's only more pronounced here than in say Europe and America.




Wicked!

Even a broke-äss insignificant cockroach who's barely out of leading-strings would expect to be worshipped by a woman who has plowed through hell and high water to achieve success, all because society's planted it in his head that the mere fact that he has a phallûs makes him supreme.

safarigirl:
where did I say we were equal? Or are you having a brain fart like the other guy on this thread attacking me from a different angle?

It's one day to the end of the year bros, the fact you're looking for an unnecessary argument where there is none on the 30th of December says a lot of you and Darkenedrebel.
. Have a good nighy

safarigirl:
lol..wash and iron for him. give him salt even f it's inches away...

Kuku tell me I'm marrying a toddler let me prepare my mind. Is that one still a man when he can't even perform basic things by himself?

please if I must do all these, I hope I'm also not expected to get a job and pay any bills. Lemme just sit home and get pregnant, since everyone should do what is conventionally accepted

Some people don't even understand how feminism works.

If a woman must get a job and pay bills, which are things otherwise done by men, then a mam should also be expected to pull his weight around the house as well. Feminists only seek assistance in the home because they have assisted men financially. There are no jobless feminists sitting around and waiting to feed off any man.

Nigerians will never calm down long enough to understand the concept of feminism.


I dont wanna see myself concerning your accusation about Nigerians never calm.... Let me ask. Are you a feminist?

lovelygurl:


That's what you want 'enjoyment', right. For someone to be kissing your assistance. I keep repeating it men against feminism are either the insecured men or lazy men.
Women working as a loooot to with being equal because that's the number 1 argument we get to hear "how can I be working and fo this and that blablablabla"


You admitted nowadays things have changed. You are right not only have the "additions" increased. Things are really changing!

And pls stop comparing yourself to animals because we all know that the brains of humans and animals are different. It's almost like you are wishing to be 1. We are not on the same level.

dealslip:

Broke ass insignificant cockroach . This is so true. The society has destroyed their mind by making them think they are entitled to authority.

Honestly I have met men whom I adore so much. These sweetmen earn my respect anytime without asking for it because they recognise fast that women are their equal and fellow human being.

In fact, when it's time that I get spliced, I'd exercise due dilligence by inquiring from the woman about her stance on gender equality. If she supports it, then I'd walk her to the aisle; but if her answer is in the negative, she would be discarded faster than used condoms.

I'm not the least surprised you turned out this way. No one taken under the wings of the legendary Tai Solarin turns out to be a second-string material.

If not that I love my girlfriend, if not that she is such a delight and an apex predator on the bed sheets, and if not that you are already married, perhaps I'd have sallied forth to bering those digits of yours.

dealslip:


Because I didn't correct the notion you have doesn't mean, I agree with you on the subject I am talking about. My response is to the tweet of discussion. We are not wired the same way. I come from a background where women are regarded as equal and are given opportunity to thrive and soar. I am equally married to that kind of man, who are willing to work as a team not some fool just seeking authority despite not been qualified emotionally, spiritually, financially, and psychologically. That is why I told you it is value, interest and mutual respect that guides a relationship. I am proud of the men in my live they have emancipated themselves to a very respectable level.

DarkRebel101:


I have no qualms with you being stalwart in your belief that the sheer fact of you owning a vagïna places you several strata below the male species. Excuse my French.

You are free to grovel at the feet of a man all you want, but you have no right to flip-flop when it's convenient for you.

The core purpose of the feminist movement is to make the equality of the sexes a breathing reality.

You say you don't believe the sexes are equal, yet you extol feminism and highlight the virtues of the movement. Sounds like you're contradicting yourself to me.



If men are superior to women, then they – men – should be able to harass them sexually without getting questioned.

So, yes, bringing an end to sexual harassment is a step toward gender equality.

Here are the other achievements of feminism you highlighted, and which indicate a nudge in the direction of gender equality:





Bla Bla Bla, no one's talking about radical feminism here.

Educate yourself, dear. Your knowledge of the subject appears to be very limited - that explains the contradictions.

dabraska:
Lool. I laugh my head off when I hear ladies talk about how lazy and less intelligent men are.

If you have a boss at the workplace. Even though you are smarter than him, does that make you share same responsibilities with him? Complaining to yourself and a few loved ones will earn you the comfort that you so deserve but he's your boss. You could be higher than him in all levels but hey! He's your boss.

The true feminists are actually submissive to their husbands. They just want equal opportunities. No carry fire for your head.

dealslip:


Thanks jare, this thing is becoming irritating. That is why Africa is 100 years behind their mates. The men there only bare their fangs on women. Claiming superiority when most of them aren't even qualified to lead a pack of chickens. A lot of them are dumb mentally, financially, emotionally and even spiritually. Most African men are barely out of puberty.

dealslip:


Honestly, All of this is just an opinion you cherish, I[b] don't believe in it[/b] and I don't indulge in it, a man is not head over a woman period. You guys are just in love with an age long culture which is not different from thecibe Mary Slessor camecto abolish. I wonder where you got this authority from. Please don't say the bible because the bible doesn't support this.

dealslip:


Broke ass insignificant cockroach ;DD. This is so true. The society has destroyed their mind by making them think they are entitled to authority. Honestly I have met men whom I adore so much. These sweetmen earn my respect anytime without asking for it because they recognise fast that women are their equal and fellow human being.